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Wi-Fi and WPA secured wireless networks.

Hello to all diamond people,
We all know, there is huge issue with this great phone about Wi-Fi connections. While Wi-Fi is one of the reasons people choosed touch diamond, what is their disapointment when they find out wi-fi doesn't work as it should.
I am talking about problem I am experiencing by myself - I am unable to connect to my home WPA secured and encrypted network. If I turn the security off on my router and wireless network becomes open, there is no problem at all.
But who wants unsecured, open wireless network at home, so all the neighbours can download whatever they want through your network?
Nobody.
During my research throughout forums I have come accross many people, experiencing same problem, but was not able to find the solution to the problem, or what is causing it.
My aim is to gather as many information as possible to help to fix this problem, so everyone could use wi-fi on their own home WPA secured wireless network.
Any ideas?

What is your ROM and radio versions? I've no problem connecting to my WPA enabled network. Which WPA option did you choose? It must match the same WPA option on your router. There are WPA, WPA-PSK, WPA2, and WPA2-PSK, then there are also TKIP and AES to choose from. Try setting both Diamond and router to use WPA-PSK (TKIP) first, this should have the highest compatibility with other WPA supported devices on your network. And make sure you use a strong passphrase, you can use a WPA key generator.

Hey,
both router and HTC are set to WPA -PSK under TKIP encryption. I use my own network key.
The thing is, in wireless lan manager i can see htc does connect, but only for about a second, then it starts reconnecting all over again.
Sometimes it does connect and works for few minutes and sometimes it does connect to router, but not to the internet. It drives me absolutely mad.
I tried Advanced Config -> Network -> WPA authentication - enabled/disabled, but still experiencing problems.
I have heard there used to be issues with ROMs provided by the network operators, but that is not my case.
ROM: DIB Diamond v 1.33
RADIO: 1.00.25.05

WPA secured
Hey,
If You want to use WPA secured wireless networks with Diamond go to Settings-Wireless LAN-Power Mode and there set Power Save Mode to Best Performance. It works
Sorry for my English...

6sauer said:
Hey,
both router and HTC are set to WPA -PSK under TKIP encryption. I use my own network key.
The thing is, in wireless lan manager i can see htc does connect, but only for about a second, then it starts reconnecting all over again.
Sometimes it does connect and works for few minutes and sometimes it does connect to router, but not to the internet. It drives me absolutely mad.
I tried Advanced Config -> Network -> WPA authentication - enabled/disabled, but still experiencing problems.
I have heard there used to be issues with ROMs provided by the network operators, but that is not my case.
ROM: DIB Diamond v 1.33
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
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I guess it's probably not your ROM, since the DIB Diamond v1.33 is based on the newer 2.03 ROM. I was wondering, do other devices on your network have the same issue or it's only the Diamond? Connection dropping can be many reasons, and one of them is the router itself.
Reddish said:
Hey,
If You want to use WPA secured wireless networks with Diamond go to Settings-Wireless LAN-Power Mode and there set Power Save Mode to Best Performance. It works
Sorry for my English...
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I don't have any problem even in Power Save mode.

Somewhere I have come accross the information some routers (particullary Belkins) do have problem with windows mobile devices.
Today I wrote to Belkin Support, thay should reply in 72 hours mad, however we may know more.
Since I am using unsecured wireless network now, at least I have activated the MAC addresses lock - only allowed MAC addresses can connect to router now. What do you think, how secure is that? There is no encryption now, could someone see the sommunication between me and the router?

Which Belkin router are you using? Check if there is a firmware update, you may want to try that.
MAC address filtering should be ok for now, it can stop the majority of people who try to use your network, it will take someone with a bit more networking knowledge to gain access to your network, but most people don't have that knowledge.
Yes, people can capture any unencrypted packets and read them. But if you're connecting to a secure website through HTTPS or any other secure protocols, the packets are still unreadable. For example, in the browser, if it's written https instead of http on the address bar, those sites are secure. Most regular websites are not secure though.

I was having a similar problem on my Touch Pro a while back. My router is also set to WPA-PSK/TKIP. Although you said you tried it, the solution for me was indeed to go into Advanced Config > Network > WPA Authentication > Disabled. I then removed all previous wifi settings and then added them again, and it connected without a problem.
It could be that there's something else preventing your connection, but from what I can tell you should at least have that setting disabled.

