[Q] Milestone: Stuck in bootloader - Hardware issue? - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

So my milestone is Stuck in bootloader.
I have a fair theory on the cause of the problem, i'm here to ask your opinion/advice on what do do now.
My situation is this:
As soon as the battery is inserted, the display immediately powers on, and the phone starts in bootloader mode, displaying the standard 90.73 bootloader text (Bootloader 90.73, Battery OK, OK to Program, Connect USB, Data Cable)
The Bootloader is fully functional (from observation), I can use RSDlite to flash sbf files successfully with no errors.
I Cannot get out of the bootloader into any other software mode (normal or recovery) through any forseeable way.
events that lead up to this problem:
- a few days ago, the camera button became partially defunct, the phone would not register the first stage(focus) of the two stage(focus,shutter) button. I also noticed that for a brief time, the camera button press was registered as a volume down press. ( weird, huh? this seemed to be fixed by a restart )
- following this, the camera button became completely non-functional. the phone would not register any action from the button, and the button would not press down properly ( i suspect the button mechanism came loose? )
- the phone was fine for a day or two, ( with a non-working camera button), until yesterday, when the phone began to function as though the camera button was permanently held down OR being pressed extremely fast - ( camera launching constantly, video camera switching between recordings very fast )
What i did about the latter problem:
- i attempted to delete camera.apk, but i couldn't get to root explorer fast enough before the camera launched again, so i restarted from cm7 into recovery, and attempted to do it via the application management menus.
The camera button was calm for a while, then as i unwittingly forgot that the camera is used as select... it started randomly pressing menus.
(luckily no serious actions were taken, i was in the application management)
I attempted to restart by pressing Shift-Alt-Delete ( because that works in the system - is it a documented restart in openRecovery?)
It restarted into bootloader.
to test the bootloader was working properly, and pre-emptively, i flashed stock 2.1 system & flashed bootloader 90.78, and then back to 90.73.
And that's where I am now.
My theory
the broken Camera button, or whatever piece of circuitry it is attached to is telling the phone that the camera is constantly pressed, or a different button is - I mentioned earlier that it's function swapped with "volume down" temporarily when it first broke.
I think that this could be causing the phone to start in bootloader at each start-up.
( if this is the case, which it may not be... i assumed that i might be able to replace the button parts from another phone in mine. is this practical)
tl;dr ... phone stuck in bootloader, i think it's because the camera button is broken & malfunctioning. suggestions plz
thanks in advance, sorry for the essay.

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Lost Button & Keyboard Functionality

Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
dam1en said:
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
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Sounds like a hardware issue or simply a bad flash. Have you attempted to reflash the rom? Which rom are you using?
Well...
It wasn't working again this morning, but suddenly - out of nowhere - began to work properly. I'm stumped. If I ever figure out the exact issue I'll be sure to post back.
Thanks
Greetings,
I have same problem on my tytn...
Sometimes it suddenly starts working fine, but shortly it breaks again.
I have tried hard-reseting while it was working, but didnt help.
I think the problem appeared after charging my phone with a motorola v3 charger, so maybe it damaged my phone with over-voltage or something...
Anyway, if someone can suggest something i would be very grateful!
Hi I have exactly the same symptoms with my HTC Tytn II...when you power it on it starts typing letters (in my case CEDF). If the recording button is active it will start recording too. This happened suddenly and I haven't used any other charging apart from the usb and wall socket charger supplied with it.
All buttons (except front center key) and keyboard do not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much. This phone is only 8 months old.
Hi,
my Kaiser with dutty's WM6.1WWE ROM did the same this morning Yes I disabled the button 6 and stopped the voice recordings but all the hardware keys but few in the center of the keyboard are not responding. So I cant make or receive calls without taking the stylus out and touching the screen soft buttons andd that's pin in the ... while I am driving. I am using this ROM for almost a year now and I am extremely hapy (up to now) with its performance. When it all happened there were no activities on the phone - I woke up from a SMS notification (Yes I did receive an SMS from my bank) followed by repeting Voice Recordings. Any help will be highly appresiated! Thanks in advance!
keyboard problem
I am experiencing a similar problem with my stock tilt my keyboard does work however none of the text appears on the screen. I have tried hard reset and everything else I could think of, short of a clear storage reload. I would appreciate any help or suggestions from some of you more experienced users.
Bisonwill
anyone ever figure this problem out? im having the same thing happen now.
Same here
I've had it for a couple of weeks now.
I'm running WM6.1 from HTC (rom ver.3.29.422.1 from 2009-01-12) so nothing fancy here.
I even ordered and replaced the D-Pad and I replaced the keyboard (just the sticky part though). I totaly dismantled the phone and didn't find any issues with the cables.
Any ideas would be highly appreciated
Join the club!
This is crazy. My problem is exactly the same. I re-romed to the latest phoenix and it did not change a thing.
Help!
help....
any body here found a solution for the keypad/keyboard yet??? i have the same problem as you guys... any idea, thanks so much...
i have the same problem And there is something else. My Kaiser wakes up every 2 minutes - it's killing the battery. It works only for 6 hours now
Help
bump!!!
No more people with this issue or any solutions?
Pls! Help
ive joined the gang!
I decided to flash my cooked rom ive been working on.
i hadnt changed much in the kitchen and i think the flash has went badly.
it starts booting windows and where it should state "calibrate screen" it goes white and hangs there, buttons seem to respond by lighting up when pressed.
Now when i try to get it into bootloader or even hard reset it just doesnt work.
it just restarts the phone.
before this happened the backspace key hasnt been working for ages.
anybody got any ideas??
(lucky for me i have a backup kaiser!)
I'm having the same problem. Automatic wakeup, applications starting automatically, can't use keyboard, have to to use screen to use phone etc. I've hardreset using the clear storage method, reflashed a couple of times, but nothing helped. So here I am joining the club
If it's not a hardware issue, then try to flash another radio, many of the custom ROMs here doesn't include a radio, so if it's caused by a wrong radio, flash a new ROM without a radio doesn't help.
Check the Sticky for 'how to' if not aware.
PS: Check here for something need to know..
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
Danhargreaves said:
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
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Try this:
1. Take out the battery from the phone.
2. Take out SIM card and SD card.
3. Press in and hold the CAMERA button.
4. Plugin to your computer using the USB cable, while keep holding press in the CAMERA button.
See does it enter the BOOTLOADER mode.
Once entered the BOOTLOADER mode, you can flash a new radio or rom right from there, in your regular way of running KaiserCustomRUU.exe.(Since you already have a HardSPL flashed on, otherwise a HardSPL is needed to flash first.)
Good luck.
Edit: If the power button and the camera button is still working, you can use the regular way of entering BOOTLOADER mode, and flash from bootloader mode or flash from SD card.
Originally posted by Manpreet @ www.sakajati.com
To enter in bootloader mode:
Simply Switch off your phone. Press and hold camera button and also press and hold the power button..You can remove ur finger from power button when phone is switched on but keep holding camera button until u come to bootloader …Now attach the usb to ur computer and do the flashing you normally do.
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Thx for your suggestion:
I tried removing battery as sim and sd were already removed due to previous attempts in fixing!
so:
i removed battery (did not put back in), plugged in while holding camera
got nothing, so held power button at same time, the green light came on, then went off, and came back on again. but no bootloader.
i tried same procedure with battery in, and all i get is the OS loading up, no bootloader no matter how long i hold the buttons.
is there any other alternative method to get into bootloader (possibly involving other button presses)?
or any other ideas.
Really want to fix this as it was my "experimental" phone for cooking roms with.
Thanks again.
Suspect you have some hardware issue with the camera button. Can you ever take a photo with it?
Edit: Did you read through every post onthis thread:
MTTY (How to fix a bad ROM flash!)
If you tried that and still no luck, you can post your questions there. There are masters will keep an eye on that thread. And generally they only have time to look into their 'subscribed' threads, chances are they will not look into here.
Edit: Maybe the procedure I told is wrong, since I call from memory, check this:
dwny said:
If you have a bad flash....that's no reason to worry.
I haven't had to use MTTY to recover.
In most cases, if there's no issues with the Rom itself...you can pop out the battery and re-flash the same ROM from BootLoader Mode. This will also work if for some reason your computer crashes or loses power & restart during the FLASH.
If the Rom has issues.....the flash will not complete and the device will be stuck in BootLoader Mode. At this point,you must FLASH a FACTORY ROM!!
Pop the battery off 1st, power up the device, device will power up in BootLoader Mode, connect to pc & FLASH your devices FACTORY ROM. This will restore your device back to it's original out the box settings.
The above only works if the device has been put through the Hard SPL or SuperCID process.
I personally have never tried to flash a cooked ROM without unlocking any of my devices. From what I've read what others have experienced...the flash would just fail and they're stuck in BootLoader Mode.
Myself ... I've experienced bad flashes, bad cooked roms that I've cooked, lost power to a pc & had my pc crash during a flash. Listed above is how I've recovered. There is life after Bootloader Mode.
The only time you have to worry is if your device does not power up at all
As a public chef...it's your responsibility to set the parameters of your ROM! Meaning, Radio, HardSPL, program conflicts, etc.
You are not ultimately responsible if someone bricks their phone but if they pushed the issue, you could be hit with some form of liabilty because you failed on providing a simple Disclaimer that sets the expectation.
I hope I've been helpful.....
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Edit again:
And try like:
Plug in USB first, and thenn press & hold Camera, Power button etc.
I remember once I read there is a way to enter bootloader without battery, just can not find the original again.

