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VOTE AGAIN ROUND TWO!
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?7634-Round-2-Battle-for-the-Bionic-Dev-Giveaway
Vote for RevNumbers
He did a great job on Droid 2 and it would be great to have him with cvpcs working on the bionic
Been using CM7 for awhile on Fascinate and Droid, I am still hmm not quiet sure I want to put CM on Bionic...soo much bugs, so unstable..eheheh
Bump! The race is close, single digits close! Help Rev over the top!
BUMP FOR ROUND two
Why the heck not, I love CM7, BUMP
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For anyone who wants CM7 on their bionic, I highly recommend going the extra mile to register with the site, if you are not already, because if the CM7 team has the bionic, it can finnaly be developed for
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CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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Those guys are already out of the running. There was a tie between Rev and Framework earlier today and there's now a 1v1 vote up to be the tie breaker.
And then along came Debbie Downer:
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Ok, I see lots of "cm7 ftw" type comments. I thought my post in the other thread would be enough, but maybe it should be said again.
AOSP/MIUI will not come to this phone anytime in the foreseeable future. Let me break it down like this.
Remember on the Evo back before shinzul and toast got wimax working? We are kinda in the same position again. Here we are, faced with devices that contain a totally new form of data. One that isn't available in the aosp repos. One that we have no reference code for. One that the code is different for on each lte device.
Your first question is probably, "Well they did it on the Thunderbolt, why not the Bionic?" Fair question, and seeing as we got aosp and lte on that device witgout the help of cm, I think I'm in a position to answer it. The thunderbolt runs a qualcomm chip, unlike the charge and the bionic. Qulacomm has this nifty little site called Code Aurora Forums. CAF is where all the lte code came from. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but neither slayher nor xoomdev wrote 99% of the lte code. The difficult part with the bolt was making it all work with our existing rom code.
This code WILL NOT work on non qualcomm devices, I would hope that goes without saying.
So where's that leave us you ask? SOL. Or **** out of luck for those of you who don't know l33t sp3ak.
Remember my comment about wimax and team w1n? Those guys literally wrote the wimax code FROM SCRATCH. And it took FOREVER. The evo just got wimax on aosp months ago, and how long was the device out for?
What's this all actually mean you ask? It means don't expect with one of these guys to bring miui or cm7 or anything non blur based to this device. Not that I think either of these guys arent amazing devs, they both are. No disrespect to either one, but I think even they would agree that they aren't up to the challange of writing lte literally from nothing.
Also, one more thing on the wimax-evo/lte-bionic comparison. Yea, before the evo got wimax, it still had 3g and was a perfectly functional Rom. In this case its going to be a little different.
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The follow statements are the only thing in this post I ccannot 100% back up. I'm 99% of their correctness, but could be wrong.
With my experience with lte, its all or nothing. You don't get working 3g and no 4g. You get it all or you get basically an ipodtouch. Nothing but wifi.
Now, someone did mention that the bionic has seperate radios, unlike the bolt. They used this as an argument that 3g can be fixed before 4g is made to work. My argument against that is to look at the current cm7 build for the bionic. No data. No 3g. Data is RARELY an obstacle for aosp on devices. Usually only when something weird is going on, like what Samsung does, or where lte is involved.
Again, I could be wrong. But I doubt it.
Tldr : Quit expecting aosp on this device. And if you ***** out whoever wins for not getting aosp booted, I will personally print out this post, find you and shove it down your throat.
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The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(
Why would I want anyone wasting their time on CM7 for Bionic? I know that it's fun to get hold of lots of new ROMs and spend all your free time every evening trying new ones, but it's going to take a while and in the meantime, there's this Ice Cream Sandwich thing (anybody else heard of it) that's coming out.
Love the CM offerings; CM7 was fun on my Eris... but would be as enticing as Eclair with modded Sense on my Bionic! Anybody have a good reason to pursue this further aside from new toys???
The more the merrier?
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And then along came Debbie Downer:
The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(
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All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.
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All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.
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Its a new technology naturally it will take longer to figure out ^_^
Will it be ported over and have a good working rom or will our poor little droid just not be able to handle it?
Google says the requirements are about the same for Gingerbread, but from what I have read, Google says things like that even when the new version needs more.
I am sure someone will get it running and then tweak it to heck.
When the source is released to AOSP, I'm sure the CyanogenMod team will attempt a port. And if CM9 drops support for the D1, someone else will more than likely port it. If not, I might take a shot
I guess we'll find out when it hits AOSP, won't we?
