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Captivate Vs. Inspire 4G

I just upgraded to the captivate about a week and a half ago so I could return it and get the Inspire when it's released if I wanted. I've been looking everywhere trying to compare the two and just can't make up my mind. So, what are some pros and cons of both?
Captivate-
Pros:
AMOLED Screen (4" screen is a pro for me)
Battery Life
Great Dev support already
Thin
Good Camera
Cons:
GPS not as accurate as I'd like
Samsung & AT&T aren't supporting it very well.
Inspire-
Pros:
HTC build quality
HTC Sense
Better Camera
4G Speeds (although my captivate has some amazing speeds with different modems)
Most likely better support
GPS
Cons-
Large non AMOLED screen
Thick
Poor battery life
Kind of a last generation phone (HTC desire HD) with added 4g speeds

I think it will come down to being able to see the two phones side by side once the Inspire 4G actually comes out next Sunday. I also am looking at it, because I've always liked HTC in terms of build quality and HTC Sense, but at the same time my Captivate is a more than capable phone. Sure HSPA+ would be nice, but it's not in my area yet, so I don't really have that to worry about at the moment. I plan on seeing how it performs against the captivate once it's actually out, and then deciding whether I want to buy it or not. I suppose I could lobby for it for a late birthday present, it is 3 days after my bday I'm not going to use an upgrade until AT&T has LTE phones available though, that would be purchased retail.

Because I don't even use data, it doesn't even matter whether it's 4G or not; I just use my Wi-fi.
I think what it's really boiling down for me is just the great quality HTC builds their phones with, plus the fact that Cyanogenmod is already being developed for it.
While my Captivate has been nice for the past month and a half, I'm going to have to ring ATT Warranty ASAP and get the Inspire from them, tell them about my shutdown issues [I had a refurb Captivate to begin with], so they'll have to exchange it for me.
I'm not even going to wait for Atrix or Infuse, not worth it.

How will you get an inspire?
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How will you get an inspire?
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I'm wondering this myself. I know that with Verizon if you have a phone replaced 3 times they will give you a different phone of equal or lesser value, but won't they just replace it for a captivate that doesnt have the shut down issues? I don't see how they would just upgrade you for free....

At&T has already stated that they will not be offering me phone models to those who have had the shutdown issue. This is not to say that some nobody will convince them othwise bit the policy of offering a new model after three replacements has already met resistence from at&T even before people have had the opportunity to try.

shiftylock said:
I'm wondering this myself. I know that with Verizon if you have a phone replaced 3 times they will give you a different phone of equal or lesser value, but won't they just replace it for a captivate that doesnt have the shut down issues? I don't see how they would just upgrade you for free....
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At&T has already stated that they will not be offering me phone models to those who have had the shutdown issue. This is not to say that some nobody will convince them othwise bit the policy of offering a new model after three replacements has already met resistence from at&T even before people have had the opportunity to try.
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It's not an 'upgrade' technically... ATT warranty will make you switch out the phone twice. The third time you call in, they'll probably be reluctant to give you a different make and model, but you have to insist. If that doesn't work, have them transfer you to either a floor manager [they walk around and have administrative rights], a supervisor [not always as effective], or the Resolutions team, which is just a group of administrators that are sometimes really helpful when you're trying to do this.
Obviously you'll have to wait until they actually have refurb Inspires, you're not going to walk in there on launch day and ask them for a refurb... You have to make it as if you aren't obviously looking to get a better phone. What I usually tell them is that the phone has [insert problem here], and once they send me the second phone, I'll check the IMEI, make sure it's in the affected range of IMEIs, and then report it again. By then, you can say something like you went to an ATT RETAIL store, and they told you to call in about this phone that is very similar called the Inspire. When they ask you why you didn't just replace it there, tell them that RETAIL STORES DO NOT OFFER RECONDITIONED PHONES.
By now, they've run out of luck and will process the order for you.
Cheers!

