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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Note-...d=1342897099&sr=8-22&keywords=otg+card+reader
i was wondering if this will work on the nexus 7 for expanded storage *root+stickmount as i don't want to be carrying a cable and then a card reader
in case no one had experience with it, i guess I'll have to find out and report back
What I wanna know is, will it charge it through the Micro USB port?
well the USB is two way so theoretically it should work right?
That's what I was thinking...
I just bought this card reader I'll try it tomorrow.
testaccount said:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Note-...d=1342897099&sr=8-22&keywords=otg+card+reader
i was wondering if this will work on the nexus 7 for expanded storage *root+stickmount as i don't want to be carrying a cable and then a card reader
in case no one had experience with it, i guess I'll have to find out and report back
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Izzue said:
I just bought this card reader I'll try it tomorrow.
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If you try this, can you report if it's possible to charge through this while mounting sdcard or using USB. I haven't got the Nexus 7 yet, and will only consider it if it's possible to charge while using usb host. But i'm curious about being able to use external storage and charging at the same time, cause i want a 7" tablet to replace the screen in my car.
I tried to read in the other threads about external storage, and quite a few is asking about this as well, but i haven't been able to find an answer to the question.
ronni.rasmussen said:
If you try this, can you report if it's possible to charge through this while mounting sdcard or using USB. I haven't got the Nexus 7 yet, and will only consider it if it's possible to charge while using usb host. But i'm curious about being able to use external storage and charging at the same time, cause i want a 7" tablet to replace the screen in my car.
I tried to read in the other threads about external storage, and quite a few is asking about this as well, but i haven't been able to find an answer to the question.
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That doesn't work with my galaxy note since the reader can only read from 1 source at a time (e.g. It can't read sd card and usb at the same time). I also tried plugging the reader into my note's micro usb port and plugging the charging cable into the reader's micro usb port and it does not charge the phone.
Havn't tried it on the n7 since I havn't got around to rooting it yet to use with stickmount but I reckon the results will be the same.
Izzue said:
That doesn't work with my galaxy note since the reader can only read from 1 source at a time (e.g. It can't read sd card and usb at the same time). I also tried plugging the reader into my note's micro usb port and plugging the charging cable into the reader's micro usb port and it does not charge the phone.
Havn't tried it on the n7 since I havn't got around to rooting it yet to use with stickmount but I reckon the results will be the same.
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Thanks for the reply!
I think the only possible solution for this might be an OTG-Y cable
Found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p10LgZFIawo
Which might work, the question is just if the Nexus 7 accepts it. Anyhow, in his description he writes that it's to power connected USB elements, but in the video he claim that the tablet is charging.
Why doesn't someone make this into a dock with a back?
Then you could have a memory card installed, connected to a keyboard/mouse, and power. Then you could just dock the N7 and have access to all that.
that would be sweet
does it work then?
I got it today and it worked great while it lasted
Came home and realized I have lost it somewhere, I blame google /Asus for not giving us a SD slot
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testaccount said:
I got it today and it worked great while it lasted
Came home and realized I have lost it somewhere, I blame google /Asus for not giving us a SD slot
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You lost it..? OMG you just got it. But it worked? Now I'm curious. Hmmm. Might have to order one.
Yeah, I really want to know as well. Did it properly charge while using USB or SD? If it did I'll probably order one ASAP.
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it charges and read from my sd card at the same time in the limited time i had it, waiting for my 2nd one to arrive, trying not to lose it this time around
testaccount said:
it charges and read from my sd card at the same time in the limited time i had it, waiting for my 2nd one to arrive, trying not to lose it this time around
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Do I have to be rooted for this to work?
proud_whovian said:
Do I have to be rooted for this to work?
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to charge no but to use external storage yes
in short you should
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testaccount said:
to charge no but to use external storage yes
in short you should
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I wasn't going to bother rooting cause there was nothing I needed that the device didn't have as in but looks like I now have a reason to go read the rooting tutorial I saw somewhere around here
Looks like there is a chance that my wish has been granted so i will be able to charge and use microUSB as OTG at the same time.
http://translate.google.com/transla...aer-asus-officiella-tillbehoer-exklusivt.html
Hope so
Note: I haven't looked for a solution for this for quite a while, but last time i checked it seemed as a kernel hack was needed.
