OK, probably gonna have the oppurtunity to get a 7" soon.
Was looking at the WIFI version. I did read here it does have GPS module which is good.
Can I put 3.0 on this? (Sorry been really busy and since I hadn't bought one yet, I hadn't kept up on everything going on with Android).
I know that there are some cool GSM firmwares I had been looking at, why I was gonna pick up an AT&T model. Can I use these on the WIFI only?
Anything else I should know?
The 8.9 in version is coming out early summer (any day.) You can't wait? It has the Tegra 2.
dardack said:
OK, probably gonna have the oppurtunity to get a 7" soon.
Was looking at the WIFI version. I did read here it does have GPS module which is good.
Can I put 3.0 on this? (Sorry been really busy and since I hadn't bought one yet, I hadn't kept up on everything going on with Android).
I know that there are some cool GSM firmwares I had been looking at, why I was gonna pick up an AT&T model. Can I use these on the WIFI only?
Anything else I should know?
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You can't put honeycomb on this as yet, but have it under very good authority from excellent dev that this will be starting soon, keep an eye in the Android Dev section and it will be released there, the tag will more than likely be wifi only or GT-p10101 honeycomb Alpha which hopefully be shortly >:¬}
Hi,
I got the P1010 "Wifi-only", and although it is a quite good tablet, I can't advise you to buy it. If you like this model, you should purchase the original 3G version. Why ? Because Samsung has lowered the technical specs on the wifi version (less powerful CPU and GPU).
The user interface feels a bit more sluggish, and some games compatible with the former 3G tablet simply won't work in the WiFi edition. In addition, the custom roms designed for 3G version are not compatible either. However you can still root your device (i've done it).
worker1 said:
The 8.9 in version is coming out early summer (any day.) You can't wait? It has the Tegra 2.
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8.9 Is still a bit big for me tbh. I really like the size of the 7".
Why ? Because Samsung has lowered the technical specs on the wifi version (less powerful CPU and GPU).
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Um looking over the specs they seem exactly the same CPU, the A8 1ghz Cortez Hummingbird. Or am I missing something?
alexgogan said:
You can't put honeycomb on this as yet, but have it under very good authority from excellent dev that this will be starting soon, keep an eye in the Android Dev section and it will be released there, the tag will more than likely be wifi only or GT-p10101 honeycomb Alpha which hopefully be shortly >:¬}
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Cool. Are there any custom firmwares for the WIFI only yet? (I can start browsing tomorrow). And does the GPS fix for the other 3g tabs work for the WIFI only version?
The graphics card are not as god but i don't notice much of a difference to be honest i still prefer the wifi only and did not see the extra money worth it when i can teather rhetorically device.
And still no Rom yet. Regarding the gps fix not too sure as have not browsed the gsm threads too much.
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The Wifi model uses an OMAP3 SoC vs the original 3G that uses the Hummingbird. The difference between the 2 gpus (PowerVR SGX 530 vs 540) is very apparent if you plan to use the tab for media or games. As posted earlier, there is a slight sluggishness to the base UI animation and transitions, many newer/more graphically intensive games will be very laggy or not run at all, and media will need to be encoded to be a bit lower quality for it to run smoothly. If you don't need the tab to be a media/game powerhouse then the wifi version should be good enough.
don't use it for games so did not notice anything.. downloaded a few games on the device but did not play them (they were free with the sammy). regarding the movies, encoded all on 720 automatically for the size and never had an issue in playing them
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don't use it for games so did not notice anything.. downloaded a few games on the device but did not play them (they were free with the sammy). regarding the movies, encoded all on 720 automatically for the size and never had an issue in playing them
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720p?
And maybe if it was my money I'd take the 3g, but it's a gift. So it was that or something else I had no interest in.
Hopefully a rom can help with some of that sluggishness.
Didn't know they used a lesser GPU in the wifi only, that blows.
Also is there an official ROM for the 2.2.1 or .2/.3? Anything? Or do I just gotta wait and hope there are dev's working on the wifi model?
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Also is there an official ROM for the 2.2.1 or .2/.3? Anything? Or do I just gotta wait and hope there are dev's working on the wifi model?
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We have to wait unfortuanetly but i love the device its size and can teather to my phone so its perfect for me.
