I know it's purely cosmetics, but cosmetically speaking, if there was a version of compiz that could run on Android with all the settings... I'm thinking smooth rotating desktop cube with 4 virtual desktops vs the current 3-screen swipy desktop... or window animations, etc... with the same silky smooth animation that you get from compiz in ubuntu.... Just imagining this on Android... all the iPhone users jaws would drop open at the sight of a smooth spinning cube desktop and windows that burst into flames, etc.
So my question to the devs... I am not a developer... Is this dream of mine of a Android-Compiz app at all possible?
It's possible, but I've heard that there is NO hardware acceleration on the G1 at the moment. Everythings being rendered with software.
Also, Compiz wouldn't be worth the battery life. Yes, it's sexy, but remember that this is a phone. I wouldn't trade what little battery life we already have for that.
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It's possible, but I've heard that there is NO hardware acceleration on the G1 at the moment. Everythings being rendered with software.
Also, Compiz wouldn't be worth the battery life. Yes, it's sexy, but remember that this is a phone. I wouldn't trade what little battery life we already have for that.
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Umm you're wrong about hardware acceleration, it certainly does have it, just take a look at the demo app qualcomm made to show off the chipset. That said, it's a PHONE. If you can manage to get all the compiz effects working smoothly on a 528MHz single core computer with 192MB of RAM and a really crappy onboard graphics chip then sure, it'll work(i.e. no, this phone has nowhere near the processing power needed to have compiz working, hell it doesn't even have full OpenGL, it's OpenGL ES)
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Umm you're wrong about hardware acceleration, it certainly does have it, just take a look at the demo app qualcomm made to show off the chipset.
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480 x 320 screen resolution helps with the prcoessing needs... and compiz is highly configurable... I'll bet if the app (or one inspired by compiz) could be made to run on Android, it would be a matter of adjusting the right modest settings...
People don't buy iPhones for the battery life, and they don't even buy iPhones for the phone. The phone is like the cherry on top. They buy iPhones for the pure eye candy bliss.
All I'm saying is... don't under estimate the value of eye candy in the consumer market, and if Android had a compiz like app it would kill the iPhone on eye candy.
I want windows transitions to explode into flames, or fade in and out, or spin out of sight (similar to the page 1/page 2 transition for the 'toggle settings' app)... I want the desktop to be a rotating cube with 4 to 6 virtual desktops that spins as fast as I can slide my finger across the screen and eventually come to a smooth stop.
Just saying... it would kill the iPhone. Kill it. And it would sell a lot of G1s.
Doesn't compiz require x-windows to work?
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Doesn't compiz require x-windows to work?
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Exactly, I had the same question.
What is the android window environment? It's not an x-windows, is it?
Good question, I don't know... but even so, seems like there could be a way to do it.
Like the existing swipey desktop... if it could be made into a revolving cube with 4 sides. And then to add widgets to any of the 4 virtual desktops (in the same way that we have 3 virtual desktops now)
I ask this all from a very humble, non-developer position... Just wanted to plant the seed in case there were any developers who thought it might be possible.
Android runs on the framebuffer -- there is no X.
The hardware acceleration for graphics is being used (videos wouldn't play without it, for instance). Comparatively, it's probably something like an old TNT graphics card (but with hardware acceleration for h264 and such).
There's a tiny chance in hell it could pull off very basic compiz features... but it would hose the system... (and require that you run X -- which would require you installing your own software base separate from and without Android).
No one's going to put in the effort for methinks, especially when it would so cripple the phone.
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Android runs on the framebuffer -- there is no X.
The hardware acceleration for graphics is being used (videos wouldn't play without it, for instance). Comparatively, it's probably something like an old TNT graphics card (but with hardware acceleration for h264 and such).
There's a tiny chance in hell it could pull off very basic compiz features... but it would hose the system... (and require that you run X -- which would require you installing your own software base separate from and without Android).
No one's going to put in the effort for methinks, especially when it would so cripple the phone.
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My thoughts exactly. Another thing I thought of is that the vast majority of compiz effects have to do with windows and the G1 doesn't really have separate windows so I don't see how it would work. Desktop Cube might be possible and maybe some fancier animation for bringing up programs but aside from that, I don't even see what compiz effects would be applicable.
I think Cube Desktop (with rotation speed determined by how fast your finger slides across the screen) and windows transitions (burn, spin, flip, fade, slide etc) would be a great place to start!
Well since android is OPEN SOURCE we could create a compiz for android using the window management libraries that we will also need to create and build this ontop of cyanogenmod
The cube animation is offered in rogros82's home replacement on the market called GDE, I'M CURRENTLY USING IT, the best home replacement app to date!