With this thing I can just watch video and music that I have on the card directly, I don't need to transfer it to the device or anything right?
Sidenote, will the nexus 7 show up with a drive letter when I plug it into my computer after rooting??
with Sd cards they usually label speed by class (like class 10)
but with thumb flash drives, how do you know how fast they are?
anybody know a good fast,but cheap 32gig thumb drive model?
getting an OTG, and connecting to galaxy nexus tablet
do usb 3.0 work faster on this tablet than usb 2.0 flash drives?
SayWhat10 said:
with Sd cards they usually label speed by class (like class 10)
but with thumb flash drives, how do you know how fast they are?
anybody know a good fast,but cheap 32gig thumb drive model?
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they is usually speed rating on the back of the box .
defcomg said:
they is usually speed rating on the back of the box .
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well im shopping online, love amazon, cant see that info
Patriot Rage ones are pretty quick. As has been said if you check the manufacturers website they have speed ratings normally listed there.
USB 3.0 wont give you any quicker speeds on the nexus but with it being so readily available you might aswell get one for if you ever get usb 3 on your pc, which will make transferring files to it quicker.
I'm in the same boat, looking for a 64GB one after next pay day!
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e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/32GB-Patrio...OPJQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353406519&sr=8-1
don't know if that comes under your "cheap" category!
MPJ88 said:
Patriot Rage ones are pretty quick. As has been said if you check the manufacturers website they have speed ratings normally listed there.
USB 3.0 wont give you any quicker speeds on the nexus but with it being so readily available you might aswell get one for if you ever get usb 3 on your pc, which will make transferring files to it quicker.
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I second this, although you won't gain anything directly in the n10 with a well rated usb3 thumb drive you are setting yourself up well then. 1) If you use it with any usb3 hardware the transfer speeds are fantastic and 2) for the most part any well speced/reviewed usb3 drive will be transferring at the quickest whatever usb2 speeds the n10 (or any other usb2 device) can handle. (All depending on file sizes and such as well, for the most part lots and lots of tiny files are horridly slow writing to almost any thumb drive).
SayWhat10 said:
with Sd cards they usually label speed by class (like class 10)
but with thumb flash drives, how do you know how fast they are?
anybody know a good fast,but cheap 32gig thumb drive model?
getting an OTG, and connecting to galaxy nexus tablet
do usb 3.0 work faster on this tablet than usb 2.0 flash drives?
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You should be limited by a USB2.0 OTG cable anyway, so no a USB3 device would do nothing.
While I dont usually see it advertised, you can read through the description and the better ones usually like to advertise how they are better. Some say things like "dual channel flash chips for added speed" Another example:
With 4 channel architecture and only the finest NAND, Ventura Pro is a pro for a reason.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226227
It would be great if we were able to install Android onto that USB flash drive through an OTG adapter. It would be far faster than the built in NAND
Just get this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136996
1TB of space in a small device and no external power needed.
punzada said:
I second this, although you won't gain anything directly in the n10 with a well rated usb3 thumb drive you are setting yourself up well then. 1) If you use it with any usb3 hardware the transfer speeds are fantastic and 2) for the most part any well speced/reviewed usb3 drive will be transferring at the quickest whatever usb2 speeds the n10 (or any other usb2 device) can handle. (All depending on file sizes and such as well, for the most part lots and lots of tiny files are horridly slow writing to almost any thumb drive).
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Why won't you gain anything on the Nexus with USB 3.0 ? There is a huge speed difference between 2 and 3. The N10 supports USB 3.0.
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The N10 doesnt support usb 3 speeds.
MPJ88 said:
The N10 doesnt support usb 3 speeds.
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You're right. I was thinking Bluetooth 3.0
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MPJ88 said:
The N10 doesnt support usb 3 speeds.
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Actually I read somewhere the hardware does support USB 3.0. While not equipped with the port tho, this could be a possibility with a pogo dock of some sort. Have neo clue if that even supports it. Would be quite nice if it did take advantage of the internal hardware.
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I own a portable HD that is usually plugged into my PC, can cary it around when I want to take my movies or games with me (share with friends)
But the point of a tablet ,for me, is to have something portable that doesnt get in the way. And a bigass HD does get in the way even if it's portable.