The AMOLED screen sucks. Big time. Text is grainy. Solid colors and gradients look oily/rainbowy. Everything is oversaturated.

im thinking about switching to the Inspire or Atrix (Inspire just got more interesting as I dont like the pricing policiy on the Atrix).
I have had the Captivate for a couple of months now. Nothing wrong with it per se, it des everything its meant to, but I spend my time trying to make it have the look and feel of Sense!
Captivate has a great camera (better pictures than any HTC device I have ever used, and I have had many) and a bigger battery. Screen is very good, but I like bigger screens.
so Im going back and forth. Is there really anything that much better on the Inspire?

I sent back an aria 3 times and they sent me a captivated. So they will upgrade you
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ekerbuddyeker said:
im thinking about switching to the Inspire or Atrix (Inspire just got more interesting as I dont like the pricing policiy on the Atrix).
I have had the Captivate for a couple of months now. Nothing wrong with it per se, it des everything its meant to, but I spend my time trying to make it have the look and feel of Sense!
Captivate has a great camera (better pictures than any HTC device I have ever used, and I have had many) and a bigger battery. Screen is very good, but I like bigger screens.
so Im going back and forth. Is there really anything that much better on the Inspire?
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Camera flash, Droid x screen size, 8 mgp camera, HTC support, community devs, build quality, OS upgrades.
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I was offered a free upgrade to a new inspire after my third captivate failed. I had to really fight for it, but after an ATT rep suggested I find a new phone on EBay, I was mad enough to ask for his supervisor. That did it. Problem solved. I really did want to stay with ATT because our whole extended family is with them, so I asked them to please help keep us from switching. I love the inspire - except for the lack of swype. I miss that feature

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Camera flash, Droid x screen size, 8 mgp camera, HTC support, community devs, build quality, OS upgrades.
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build quality? really have you ever looked inside one of those things? what makes you think it is built better?

The pros a cons from comparing both side by side.
Inspire :
Pros :
Big screen
Great ui
Decent GPS
Great feel
Cons :
Considerably slower than captivate
Horrid battery life(carry your charger)
Confusing settings and menus
Even with sense eventually you're going to flash another ui (on to other things)
Terrible build quality
Captivate:
Pros:
Awesome bright and clear screen(better than the atrix by far)
Good battery life(up to three days)
Thin
Swype
Great community support
Great build quality
Cons:
Terrible GPS unless the sky is clear on all roms
Can drain a battery fast(its powerful)
Kind of small
Now notice how I didn't list support as a pro for either. THE SUPPORT FOR BOTH PHONES IS THROUGH ATT AND SUCKS ASS. Contacting HTC only got me sent to att and it sucked. Just getting a battery rma was a pain.
Now if you want to go for android get the inspire. Its built for android. If you don't mind waiting for gingerbread and spruce then get the captivate. We love our terrible GPS for a reason. Its better all around.
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my gps is fantastic on the captivate, even inside. you are all nuts!
to be honest i have seen gps complaints from friends on just about all smart phones. even the inspire.
captivate pros
thin
light
high contrast screen
fast graphics processor
good battery life
hsupa with ported roms
easy flashing
odin for when you do something dumb
wolfson audiochip + supercurio voodoo sound(enough said)
cons
incosistant gps
rfs on stock roms
inspire pros
fast
sense
hsdpa+ upgradable to hspa+ in the future
big screen
extra ram 768mb vs 512mb
8mp camera
cons
sense
no hsupa or hsupa+
graphics not as fast as galaxy s
lcd screen is not as vivid or high in contrast
heavy
thick
bad battery life
ugly