Even if that means waiting until the first official ICS devices are out, I'm sure there's enough demand to get people to start a port.
OTOH, I'm not responsible if you die from holding your breath Even though I personally don't see a reason to upgrade hardware just to get ICS - which IMO is an evolutionary update - there's no guarantee you'll get D1 support on ICS even from this wonderful community.
I guess we're lucky we can run CyanogenMod at all... The future doesn't look bright for Motorola or Android, especially considering Microsoft's Android extortion campaign. Well crap, I'm getting off topic
We might get a CM port. However, I think some of the features are going to be stripped in order to prevent performance from hindering.
We going to get Ice cream dont worry cyano never failed to update stock phones and nexus one will get it without google too!
Word on the street is CM is going to start dropping more devices. Droid turned 2 and it's EOL now.
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We going to get Ice cream dont worry cyano never failed to update stock phones and nexus one will get it without google too!
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The Nexus One does have 2x the RAM our Droids do though, and the 1 Ghz Snapdragon
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The Nexus One does have 2x the RAM our Droids do though, and the 1 Ghz Snapdragon
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Yep, only reason it didn't get it officialy is because the phone doesn't have enough storage to hold the update without some hax
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Yep, only reason it didn't get it officialy is because the phone doesn't have enough storage to hold the update without some hax
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Oh...so, if our D1 does get an ICS port, does this mean it'll need an ext4? Like even for an AOSP
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Oh...so, if our D1 does get an ICS port, does this mean it'll need an ext4? Like even for an AOSP
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Probably :/
Damn! This sucks! I might just leave it on gingerbread, since I have an HD2 as my main device. However, most of the AOSP GB for the Droid are like 70 ish MB,[ like the .zip file] so maybe ICS won't be much larger if it's stripped down of unneccessary stuff. But then there might not be much internal space left for apps.... Ugh!
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Damn! This sucks! I might just leave it on gingerbread, since I have an HD2 as my main device. However, most of the AOSP GB for the Droid are like 70 ish MB,[ like the .zip file] so maybe ICS won't be much larger if it's stripped down of unneccessary stuff. But then there might not be much internal space left for apps.... Ugh!
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Yeh, but Link2SD takes care of that nicely.
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The GalnetMIUI team has already got ICS booting on the Milestone.
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The GalnetMIUI team has already got ICS booting on the Milestone.
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But not the Verizon Droid
@electrobeijing your right but the g1 and mytouch 3g have gingerbread on cyanogenmod 7 this year.
But i think the g1,mytouch 3g,Motorola cliq,htc tattoo and motorola cliq qt . wont get ice cream sandwich but cyanogenmod 9 will include droid 1 hopefully if it doesnt i have other phone that it will.
Anyone have a video of galnet miui on the milestone to see how well it runs?
I haven't seen any ROM updates or development news in some time. I was planning on getting the Nexus anyways, but I at least wanted the phone to have life after I passed it on.
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I've been waiting and hoping. I like my bionic a lot.
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We have liberty, that's enough for me. Liberty was all I ran (I tried others but always went back) on my Droid X, with my thunderbolt I only ran BAMF roms. I would like to see more customizable options like power control widget in the notification pull down.
Unfoetinitaly I agree. Having had the evo 4G and the thunderbolt, Dev for this phone seems dead.
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I disagree. Liberty was released just a few weeks ago, the the30ry dev has released two new ROMS, one of which was just updated yesterday, and eclipse will have a 5.7.893 update here soon. In addition, there are devs working to get ICS working on the bionic, and a CM7 project (although I don't know if that's in the works any longer as they have announced CM9 for January). I will say that few of these devs seem to be active on XDA any more, they're all on droidforums and rootzwiki. But they're out there.
It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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And I never tried to deny it. However, I'm passing on the phone to my girlfriend, and I didn't want her to be SOL when it came to the best part of owning an Android device.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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You're probably right.
Surely the parade of better more exciting devices isn't helping.
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I agree I feel UN loved
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Hmm.....
We're supposed to get the OTA and ICS....No???
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I feel the same way about the Photon, but we are making progress too.
Have you guys been able to unlock your bootloaders without loosing LTE? If so, you are at an advantage, but how many of you have developers with this phone?
There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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I understand, I am going through the same thing with my Photon, on Sprint, the Now Network.
