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I know there is already a post on this, but it applied mostly to grey market diamonds. I would like to hear from some people who have recently bought official HTC diamonds from their service providers.
My phone's screen is perfect. No yellow tints and no lines/rainbowing. However, the top and bottom panels are not flush with one another meaning that at a certain angle, the backlight bleads out a little on the left side where the panels meet. In addition, the top panel does not align with the rim of the phone properly so that there is a thin gap - this is quite annoying as the gap appears to have already accumilated dust/lint.
My phone is from Orange and I received it a few days ago. I can't say that these 'issues' bother me too much, but I would like to hear how common they are and whether they might pose problems etc. If this is a rarity and I have been unlucky I may consider swapping it for another Diamond.
Thanks,
S.
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Why the silence guys? :-(
Share your thoughts please. I lead a pretty hectic life so build is v. important for me, so your opinions/perspectives would really help.
Only thing I have noticed on mine is that the printed ring around the wheely thingy is not central.
Seriously, I think it's fine.
My Diamond is perfect. Came from my provider here in Finland, and no issues with build quality at all.
Probably not silence, more likely most have no issues!
Certainly none with mine.
I have a TMobile MDA Vario IV Compact and have no hardware build quality issues (don't get me started on the default software branding ! YUCK !)
Fair enough. The question is, do I swap this diamond which works flawlessly and has a great screen, for another which in all probability will not, for the sake of cosmetic perfection?
I'm thinking NO.
Grey market ?!
My HTC is 100% official but I bought it directly from a high street dealer rather than from my GSM provider.
I usually do that for two reasons - Firstly it's quicker when you want to get hold of new trendy phones Secondly I don't have to bother with simlocking and operator limitations
....and the rebate is often better.
Please don't think that only operator branded copies are genuine.
BTW - You should keep your handset if you're happy with it
FH1 said:
Only thing I have noticed on mine is that the printed ring around the wheely thingy is not central.
Seriously, I think it's fine.
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i have the same problem .. .. well it isnt really a problem at all ... and i have a dead pixel .. but just 1 pixel in a 640x480 screen is not noticeable at all
perfect diamond here. got it from provider first day it came.
got mine today on t-mobile uk. its perfect!
Had mine since it was launched on Orange and the only problem I have is one dead pixel which is stuck on blue. It's almost impossible to see without really looking for it though so doesn't really bother me.
same here.. bought it from vodafone. not a single *build* flaw
So no-one can see any amount of white light leakage through a tiny gap where the two panels meet then? I must have an extremely rare phone! lol.
I have a slight gap with light leakage, doesn't bother me as you can't really tell with the top and bottom screen protector on and lined up peroperly.
I don't think its very rare as I've seen a few video's with the same problem. I read someone on here had the same issue and tried returning it but was apparently told it was within HTC's build tolerance.
When you say screen protector, do you mean a third-party one you have bought yourself?
Interesting re HTC build tolerance. Hmm...
I use a martin fields protector which comes with the screen protector and a protector for the bottom button bit.
kien said:
I have a slight gap with light leakage, doesn't bother me as you can't really tell with the top and bottom screen protector on and lined up peroperly.
I don't think its very rare as I've seen a few video's with the same problem. I read someone on here had the same issue and tried returning it but was apparently told it was within HTC's build tolerance.
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I have this "gap" as well, but it is miniscual and I'm sure its on most of the devices....you just have to look real Hard.
My gf's Diamond is almost perfect. I just noticed the stylus to be slightly misplaced... But she didn't even noticed it, so it's not a big deal.
Mine looks perfect, but I have a little backlight leakage on the bottom of my screen. Means a yellow/white spot on the bottom of my screen.
I dropped my hd2 facedown onto a rock on my driveway. It shattered the screen from top to bottom. Otherwise the phone is in perfect condition, no scratches or chips from the fall and the lcd is fine too.
From what I've concluded, getting the lcd/digitizer/glass pre-assembly would be my best bet as the digitzer is glued onto the glass and the flex is soldered onto the lcd.
SOOOO my question is, where is the best place to get this but more importantly, is the lcd/glass assembly different for the T-Mobile (USA) HTC HD2 than the UK (I think) HTC HD2. I read somewhere that the T-mobile HD2 is slightly taller but I didn't know if that made a difference for the LCD assembly.
cnn.cn has 2 different shells for the T-mobile and other HD2 but not seperate LCD assemblies.
Thanks
Also, the phone seems to respond fine, but sometimes, it seems to freeze...well not freeze but the screen doesn't respond but buttons do. Could this just be the inconsistincy of the glass and the digizter screwing up the response or did I otherwise jack my phone up somehow?
thanks again, this site has been a lifesaver so far as this is my first windows phone.