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I would recommend u to buy the original tab.
The hardware is better and it has 3g.
Also its not a lot more expenisve than the wifi only model.
I got mine for 300€ from eBay
Also its the only tablet with phone functionality.
I don't know what the point of the wifi only tab is. if it had better hardware or at least the same as the original version just without 3g it would be okay for a significantly lower price..
But it doesn't.
"I crap by myself. I dont need iCrap....yet!"
transmitted from a Galaxy beyond your imagination.
{Diemex} said:
I would recommend u to buy the original tab.
The hardware is better and it has 3g.
Also its not a lot more expenisve than the wifi only model.
I got mine for 300€ from eBay
Also its the only tablet with phone functionality.
I don't know what the point of the wifi only tab is. if it had better hardware or at least the same as the original version just without 3g it would be okay for a significantly lower price..
But it doesn't.
"I crap by myself. I dont need iCrap....yet!"
transmitted from a Galaxy beyond your imagination.
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Again a gift. Not my money. And here in the states anyways, new 3g phone is like 500-600, and not buying a data plan, so 337 is decent. I guess i could ask them to go to ebay, but eh it's their money and want to buy new. I mean really i'm not gonna kick a gift horse in the mouth.
I do now understand the hardware limitations, no HDMI, but it's free so yea.
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We have to wait unfortuanetly but i love the device its size and can teather to my phone so its perfect for me.
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Well I'll get it and see how I like it.
BTW is there a 30 pin to component out? Just for the Car video system, don't have HDMI anyways, so HDMI wouldn't do me any good anyways on the 3g.
There is that cable. It may be listed in the accessories section. I connect my tab to a projector frequently. You can find them on ebay for less than $25. Make sure its compatable with the wifi model number.
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There is that cable. It may be listed in the accessories section. I connect my tab to a projector frequently. You can find them on ebay for less than $25. Make sure its compatable with the wifi model number.
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I haven't found one for the WIFI model. Damn samsung.
Well, the pins ++might++ be the same. The cheapest place for tab called is www.tv-mall.com, that cable is $3 there, and may be worth the gamble. Why don't you pm me, I have a suggestion.
rangercaptain said:
Well, the pins ++might++ be the same. The cheapest place for tab called is www.tv-mall.com, that cable is $3 there, and may be worth the gamble. Why don't you pm me, I have a suggestion.
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Yeah I can't find the cable on that site.
dardack said:
Again a gift. Not my money. And here in the states anyways, new 3g phone is like 500-600, and not buying a data plan, so 337 is decent. I guess i could ask them to go to ebay, but eh it's their money and want to buy new. I mean really i'm not gonna kick a gift horse in the mouth.
I do now understand the hardware limitations, no HDMI, but it's free so yea.
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What u can try is what my friend did. He bought a 3G version from ATT for $250. Then he called them after he received it and got transferred to customer relations. He told them the tablet plan is no commitment and wanted to cancel because wifi is enough right now and he's no longer traveling for work. They canceled his plan and now he has a brand new $250 3G version. He only did this maybe 2-3 weeks ago.
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The Flyer looks to be a pretty sweet machine. It will be running Honeycomb as well. HTC seems to think that 7" is best for portability as well. I think the HTC may be a good contender for the GT...
Thoughts?
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-flyer-tablet-official-15132992/
alternatives to SGT are loosely being discussed at this thread too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953956
Some things that drove me to SGT (i got my about 6 weeks ago):
-phone!
-here and now
No mention of phone support on the flyer yet and flyer is q2 2011. By that time, Sammy (or someone else), may have new 7" SGT with dual or maybe quad cores and all sorts of stuff. Or, if/when flyer is available, the next gen TABs will be in the rumor mill.
Tech is a buy now thing. Anything you buy is already out of date or behind the bleeding edge.
I also read that the HTC device will not be Honeycomb but rather version 2.4
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-20031879-78.html
Rogue9 said:
I also read that the HTC device will not be Honeycomb but rather version 2.4
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-20031879-78.html
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Thats correct, no honeycomb, no phone, no 3g, no camera flash, it looks a tad bigger than the tab, the stylus is crap, but it has got 1gb of ram, other than that not so great
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Thats correct, no honeycomb, no phone, no 3g, no camera flash, it looks a tad bigger than the tab, the stylus is crap, but it has got 1gb of ram, other than that not so great
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I'm not trying to be rude here... but how do you know the "stylus is crap" on a device that isn't even released yet? I mean, if you know... how have some sort of legitimate/logical insight to this, I want to hear it. Again, not trying to be rude... just wondering how we know it's "crap", when it's not even available.