6sauer said:
Somewhere I have come accross the information some routers (particullary Belkins) do have problem with windows mobile devices.
Today I wrote to Belkin Support, thay should reply in 72 hours mad, however we may know more.
Since I am using unsecured wireless network now, at least I have activated the MAC addresses lock - only allowed MAC addresses can connect to router now. What do you think, how secure is that? There is no encryption now, could someone see the sommunication between me and the router?
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its pretty secure, as you cant guess the password, you would have to get in and add your device to the list (which you would need the username and password for)

[Q] Rooted Nook on BN 1.1 Wifi Issues

Ok, running a rooted (with Autonooter 3.0) and BN ver 1.1.
For some reason, the Nook keeps dropping the wifi connection. I have several other devices, phones, computers, and none of them are dropping the connection. It just tells me obtaining IP and then stops, with connection unsuccessful. No other problems at all, it works great, when it works! Any help is appreciated.

Wrong forum. Post in the General forum next time. Have you searched? Your question may have been asked / answered before. Just checking.

I'd also like to know the answer to this.
My NC works with my wifi at home perfectly, but simply cannot connect to the wifi at my office. Another employee here has an ipad that connects to our wifi just fine...

Tdogg,
I had exact same situation. Nook Color 1.1, autonooter 3.0 and would drop about 5 minutes into using the wifi. Had to restart the wifi all the time so was annoying.
Was hard to track down but I read another forum that the NC wifi does not like WPA/WPA2 AES. I checked my router and I have WPA/WPA2 TKIP and AES set for some reason (this was default on the d-link router). I then changed the setting to TKIP and I don't get any dropouts now.
Hoping this works for you so see how you go.

Zhousibo said:
Tdogg,
I had exact same situation. Nook Color 1.1, autonooter 3.0 and would drop about 5 minutes into using the wifi. Had to restart the wifi all the time so was annoying.
Was hard to track down but I read another forum that the NC wifi does not like WPA/WPA2 AES. I checked my router and I have WPA/WPA2 TKIP and AES set for some reason (this was default on the d-link router). I then changed the setting to TKIP and I don't get any dropouts now.
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Are you sure? According to this note, changing from TKIP to AES fixed it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11137046&postcount=15

Rechecked my settings and I have set to TKIP and haven't had a drop since. I got the TKIP tip from here which made me try it:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101227165613AAl4TFk
For OP, basically try in the router settings either and see how it goes.

I have a router running Tomato, set to WPA/WPA2 Personal, TKIP. Autonooted B&N 1.1.0.
The wi-fi connection is stable as long as the screen is on. After some number of minutes with the screen off, when I unlock it the wi-fi shows as "unsuccessful" and it does not show my router (or any network at all) in the network list anymore. I end up having to toggle off and on in order to get back on.

From what I have gathered it does vary from router to router, but there are some consistencies to think about.
1) WEP seems to be the best option. I was on TKIP before and went strait to WEP and have had no issues since. I tried AES but some devices wouldn't connect with AES for some reason.
2) A mixed b/g or similar wireless signal from the router seems to cause some conflicts with the NC. If you can switch it to only broadcast G then that might work.

[Q] Way to make wifi connect automatically?

I'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but after my phone has been on standby, the wifi disconnects. I assume this is normal, battery-saving behavior. The problem is when I wake the phone up, it's hit-or-miss in that it doesn't connect back up all the time. Sometimes, it'll connect without user intervention. Most of the time though, I'll need to pull down the menu and select the "wireless networks found" notication to bring up wifi settings (connects as soon as the settings comes up). This has not happened with any other android phone I've owned... just the Bionic.
I'm still running the stock ROM, though rooted. I'm considering putting DroidTheory's deblurred on, but the phone actually behaves pretty well, so I haven't yet.
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Go into wifi settings and click the menu button and advanced settings. I would change your wifi settings so that wifi never sleeps. You will actually save more battery life being on wifi then having your cellular radio on. Just turn off wifi if you leave your house or place where you use a wifi connection.

Try "Y5"
It'll turn your wifi off when you have no remembered wifi in the area. I believe it works by cell site recognition.
HINT: When you are configuring a new protected/secured wifi turn Y5 off until you have the passkey typed in to make sure the phone leaves wifi turned on enough time for you to enter the key.

skullvet said:
Go into wifi settings and click the menu button and advanced settings. I would change your wifi settings so that wifi never sleeps. You will actually save more battery life being on wifi then having your cellular radio on. Just turn off wifi if you leave your house or place where you use a wifi connection.
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^This - wifi sleep policy.
The problem with this phone is that the radio stays on when on wifi. If you really want to save battery, flip on airplane mode THEN wifi.
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skullvet said:
Go into wifi settings and click the menu button and advanced settings. I would change your wifi settings so that wifi never sleeps. You will actually save more battery life being on wifi then having your cellular radio on. Just turn off wifi if you leave your house or place where you use a wifi connection.
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I have tried this and, it's still hit and miss connecting to WiFi. The icon is in the notification bar (gray color sometimes blue) but, it won't connect sometimes.

