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Reading around, I have found that the Galaxy Tab has the same amount of ram as the Galaxy S, however, when you read the available ram it says it has 444 mb (somewhere around there) compared to the 304 mb of the galaxy S (343 mb of you use the speedmod)
So my first question is if we can look at the Galaxy Tab, and just port over the code to allow more available ram to the Galaxy S?
My second question is that the Galaxy Tab supports Full 1080p HD playback. Since both the S and the Tab have the same GPU chip, I was wondering if we can also port that to the Galaxy S.
Now i know i know, 1080p playback on a phone is useless, but its not useless for ppl who have DLNA-capable TV's and for who-knows-when Samsung will get that microUSB to HDMI cable working.
UPDATE (11/7/10): Another thought came to mind last night. Reading through the Speedmod thread, there were certain amounts of ram before 720p recording and playback stopped working. Well, can we create some kind of script where we only had the allocated the ram of one of them? IDK how to really put this into words, but I don't think anyone will ever record 720p and watch a 720p video at the same time, so can we have it so that the ram is only open for one or the other, and it switches depending on whether you are recording 720p or watching it? Instead of having both of them take up ram, like have only one of them, at a time, taking up ram. Not sure of that really made sense :/
And port the large screen too.
Ya I agree I'd love a bigger screen.
10 billion dollars to have someone who can turn my screen into 5 inches.
Another 5 billion if they can do it without taking up extra space.
I'm sorry about that I just couldn't help myself
opcow said:
And port the large screen too.
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michael.seltzer said:
Ya I agree I'd love a bigger screen.
10 billion dollars to have someone who can turn my screen into 5 inches.
Another 5 billion if they can do it without taking up extra space.
I'm sorry about that I just couldn't help myself
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Whats even funnier is how your sarcasm doesn't even make sense because what I am suggesting is actually possible because the hardware is identical in both aspects, and since both devices run android, it should not be a hard port. Thats why I'm asking if an experienced developer or anyone with skill in programming to take a look in it.
If you aren't going to contribute an educated answer or a helpful one, please don't comment. I'm just someone asking a question, and sarcastic answers like this aren't necessary.
Ya sorry abou thatt. I see you question vut this has all already been discussed that the rest of the ram is used for system apps and stuff so you probably wouldnt want to change that.
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michael.seltzer said:
Ya sorry abou thatt. I see you question vut this has all already been discussed that the rest of the ram is used for system apps and stuff so you probably wouldnt want to change that.
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Yeah... but you're saying the Galaxy Tab doesn't have system apps....I'm pretty sure it does...
I'm pretty sure even the firmware are very similar because of the identical hardware, other than the screen and camera.
crazililazn said:
Yeah... but you're saying the Galaxy Tab doesn't have system apps....I'm pretty sure it does...
I'm pretty sure even the firmware are very similar because of the identical hardware, other than the screen and camera.
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He says system apps because of the video playback. If you go to the i9000 developtment section youll see a kernel thread called speed mod. (This is what setirons kernel is based off of) in there youll see the that certain amount of memory is needed to playback videos in 720p.
Thats what i think hes talking about system apps.
Now if you want 1080p playback AND more ram youll see why its not currently possible
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tytdfn said:
He says system apps because of the video playback. If you go to the i9000 developtment section youll see a kernel thread called speed mod. (This is what setirons kernel is based off of) in there youll see the that certain amount of memory is needed to playback videos in 720p.
Thats what i think hes talking about system apps.
Now if you want 1080p playback AND more ram youll see why its not currently possible
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Yeah but you aren't getting my point. The Galaxy Tab has the same amount of ram as the Galaxy S.... So how can the Galaxy S use less ram for playing 1080p...
That is what I want ported.
crazililazn said:
Yeah but you aren't getting my point. The Galaxy Tab has the same amount of ram as the Galaxy S.... So how can the Galaxy S use less ram for playing 1080p...
That is what I want ported.
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Did someone took apart Galaxy S to confirm that it does indeed have everything identical ?