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I'm not trying to be rude here... but how do you know the "stylus is crap" on a device that isn't even released yet? I mean, if you know... how have some sort of legitimate/logical insight to this, I want to hear it. Again, not trying to be rude... just wondering how we know it's "crap", when it's not even available.
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Theres a video of it being used, its laggy like all the other stylus' for capacitive screens
edit: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/02/15/hands-off-video-demo-the-htc-flyer-android-tablet/ here you go, wait for the part where he starts drawing
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Theres a video of it being used, its laggy like all the other stylus' for capacitive screens
edit: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/02/15/hands-off-video-demo-the-htc-flyer-android-tablet/ here you go, wait for the part where he starts drawing
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To be honest, I thought it was pretty good for a capacitive stylus!
Regards,
Dave
No 3g? Why would it have all the hspda/wcdma specs? http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2011/02/htc-flyer-roundup/ (for europe/asia so maybe no north america). no 4g, yes appears that way. Still no mention of phone (albeit it appears to have gsm/edge radio)
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No 3g? Why would it have all the hspda/wcdma specs? http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2011/02/htc-flyer-roundup/ (for europe/asia so maybe no north america). no 4g, yes appears that way. Still no mention of phone (albeit it appears to have gsm/edge radio)
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It is going to support 3G - obviously!
Judging by the specs, I would expect it to support T-Mobile US 3G as it mentions AWS in the available bands.
Regards,
Dave
if it does go to tmobile wonder if they will block imei again
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Thats correct, no honeycomb, no phone, no 3g, no camera flash, it looks a tad bigger than the tab, the stylus is crap, but it has got 1gb of ram, other than that not so great
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And a 1.5GHz processor, which I would think, could probably be OC'd to about 2GHz. That would be pretty impressive by any tablet standards.
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And a 1.5GHz processor, which I would think, could probably be OC'd to about 2GHz. That would be pretty impressive by any tablet standards.
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the gpu of the galaxy tab is much more powerful , the flyer uses same processor in the desire hd but overclocked version(8255 with adreno 205) , so to reach 2.0 ghz it will be extreme overclock , i prfere galaxy tab over flyer
Add terrible battery life according to the specs. Only four hours when watching an hd video.
Also an ounce heavier than the tab. Overall dimensions are bigger too.
Was originally holding off for the flyer but after weighing the pros and cons, the choice was pretty clear.
I got a deal for the galaxy tab (bell) (3G/Wifi) - used for 200$ including the box and every thing. I've never used android before but I've been looking to buy an android phone not the tablet. I was thinking of getting Nexus s or galaxy 2 as my first android phone but when i got this deal i was confused. I don't know if the apps on tablet are different than that on phones. Also, if i can connect this with Hdmi without using the media dock or DLNA. is it the same experience as the phone, i mean same apps and so on. And is there any honeycomb for this tablet?
Tab is my first android device, I love it. Same experience as a phone if not better. No HDMI without dock , $200 is a Bargin, if you don't buy it I will lol
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
natious said:
Tab is my first android device, I love it. Same experience as a phone if not better. No HDMI without dock , $200 is a Bargin, if you don't buy it I will lol
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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thanks for replaying that fast
no body could hack the hdmi thing!
how about the apps and games? I heard it's not like the phone's
and one more thing since i saw your post about the Honeycomb theme, is there any lag issues with these themes? I'm afraid of the 512 RAM and is there any problem regarding the ram?
$200 is a STEAL!!!! Get it no matter the Carrier.
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thanks for replaying that fast
no body could hack the hdmi thing!
how about the apps and games? I heard it's not like the phone's
and one more thing since i saw your post about the Honeycomb theme, is there any lag issues with these themes? I'm afraid of the 512 RAM and is there any problem regarding the ram?
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To b honest the tab is pretty crap out the box, once you flash a new ron you'll be having fun, the themes don't affect the tab like it would a windows system, as the themes replace the graphics rather than run on top.