Does every Bionic have sucky WiFi? It even disconnects while I'm browsing!

tooter1 said:
Does every Bionic have sucky WiFi? It even disconnects while I'm browsing!
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Not every one. Mine never disconnects during normal ise and reconnects automatically on wake up.as far as i know I'm using default settings

I think, I may have fixed my problem. I'll post tomorrow what I did to get it working.
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I tried everything here and non of it worked, plus making sure "USE PROXY SERVER" was unchecked and, it still didn't work.
So I got to thinking about what type encryption I was using on my router. I knew I was using "WPA" just didn't know which one.
Opened router settings and, it was set to "WPA2 Personal" set it to "WPA Personal" with same password and, my WiFi has been working ever since I did this.
Hope it stays this way!
I guess this phone wasn't meant to connect to WPA2 Personal connections. Can someone confirm this to be true?
I hope this helps someone out.....

I have 3 Apple routers with WPA2 and the Bionic works fine with them. Also on a Netgear high-end router with WPA2.
Geek stuff coming:
If WPA is what works, that's great. WPA2 is preferable, but only because there is a weird and esoteric possibility of capturing a WPA passcode using the TKIP encryption used by WPA (WPA2 uses AES encryption, or, technically, CCMP). However, if you go into the router's settings and change the WPA group key timeout (or it may be called WPA group rekey interval) to faster than 11 minutes, that will prevent that exploit from happening. (Changing to WPA with AES as opposed to TKIP would also be fine, if the router supports it. However, that may have been what was causing your issue with WPA2, so...)
(If you are interested in reading a technical article about the TKIP exploit, it's here: http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/11/wpa-cracked.ars )

doogald said:
I have 3 Apple routers with WPA2 and the Bionic works fine with them. Also on a Netgear high-end router with WPA2.
Geek stuff coming:
If WPA is what works, that's great. WPA2 is preferable, but only because there is a weird and esoteric possibility of capturing a WPA passcode using the TKIP encryption used by WPA (WPA2 uses AES encryption, or, technically, CCMP). However, if you go into the router's settings and change the WPA group key timeout (or it may be called WPA group rekey interval) to faster than 11 minutes, that will prevent that exploit from happening. (Changing to WPA with AES as opposed to TKIP would also be fine, if the router supports it. However, that may have been what was causing your issue with WPA2, so...)
(If you are interested in reading a technical article about the TKIP exploit, it's here: http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/11/wpa-cracked.ars )
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Thanks for the article.
UPDATE:
After further investigating the settings on my Linksys WRT160n w/DD-WRT firmware. I saw that it has an option to enable TKIP+AES and that was selected.
So I changed it to WPA2 Personal with just AES selected, whola it has worked like this too.
I'm glad to have it working with the better encryption settings.

tooter1 said:
After further investigating the settings on my Linksys WRT160n w/DD-WRT firmware. I saw that it has an option to enable TKIP+AES and that was selected.
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This must be an issue with Android. My Eris would have problems connecting to routers using TKIP+AES, but I figured that this would have been fixed two years later. It's weird that it's not.
Thanks for posting the update. Now at least if somebody else reports a similar issue we can have them check this setting.

Flapjack
Here's a couple things to try that I'm doing and I've had no problems since Day 1 with my Bionic.
If you're using WPA2 use the PSK variant.
Download and install the free WiFi Analyzer from Google market. It's great when dealing with WiFi networks in general-not just your own.
Next look for the Market App 'WiFi Connecter Library' by farproc (it's a helper app-not a stand alone program)and install it. It adds some nice features regarding saving WiFi settings and automatically reconnecting. Since using those I always have Windows-like options for remembering and auto-reconnecting to Access points.