So I just ordered this:
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008R6OPJQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Will use like an external SD card (will put all my titanium backups and such on it, and mount it with Sitckmount)
Also stick some videos in there when im on a trip.
I have recently gotten Nexus 7 and I want to add more storage. I want to use a USB drive and i know I can use a USB-OTG. Is it possible to read, write, and copy from the USB when plugged in? How and with what apps? I'm an android noob BTW so yeah. If I have to root it, how?
Look up WugFresh root kit, and root your device. Then you need to install the app StickMount by chainfire from the play store, and a file manager I'd you don't have one already. Lastly you will need a USB OTG cable (I've bought a few off amazon).
This is what I did way back when, if methods have changed someone post please.
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With some custom kernels, you wont even need stickmount. For best compatibility, make sure to format the external hdd to fat fs. I use 2 160Gb hdd's with mine. A 2.5" wd passport when out and about, and a 3.5" while "docked" at home. If your gonna buy an otg, then just buy the y cable. It gives you otg+charging ability at the same time, provided you use a kernel which provides that support.
Best kernels for this is Timurs (with or without bis custom rom), or metallices m-kernel.
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For Rooting your Nexus, one of the best Guides I have found is the one at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1741395
OR if you are using a Debian based Linux Distro, I've found this to be the best, which includes pictures as well:
http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/android/...nexus-7-tablet
Both provide very clear instructions on what needs to be done. My Windows machine is having driver issues so I used Ubuntu and everything is flawless with those steps.
I've learned that toolkits can be useful, but what happens if something breaks during the process or does not complete like it should? Knowing how to do it via the steps provided above will only help you in the future. Let me know what you think!
After Rooting, I personally use StickMount (v.2.20) with my OTG cable and it works excellent! You can find it in the Play store if needed. It will allow you to Mount and Unmount your USB thumbdrives/harddrives BUT it definitely sucks down your battery, especially when using a larger capacity HD such as my 500 GB External HD.
Here is also a link to the OTG cable that I purchased and used:
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Micro-USB-OTG-Adapter/dp/B005QX7KYU/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
I'm using stickmount with an OTG cable I just purchased. Works fine with my camera but it won't recognise my WD usb 3.0 hd.
I bet the reason for this is because when using USB 3.0 it requires more power to push at the higher speeds, even though it is still using backwards compatible 2.0...
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demonking07 said:
I'm using stickmount with an OTG cable I just purchased. Works fine with my camera but it won't recognise my WD usb 3.0 hd.
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Is this USB bus-powered or are you using an adapter?
USB 1.1/2.0 can only source 500mA = 2.5W and that often isn't enough to power a spinning HDD. I wouldn't expect to get much juice out of a tablet or smartphone anyway. Putting extra regulator circuitry on the board just for USB requires space, cooling, and power.
If the HDD didn't come with an AC adapter, you can try connecting it through a powered hub.
I bought official Samsung adapter from their website, it is the one specifically listed for the Tab 3 8. Here is how it's advertised:
This Micro USB to USB connection pocket-size device turns your Galaxy Tab into a USB host, allowing you to connect compatible USB accessory devices such as keyboards, mice, thumb drives and more to your Tab.
When it arrived yesterday, the manual lists two compatible devices: USB memory stick and a Samsung laser printer. Needless to say, I am very disappointed & hope I can return it.
As I well understand, you don't even try to connect mouse, keyboard via USB? Just give it a try. It should works. I don't have Samsung OTG cable, but owning a different brand and everything works(pendrives, mouse, keyboard).
Sorry if I misunderstand you
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marek_poland said:
As I well understand, you don't even try to connect mouse, keyboard via USB? Just give it a try. It should works. I don't have Samsung OTG cable, but owning a different brand and everything works(pendrives, mouse, keyboard).
Sorry if I misunderstand you
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I tried a USB hard drive, locked it up.
Do you have HDD with separate AC? If not you might never connect with that kind of HDD
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Mine works great I've connected a mouse, key board, thumb drive and camera without a problem
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I did try a mouse - it works, but I see no value to that when I have a touch screen. I only got the adapter so I could watch movies from my Passport without having to copy them.
LLoyd
I just tried my thumbdrive/OTG and it worked fine.