Ram isn't really an issue I usually have 200-260mb free. The prettiest of games only use around 100-150mb
And so far every app I have tried from the market has worked perfectly
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To b honest the tab is pretty crap out the box, once you flash a new ron you'll be having fun, the themes don't affect the tab like it would a windows system, as the themes replace the graphics rather than run on top.
Ram isn't really an issue I usually have 200-260mb free. The prettiest of games only use around 100-150mb
And so far every app I have tried from the market has worked perfectly
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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thanks for replaying but digi is it even different than rogers?
thanks natious i think i'm going for that deal since most apps worked
natious said:
To b honest the tab is pretty crap out the box, once you flash a new ron you'll be having fun, the themes don't affect the tab like it would a windows system, as the themes replace the graphics rather than run on top.
Ram isn't really an issue I usually have 200-260mb free. The prettiest of games only use around 100-150mb
And so far every app I have tried from the market has worked perfectly
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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Crap out of the box? That must depend on what you're using the tab for, or the carrier - CDMA vs GSM - they're different hardware and not just the radio.
I have a GSM tab, and I use mine to surf, stream video and music from me media center, read ebooks, and video chat with my daughter. I don't play any games -- maybe that's why yours needed a rom. Mine didn't. I haven't had a single issue with mine in the 2 weeks I've had it. No reboots, no issues whatsoever. Rooted, ran OCLF, installed about 100 apps. No problems. No reboots. No FC's.
i forgot to mention something
the tab comes with an extra 2 years warranty, if i do roms and kernels or any kind of hacking what will happen to the warranty?
As soon as you root....there GOES your warrenty.
However if you unroot....what they do not know will not hurt them.
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i forgot to mention something
the tab comes with an extra 2 years warranty, if i do roms and kernels or any kind of hacking what will happen to the warranty?
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I'd keep in mind that if the person selling it for $200 got it from a CDMA carrier (Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular, etc) and isn't going to honor the contract, you'll essentially have a wifi only tablet, as the ESN will be blacklisted and you'll never be able to activate on any carrier. No warranty either.
It's still a steal at $200 even if it's wifi only.
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Crap out of the box? That must depend on what you're using the tab for, or the carrier - CDMA vs GSM - they're different hardware and not just the radio.
I have a GSM tab, and I use mine to surf, stream video and music from me media center, read ebooks, and video chat with my daughter. I don't play any games -- maybe that's why yours needed a rom. Mine didn't. I haven't had a single issue with mine in the 2 weeks I've had it. No reboots, no issues whatsoever. Rooted, ran OCLF, installed about 100 apps. No problems. No reboots. No FC's.
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I have a euro GSM tab. So it's kitted with everything working, I'd say the tab would be fine for a average user but I like tinkering with things, after the custom rom I'd say the tab 3x times faster than a standard one
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
200 is worth it for sure
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Crap out of the box? That must depend on what you're using the tab for, or the carrier - CDMA vs GSM - they're different hardware and not just the radio.
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I wouldn't say crap out of the box myself, but when I got mine the stock browser was shockingly laggy. This was fixed in later Samsung development builds.
Regards,
Dave
200 is deals, i wouldve snatched that up asap
Thanks for all of those replays guys, really appreciate the help.
got it today, and kinda laggy when using firefox and another app. BUT DEFIANTLY HAPPY WITH IT.
I'll try to back up first then ROMs.
does anybody knows bell's galaxy tab would be fine with ROMs because i'm assuming there's no problems like the CDMA versions
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does anybody knows bell's galaxy tab would be fine with ROMs because i'm assuming there's no problems like the CDMA versions
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You should be pretty much fine with any GSM ROM.
Regards,
Dave
Will any carrier work?
hi,
will a tab from any carrier work in asian countries? as a wifi device at least. and can all carrier versions be unlocked or rooted. may be able to get me one for under $200 but would want to use it in India..Wifi only will do.. help will be appreciated
DudeInMyrtleBeach said:
Crap out of the box? That must depend on what you're using the tab for, or the carrier - CDMA vs GSM - they're different hardware and not just the radio.