HTC HD2 Parts
check this site out, it has the Touch-Screen available for order, although it's currently out of stock, ... http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/HD2-Spares.htm
regards
Raziel
Has anyone who needed to replace their phone with a refurb recieved one with a SLCD? I am wondering because of the whole amoled shortage and all. (I prefer SLCD over AMOLED)
Haven't heard of any on the boards here... Oh, congratz on your Nexus For some reason I thought u had a HD2
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Haven't heard of any on the boards here... Oh, congratz on your Nexus For some reason I thought u had a HD2
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LOL, I did, just sold it XD. I will report when i get my refurb soon, just need enough money so they can see that I am good to send to. I really dislike the unaligned "pixels" on AMOLED screens. SuperAMOLED or SuperLCD FTW.
I just swapped mine out with HTC and the replacement has an amoled screen. Did they even start selling the super lcd's?
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LOL, I did, just sold it XD. I will report when i get my refurb soon, just need enough money so they can see that I am good to send to. I really dislike the unaligned "pixels" on AMOLED screens. SuperAMOLED or SuperLCD FTW.
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i'm with you on that one. i also have an AMOLED Nexus One and i HATE the pentile arrangement. It's a joke that the inventors claim that the differences are not visible from certain distance, because i can see them very clearly at normal distance.
I'm just waiting for the Dev Phone to be sold with SLCD and then i'm going to buy one and sell my AMOLED version.
i just got my phone back from htc and it looks like i got a brand new one so how can i tell if i got AMO or SLCD?
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Just look at it to tell the difference. Does it have the pentile display? (oled) Or does the black look washed out? (lcd)
i dunno im so used to my g1 cuz i took forever to send it in, it just looks so good i cant tell, i'll wait until my buddy stops by with his so i can compare
i just got a new phone from htc (my old one i turned in for warranty repairs) and it came with an amoled screen. i was kinda worried about getting the slcd since i did the swap right around the time of the announcement.
I wish they would do that. I don't mind blacks being a tiny bit greyer, so long as everything is symmetrical and easy to look at. It took me like 3 days just to tolerate text or anything on the screen.
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I wish they would do that. I don't mind blacks being a tiny bit greyer, so long as everything is symmetrical and easy to look at. It took me like 3 days just to tolerate text or anything on the screen.
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yep, compared to some old WVGA LCD screens like on the Touch Diamond 2 (hell, even the td1 display was great) or the Motorola Milestone, the Nexus One AMOLED PenTile display looks like utter garbage when showing text.
Reading this fuzzy text for a longer period of time is really bad for the eyes. Nexus One was a superphone in many areas when it was released, but the display was a major step backwards.
I don't know what's the fuzz about SLCD. There are comparison videos online you can look up. SLCD obviously is worse that AMOLED. The brightness, color vibrancy, and visible angle are all worse than AMOLED.
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hbkmog said:
I don't know what's the fuzz about SLCD. There are comparison videos online you can look up. SLCD obviously is worse that AMOLED. The brightness, color vibrancy, and visible angle are all worse than AMOLED.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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X2!!! indeed!!!
Replacement phones are refurbished n1's, and since SLCD on nexus was announced after the consumer version was discontinued and there have been no reports of the dev phone having SLCD, I would say that it is safe to assume there is not going to be any SLCD anytime soon.
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yep, compared to some old WVGA LCD screens like on the Touch Diamond 2 (hell, even the td1 display was great) or the Motorola Milestone, the Nexus One AMOLED PenTile display looks like utter garbage when showing text.
Reading this fuzzy text for a longer period of time is really bad for the eyes. Nexus One was a superphone in many areas when it was released, but the display was a major step backwards.
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Didn't someone mention that the fuzzy text can be corrected by the driver of the display? Currently the text ant-aliasing is suitable for traditional RGB subpixel layout, but it is possible to correct this on a pentile subpixel display. I wonder how probable this is. Some people said that text look sharp on the Galaxy S. Maybe Samsung has corrected this issue with software?
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Replacement phones are refurbished n1's, and since SLCD on nexus was announced after the consumer version was discontinued and there have been no reports of the dev phone having SLCD, I would say that it is safe to assume there is not going to be any SLCD anytime soon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=gUF4dLVdFKc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=gUF4dLVdFKc
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Hmmm, I would rather Have the darkness of AMOLED, and the pixel alignment of an LCD.
Hmmm Monday I will be able to order the refurb, paypal is stupid and makes money transfers to and from the bank 3-5 days long. So I cant have the money on hold yet to do it.
I would also like to know! AMOLED and SLCD which is better?
I am getting my refurb soon hopefully. I will post what I get.