Dani897 said:
my gps is fantastic on the captivate, even inside. you are all nuts!
to be honest i have seen gps complaints from friends on just about all smart phones. even the inspire
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Can I ask where you live? Ussually some places have better GPS than others(Texas and new York being the best due to building mounted GPS towers).
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Can I ask where you live? Ussually some places have better GPS than others(Texas and new York being the best due to building mounted GPS towers).
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orange county new york. not anywhere near nyc, actually nyc can cause issues with the tall buildings but i can navigate there decently now. i have driven down to philly and dc without issues and up to buffalo. i really dont think it is a regonal thing
it wasn't always that way. jf6 and jh2-3 roms needed a clear sky.
ji6 would crash the gps if i changed settings causing it to fail to start gps untill i preformed a factory reset, simply reverting settings i changed and clearing gps data did not help. (the samsung app also corrected this situation without reverting any settings)
jj4 was the first rom i was able to use the gps without looking at the weather or being carefull about what i did with the gps settings.
with da_g's fix it did not crash like i described above on ji6 based roms.
but now after trying several modems and gps settings i find that there are several good modems. kc1 is my new favorite. kp1 seems to work good on some roms and act erratically on others. jl3 works good for gps as does jk3-4 but jl3 is better than the jk3-4 modems by a small amount. none of those modems are as good in call quality as kp1 and kc1. there may be others that are good.
also ms based modes can cause random blue circles and incoming calls cause loss of gps signal. i think it is an interference problem. but running gps in standalone mode with a kc1 modem and da_g gps fix for good measure gives me the best gps i have ever had on a phone(provided i dont get incoming calls)

The incoming call problem you describe is because the phone a GPS share a chip causing interference. Anyways thank you for the information. Always interesting to see how people fix it. And KB and kc modems have the audience chop so it sounds awesome. Buy it only works with KB and kc kernels as well otherwise you don't get that awesome chip. Anyways thread Jack over.
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I had the captivate and switched to inspire and have liked the inspire so much more since day 1. Sense is a great user interface and runs smoother than touchwiz. there are ways that you can make the battery last longer as well ie juice defender and such. It has a flash for the camera which for whatever reason was lacking from the captivate. The captivate had terrible support from ATT and samsung and i broke two of them in a matter of months. First one the speaker broke second one the power button broke i am not buying a samsung phone ever again because of the captivate

[Q] Is SGS worth buying?

Hey guys, hope ur all good. I am considering buying the SGS cuz they put it on sale (333€ is it a good price?) for a brand new SGS. I have a few question thou.
- Is the GPS fixed in the newer SGS? i want to use the GPS like navigator in my car with navigon or copilot or will the SGS give me problem as a navigator in the car?
- I really wanted a led-flash on the camera but the SGS doesnt provide it, is there another way to use the phone like a flashlight? does the screen work like a flashlight?
-Kies...the software program of hell...from what ive been told and reading is that Kies is piece of crap, and i dont intend to root my phone yet i want it all stock (2.3.3) to begin with, can i upgrade my phone via OTA or is it only KIES ?
i want good call quality, playing some 3d-games, messaging, browsing and checking email and so on..
i can get it for 333€ here where i live in sweden so do u think SGS is worth picking up? I have been watching reviews all the day and i still dont know if i should pick it up or not? whats ur thoughts about this?

Don't buy it. The GPS is so flaky. Ill never buy another Samsung phone.
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ok that was not much for an answer, from what ive been reading is that the newer SGS have fixed GPS, can anyone confirm this?

if you are in the states just wait for the SGS2, if you are in europe, go buy the SGS2.
SGS1 has horrible gps performance, and If I hadn't bought this phone would easily pass it for the SGS2