The devs definitely haven't given up, the Th3ory T3am is working on getting CM9 to boot and a couple of devs over at DF are going through the source code to see if they can unlock the bootloader right now.
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There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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A locked BL isn't as big of a hindrance as people think ... really all it stops you from doing is running a custom kernel. You can still make custom roms and over/underclock. Sure it's not ideal bc you have to deal with 2nd init to run CM but otherwise there is still a lot of flexibility. Liberty, Th3ory and eclipse are perfect testaments to that.
it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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That's a good point. I would hope that at that point they would at least have the decency to unlock our BL... but who.knows. I'm holding out hope for project cheesecake ... yum I can smell the creamy goodness...
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The Razr came out, all hyped up, and now half of what you see on the forums is talking about how it's not that much different than the Bionic, and it clearly becomes a subjective issue, mainly based on form factor and pentile rgbw/lcd (bionic) vs pentile rgbg/samoled (razr).
The Gnex will likely be similar once it comes out and people realize that its not that much better either. It has pure ICS, but I bet we'll be seeing some of that by the time the Gnex is released anyway - at least some roms based on that source anyway.
Droid 4 is literally a Razr with a kb.
Rezound is great as well, but nothing tremendously better than these others.
My point is this... All of these new phones have something positive and something negative about them. I don't see any good reason why developers would stop supporting the bionic, as it is technically in the same league as all of these other phones. I don't think I'm being too much of an idealist ... at least that's my hope
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Hello. I will be receiving a Droid 3 as a warranty replacement tomorrow. It comes with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) pre-installed. I have been searching, and cannot find a way to root the Droid 3.
I am hoping I missed it. If someone can point me to the tutorial for rooting the Droid 3 with ICS, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello. I will be receiving a Droid 3 as a warranty replacement tomorrow. It comes with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) pre-installed. I have been searching, and cannot find a way to root the Droid 3.
I am hoping I missed it. If someone can point me to the tutorial for rooting the Droid 3 with ICS, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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Where did you hear it will come with ICS...? Because it won't.
I was told this by the Verizon rep. It is a warranty replacement. he specifically said it has ICS on it. No, I am not mistaken. Maybe he was?
Even if it doesn't, I have been unable to find a tutorial for rooting the Droid 3.
I can assure you that it will not be arriving with ICS, I'm sure he must have been mistaken. It will most likely be running Gingerbread 2.3.4 with the 5.6.890 system software.
Anywho... here is the tutorial you are looking for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240130
If you do get one with ics on it then I will be calling Verizon and having them replace my phone for one like that
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If you do get one with ics on it then I will be calling Verizon and having them replace my phone for one like that
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If you get a phone w/ics system dump before anything else please, if you need a hand lots of people here will help (or on irc) but since moto still has the d3 listed as "evaluating" for ics and haven't even started working on a build I would say the rep is more than likely mistaken. Hopefully not but if moto had an ics build for the d3 I imagine we would have heard about a soak or something. As for your question I would probably try the root for d4 and if that didn't work check out what they're using on the nexus etc
If you do get ICS please tweet Hash. We really could benefit from it.
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We would still have a locked bootloader and the same kernel issues though. I'd put money on the rep being wrong, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
so what version of android did you end up getting on the d3?
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You folks were right. He was wrong. It has 2.3.4.
It runs pretty fast, compares well to the DX2. I wanted CM ROM on it, but none are completely working. Camera has issues GSM FCs and so forth. I just wish my DX2 would work. Haven't used a physical keyboard in a while either.
What do you folks think of your Droid 3s?
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What do you folks think of your Droid 3s?
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I bought my D3 FOR the keyboard. I came from an enV touch and the thought of a touchscreen keyboard that wasn't 100% perfect made me shiver. Looking back, I would definitely have gone with a SGS II. I didn't know anything about the D3's bootloader being locked and the full touch screen is definitely worth the unlocked bootloader. That being said, I still love the keyboard. It's better than any I have ever used.
I don't hate my Droid 3. It runs my ICS roms rather smoothly and the only thing that I wished worked is Google Chrome. I use the camera but I found that I have not wanted to use the video recorder since switching; even if it DID work.
If you want a CM ROM that is pretty stable, I'd recommend 7.2 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308924
It's a bit more stable than CM9, though it still has some bugs. Stable enough for a daily driver in my opinion.