I have a GSM tab, and I use mine to surf, stream video and music from me media center, read ebooks, and video chat with my daughter. I don't play any games -- maybe that's why yours needed a rom. Mine didn't. I haven't had a single issue with mine in the 2 weeks I've had it. No reboots, no issues whatsoever. Rooted, ran OCLF, installed about 100 apps. No problems. No reboots. No FC's.
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It is crap out of the box however you won't know that until you try out a custom rom like overcome and see the performance improvements compared to stock. Overcome rom is a significant improvement in performance and stability. Give it a shot and you'll see. But if you're afraid about the warranty then stick to stock.
ok so i am going to check out a DS7 for sale tomorrow. its a t-mob BNIB and was just wondering if i should get the 4G or wifi only? i am using it for my car, as a music/internet/gps devise. i have just found out it is recalled from t-mob and not being sold in stores any longer. i have also heard that there are some problems connecting via wifi, i have an iphone and connect my ipad with now issues. i need some advise on whether or not to buy this DS7. thanks for your advise in advance
For your purposes, I'd get the wifi. Why spend extra on the T-mobile 4g version? + plan?
Also, with the release of new tablets coming, you can
1. get something better
2. get the DS7 for about $200 by Christmas (just an educated guess) when its price falls + coupon. I'm sure Staples will not move these without a discount. People don't like the resolution and viewing angle of the DS7 for $300.
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For your purposes, I'd get the wifi. Why spend extra on the T-mobile 4g version? + plan?
Also, with the release of new tablets coming, you can
1. get something better
2. get the DS7 for about $200 by Christmas (just an educated guess) when its price falls + coupon. I'm sure Staples will not move these without a discount. People don't like the resolution and viewing angle of the DS7 for $300.
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Well thing is, I'm not going to be using it like other people. I am using it only as a controller for my car. I can get this 4G t-mob for less than a wifi only version. My question is, will it affect my usage ability by getting a t-mob vs wifi only? Based on the fact I am only using it via wifi.
I have the wifi only and know that it would work perfect for what you are planning to do. The only thing you have to do is root it and remove the phone apk and telephony apk so that it will not use up your battery.
I don't have the 4g so I cannot give you a comparison.
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I have the wifi only and know that it would work perfect for what you are planning to do. The only thing you have to do is root it and remove the phone apk and telephony apk so that it will not use up your battery.
I don't have the 4g so I cannot give you a comparison.
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Hmm well if I can get this 4g one cheaper and I can't get it to work I can always sell it and buy a wifi only version I suppose. I'll go take a look at it and see how I feel. I was thinking if I do get the -mob version I could always just hook it up and use it as intended. But I really would like to learn about rooting and all that stuff. I've been an iPhone guy for so long, this is all so new to me. Lol
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Hmm well if I can get this 4g one cheaper and I can't get it to work I can always sell it and buy a wifi only version I suppose. I'll go take a look at it and see how I feel. I was thinking if I do get the -mob version I could always just hook it up and use it as intended. But I really would like to learn about rooting and all that stuff. I've been an iPhone guy for so long, this is all so new to me. Lol
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If you get the 4G model and remove phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk, it'll work just like a WiFi with those removed. If it's cheaper, go for the T-Mobile one. Actually, just get whichever model is cheaper. Since you'll turn the cell radio off in any case, everything else is identical.
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If you get the 4G model and remove phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk, it'll work just like a WiFi with those removed. If it's cheaper, go for the T-Mobile one. Actually, just get whichever model is cheaper. Since you'll turn the cell radio off in any case, everything else is identical.
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Yeah since I missed the staples sale, I can get the t-mob version for less than a standard wifi now. I'm going to go by a staples and see if I can get the deal. If not I'll buy the t-mob one.
day late dollar short
waxworkz said:
Yeah since I missed the staples sale, I can get the t-mob version for less than a standard wifi now. I'm going to go by a staples and see if I can get the deal. If not I'll buy the t-mob one.
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Staples discount $100 ended 7/31/2011
similar thread 2 keep or return
Hi I have just got hold a a DS7 4g.
Question. I am used to routing, have a SGS1 running Darky's Rom and it fly's. This unit out of the box doesnt and the screens not great.
Q Does DJ steves rom make such a difference, and is it stable?
I'm also considering the Sam Galaxy Tab.
Thoughts anyone.