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Hey guys, hope ur all good. I am considering buying the SGS cuz they put it on sale (333€ is it a good price?) for a brand new SGS. I have a few question thou.
- Is the GPS fixed in the newer SGS? i want to use the GPS like navigator in my car with navigon or copilot or will the SGS give me problem as a navigator in the car?
- I really wanted a led-flash on the camera but the SGS doesnt provide it, is there another way to use the phone like a flashlight? does the screen work like a flashlight?
-Kies...the software program of hell...from what ive been told and reading is that Kies is piece of crap, and i dont intend to root my phone yet i want it all stock (2.3.3) to begin with, can i upgrade my phone via OTA or is it only KIES ?
i want good call quality, playing some 3d-games, messaging, browsing and checking email and so on..
i can get it for 333€ here where i live in sweden so do u think SGS is worth picking up? I have been watching reviews all the day and i still dont know if i should pick it up or not? whats ur thoughts about this?
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€333? Prepay I'm assuming? If so it's a good price, costs closer to €470 here.
GPS is working fine in mine, I'm on 2.3.3 (JVB), get's a lock on 8-9 satellites in 5- 8 seconds. I don't really use it much but my brother in law reckons it's great for navigating around Ireland.
You can use the screen as a flashlight but it will never match an LED flash, used to use my X10 mini as a torch, came in very handy.
Kies is a piece of crap, you're going to have to root and use Odin or Heimdall to get the best out of the phone but it's easy to get the hang of, and there's plenty of help to be found on this site. Having said that, you're in Sweden so you can try Kies if you want, JVH (XEE) is available in your region now.
Call quality for me is fine, only problem I have is with my provider, networks been dire lately. Messaging and email are very user friendly and browsing is great ( I use Dolphin HD, but the stock browser's fine if you don't need multiple tabs open).
Plenty of decent 3D games to be had at decent prices, try Gameloft, haven't paid more than €3 for a game and I've gotton some for €2 and got to pick another for free.
In the end you're the one who has to live with the phone so I'd go to a shop and have a play around with one, see what you think.
One thing to keep in mind though, with the SGS 2 coming the original may drop even further in price. I have friends that work in a mobile shop and they were talking to the Samsung rep recently. He told them that Samsung are going to be releasing a 1.4Ghz single core version of the original alongside the SGS 2. Don't quote me, I'm only repeating what I was told, but if it's true then it's bound to drive the price of the original SGS down even further.

So i am back. I bought a standalone gps from navigon so i dont care about the gps anymore, and now they have SGS for 270€ brand new without contract. should i go for it? How is the call quality?

call quality is good, also TONS of ROMs and Kernels for you to choose from, as you can see there are a lot of support for this phone.
basically you will never get bored of it, as there is always something new for you to suit your needs

I have both the SGS and S2 and both have very good GPS for navigation.

Sgs. Is an azing cell phone, I can do a lot without even rooting it and that includes installing android 2.3.4 and I live in India and have installed European 2.3.4 earlier and gps worked very gud also if you want to root your phone their are tons of amazing. Roms which can get Every little Drop out of your sgs. Now if you don't want to root your phone and really need a flash for camera then you can go for htc incredible see but you will get a super lcd and not a super amoled screen in incredible s! I bought a sgs 1 month ago for 22000 Indian rupees (convert the currency yourself) and I pretty Happy that I bought a sgs and not a incredible s coz after rooting I can play THD games. Also you'll get 16gb internal. Sd card in sgs! Your decision. Make it right!
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SGS is a great phone. Tons of mods and custom roms to choose and excellent support here in XDA.
SGS or SGS II is up to you.
I never had any probs with GPS. Mine locks on in 15 seconds INSIDE MY HOME!!! HONEST! I am on Juwes 5.2 Smart edition/Semaphore 1.5

SGS II is to expensive imo, but if i want to stick with stock rom 2.3 is it laggy?

it was only the first few releases of USA versions that seemed to have lot of GPS issues
i never had problem with mine
anything that was made after August 2010 had the GPS issue fixed already

Everyphone can lag on any,rom either it is stock or custom it jist,depends how you use it ! A pretty low user will not face lags on 2.1 and heavy users can even lag stock2.3.4 or cm7
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Ya my has pretty,awesome gps !
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thx for ur answers guys. is it hard to root and put in cm7 for an example? is cm7 stable? overclocking possible to how much?
do you think samsung will still support it or will it become "old hardware" now when SGS II is released and soon to come SGS III
also is 269€ priceworthy for SGS today? brand new ofc.