Thanks for all the awesome replies! I had forgotten to enable notifications for the thread, so I didn't even realize anyone replied.
skullvet said:
Go into wifi settings and click the menu button and advanced settings. I would change your wifi settings so that wifi never sleeps. You will actually save more battery life being on wifi then having your cellular radio on. Just turn off wifi if you leave your house or place where you use a wifi connection.
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I didn't even realize there was an advanced menu. I'm trying this first, so hopefully it does the trick (or at least makes it a little more tolerable).
doogald said:
If WPA is what works, that's great. WPA2 is preferable, but only because there is a weird and esoteric possibility of capturing a WPA passcode using the TKIP encryption used by WPA (WPA2 uses AES encryption, or, technically, CCMP). However, if you go into the router's settings and change the WPA group key timeout (or it may be called WPA group rekey interval) to faster than 11 minutes, that will prevent that exploit from happening. (Changing to WPA with AES as opposed to TKIP would also be fine, if the router supports it. However, that may have been what was causing your issue with WPA2, so...)
(If you are interested in reading a technical article about the TKIP exploit, it's here: http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/11/wpa-cracked.ars )
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This is great summation of the TKIP exploit. You'd be amazed how many people have no idea how this works. Another thing to point out is that WPA is subject to man-in-the-middle attacks. You can effectively prevent against this by making your WPA passphrase more complex. Personally, I use a short sentence with plenty of special characters.
Here's a good read on MITM attacks in general:
http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi-security2.html
You can test your access point security by using the latest bootable Backtrack distro and any number of guides online.
BleedingEdj said:
Flapjack
Here's a couple things to try that I'm doing and I've had no problems since Day 1 with my Bionic.
If you're using WPA2 use the PSK variant.
Download and install the free WiFi Analyzer from Google market. It's great when dealing with WiFi networks in general-not just your own.
Next look for the Market App 'WiFi Connecter Library' by farproc (it's a helper app-not a stand alone program)and install it. It adds some nice features regarding saving WiFi settings and automatically reconnecting. Since using those I always have Windows-like options for remembering and auto-reconnecting to Access points.
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I'm using WPA2-PSK with AES encryption. I'll definitely look into those apps, though. It would be nice to have wifi turn off when there are no recognized hotspots in the area, as someone mentioned on page one.

Thanks for all of the great tips. Working better than ever!

Ever since changing the sleep setting under "advanced", I've had absolutely no problems. Battery life is much better, too. Thanks!!!

Y5 is the one of the best tips here..
It will turn your wifi off when you aren't in a known area.

[DROID3] Connec to wifi but no pages load etc (no connection) HELP!!!

I can connect to my home wifi fine, good signal and everything, but the thing is when I go to say, load a webpage, it just won't load. No matter how long you leave it.
But when I connect to a mobile hotspot Wifi from my other phone it works fine.
Could it be something to do with my router?
Thanks to anyone that try to help

What router is it?
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If you have a terminal emulator on your phone, you can try to "ping" the router (most likely 192.168.something.1..)
"ping 192.168.1.1" or whatever address the router has...
This is the same address that you'd type in a browser on your PC to configure access the router's config..
And try to ping something on the Internet such as one of Google's DNS server (ping 8.8.8.8)
A few more details might help us help you:
Router brand and model?
Encryption type used (None, WEP, WPA, WPA2..)? ..WPA2 is sometimes downright broken on some router models..
Does your wireless Internet router work for another wireless device?
Does your Internet work from a wired computer on the same router?

Is the router configured for wireless g,n, or mixed? You might need to play with the router configs.
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MrObvious said:
What router is it?
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It's a NETGEAR Wireless N Router - WNR2000.
Security: WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES]
Channel: Auto
All my other devices that I have used the wifi with have worked fine.
This is really annoying, I just can't think of what the problem is..

How many devices are connected to the router at any given time? Try disconnecting another device from wifi and see if that works.
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Yeah when I disconnected my laptop and then connected my DROID3 it worked fine.
What is the solution to allow it for the DROID3 to work?

Your router only allows for a certain amount of connections. You will either have to turn wifi off of one of the devices or get another router.... simple solution would be to turn off wifi one of the devices when you are not using it.
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vit3l said:
It's a NETGEAR Wireless N Router - WNR2000.
Security: WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES]
Channel: Auto
All my other devices that I have used the wifi with have worked fine.
This is really annoying, I just can't think of what the problem is..
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Try changing the security to WPA2 with AES only - I've seen problems with Android phones in the past when both TKIP with WPA and AES with WPA2 are enabled. If you have any old devices that don't use WPA2 (unlikely), then try WPA with TKIP only. See if that fixes it.
If not, and it's a device limit issue, check the DHCP settings on the router to see what the address range is. If it is set to something like 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.xx (whatever number xx is), try extending the range to something larger (though no larger than 254, obviously) and see if that helps.

I tried it a second time and a only got connections every minute or something and it wouldn't last for very long :\
It's not a device limit issue because I have had 2+ devices connected to the wireless before.

I second switching to AES. It is more secure anyway.
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^ tried that aswell and it didn't work

Maybe try setting a static IP?
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vit3l said:
^ tried that aswell and it didn't work
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Turn off all security on the router and try again as a test.also you might need to reset your wifi connections on your phone. Try wifi fixer
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Have you tried resetting the router? Power it down and then re apply the power. I know that it makes no sense that this should work, but it has fixed the problem twice on my D3.