Thanks
Dave
dajola2007 said:
Hi I have just got hold a a DS7 4g.
Question. I am used to routing, have a SGS1 running Darky's Rom and it fly's. This unit out of the box doesnt and the screens not great.
Q Does DJ steves rom make such a difference, and is it stable?
I'm also considering the Sam Galaxy Tab.
Thoughts anyone.
Thanks
Dave
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Galaxy Tab 7 has a better screen and battery life, and is inferior in every other way (hardware wise). Software wise, the Sammy comes with more bloat (due to TouchWiz), but has far more root/ROM options.
Install a new launcher (I prefer Zeam) to really see how the S7 performs. It's pretty darned quick; it handily outpaces the Galaxy Tab in every way imaginable. I know; I have both. If you can live with the battery life and screen on the Streak 7, I can't imagine why the slightly better modding community on the Galaxy Tab would sway you. After all, the Streak 7 ships with Vanilla Android (just a custom homescreen, Stage UI, on top; not a whole skin like on the GTab).
If you're talking about the Galaxy Tab 10.1, the Streak 7's only advantages are the screen size and the price (and 4G, but the Verizon GTab 10.1 will have LTE). The GTab 10.1 is better in every other way.
Hi, thanks for the reply. I must say I like the form factor and the build quality is superb, the standard UI isn'ttoo bad. I guess I'm just spoilt with sammy's amoled screen on my SGS1. Would you say Zeam works better than launcher pro on this device, also have you routed your DS7.
dajola2007 said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I must say I like the form factor and the build quality is superb, the standard UI isn'ttoo bad. I guess I'm just spoilt with sammy's amoled screen on my SGS1. Would you say Zeam works better than launcher pro on this device, also have you routed your DS7.
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I haven't used LP in a while, so I can't say for sure. If LP lets you set the rows/columns, that's a plus; not sure about speed, though (Zeam is super quick, free, and I've never had a redraw). My S7 is rooted because I couldn't hold out more than a week before rooting my device Just use Gingerbreak if you want to root; easy-peasy.
Ok so I bought the DS7 but it won't see my iPhone that is jail broken and running mywi to use as hot spot. Any words of wisdom? Should I just root it and be done with it? I'd like to install a mobile front end and use it as my all around car system. Thanks guys
The topic says it all, with the current state of the tablet world, and understanding that when the Transformer Prime and its generation of tablets comes out the Gtab7 will be 2 generations behind, should i buy one ?
I can get one 2nd hand, for 150€ wifi+3g.
Is it worth it ?
if you can find one for a decent price, i'd say go for it... it might be worth checking the model of the one you want to buy to make sure developers support it if thats what you are after.
i just recently bought myself a galaxy tab 7 and im sure i'll get tons of use out of it. its such a nice size and portable, and the expericne is comparable to my phone, so nothing its too foreign like it is going from froyo to honeycomb or something.
i figure i'll keep this one until they come out with some decent 7 inch icecream sandwich tablets and i'll sell it and buy one of those. but i dont see one coming out that will thrill me much until at least mid next year.
i bought mine for about that same price (but in USD), honestly for me the instant i saw the deal it was far too good for me to resist.
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if you can find one for a decent price, i'd say go for it... it might be worth checking the model of the one you want to buy to make sure developers support it if thats what you are after.
i just recently bought myself a galaxy tab 7 and im sure i'll get tons of use out of it. its such a nice size and portable, and the expericne is comparable to my phone, so nothing its too foreign like it is going from froyo to honeycomb or something.
i figure i'll keep this one until they come out with some decent 7 inch icecream sandwich tablets and i'll sell it and buy one of those. but i dont see one coming out that will thrill me much until at least mid next year.
i bought mine for about that same price (but in USD), honestly for me the instant i saw the deal it was far too good for me to resist.
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I already own a HD2 (work phone) and a DHD (private phone), so the Tab will be a complement to this ecosystem. I like it not being too big, and yet not too small.
We can find tons of 7inch tablets, bat all of them have the same resolution has my phones, and i wish to AVOID pixels
Performance wise, is it still on par? Can i throw it the same things i can on my DHD ?
