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Just brought the extended battery from Verizon. Using the stock charger I let it charge over night and im still stuck at 30% . So anyone know what the deal is? Or have similar problems?
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I would use it it until 0%/power off then try recharging it again to see what happens. It may just be a bad batt.
I normally do the drain complete then full recharge anyway. I know it has been said you don't need to do a batt conditioning anymore, but I still do at least once a month for a better calibration. Heck, even the Evil Empire over at Apple suggests it for my MacBook batt.
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I would use it it until 0%/power off then try recharging it again to see what happens. It may just be a bad batt.
I normally do the drain complete then full recharge anyway. I know it has been said you don't need to do a batt conditioning anymore, but I still do at least once a month for a better calibration. Heck, even the Evil Empire over at Apple suggests it for my MacBook batt.
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I'd do what this guys said. I got the extended battery on Monday, but didn't put it in my phone until Monday night to charge overnight. It dropped to 90% battery the next morning in about 15 minutes, but I still got about 14 hours off the charger and was at 30% battery before going to bed. Today, it was on 100% for over 2 hours. Batteries don't reach their full potential for about a week, so I've heard and experienced. Charge up your stock battery and keep it in your pocket, then try charging up the extended battery again. If it is stuck at 30% still, go swap it out under warranty and try again.
I am on Prime HD 8.0 and the battery life is dismal. I wiped battery stat, deleted unwanted apps but the battery life is still too bad.I changed the ROM and the problem persists. So its not a software issue. My X8 is almost two years old so I suspect its the battery. Is there any way i can check battery health? The shape of the battery hasnt changed or anything. Any opinions?
Secondly, if I do have to go in for a battery, should I get the EP500 standard 1200mah battery or the Mugen Power's 1300mah battery? Has anyone used the latter? Is the higher price I need to pay for the latter justified by better battery life?
karun11 said:
I am on Prime HD 8.0 and the battery life is dismal. I wiped battery stat, deleted unwanted apps but the battery life is still too bad.I changed the ROM and the problem persists. So its not a software issue. My X8 is almost two years old so I suspect its the battery. Is there any way i can check battery health? The shape of the battery hasnt changed or anything. Any opinions?
Secondly, if I do have to go in for a battery, should I get the EP500 standard 1200mah battery or the Mugen Power's 1300mah battery? Has anyone used the latter? Is the higher price I need to pay for the latter justified by better battery life?
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try to use eclair (2.1) for few days
because you are runing custom
fotak-x said:
try to use eclair (2.1) for few days
because you are runing custom
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Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
karun11 said:
Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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u use battery for 2 years...... new battery for shure
karun11 said:
Dont think that'll help. After charging to 100%, the battery drops to 90% after 5 mins of use!
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My battery does that too on custom roms (99-90% in a few mins, but it drains a whole lot less after that). And it's not even a year old. Do try to flash back to stock with minimal apps installed and check the battery drain for just 2-3 days. I do think it's the battery, but it doesn't hurt to be sure.
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my battery is one year old and it runs good. try wipe battery stats and use stock eclair for a few days. and make sure you dischard it to 0% ( you can even power on your phone) than charge it to 100% on stock eclair. make sure you have turned gps off and use 2G networks if you you dont use mobile data. ---- but I think you know that already. configure wifi sleep policy, brightness, turn off unnecesary apps etc.
If you have battery for cca. 2years. - its very possible that you need to change it. And I think you should but first try whats mentioned above
Battery draining from 100% to 90% fast is normal. Just FYI
RohinZaraki said:
Battery draining from 100% to 90% fast is normal. Just FYI
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Not in 1-2 mins
Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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horr1blek1tten said:
How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?
i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.
The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.
So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!
Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it
My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!
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I bought the Motorola Razr I yesterday, I been using it all day today.
But the battery is abnormally short. It drops very fast min 10% per hour to 27% per hour. I don't think this is normal for a new phone. The battery temperature is 38°c on normal use.
Am I using the phone wrong or did I get a faulty phone?.
I have nfc on all the time until 23% but after that I turned off nfc to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to be.