My Razr i makes WiFi drop/crash

Hi folks !
Recently I started to experience some troubles using my WiFis connections. The problem is simple, the connection drops, the WiFi network disappears from all the devices, and a few seconds later it comes back.
At first I thought it was a problem with the router of my work. But then I started to experience the same things at home. Then I decided to test the WiFi without connecting my Razr i to it and it worked like a charm. Now, as soon as I connect my Razr i to a WiFi, it crashes a few seconds/minutes later and keep doing it until I disconnect my phone from the WiFi.
Did someone experience the same thing ? Have you any idea for solving the problem ?
Thanks anyway.
PS : I only use 5Ghz WiFis. I'll try with 2.4 soon but the 5Ghz compatibility was one of the reasons why I bought this phone...

We have also issues with our WLAN at home, which is sometimes (but not always) very unstable in connection with a Samsung 5 Laptop (regular reboots shortly after activating the laptop Wifi).
I did not experience this problem yet with my Razr i, but I will keep it in mind over the next days (we have a complex setup with several computers, phones and Android entities based around a Fritzbox 7390, so error identification and validation takes very long and is not finished yet).
BTW - if you look for help here, please specify your WLAN router in detail as well as your provider and general IT-setup.

Tevac said:
We have also issues with our WLAN at home, which is sometimes (but not always) very unstable in connection with a Samsung 5 Laptop (regular reboots shortly after activating the laptop Wifi).
I did not experience this problem yet with my Razr i, but I will keep it in mind over the next days (we have a complex setup with several computers, phones and Android entities based around a Fritzbox 7390, so error identification and validation takes very long and is not finished yet).
BTW - if you look for help here, please specify your WLAN router in detail as well as your provider and general IT-setup.
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Well ! Thanks for the reply.
My router that provides the two WiFis is a Cisco Linksys WRT61N.
My setup is kinda complex but works well. Got another router provided by my ISP, which is the DHCP server. This router is connected to a port of the WRT61N switch. Not to the internet port. Every connection that enters in the ISP router goes to the Linksys, and then is NATed by it. I don't think those informations are very relevant but anyway here they are. That's a complex setup but it works well (needed to do that because I have cable connection, and the cable modem/router have very limited configuration).
The devices that use my two WiFi are :
2.4Ghz : My Razr i right now.
5Ghz : Two iPads, and the HTC 8X of my girlfriend.
I made some other tests, one the Razr i there is an option for switching on or off a kind of network frequency. So instead of both enabled, I enabled only the 2.4Ghz WiFi frequency and connected my phone to my 2.4Ghz WiFi. No problems detected. Stable connection. Right now I'm at work, and everything works well in 2.4Ghz. So there is clearly a problem with the 5Ghz frequency on my Razr i.
Anyway, during those tests, I discovered something very interesting. My battery life had a huge improvement with the desactivation of the 5Ghz WiFi frequency.

Thanks for the details - especially on the 2.4/5 GHz topic.
I am also at work right now, but will check it at home and keep you posted.

WPA2
I had the same problem, I think it was triggered everytime the phone went to "sleep". It was changing the security encryption that fixed it for me. I can't remember what i had on the router as default, and I'm not at home right now to check what I'm running, but I believe it's WPA2. After the change, I had no trouble whatsoever. Hope this helps, good luck!
EDIT: nevermind what i said, i just logged into my router and remembered it wasnt the encryption type settings, but rather the wifi standard used, it used to be 802.11 b+n+g, and now i got it sitting at 802.11 b+g, which equals to 2.4 GHz. Meaning the razr has apparently a problem with the 5 GHz spectrum..

I too have a RAZRi which is connected by wi-fi at home to a Fritz!Box 7390. I noticed that when the RAZRi went into sleep mode with wi-fi connected (keep wi-fi on setting) it would have lost any internet connection on waking, requiring a disconnection/reconnection to reset. More annoyingly there was also a loss of connection (IP address) at laptops also connected to the router by w-fi on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz connections, which needed a reboot of either the PC or the router to re-establish a connection. The router GUI would show them all as remaining connected.
By using the manual setting on the router to restrict 2.4GHz connections to b+g (not b+g+n), it looks so far as though both problems are avoided, and the RAZRi can be set to use either the available 2.4GHz or 5GHz (a+n) connection on the Fritz! successfully without problems. EDIT big problem is though that disabling "n" on 2.4GHz seems to cause wi-fi throughputs to crash by more than 50% on both frequencies (which for me negates the benefit of having VDSL) - they recover if I re-enable, but then the lockups start if the phone is connected. A hobsons choice.
Thanks guys.