If not , for all we know it might have way more ram and or updated media hardware guts.
crazililazn said:
Yeah but you aren't getting my point. The Galaxy Tab has the same amount of ram as the Galaxy S.... So how can the Galaxy S use less ram for playing 1080p...
That is what I want ported.
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I'm pretty sure somebody discovered the Galaxy Tab actually has 768 MB of RAM. It's just that Samsung didn't disclose that.
Disgustipated said:
I'm pretty sure somebody discovered the Galaxy Tab actually has 768 MB of RAM. It's just that Samsung didn't disclose that.
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Nope, just searched through google and xda galaxy tab section and I can't find anything stating that.
crazililazn said:
Nope, just searched through google and xda galaxy tab section and I can't find anything stating that.
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Not to mention from what I understand the hardware might br similar but is not close to identical. If the galaxy s phones were identical then roms would be interchangeable etc. But it isn't. I think ports of features would be nice, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. The ram issue has been worked on and from what I understand 340 I'd all they have been able to unlock.
I think the most important thing captivate devs could do right now is aosp because that will open a whole world of possibilities bit even that is amazingly difficult because of the way samsung built their system and all of the wonderful hooks and links.
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Not to mention from what I understand the hardware might br similar but is not close to identical. If the galaxy s phones were identical then roms would be interchangeable etc. But it isn't. I think ports of features would be nice, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.
I think the most important thing captivate devs could do right now is aosp because that will open a whole world of possibilities bit even that is amazingly difficult because of the way samsung built their system and all of the wonderful hooks and links.
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The hardware is the same, other than the screen and camera. They both have a Hummingbird 1 ghz CPU and a SGX540 GPU chip, same amount of ram.
Btw, has anyone tried flashing a Galaxy tab rom on a Galaxy S? Since most of the hardware is the same, i would predict that the camera wouldnt work, and the screen MIGHT work, but the icons would be way larger than normal, but for everything else, it should work cuz the hardware is identical.
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The hardware is the same, other than the screen and camera. They both have a Hummingbird 1 ghz CPU and a SGX540 GPU chip, same amount of ram.
Btw, has anyone tried flashing a Galaxy tab rom on a Galaxy S? Since most of the hardware is the same, i would predict that the camera wouldnt work, and the screen MIGHT work, but the icons would be way larger than normal, but for everything else, it should work cuz the hardware is identical.
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Run a diff on the roms. I'm guessing there are a lot more differences than screen and camera.
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Run a diff on the roms. I'm guessing there are a lot more differences than screen and camera.
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Wait, can you type this again? I didn't get what you meant.
crazililazn said:
Wait, can you type this again? I didn't get what you meant.
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I'm no developer but I know you can take 2 sets of rom files and run scripts that compare differences. I don't how to do it. But I know the devs were using this to try to get diffs between aosp and the leaked froyo to try to fill in gaps.
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I'm no developer but I know you can take 2 sets of rom files and run scripts that compare differences. I don't how to do it. But I know the devs were using this to try to get diffs between aosp and the leaked froyo to try to fill in gaps.
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Is there a dev thread on this? I would like to read through it. Might be a good read :]
Don't know if there is a direct thread. I wish there was. I would like to get more in-depth with the captivate.
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Don't know if there is a direct thread. I wish there was. I would like to get more in-depth with the captivate.
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Hmm, interesting. where did you read about this? in the galaxy tab section?
crazililazn said:
Hmm, interesting. where did you read about this? in the galaxy tab section?
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Look for gdankos post "any brave volunteers" about aosp. Its definitely in there.
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Hey guys. Just want to compare what the overclocking capabilities of the SGS and so I'm asking you:
What's your highest benchmark score?
Mine was: 2628 with MIUI v.5 Glitch v.10 Kernel overclocked to stable 1500 mhz.
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Who really cares about outdated synthetic benchmarks?? And WHY is this in Q&A?
blockbusta said:
Hey guys. Just want to compare what the overclocking capabilities of the SGS and so I'm asking you:
What's your highest benchmark score?