I can get screen captures if needed.
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you need some circles from full to down then you will se the real power.
but the battery with stock rom is not so great as with the custom rom from omar or max.
i dont think your battery is faulty give it some tryes!
and at least you csn not easy change the battery by yourself
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I bought the Motorola Razr I yesterday, I been using it all day today.
But the battery is abnormally short. It drops very fast min 10% per hour to 27% per hour. I don't think this is normal for a new phone. The battery temperature is 38°c on normal use.
Am I using the phone wrong or did I get a faulty phone?.
I have nfc on all the time until 23% but after that I turned off nfc to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to be.
I can get screen captures if needed.
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You might wanna figure out what is actually draining your battery. Search XDA for 'better battery stats' and install it. When your phone is not beeing used it should stay in deep sleep for most of the time, if not, check wakelocks to see whats keeping it from sleeping. For me it was mostly Google Now which caused the drain.
ok so the more i use the battery the better results i may get?
One of the reasons i bought this phone was because of the review on battery life e.g. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-razr-i-1098183/review/9
Now i have done a wipe of cache and data, did a factory reset. Charged from 10% to 100%. Getting the last few % is hard, this morning i woke up and it was still 99%. Went back after 1 hour to check it was 99% and dropped to 98% while the phone is off and charging.
Once its 100% again i will install the better battery stats as 696 suggested and post my results.
In my pretty long android experience this happens all the time with new phones, after updates.. You can do anything you want (cleaning cache, restart, etc), but it gets finally better by itself after a couple of days.
Don't ask me why, but it works like that.
Battery life of Razr i is excellent, best of all phones (incl iphones) I ever had!
Good luck and have some patience - so simple is that!
Recommended is to charge the new Phone full, before you turn it on the first time. A lil bit patience is needed, but that should help to avoid stuff like this.
And as the Guy above already posted, the battery will calibrate during daily use. It's the same, when you flash or update an Rom. You'll see the "real battery drain" first after a couple of Charges. And don't wipe battery stats in CWM, that's useless.
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And also try disabling Google Now (search for that if you don't know how).
My phone never hits 100% on charve all day stuck at 98 or 99%
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My phone never hits 100% on charve all day stuck at 98 or 99%
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I have the same problem phone never gets to 100% it was going to 98% but this morning it was at 97%, thinking of sending it back as it only three weeks old...it should have come right a this stage.
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Did you manage to get to the bottom of the question?
I bought my Razr i 3 weeks ago, I had high expectations about the battery, but the battery only lasts about one day and half, is this normal? I am not a heavy user.
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I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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I've noticed it on a rather old device, a htc desire hd. (running a custom 4.4.2 rom) It lastest so long on 1%.
Probarly you need to re-calibrate your battery, after that it shouldn't get stuck on 1% anymore for such a long time
Jamolah said:
I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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Once a month I recalibrate my battery, and it will sit on 1% for hours some times, and then only minutes the next it just depends. Just let it die then charge it to 100% uninterrupted. Normally they get uncalibrated after rom flashes and if you put it on a charger but don't let it charge to 100%.
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Jamolah said:
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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iKrYpToNiTe said:
Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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oeusr said:
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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Hmm that's odd never had that issue, I rarely go below 50% during the day.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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It is if you do it every time, but not if you do it once a month or after a rom install.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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danny39 said:
When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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This article is old but it explains why you shouldn't fully discharge a lithium-ion battery often! http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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I couldn't have paraphrased that article any better nice!
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
Wutang200 said:
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
I've experienced the same thing on my Moto X.
Something tells me that it's somehow related to poor battery life... But that's just expeculation.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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jakereeves31 said:
I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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ya like i said earlier, i also did read that deleting that folder was pointless but who knows. If my phone was continuing to do what yours is then i would be trying all sorts of things that people said wouldn't work. Then i would throw the phone into beer, bc i can, bc this thing is pretty much waterproof as anything. SOmebody submerged the thing in water for 30 minutes and it was still running. So maybe throw your phone in beer as a last resort.