My d3 is alright but if I was sent one now with any option of sending back either for a different phone or terminate a contract(within 30 days or whatever and setup a new one) I would jump @ the chance, just because its a little old, 1g ram would be nice but imo it's like dual core phones, 1 core is wasted 90% of the time, upgradable to ics would be very nice too, custom kernel would be nicest though(htc,lg etc etc). I guess what I'm saying is its decent but I wouldn't buy one now.
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I'd say droid 3 is all about the keyboard. Without the keyboard, there would be many better phones. Phones with 1GB ram, unlocked bootloader and a better screen.
However, I'd rather have a keyboard than have those ^ things without a keyboard .
It seems to run faster, and more smooth than my Droid X2. It's ugly though, and it will take some getting used to a physical keyboard again. I have it rooted, radiocom hacked. I want to tweak the camera, but the thread is confusing me a bit as to which zip to use, or which edits to make to build.pro and the XML file. I would prefer to edit rather than install a zip as I don't really want a bootstrap on the phone.
App Brain is making me frustrated though, since Fast Web Installer will not log in.
So far, I am loving this.
Another heartbreak. If D3 doesn't gets ICS by July, I'll let it go.
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I love my DROID 3, its a great phone with and has been holding me down for a while. But i am itching to try something different and really the development for DROID 3 is small. We have all these versions of ICS "gummy bear" or whatever and none of them have working camera or bluetooth. I know this is something that may or may not be able to be worked out, but what gives? Does anyone know if we'll ever have ICS on the DROID 3
I don't think that we will see a fully working ICS on this device anytime soon. The main thing that is missing from ICS for our phones are the HWCodecs. Without them, it will never be complete. Hashcode is having a hard time getting them to work. Also, all the ICS roms that you see out now are built from the same base so they all have the same problems.
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I love my DROID 3, its a great phone with and has been holding me down for a while. But i am itching to try something different and really the development for DROID 3 is small. We have all these versions of ICS "gummy bear" or whatever and none of them have working camera or bluetooth. I know this is something that may or may not be able to be worked out, but what gives? Does anyone know if we'll ever have ICS on the DROID 3
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Camera and front facing camera work on all builds.camcorder doesn't work.Bluetooth works on all builds, but sometimes you lose audio if you have Bluetooth on with no device connected.just cycle bt off and on in that case.
To answer your question, no we won't unless there's an ics leak for the d3.
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thanks for the responses guys, i didn't know BT worked on all versions..i almost never use my video camera feature, so not missing much there. So for me it can be a daily driver, once i fix something. Thanks guys
mindstate said:
thanks for the responses guys, i didn't know BT worked on all versions..i almost never use my video camera feature, so not missing much there. So for me it can be a daily driver, once i fix something. Thanks guys
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keep in mind Ffc only works for taking pictures.it doesn't do video at all.one additional non working feature is flash.
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keep in mind Ffc only works for taking pictures.it doesn't do video at all.one additional non working feature is flash.
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and by flash you mean flash video?
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and by flash you mean flash video?
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Nope.
mindstate said:
I love my DROID 3, its a great phone with and has been holding me down for a while. But i am itching to try something different and really the development for DROID 3 is small. We have all these versions of ICS "gummy bear" or whatever and none of them have working camera or bluetooth. I know this is something that may or may not be able to be worked out, but what gives? Does anyone know if we'll ever have ICS on the DROID 3
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The simple answer is: no, we won't. The long answer you can find on "hash of codes" blog.
The saddest thing is HASHCODE this in only one person on this planet who worked on ICS for D3
Like i sed before on other topic, its not a problem have a full wroking ICS on D3 but it take a lot of work
The same was with Milestone 1 and Gingerbread, Kabaldan do everything for milestone 1 even ICS
This is very very sad, because is a lot of people who will do everything for D3 but they dont have sufficient skills like Kabaldan / HasHcode and others etc.
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The saddest thing is HASHCODE this in only one person on this planet who worked on ICS for D3
Like i sed before on other topic, its not a problem have a full wroking ICS on D3 but it take a lot of work
The same was with Milestone 1 and Gingerbread, Kabaldan do everything for milestone 1 even ICS
This is very very sad, because is a lot of people who will do everything for D3 but they dont have sufficient skills like Kabaldan / HasHcode and others etc.
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When you're looking to weekend devs as your only source of code development on hardware less than a year old ... (xt860 was released in Canada august 4th 2011) it's a sign of a ****ty manufacturer. Hardware quality is there but w/out software/manufacturer support it's sort of useless.