Mine was: 2628 with MIUI v.5 Glitch v.10 Kernel overclocked to stable 1500 mhz.
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My specs: CM7 #15 nightly, Chainfire 3D(makes score worse ) and kernel is CM7_SGSMTD_20110603-09_r_platypus-revolutions-kernel_0_NEO_06(no-led-notif)
Just for you I overclocked my SGS to 1500 just with the CM7 settings there (tried 1600 but it froze) so on the 1500 made 10 quadrant runs (or more)
And this is the best result (it averages between 2900-3000)
I guess without the chainfire3D it could go higher . Also with this kernel even though the synthetic benchmark shows awesome speeds. It feels lagging in the UI
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Who really cares about outdated synthetic benchmarks?? And WHY is this in Q&A?
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No one told you its rude to answer a question with a question? Also everyone, including the OP (for sure) knows that quadrant scores means nothing (check my comment). WE ALL KNOW.
AND?
And let me repeat myself AND? What did your reply bring to this thread? Did it help the OP? If you claim its bad bad, you could have at least write why? (Then my reaction would be nicer)
But to write "Its bad", has no value for the poster or the thread... And frankly these posts here are more common as the ones "how big is yours?"
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No one told you its rude to answer a question with a question? Also everyone, including the OP (for sure) knows that quadrant scores means nothing (check my comment). WE ALL KNOW.
AND?
And let me repeat myself AND? What did your reply bring to this thread? Did it help the OP? If you claim its bad bad, you could have at least write why? (Then my reaction would be nicer)
But to write "Its bad", has no value for the poster or the thread... And frankly these posts here are more common as the ones "how big is yours?"
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Who ever said "It's bad"? And this Q&A section is for users asking questions, since they genuinely require some help and assistance. This belongs in General. And, there's no point flaming me. You're not getting anywhere with that. This thread is still pointless. There have been several topics such as this before, and like it's ancestors, it will die soon...
EDIT: And for the record, if you EVEN KNEW JACK (if you know what that means), you wouldn't have bothered replying here.. knowing the pointlessness of it all..
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Who ever said "It's bad"? And this Q&A section is for users asking questions, since they genuinely require some help and assistance. This belongs in General. And, there's no point flaming me. You're not getting anywhere with that. This thread is still pointless. There have been several topics such as this before, and like it's ancestors, it will die soon...
EDIT: And for the record, if you EVEN KNEW JACK (if you know what that means), you wouldn't have bothered replying here.. knowing the pointlessness of it all..
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And again you post nothing to the thread, just completely OT...
this is from the rules:
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Also, if you know it will die, why you replied as a first person how futile it is? (please dont answer this, also the answer is known)
nothing more to say, just asking nicely not to respond if you have nothing of value to add
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My specs: CM7 #15 nightly, Chainfire 3D(makes score worse ) and kernel is CM7_SGSMTD_20110603-09_r_platypus-revolutions-kernel_0_NEO_06(no-led-notif)
Just for you I overclocked my SGS to 1500 just with the CM7 settings there (tried 1600 but it froze) so on the 1500 made 10 quadrant runs (or more)
And this is the best result (it averages between 2900-3000)
I guess without the chainfire3D it could go higher . Also with this kernel even though the synthetic benchmark shows awesome speeds. It feels lagging in the UI
No one told you its rude to answer a question with a question? Also everyone, including the OP (for sure) knows that quadrant scores means nothing (check my comment). WE ALL KNOW.
AND?
And let me repeat myself AND? What did your reply bring to this thread? Did it help the OP? If you claim its bad bad, you could have at least write why? (Then my reaction would be nicer)
But to write "Its bad", has no value for the poster or the thread... And frankly these posts here are more common as the ones "how big is yours?"