romdroid. said:
thx for ur answers guys. is it hard to root and put in cm7 for an example? is cm7 stable? overclocking possible to how much?
do you think samsung will still support it or will it become "old hardware" now when SGS II is released and soon to come SGS III
also is 269€ priceworthy for SGS today? brand new ofc.
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Its very easy to get cm7 and yes it is stable now so you can use it daily.
Depending on the kernel you can over clock up to 1700 mhz
What's a signature?

I've had my SGS since day one. Only had to send it in for repair once because the antenna had been damaged by some dirt that managed to get in my phone (likely from work); the repair was finished and returned to me (through Bell Canada) within 2 weeks, no questions asked.
I've never had a single problem since... GPS locks in under 10 seconds, wifi is perfect, call quality is perfect, display is amazing. Love my SGS.
I DO plan on getting a Moto Atrix or SGSII someday however.

Had before a ZTE Blade and now since 3 months a SGS. I wanted a good and actual Android device for at least ~ 320 EUR, a Galaxy S2 is too expensive. Never regret this buy and bought a 2nd one for my wife 4 weeks ago ;-)

Cpt.Peppy said:
Had before a ZTE Blade and now since 3 months a SGS. I wanted a good and actual Android device for at least ~ 320 EUR, a Galaxy S2 is too expensive. Never regret this buy and bought a 2nd one for my wife 4 weeks ago ;-)
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ye i sold my blade yesterday, great phone for the price but i feelt like upgrading

the choise just got harder. Xiaomi Phone or SGS?

[Q] should i buy this ...thing ?

Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated

The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.

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The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?

Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.

Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen

and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option

xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.

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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.

IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.

keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying

Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.

The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.

I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
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Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
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thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player

Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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goatee said:
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)

xilw3r said:
lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .

goatee said:
but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?

Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
xilw3r said:
thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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[Q] A Rhetorical Question: Should I Buy The 2X?

Thats right people, i just made the million dollar question. As a quick background, ive owned an ETEN X500 (terrible phone), an HTC TD2 (ridiculous newton rings issues) and up until a few days i was a proud owner of an Acer Liquid E, which was, with the help of some geniuses up at modaco, an amazing handset which had cost me only about 280 euros more than a year ago. Due to a terrible car accident (from which i miraculously survived almost intact) the Liquid fell into the sea and, well, thats all with that. As you can tell im not into paying incredible money for a phone, since i hate contracts (pay-as-you-go is the future lol), so id rather save up and pay for an unlocked device. I have found a pretty good deal on the Optimus 2X, about 380 Euros, which i consider great for a dual-core device, but as i keep on reading page after page here, im quite shocked on the amount of issues this phone has. The screen bleeding is really nothing new for an IPS LCD display, ive seen it b4 and im sure ill see it again, and its only noticeable in extreme situations (full brightness, black background and nothing else) so im not so much worried about it. The lag/freeze/reboot situation is a completely different issue of course. There are so many people experiencing these problems that one may think that the 2X is a faulty device by design, but im still not totally convinced about it. Are we seriously talking about bad HW here, or is there any substantial hope of getting a holy-grail-type SW fix? I know that this has been talked over again and again and i have already read more than 50 pages on that, so my question goes more to the people that have done serious research on the issue and could, possibly, have a more global view on it. The phone does have all im lookin for on a device: dual-core CPU, LCD display (S-AMOLED burn-in? no thanx), HDMI, 1080p video, affordable.. But having lots of doubts, as expected.
Anyways, any thoughts/replies would be very welcome.
PS Even if i dont end up buying the phone, good luck to the owers
Peace

Buy it, root it, install CM7 on it, most issues would be gone. Gingerbread also slated to come soon. This is a value for money phone imo.