I just got my HD7 today and there is a noticeable amount of space between the part of the back you can remove and the bottom of the back. There is some creaking between the two back plates. The bottom backplate is higher raised than the top back plate. Is it supposed to be like this or did I just get one that was messed up. (FYI, I love my WinPhone7)
It is also on mine.
I've actually had 3 HD7s so far and each one had a different fit on the battery door. The one I have now has the best fit of them all but the first one, the top of the door stood out further than the rest of the door. The top wasn't flush with the side like the middle and bottom.
Quality control is lacking at HTC these days. The first one had signal problems. The second one had dead pixels all over the screen. So far this third one hasn't shown any problems.
I do believe, though, that the HD7 is the most gorgeous of all the WP7 devices yet. To me it's like a refined and polished HD2. It is everything I wanted in the HD2's appearance.
Make sure it is snapped into place properly. It may seem that it has seated properly but it needs a good press down with thumbs and it should snap into place and sit flush.
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I've actually had 3 HD7s so far and each one had a different fit on the battery door. The one I have now has the best fit of them all but the first one, the top of the door stood out further than the rest of the door. The top wasn't flush with the side like the middle and bottom.
Quality control is lacking at HTC these days. The first one had signal problems. The second one had dead pixels all over the screen. So far this third one hasn't shown any problems.
I do believe, though, that the HD7 is the most gorgeous of all the WP7 devices yet. To me it's like a refined and polished HD2. It is everything I wanted in the HD2's appearance.
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With the amount of devices HTC keeps churning out almost every second, its no wonder they are making mistakes in quality assurance on some of them.
I too have the same gap between the top cover and the bottom radio cover, you can see the sim through the gap.
Its odd that the Desire HD got a better unibody design than the HD7 and yet they are both practically siblins.
Would it have also killed them to put and SLCD instead of stantard LCD? I know amoled supplies are low and Samsung cockblocked Super Amoled distribution.
Such a large screen deserves higher quality.
I'm pissed off with HTC but I really really like my HD7 with WinPhone 7. Zune is fecking awesome.
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With the amount of devices HTC keeps churning out almost every second, its no wonder they are making mistakes in quality assurance on some of them.
I too have the same gap between the top cover and the bottom radio cover, you can see the sim through the gap.
Its odd that the Desire HD got a better unibody design than the HD7 and yet they are both practically siblins.
Would it have also killed them to put and SLCD instead of stantard LCD? I know amoled supplies are low and Samsung cockblocked Super Amoled distribution.
Such a large screen deserves higher quality.
I'm pissed off with HTC but I really really like my HD7 with WinPhone 7. Zune is fecking awesome.
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I agree. I expected a bit more hardware wise also. But I look at it like a refined and polished HD2. It looks exactly like what I've wanted my HD2 to look like. I was even envious of the Evo when I saw it. But this HD7 is even better looking than the Evo. That sweet black-chrome surround and those nice silver sound producing grills. The use of soft buttons, getting away from the hard buttons of the HD2. The super clean rear side and the even-better-looking-than-the-Evo kickstand.
As long as I look at the HD7 as an HD2.2, I'm content. WP7 is the real glory of this device. Such a sweet mobile OS.
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I agree. I expected a bit more hardware wise also. But I look at it like a refined and polished HD2. It looks exactly like what I've wanted my HD2 to look like. I was even envious of the Evo when I saw it. But this HD7 is even better looking than the Evo. That sweet black-chrome surround and those nice silver sound producing grills. The use of soft buttons, getting away from the hard buttons of the HD2. The super clean rear side and the even-better-looking-than-the-Evo kickstand.
As long as I look at the HD7 as an HD2.2, I'm content. WP7 is the real glory of this device. Such a sweet mobile OS.
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I've never had a HD2 so i cant comment much on your experience, but I agree that the HD7 looks beautiful and well designed, i really like the weight and the black chrome surround. I could have done without the grills, but I'm getting used to them.
What I would have like are that materials used be more akin to the Desire HD, less plastic more metal for the main enclosure, then plastic elements where its needed. Alas, I'm sure there will be a WP7 htc HD8 phone like that in a few months with built in 32GB storage, then we HD7 owners will be crying.
I'm quite content, i just need WP7 to be updated with some fundamental features missed at launch to appease the power user in me.
I just got it yesterday so I took it back to t-mobile today and they exchanged it for me. It was such a hard choice whether to get this or the mytouch 4g.
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I just got it yesterday so I took it back to t-mobile today and they exchanged it for me. It was such a hard choice whether to get this or the mytouch 4g.
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I had the MyTouch 4G and had data problems. Turns out it (Android) uses a separate data service than WinMo and mine was WinMo. But I hated the plasticy look of the front button panel and the protrusion on the USB and HP connectors. It ruined the aesthetics. I wished I had gotten the G2 instead. But I returned the MyTouch and later got another HD7, for which I am glad.