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nice scores there
although offtopic,
i'd like to know what screenshot app you are using...
with the built-in screengrabber for samsung, i can't get a nice shot using the back-button and home button >_<
lockzackary said:
nice scores there
although offtopic,
i'd like to know what screenshot app you are using...
with the built-in screengrabber for samsung, i can't get a nice shot using the back-button and home button >_<
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I use ShootMe. Shaking to make the screenie
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ah right, i found that app yesterday, so do you just let shootme run in the background the whole time?
i find it quite troublesome to run shootme only when i need it as you'd have to repeat the process of tapping its hide button then switching back to the app you were before.
can you tell me of a better way to use it?
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No one told you its rude to answer a question with a question?
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If it is, it must be isolated to only some countries..
PAGOT said:
Also everyone, including the OP (for sure) knows that quadrant scores means nothing (check my comment). WE ALL KNOW.
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Really? You sure? Actually, I have to disagree with both of you. Yes, in most circumstances Quadrant scores are useless without seeing the big picture. However, I wonder if when overclocking, if there is anything that might become slower? Generally with overclocking, you are trading stability/efficiency for speed.
Whilst a doubling of scores may not reflect a 200% increase in speed, in similar rom's with similar hardware, with similar apps running, it maybe can be used for comparison.
That being said, I could overclock my phone and produce the highest score, yet, it may only be stable enough to survive the Quadrant test 50% of the time.
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What did your reply bring to this thread? Did it help the OP?
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Did yours?
There are 2 sides to the story:
1) I'd be guessing though this is a dupe. There are MANY quadrant related threads already.
2) On the other hand, in the dark ages, many people defended Quadrant as though it was bloody accurate as new roms were being released. I think of them as the dark ages because reliance on quadrant left people closed minded, making decisions based solely on quadrant scores. They gave up on ROM's simply because Quadrant told them to. If reminders aren't posted every so often, we might spawn a new generation of Quadrant worshipers.
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ah right, i found that app yesterday, so do you just let shootme run in the background the whole time?
i find it quite troublesome to run shootme only when i need it as you'd have to repeat the process of tapping its hide button then switching back to the app you were before.
can you tell me of a better way to use it?
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Ah sorry no. I dont take so many screenshots. So for me its is sufficient. But there are alternatives to it just look into related stuff. Also it doesn't have to be shake activated I guess.
So My girlfriend has Garminfone and there is no info on the internet at all on how to overclock or a custom kernel or anything really so i Have rooted it but would like to do more so i have done a lil research and will like to build Custom Recovery for the phone but before i start i thought i would post a thread here with all my Optimus one family that i trust and love to get some tips and hopefully even some instructions as the instructions online are hard to fallow ??? so anything ???
Can give a clear answer about that, because its different for most phones.
Some phones like our Optimus One have a recoverypartition, a phone like Samsung Galaxy 3 has not. It took some work to port CWM to that phone and mumbozver (an XDA-user on de Galaxy 3-thread) managed to port it to that phone).
Guess it's best to post a question in the main android-section for this
make "cat /proc/mtd" in "adb shell".
If there are error - porting will be hard
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Can give a clear answer about that, because its different for most phones.
Some phones like our Optimus One have a recoverypartition, a phone like Samsung Galaxy 3 has not. It took some work to port CWM to that phone and mumbozver (an XDA-user on de Galaxy 3-thread) managed to port it to that phone).
Guess it's best to post a question in the main android-section for this
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Ok so how do I figure out if I do our not and then what's next
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dislplin01 said:
Ok so how do I figure out if I do our not and then what's next
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Maybe start with telling us which phone we are talking about...
Here some specs that might help you:
Garminfone is the market name from "Nüviphone A50".
- MSM7227 chipset
- ARM Cortex A11 procssesor (ARMv6) @600MHz
- 256MB RAM
- 4GB ROM
- A-GPS
- WLAN b/g
- 3MP camera
- display have 480 x 320 Pixel
with this informations you can go at first to the step from mik, if it works might be
you can adapt a custom recovery for that phone
Oh... Nuviphone A50. I got this junk for free with their navigation. Well, frankly - you are better off throwing that brick away. One of the worst Android phones ever.
andy572 said:
with this informations you can go at first to the step from mik, if it works might be
you can adapt a custom recovery for that phone
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Do not hold your breath.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/5864-garminfone-a50/
doktornotor said:
Oh... Nuviphone A50. I got this junk for free with their navigation. Well, frankly - you are better off throwing that brick away. One of the worst Android phones ever.