The freeze problem I think are not on every device. I think that some countries do not have this prohlem at all. Like here in Slovakia I read a lot of reviews and people reviews, and no one was affected by this problem. So I bought it too, and never this problem never happened so far. So... you make a conclusion
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Buy the phone, The bang for buck is high regarding performance. Screen is good and if you lucky like me almost no back bleeding. The phone itself has a solid build and you get the Quality feel when you hold it. Camera is good and HD recording as well.
I only had the random reboot issue at the begging but with the latest Update its better now, has occurred but not that often like 1 in a month or something. Lags sometimes when installing apps or the F-secure is doing its thing.
Overall i'm happy with the phone, Just wished that LG put more ram and faster NAND. However don't get me wrong the phone doesn't bottleneck because of this performance wise. If i where you and wanted powerhouse that's cheap then the 2x is for you.
Also note that i run Stock ROM froyo, think with GB things will get better.
A tip if you get it change the launcher right away or put another ROM(CM7 or Modaco if you ask me, also check out MIUI) and Kernel.
(Haven't done it myself cause of lack of time, need to start exploring Android dev wise. Used to work with Winmo 6.1 on my xperia x1 (old dev) ).

If you have plans to use custom ROMs, buy it. I never had any problems with it.
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Thanx for the replies guys, its good to know that things may not be as bad for everybody. I guess i might take my chances with this one.. Ill def be doing some more reading bout it though.. thanc again

I compared 5 phones:
Sony Ericsson Arc - no front facing camera
Motorola Atrix - no FM radio
Samsung Galaxy S2 - great phone, but a little out of my budget
HTC Sensation - a real contender, but more expensive than the LG and starting to get close in price to the Samsung
LG O2X - the lowest price with all the features I wanted.
I've had one reboot in over one month's use: I had the LG tethered to my notebook (works surprisingly well as a 3G modem). Surfing the net and charging the phone at the same time. I then started making voice calls and Tango video calls while still tethered to the internet and charging.
I could feel the LG starting to get a little warm and then bada bing! Re-boot.
I think I pushed it a little too hard that day.
Under normal use and conditions, my LG works well.
I would happily buy another one of these bronze beauties.
(I think black is also available, but I only ever seem to see the bronze coloured handsets)

Rhetorical answer - No.
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Hi mate, are you from Italy?
I bought it 10 days ago at the same price you said on an Italian website (maybe the same u saw) and I had a lot of BSOD. IMO when you find it at a very low price it's because they have "bad" phones and they want to sell them as soon as possibile but I don't know if this is true!
But you have to consider that with the warranty you are almost sure that any issue will be resolved, you just have to wait... Mine is at the LG center right now and I'm waiting for it. Luckyli my HTC Magic is still working, so I have a good replacement during the wait!
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand everything
CYA

After first few days I was realy disapointed. The SW is realy but realy crap, battery was overheating, lasted only few hours. Response of the phone was very slow and I had few reboots. After 3 days I rooted it, flashed MODACO rom and ... I couldnt get better device for the price.
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With modaco no modaco cm7 this phone is crap going back to iphone when it comes out !gs2 froam samsung is the king !my friend has it is super fast no lags wait befoure you buy i have this phone froam april its not good i paid it 500 €!
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legolittlebrick said:
Hi mate, are you from Italy?
I bought it 10 days ago at the same price you said on an Italian website (maybe the same u saw) and I had a lot of BSOD. IMO when you find it at a very low price it's because they have "bad" phones and they want to sell them as soon as possibile but I don't know if this is true!
But you have to consider that with the warranty you are almost sure that any issue will be resolved, you just have to wait... Mine is at the LG center right now and I'm waiting for it. Luckyli my HTC Magic is still working, so I have a good replacement during the wait!
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand everything
CYA
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I am in Spain actually and it seems that my case looks a lot like yours. The retailer is very well known and it sells in all Europe. There is only 1-5 phones on stock at the moment so i think that maybe its a 'bad batch' that they are trying to get rid of, hence the low price tag. Mixed opinions here as well, so.. im really not sure about it at all. Continue reading

I'm satisfied of the phone...
When I buy it I had a lot of SODs with stock rom, but now with CM7 and MIUI this phone is much better...
Call quality is good
Camera is good (the glass in front of camera is crap...you have to clean it every time otherwise it causes the "myst" problem on the photos)
Battery is average
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Its done.. Ordered the phone today, should have it by wednesday.. Fingers crossed..