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I've actually had 3 HD7s so far and each one had a different fit on the battery door. The one I have now has the best fit of them all but the first one, the top of the door stood out further than the rest of the door. The top wasn't flush with the side like the middle and bottom.
Quality control is lacking at HTC these days. The first one had signal problems. The second one had dead pixels all over the screen. So far this third one hasn't shown any problems.
I do believe, though, that the HD7 is the most gorgeous of all the WP7 devices yet. To me it's like a refined and polished HD2. It is everything I wanted in the HD2's appearance.
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I would have much rather had the hd2's metal battery cover over this one, but overall I am pleased with the design.
My signal seems a little worse, but I'm not sure if its a defect or just the way it is. Trying to give microsoft some time to see if an update might be coming for the radio.
As far as QC for this device, my back is flush, but if you play with the battery cover, you can make a small gap to see the sim.
Does the US T-Mobile version have a S-LCD screen or a TFT? Every review has a different answer it's driving me crazy! I cant tell I have a TFT on my G2 and the HD7 screen looks better but it might just be because its 4.3".
Honestly I would tweet this one @HTC on twitter and trend #wp7 to put some pressure on them to answer.
The best way to get the most accurate answer would be to tweet @htc the question and trend #wp7 in the same tweet so they actually answer it in this lifetime.
It is a normal TFT, not a S-LCD.
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It is a normal TFT, not a S-LCD.
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well thats a bummer
Halabeaster54 said:
Does the US T-Mobile version have a S-LCD screen or a TFT? Every review has a different answer it's driving me crazy! I cant tell I have a TFT on my G2 and the HD7 screen looks better but it might just be because its 4.3".
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From what I can see and almost every review and or tech specs I have seen it is a Super LCD screen.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2636&c=htc_hd7_16gb
They are nonsense tech specs that have never been been given out by HTC. Look at a direct comparison between an SLCD screen liek hte HTC Mozrt against the HTC 7, and you'll notice the HD7's is far much inferior. That, and it appears to give the same colour reproduction as the HD2.
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They are nonsense tech specs that have never been been given out by HTC. Look at a direct comparison between an SLCD screen liek hte HTC Mozrt against the HTC 7, and you'll notice the HD7's is far much inferior. That, and it appears to give the same colour reproduction as the HD2.
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http://www.totech.net/htc-hd7-technical-specifications
http://mobile.softpedia.com/phones/HTC/HTC-HD7.shtml
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/t-mobile-htc-hd7-review
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-HD7-Review_id2582
http://www.tbnews.info/677/hd7-top-of-the-range-windows-mobile-7-with-s-lcd/
http://www.techhail.com/mobiles/htc-hd7-vs-htc-7-surround-vs-htc-7-mozart-vs-htc-7-trophy/9369
http://otakugadgets.com/cell-phones/htc-ditches-amoled-good-phones-moves-s-lcd/
These are just some of the links that do state it does have a SLCD. Even if it had just a TFT LCD I still would love the device. Coming from a Vibrant on T-Mobile I noticed that with the SAMOLED displays that the colors are over saturated and not a true representation (that is my opinion though). It also looks like as Super TFT screens are also knows as SLCD screens according to the last article i posted
Merry Christmas
Eric
And none of those articles state any official HTC source >.< Its also worth noting that ordiniary LCD's also don't give accruate colour reproduction, instead giving dull, undersaturated, cold feeling colours. Depends whether you prefer vibrancy or not - most people prefer more vibrancy
OS change
hi guys any of you have shifted from a galaxyS to an hd7? Was it worth it.. as considering there are few messenger apps in the market? im thinkin of shifting from "fragmented android" to WP7. Just the thing that worries me is i could just find one messenger app out there.. namely FIM. I really love the Metro UI
Moreover GSMarena seems to be complaining about the sensitivity of the screen. Is it true that its not sensitive..also the blurry text issue.. If someone could please shed some light on this.. Thanks
I'm not having any issues w screen sensitivity. also, my screen is bright, clear and doesnt suffer from some of the issues from some reviews. however, the display sets i used all had poor screens and fade when viewed from an angle.
bought mine in singapore and the screen is better than my hd2 screen.
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I'm not having any issues w screen sensitivity. also, my screen is bright, clear and doesnt suffer from some of the issues from some reviews. however, the display sets i used all had poor screens and fade when viewed from an angle.
bought mine in singapore and the screen is better than my hd2 screen.
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Thanks for the tip. I didnt get this part though."the display sets i used all had poor screens" yu mean had replaced your HD7 a couple of times till you got one with the right screen?