I then tried my Toshiba external hard drive, and it recognized it on the tablet, but
the external drive kept beeping, and I could not feel the drive spinning up. I took the external off
and plugged it into my computer and it worked fine.
Im wondering that since the external isn't powered with an adapter, but relies on the juice from
the source, maybe the tablet doesn't have enough to spin it up to work.
I don't have an external hard drive with a separate power source to check.
Could this be whats wrong ? I agree with Marek and think it needs the power source.
I haven't tried a wireless mouse and keyboard but will next.
Im using the StickMount APK also.
lloydsw said:
I did try a mouse - it works, but I see no value to that when I have a touch screen. I only got the adapter so I could watch movies from my Passport without having to copy them.
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External power might be a reason, I don't have one that uses external power.
Per the 'manual', the max size of a thumbdrive is 32GB, may also be why my 2TB Passport didn't work.
Good point about the 32gb limit. I got ahold of a external powered and will check it. Should know in about an.hour and will post the results.
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I plugged a 250gb powered external HD, that was on a Win 7 machine, into the OTG for my T310.
It recognized it, but came up as empty, and unsupported file system.
Since there was already stuff on it, I didn't want to format it or anything to see if
I could get further with it.
But it did recognize it as a drive. I don't know why it couldn't see anything on it though.
Im gonna see if I can get a 64gb thumbdrive and try that. I know the 32gb works.
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Good point about the 32gb limit. I got ahold of a external powered and will check it. Should know in about an.hour and will post the results.
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roninep said:
I plugged a 250gb powered external HD, that was on a Win 7 machine, into the OTG for my T310.
It recognized it, but came up as empty, and unsupported file system.
Since there was already stuff on it, I didn't want to format it or anything to see if
I could get further with it.
But it did recognize it as a drive. I don't know why it couldn't see anything on it though.
Im gonna see if I can get a 64gb thumbdrive and try that. I know the 32gb works.
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My 32 gb worked fine, it's just not useful for the reason I bought the adapter. I really wanted stream, via the tablet, off my passport. Oh well. Stick it in a drawer & sell it with the tablet when the time comes.
First of all android devices dont support NTFS formated Drives out of the box.
Second , most external usb hard drives require more than 500 milliamps to 1amp in order to work.
Solutions,
Get ntfs support from the play store.
Use external power supply for hard-drives.
External HDD
roninep said:
I plugged a 250gb powered external HD, that was on a Win 7 machine, into the OTG for my T310.
It recognized it, but came up as empty, and unsupported file system.
Since there was already stuff on it, I didn't want to format it or anything to see if
I could get further with it.
But it did recognize it as a drive. I don't know why it couldn't see anything on it though.
Im gonna see if I can get a 64gb thumbdrive and try that. I know the 32gb works.
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I've tested a WD MyBook 2TB external on my tab and it works fine. My hard drive was formatted as ext4 from my linux box and mounted up just fine. Data transfers as fast as you can write it.
External power is a must.
How long do you think that battery can spin a drive?
faria said:
First of all android devices dont support NTFS formated Drives out of the box.
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Doing cat /proc/filesystems tells me I have NTFS as default on my GT-5210
OT
It would be great with some sort of expectation, what purpose did you buy this usb cable for?
somebody connected a RCA cable with adapter microUSB/USB?
For the power supply: maybe an external powered USB hub? It won't be portable but it might work.
I have a Sprint LTE TAB 3 7.0, I cant seem to find a Microusb to HDMI, any thoughts?
Thanks
Found this on amazon for the Vivo tab, which uses the same 36-pin connector as the TF701. So I bought it for $20US hoping it would work with the 701 and it does! Plugged in the OTG adapter and attached my sandisk extreme usb 3 thumbdrive. Used the included SD/uSD card adapter to connect a couple SD cards and had no problems. Didn't do any speed tests or anything, just wanted to make sure they worked, and they did.
ASUS Extension Kit for VivoTab-Series Tablets
Aaroneious said:
Found this on amazon for the Vivo tab, which uses the same 36-pin connector as the TF701. So I bought it for $20US hoping it would work with the 701 and it does! Plugged in the OTG adapter and attached my sandisk extreme usb 3 thumbdrive. Used the included SD/uSD card adapter to connect a couple SD cards and had no problems. Didn't do any speed tests or anything, just wanted to make sure they worked, and they did.