Have to agree there aren't many of the compiz effects that would apply to the Android world. Cube/Sphere desktop & window animations are really about it. As far as that goes GDE (launcher replacement) does most of what makes sense to adopt from compiz. I have been using it for about a week & it uses 2% battery on average. The application dock it comes with is nice too.
If someone wanted to look into making their own compiz-like effects, You could start by digging around OMS code to see how they got cube and all working. Like I said though most of it has been done already, and is just a few bucks on the market.
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The cube animation is offered in rogros82's home replacement on the market called GDE, I'M CURRENTLY USING IT, the best home replacement app to date!
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You beat me to it. GDE is a great app though. Being able to switch themes easily is also a nice feature.
GDE running now looks great.!
eats my battery i think but nice 2 have
Well I know the Samsung Behold 2 has an inside cube animation effect with it's home/launcher but I wouldn't know how to pull it from the SB2 and port it to the Dream.
That's just an idea for the devs...
GO Launcher EX
GO Launcher EX has the cube animations built in it's effects for home screen and app drawer.. It works well
So does ADW EX.
Great way to bring a thread back from the grave...
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I know it's purely cosmetics, but cosmetically speaking, if there was a version of compiz that could run on Android with all the settings... I'm thinking smooth rotating desktop cube with 4 virtual desktops vs the current 3-screen swipy desktop... or window animations, etc... with the same silky smooth animation that you get from compiz in ubuntu.... Just imagining this on Android... all the iPhone users jaws would drop open at the sight of a smooth spinning cube desktop and windows that burst into flames, etc.
So my question to the devs... I am not a developer... Is this dream of mine of a Android-Compiz app at all possible?
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The ZTE Avid N9120 has this cube. As you add apps, the cube expands the total number of sides it has .
Metropcs offers this phone via best buy and other sources.. worth every penny.
You can extract the cube to a desktop and add it to every phone on earth.
How Awesome Would This Be?!
Compiz on the Galaxy Note 3 or 4 and the Galaxy Edge!? With some special effects that run down the edge of the Edge. That would be fantastic! I personally love cosmetic stuff. Themes, status bar mods from xuimod, or Wanam Exposed. Now if someone could rebuild compiz with burn and cube and wave and wobbly windows! Let me just include one more exclamation point to express my enthusiasm!
This article describes the new UI for Android 3.0 Honeycomb. Looking forward to see this work on the G-Tablet.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-3-0-honeycomb-full-preview-guide-user-features-20110130/
From the article:"...Android 3.0 claims to be refining such things as multitasking, home screen customization, widgets, and notifications. All of these items in Honeycomb have been looked at, poured over, and modified – integrated and expanded into this new 3D experience, one that will seem at first to be brand new, but will quickly feel familiar, even when you’ve got your fingers on features that are completely new. Apps written for earlier platforms should translate perfectly well to this new environment, and new apps will have the opportunity to make use of a new set of UI objects, new media capabilities, and more powerful graphics...."
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Good read. Developer half of the article defintely points out some nice new features. The wait for release is killing me! Lol
That's gonna be awesome on the gtab!
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Pew pew is a great game for xoom. Very addicting.
#2 costs like 2$. I'm going to download it and ill let you guys know how it is on the xoom!
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First thoughts, nice to support the dev.
All the original game modes are still there, adds campaign, and 3 new challenge modes. Nice large update, but that's what it is... an update.
I reccomend it! I know ill be playing it for hours tomorrow haha.
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he could have used a better naming scheme, PewPew Lite/Free and PewPew rather than the one and two monikers. Still, one of the absolute best games out for android and I have actually grown to like it even better than geometry wars. I have also noticed some graphical touches not present in the original pewpew like the 3d oscilatting background in certain menus. Also much more music, I like the remix of the main theme. The campaign is imaginative and a fresh break from the challenge modes. Speaking of which, the new ones are pretty aweseme like "highway" for example, a massive circle of rotating enemys and you have to play in traffic to chase after a ball. This is my favorite game for android. No question. Especially for the Xoom!
I would love to see something like this for the thunderbolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915472&page=6
I am not a coder, or developer, but I am more than comfortable around computers and handy with just about any graphics applications etc.
Are there any developers that would be willing to develop this with me? I am willing to do grunt work, resize or fix however many images are required etc.
chingy is working on this for the storm rom
Awesome!
It would be nice however to have something outside of a rom to do this. I look to roms for function, and eye candy is just a bonus, so to be able to do something like this with any rom would be a beautiful thing.
I want to make an app plan and basic desing to know what should i code
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