Do not hold your breath.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/5864-garminfone-a50/
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Yea I have seen that thread and some other threads on other forums and sites but they dont tell you much thank you tho and thanks for the specs 2 any info I can get is good
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dislplin01 said:
Yea I have seen that thread and some other threads on other forums and sites but they dont tell you much thank you tho and thanks for the specs 2 any info I can get is good
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Well, if the guys on the thread I have linked are not even willing to team up to finally produce something after basically having wasted about a year on this without getting it even bootable... good luck with this.
I would personally suggest bricking the phone intentionally and claiming warranty. Pretty sure this junk has been EOLed so you might get a decent phone as replacement. (Though, you might be unfortunate enough to get a brand new replacement brick since the Garmin's stock must be full of these collecting dust. )
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Here some specs that might help you:
Garminfone is the market name from "Nüviphone A50".
- MSM7227 chipset
- ARM Cortex A11 procssesor (ARMv6) @600MHz
- 256MB RAM
- 4GB ROM
- A-GPS
- WLAN b/g
- 3MP camera
- display have 480 x 320 Pixel
with this informations you can go at first to the step from mik, if it works might be
you can adapt a custom recovery for that phone
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Thank you andy and mik you guys are awesome for this and all the work you put in will let you know how that goes tomorrow
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Will be another week before I try I have work a newborn baby to take of but will let you know
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I for one would be very happy I dont have the smarts to even attempt this. But yes the garminfone is very very slow boring.. It would be just wonderful to have a recovery even better a rom mayb some point to bring this phone at least upto an ehhh ok phone status := Im willing to test/help what ever it is . Im not the best in the develoment area but I do have a garminfone and enough sense to try and give a hand.
Hi guys. Is there any improvenvement with the multiouch bug? I talking about that the Galaxy mini cant recognize the second touch instantly. You have move your fingers on the screen befor it recognize. It's annoying when you playing games.
Sorry for my bad english
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Hi guys. Is there any improvenvement with the multiouch bug? I talking about that the Galaxy mini cant recognize the second touch instantly. You have move your fingers on the screen befor it recognize. It's annoying when you playing games.
Sorry for my bad english
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First, if you overclock your device it should be solved; and second, wrong section dude
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First, if you overclock your device it should be solved; and second, wrong section dude
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Why wrong section? It's a software based issue. Needs improvement. What kind of overclock solve this problem?
I dont think theres any solution yet...its a driver problem n i guess samsung can fix this but they haven't yet..
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first Samsung phone has zero multi touch conflict n problem.
second wrong section .
third laggy response is CPU problem( how its send dot per dot sensors)
fourth what the heck it is........??????
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Why wrong section? It's a software based issue. Needs improvement. What kind of overclock solve this problem?
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Definitely wrong section..any question no matter what does not belong here unless u have developed something to improve it.
That being said it is not a bug from the roms but rather a samsung driver or some other prob as elixdragon said...this is a low end phone, what can we expect.
This exists even on stock gb (i assume it does)?? i never checked.
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read abv post.
This is android development, not tech support. Regardless of a valid question there is no development here.
Please post in the appropiatte section or be subject to an infraction.
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Can someone share the info related above with the topic
MeTinnn said:
Can someone share the info related above with the topic
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Windows Phone 8 is made for multi core processors phones
It can be backported and with the correct kernel modifications coild easily run on simgle core. Because the hd7 has a powerfull cpu
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We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
maya79 said:
We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
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This requires to have the working ROM Microsoft used for testing and development...
Its is a well known fact that WP8 was tested on the HD7, someone discovered the log about the "work in progress" of WP8 and the log clearly stated that the testing phone was the HD7.
Now, about the beta they used? Well getting our hands on that ROM, it's a challenge someone must face... (a real hacker, not those script kids, posers)