ASUS Extension Kit for VivoTab-Series Tablets
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Wow... Great find!
Hey - happen to have a PS3 controller you could test with? Almost bought the dock purely for this purpose, so I'm dying to know if plugging a controller in through USB would work...
If this really is fully supported by the tf701t, I'm seriously questioning why they didn't say so?
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Trevor_g said:
Wow... Great find!
Hey - happen to have a PS3 controller you could test with? Almost bought the dock purely for this purpose, so I'm dying to know if plugging a controller in through USB would work...
If this really is fully supported by the tf701t, I'm seriously questioning why they didn't say so?
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Sorry, no, I don't have a PS3 controller.
Aaroneious said:
Sorry, no, I don't have a PS3 controller.
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No problem. There is another way to find out. Do you have a USB mouse and/or keyboard handy? If you wouldn't mind testing these basic peripherals, we could really verify if this thing provides host mode for more than disk drives.
If so, I'm buying!
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No problem. There is another way to find out. Do you have a USB mouse and/or keyboard handy? If you wouldn't mind testing these basic peripherals, we could really verify if this thing provides host mode for more than disk drives.
If so, I'm buying!
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Standard mouse and keyboard both work fine when plugged into the OTG adapter.
Shocking. Why in the world would Asus not bother marketing this toward the TF community too?!
Glad you found this. Thanks for sharing and testing... Off to buy!
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In 4 one. 9 left in stock. Now all I need is an extra usb cable. Can anyone point me to one?
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guho said:
In 4 one. 9 left in stock. Now all I need is an extra usb cable. Can anyone point me to one?
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Yeah I just want the extra cable - assume any vivo tab one works?
OTG USB adapter
I have ordered one too. Thanks for the link. :cyclops:
OTG USB Adapter
That's good idea, but unfortunately I can't buy this thing. There are blutooth usb-hub, for example _ttp://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00142
Will it work?
can someone find me the right product on the german amazon site? or uk?
i cant find
Can you charge and use USB with this?
Nice
Finaly, i recieved my OTG USB adapter today, and it works perfectly.
Thanks for the link.
or you can just buy the one meant for the transformer and it's a few dollars cheaper if you can't get the other one. Just doesn't come with the SD card adapter. This is the one that I intend to buy once I get my tablet
evodev said:
or you can just buy the one meant for the transformer and it's a few dollars cheaper if you can't get the other one. Just doesn't come with the SD card adapter. This is the one that I intend to buy once I get my tablet
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Warning: This will not work with our TF701!!!!!! Read the Q&A below the product description !!
should the one for the tf700t also work?
The adapters mentioned that work with the 701 are all usb-2.
Does anyone know of a usb-3 adapter that will work?
matthelm said:
Can you charge and use USB with this?
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I'm considering getting a TF701T, does anyone know if you could use this to charge the device? It'd be nice to know I have a backup if the proprietary USB cable fails.
nop- said:
I'm considering getting a TF701T, does anyone know if you could use this to charge the device? It'd be nice to know I have a backup if the proprietary USB cable fails.
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Also can you simultaneously power the device and provide input using a usb hub(plug in keyboard and mouse for example)?
I went to the computer store. Bought the following:
The adapter which is 2.0 by the way.
USB 3.0 HUB with Power Adaper.
A male to A male cable.
While connected to a the HUB, and while the device is on its says "NOT CHARGING". I turn it off(tablet), Not getting a charge while connected to a the hub. It also drained it while the tablet is off. Nevermind the hub for power.
NO CHARGE FROM HUB
While connected to the PC it drained the power down to 6% then went back up to 50%. Not sure about that because it seemed to charge while it was off.
NO CHARGE FROM PC
As for the power adapter that comes with the tablet to it. Not charging while ON. Turn it off and no charge.
NO CHARGE FROM ASUS POWER ADAPTER
SO no it doesnt charge in any practical sense from this VIVO adapter as far as i can tell. Maybe its the MALE to MALE cable. I dont know. But its not worth trying if there a chance of drain killing it.
Unfortunately from the adapter there is no media connection or usb debugging to pc or usb hub afiak.
NO MEDIA CONNECTION OR USB DEBUGGING
The good news is that the device can connect to the USB HUB and the keyboard , mouse and thumb drive work flawlessly together.