Good luck.
Phone: LG Optimus 2X
Android version: 2.2.2
Baseband version: 1035.21-20110614
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
LGE version: LGP990-V10c
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So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around

Ximo F. Verde said:
So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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in Holland u can get it for €318,-
its alot cheaper then the €478,- for the galaxy S2 and Sensation.
2 of my hfriends have a sensation and galaxy s2. mine is the fastest
(i want an optimus 3d now )

i can only choose between LG O2x or Nexus S, i like the timely software support of the S but the specs on LG are way superior...should i just get the LG?

Ximo F. Verde said:
So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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Abot the battery issue, Ive been having it too after one month using it. The thing is, that the phone actually gets charged, but somehow the phone unable to detect the actual battey level.
I found that restarting the phone will get the phone to redetect the battery again. I think its a SW problem though, so any custom ROM will likely fix the problem.

goothu99 said:
i can only choose between LG O2x or Nexus S, i like the timely software support of the S but the specs on LG are way superior...should i just get the LG?
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If you like to have the latest version of Android OD with no bells and whistles then get the Nexus.
If you like to wait 6+ months for LG to install a boatload of crap (that nobody wants) into a phone, then be late for work every other day because the alarm didn't work etc etc then go for the LG.
Nexus S anytime.

How is the GPS

Hello everyone,
I don't know if most don't care about it or I just can't find any information about it... But how is the GPS in this phone?
I use my phone to track my runs with Endomondo, so the more accurate the GPS is, the better (also a quick fix would be preferable)
I'm undecided between the Z3c, Z3, Nexus 5 and Galaxy S5. But I can't seem to find any comparison.
Thanks in advance.

Basch89 said:
Hello everyone,
I don't know if most don't care about it or I just can't find any information about it... But how is the GPS in this phone?
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Its smooth as ****. True I havent used it with any running programs but in G Maps its instant lock on and it hasnt steered me wrong since release.

Cross the Nexus 5 off that list if you care about GPS. That phone has a terrible problem with many of its units.

Servaas said:
Its smooth as ****. True I havent used it with any running programs but in G Maps its instant lock on and it hasnt steered me wrong since release.
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That's good news! Does it ever drop (loose itself) or is the location always precise? Had a GS3 with CM and it constantly dropped GPS position and Endomodo went nuts...
darkgoon3r96 said:
Cross the Nexus 5 off that list if you care about GPS. That phone has a terrible problem with many of its units.
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Yeah I heard mixed feelings about the N5s GPS... Still think it's one of the best looking phones out there, but I can't have a phone with poor GPS accuracy...

Precise. Car usage with Google maps on three network. Greater London usage

dillalade said:
Precise. Car usage with Google maps on three network. Greater London usage
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Thanks for the info!
I guess I've decided what phone I'm gonna buy next! Pretty excited to switch back to Android! WP was a fun experiment but to boring

Had the Z3C with me on two cycling trips and recorded (with Mapfactor Navigator) one GPX track with about 70km and another one with some 50km. No glitches, no drops anywhere, even dense forest gave no issues at all, dead on all the way. And no, the phone was not mounted to the handlebar with clear view to the sky but in the saddlebag. Quick fix? Yes, very much so. Only takes a few seconds to find its position.
I'm really impressed from what I've seen so far and the Z3C may even outperform my Garmin Oregon 450.