Power button ONLY does restarts

I'm wondering if you guys have any fix for my problem
Here it goes :
One click on power button, it does a screen lock.
The problem is that when i hold my power button, it off the phone by itself.
I'm wondering if I want to bring back the menu when you hold the power button down? ( Besides flashing a new rom of course )
ie. Turn Power Off
Enable Flight Mode
Off Data Connection
Silent Mode
on Darkys v4.1 2.2 Froyo
Mine just started to behave like this aswell. Not out of the blue though, something went wrong with a flash and the phone got corrupted. I fixed it by installing a rom again with cwm and restored backups. Phone works fine now (as far as ive tested) except the powerbutton behaves like you describe, it makes the phone vibrate a few times and then reboots, without showing the menu to opt for shutdown and other options. Very frustrating.
Considering the way it happened im pretty sure some sort of corruption is the cause. I think a full flash with odin or heimdall may be needed. Will report back if I find out how to fix it.
Edit: I cwm-flashed extended power menu to restore my powermenu (well, replace it with custom). Still not sure what caused it, I think careless flashing, possibly involving an incompatible package.

[q] help! Z1 is stuck on safe mode

I went to the beach recently with the Xperia Z1 C6903, and after coming back from the beach, the camera on the phone keeps on opening by itself.
I then decided to reboot my phone, through using the power off, turning it back on method, only to discover my phone is now in "safe mode", which disabled me from using my third party apps.
I then proceeded to search the web for a solution; using the clear cache (volume up + power button), and the red button inside the sim card slot, to which none of them worked.
After this, the phone sometimes cannot operate correctly, as the power button is sometimes disabled (as well as the volume down button). The power button issue can be fixed through the red button inside the sim card, however the volume down button does not seem to work.
I tried factory reset, nothing seemed to have happen apart from me losing all my data and apps.
I tried to flash the stock rom, which I have in place on my phone atm, again, through flashtool, but did not seem to get an answer as safe mode is still on, and the volume down button seems to be dead.
Upon further investigation, I realised that the camera function is also affected by the safe mode, as the camera cannot focus on objects, and the camera button on the Z1 is working, but cannot take a picture (can semi-press and use camera's flash via this way).
I am now leaving my phone to dry, assuming that there is still water inside the phone which is preventing the normal function of the volume down button as well as the camera (and sometimes the power) button.
If anyone has a solution, please respond, and :fingers-crossed: I may have this fixed without going to the Sony service store.
Never take phone to beach...Salt +metal= you know the combo
Try to flash full FTF to see if the software is the problems or just open the phone
Or send it to Sony..........
Shutdown the normal way, then turn on.
Safe mode will disappear.
Never heard that the phone were stuck in safe mode even after a full wipe.
i have the exact same issue ,is there any solution please ?​
Same exact problem
I have exactly the same problem, if there is any way to help please post it.

HTC One M7 non-rooted, hard reboot loop - need help

I've got an AT&T HTC One M7. It's non-rooted and has stock firmware. Android updates from AT&T are installed when pushed. It's all pretty routine. As of yesterday evening, this phone started rebooting and won't stop.
If I leave it alone, it vibrates (normal startup notification), goes to the green on white "htc" screen for a few seconds, then goes blank and starts over. I can get to the bootloader screen, and I've gotten it to start in safe mode as well, but it always restarts again within a few seconds.
Things I've done/found:
- Holding down the volume down button while it restarts takes me to the bootloader menu, but the buttons don't seem to work correctly when I get there, and it always restarts again within a few seconds.
- I managed to start it in safe mode a few times--I think by holding volume up and volume down at the same time--but it restarted before I could do anything.
- I removed the SIM card. Same thing.
- I let it reboot until it died. As soon as I plugged it in, it started the same thing again.
I'm starting to think it's hardware failure, like the power button is constantly making contact, even though the button feels fine to the touch. Note that I get to the bootloader just by holding the volume down button. I don't have to touch the power button. I'm not certain whether that's normal. Can anyone give me any ideas or even just verify that it seems like a hardware problem?

My phone is stuck in the safe mode

Hi Guys
My Samsung M20 phone is stuck in safe mode. It has been 3 years since I bought this phone and because of that, I think the power button is not working. Also since the phone is stuck the screen controls are not working. But before this problem occurred the power button worked very well. I followed some guidelines and tried everything I could to fix this problem. But still, I cannot change the mode to the regular one. To fix this I did,
01. Pressed and held the power button for over a minute, but the option didn’t pop up. (Seems that the button is not working or something else)
02. Screen is not responding to touch.
03. Since the power button is not responding I cannot use the physical method to turn off the safe mode.
I am planning to take this phone to a repair shop. Is there anything I can do from my end to fix this other than going to a repair shop? (I am afraid to let the phone off because of the malfunctioning power button)

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