How do you expect the ICS support to be? We're talking about samsung turf, and they're currently the "good guys" on google eyes, so the systems will always be similar. Yet i remain renitent... I hope others will comment this thread
well if you are looking at the one of the first generations of galaxy tabs (the ones that come with android 2.2), then i think samsung will not officially be releasing ICS on it. however there are some people who are working on porting ICS to the tab. You can find more on that in the development section.
I have a samsung galaxy s, SCH-I500, same as the fascinate on verizons network i think...
the phone and the tab have nearly identical specs, but the tab does feel much smoother. probably due to the increased ram it has.
one thing you can always consider though. 200$ is a good deal, and for what you can buy it for, if it turns out you cant achieve the experience you want on it... how hard will it be to just turn over to someone for the cost you paid? or even a bit more?
i cant really speak for the hd2 or desire hd phones, as i've not played with either. but i suspect the fact that you'll be using the tablet for different purposes would still make it a good buy. so far i think all the apps i have on my phone have ported over to my tab with no issues, seeing as how its pretty much the same OS version.
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well if you are looking at the one of the first generations of galaxy tabs (the ones that come with android 2.2), then i think samsung will not officially be releasing ICS on it. however there are some people who are working on porting ICS to the tab. You can find more on that in the development section.
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Yes, i'm talking about the original Galaxy Tab. Not the new ones with Honeycomb
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I have a samsung galaxy s, SCH-I500, same as the fascinate on verizons network i think...
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I'm in Europe, so no name mumbo jumbo for me. We have the Galaxy S, and the Galaxy S2. No Fascinates or whatever Verizon/Sprint/ATT/Tmouse chooses
(Thank god for that...)
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the phone and the tab have nearly identical specs, but the tab does feel much smoother. probably due to the increased ram it has.
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I've come to accept that RAM is a major player on this OS. It's memory freak, but above a certain point, it's pointless of course (just like a PC).
As it stands, on 2.3.x, anything above 1gb is too much
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one thing you can always consider though. 200$ is a good deal, and for what you can buy it for, if it turns out you cant achieve the experience you want on it... how hard will it be to just turn over to someone for the cost you paid? or even a bit more?
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200€ is a little too much above my budget. 150€ is the most i'll give, expecially for something that's probably 1 year old (i don't mean the release data, i mean the warranty)
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i cant really speak for the hd2 or desire hd phones, as i've not played with either. but i suspect the fact that you'll be using the tablet for different purposes would still make it a good buy. so far i think all the apps i have on my phone have ported over to my tab with no issues, seeing as how its pretty much the same OS version.
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I WOULD be using the tablet. It got sold (bummer) minutes after the OP.
Pitty.... but i'll keep looking...
ah... sorry about the dollar amount... i was doing a rough conversion. 150 euros is about 200 us dollars.
that's something that was kind of getting me discouraged about my search for a 7inch. the lowest price i found before the one i bought was i think 330 USD, which is about 100 more euros than your budget.
thats why the minute i saw the deal, i jumped on it right away.
one thing that seems to be unanimous though, is try and stay away from the wifi only versions of the tab, as they lack in updates (even from samsung), and have little to no 3rd party development.
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ah... sorry about the dollar amount... i was doing a rough conversion. 150 euros is about 200 us dollars.
that's something that was kind of getting me discouraged about my search for a 7inch. the lowest price i found before the one i bought was i think 330 USD, which is about 100 more euros than your budget.
thats why the minute i saw the deal, i jumped on it right away.
one thing that seems to be unanimous though, is try and stay away from the wifi only versions of the tab, as they lack in updates (even from samsung), and have little to no 3rd party development.
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Message received and understood! No wifi.
Don't apolagize, i'm the one that should be.
Still, 150€/$200 is a very nice deal, i hope i can find one again.
BTW, how hard is it to sim unlock this things ?
i couldnt tell you how easy it is to sim unlock the tab... mine is a verizon wireless version, and they dont take sim cards... and i think its locked into their network.
GSM tabs are easy to unlock. Search the forums.
I've actually. Bought 3 of the original 7" tabs recently, all at or below $200 CDN. All were mint condition.
Why 3? Well. Friends keep wanting in on the great deal
The Galaxy tab, while older is still very capable. Compare it to the kindle fire or nook color at around the same price point.
Slap CM 7.1 or CM 9 and you're in a good spot.
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Looking at some of the issues with the HD video playback on the Tab 8.9 WiFi, should I even bother with it now or go with some else? I love the size of 8.9, but don't want to blow a chunk of money on something that is not going to perform.
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Looking at some of the issues with the HD video playback on the Tab 8.9 WiFi, should I even bother with it now or go with some else? I love the size of 8.9, but don't want to blow a chunk of money on something that is not going to perform.
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Get the 8.9 LTE, it does not suffer from the crappy tegra 2 video preformance that the wifi model does.
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Get the 8.9 LTE, it does not suffer from the crappy tegra 2 video preformance that the wifi model does.
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So all tegra 2 tablets have the same issue? Wouldn't that be pretty much all of them at the moment right? I don't see myself spending even more money for something that should work or am I not seeing it right?
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So all tegra 2 tablets have the same issue? Wouldn't that be pretty much all of them at the moment right? I don't see myself spending even more money for something that should work or am I not seeing it right?
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Basically yes, it is common knowledge that the Tegra 2 chipset does not preform very well with high bitrate video of various types.
The reason being, that NVIDIA decided not to include the "NEON" chipset instructions in the Tegra2 chip.
The NEON cpu instructions are for hardware acceleration of video decoding, the Tegra2 has to do in software, what the Qualcomm Snapdragon can do in hardware.
This not only means faster rendering of video, but also lower battery usage for the same video playback.
I regularly watch 15+ GB h.264 bluray rips on my LTE tablet, you absolutely would not be able to do that with the Tegra2 Wifi version.
So in pretty much all aspects the Snapdragon is better any downfalls for the AT&T version I should know of? Model SGH-I957 correct?
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So in pretty much all aspects the Snapdragon is better any downfalls for the AT&T version I should know of? Model SGH-I957 correct?
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Yup it is all around a better chip.
Even the graphics chip in it is pretty damn good, and I dare say comparable (better?) to the tegra 2 in 3d acceleration.
However, having said that, there are a number of "Tegra Optimized" games that will only work / look good on tegra devices, simply because they are coded for it.
To me the only reason to get the Tegra equiped model is if there are some tegra optimized games that you just have to have, and if thats the case, I would just get an ASUS Transformer Prime, which has the new Tegra3 quad core, and does have the NEON acceleration for video as well.
BTW my roomate has the ASUS Transformer Prime, its nice, but I would take my 8.9 LTE over it any day of the week, and twice on sunday
Performance wise, they seem pretty damn equal all around, and infact my LTE sometimes seems faster believe it or not.
Plus I love the 8.9 form factor, the 10" just seems like it wastes alot of space, for almost no discernible difference in screen size.
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Plus I love the 8.9 form factor, the 10" just seems like it wastes alot of space, for almost no discernible difference in screen size.
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This is my primary reason why I'm looking at the Tab 8.9, the size and lightness of it. Generally, new, the Tegra 2 version is 400USD. Compared to the AT&T LTE version, which is 630 new or 480 with a two year contract . . . and 35 dollars a month.
I'd like to pick up a Tab 8.9, likely the Tegra 2 version too. But I'm concerned that Samsung is going to refresh it soon. :/
ok stipid question alert. I presume it would be ok to purchase the lte version to use solely in the UK?
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ok stipid question alert. I presume it would be ok to purchase the lte version to use solely in the UK?
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From what i understand the i957 supports just about every gsm/hspa frequency out there.
Thats the main reason they are using the qualcom chip over the tegra, it supports way more frequencies.
I dot know if its unlocked in the sense it can be connected to providers other then att or not though maybe someone else can elaborate on that.
Thanks for the reply. I guess if I want to use just wifi, that wouldnt be a problem.
my other questions are:
If I can remove all at&t branding in the software?
Can I buy the lte version without the at&t logo on the casing?
If someone could confirm if I did put a UK gsm sim card in it, would it work?
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my other questions are:
If I can remove all at&t branding in the software?
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Root, tibu, then freeze or uninstall at&t bloat at your will.
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Can I buy the lte version without the at&t logo on the casing?
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Not that I'm aware of..
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If someone could confirm if I did put a UK gsm sim card in it, would it work?
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Its carrier locked to my knowledge, so you would need to pay to get it unlocked. Im not sure there is a way to do it on board like the galaxy phones..
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