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First of all forgive me if this question as been asked a million times but to be honest I'm finding the Dream section a mess.
Now onto my question.... I've rooted my G1 and I'm currently running JF 1.51 with hero skin, now I'm I correct that I will always be rooted as long as I stick to custom roms?
The other thing is when I go into recovery mode I get a message at the top of the screen something like "Unable to find /system/command/recovery.cmd" am I correct that means I'm unable to proform backups? which is no big deal for me.
Finally whats the deal with this new spl, do I really need it to run a hero ported rom? I only ask because in all my years flashing windows phones the spl is something you should flash once and leave alone to avoid errors that can brick your phone.
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
alritewhadeva said:
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
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Thanks for the fast reply, as for the recovery thing like I said I would never back anything up and restore it anyway (I've always started afresh with every new rom)
Now going back to the spl thing.... Ive already updated my radio to the latest so when I do finally go for a hero rom and do flash my spl is the new spl a custom one which will allow me to reflash back down to a non-hero rom? or do I have to go back to the orginal hardspl first?
The new SPL was released by haykuro and it allows you to have about 30 more mb of space on your system partition. It still allows you to flash non-hero ROMs as well as hero ROMs. Sorry for the slow response >.>
Thanks alritewhadeva everything is clearer now.
I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.
No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^
Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?
He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-
Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!
Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.
This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.
As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!
I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.
i have done quite a few searches on this and yet have found nothing so i hope i dont get reamed for posting this.
if someone has a link for this answer id be very thankful.
if not then PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN!!!!!!!
at the moment i am running drizzy hero rom. to do the update i did use the one touch root. on a second phone i did it manually. on both i added the hard spl and am running the RA v 1.2.1 recovery. I liked this ROM and wanted to see what bugs it had. after a few days i wanted to switch and try a different ROM I have dl most of the ROMs available and already have them on my sdcard once i did this no ROM would load except for Drizzy(new Vision v2.8). after trying a few things and accomplishing nothing i decided to redo EVERYTHING. unrooted my phone rooted again applied recovery made sure radio was to date and spl. and still nothing i cant even run the original jf1.5 that i was using before deciding to port. this issue is occuring on both phones. 1st phone was again done with one step root and the 2nd phone was done completly manually. I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to try these other roms SO PLEASE SOMEONE HELP. if you need more information on what i did with these phones ill gladly tell you step by step on what i did.
sorry for that.
I was using my G1 and also had a friends. On my g1 i used the one step root. I used the Instructions from The Unlocker.com. It uses flashrec.apk and also Amon Ra's recovery image. After that i went over to the How to Load a Custom ROM. same site. It asks you to check the Radio and the Spl. The radio is 2.22.19.26I and the spl used was the HARDSPL 1.33.2005.
Once i finished that i went and formated the sdcard to Fat32+Ext2+LinuxSwap also converted Ext2 to Ext3.Then I did-Move Dalvik Cache to SD. last 3 steps to speed up hero. after all of that I loaded 4 ROMS CyanogenMod ROM, jACXHeroSkiv Hero ROM v1.8, Drizzy’s NewVision TouchFlo ROM, and JF v1.5 Cupcake ROM. I have only flashed Drizzy's until last night.
I was unable to flash any other one and when i flashed back to drizzy I had problems loading it back but eventually loaded fully the issue was running the startup wizard it kept crashing. after a reboot it was ok.
Give us step by step on what you did and USE PARAGRAPHS
that whole thing looked like mumbo jumbo to me
put new lines where they belong to help separate out the steps you took
FIXED! thanks!
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FIXED! thanks!
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did you do a data wipe? you need to wipe going from hero to cupcake/donut
When I first did all of that I did. Am I supposed to data wipe everytime I switch the Rom?
hobbitton said:
When I first did all of that I did. Am I supposed to data wipe everytime I switch the Rom?
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when your using hero rom's, yes.
if your upgrading cupcake roms (ie cyan 4.0.4 to 4.1.9.2 ), no
If its not working, WIPE
you cant go from hero to cupcake without wiping and not expect a lot of problems. they cause too many issues.
hero roms use the data partition differently
also remember to wipe /system/sd/ to clear all of that out. pull your /system/sd/ to your computer first though
thanks you guys it helped alot
I just got a replacement G1 from Tmobile, for free bless their hearts, cause my headset is going to the crapper. I'm trying to update my raido to the 2_22_19_26I, as I did before with my first G1, so I can install the DangerSPL. I have tried with the stock recovery, Cyan's 1.4, and Amon-RA's 1.5.2 to install it, and each time, it goes about the update process as normal, asks me to reboot, I see the picture of the chip and then it takes me back to recovery.
Each time, though, I'm still at the 1_22_12_29. I check by turning on the phone, then Settings --> About Phone, and also by going into the SPL, still at the 1.
Any ideas?
EDIT: also I'm using the radio on HTC's developer website, so it's legit.
Uh, i'm not XDA police but i'm pretty sure this goes in Q&A.
You need a custom recovery before you can even upgrade the radio but are you on 1.5 doing the one-click?
One-click:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
"I have tried with the stock recovery, Cyan's 1.4, and Amon-RA's 1.5.2"
I've tried with many different recovery's.
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"I have tried with the stock recovery, Cyan's 1.4, and Amon-RA's 1.5.2"
I've tried with many different recovery's.
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When your in rec mode you must flash the radio while there, i heard the rec gets deleted if you dont update the radio when you install a recovery.
rec mode? please restate what you just said.
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rec mode? please restate what you just said.
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rec=recovery mode
The guide says flash the radio while your in recovery mode not after.
i've done the recommended one-click method, even went back and let my phone update itself back up to stock, but i still have radio 1.
jordancrockett said:
i've done the recommended one-click method, even went back and let my phone update itself back up to stock, but i still have radio 1.
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Can you load roms since you said you tried recoveries?
I can load everything, ROM's, SPL's, different recoveries, boot.img's.
I've tried updating the radio before I upgrade the SPL, after, with a stock recovery, or with Amon-RA's/Cyanogens. I don't know why it's not working.
jordancrockett said:
I can load everything, ROM's, SPL's, different recoveries, boot.img's.
I've tried updating the radio before I upgrade the SPL, after, with a stock recovery, or with Amon-RA's/Cyanogens. I don't know why it's not working.
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Donut roms(1.6) dont need the Haykuro or Hard SPL you can load roms with the one you have now.If you want to use hero or eclair then you'll need the radio and SPL.
Also if the radio is anything like the spl, don't use the trackball while flashing it
Another user and I, have this same issue with no solution, we have threads in dream q&a and dream general. I also used recovery flasher to gain root when I was on cupcake. My radio is older than yours though =/ if you can't find the threads ill post the links tmw, as I'm abt to sleep now..good luck hopefully we can all find a solution, or at least identify the source of the problem..
not sure if this will be of much help, but you can always try to revert back to the stock firmware using the dreaimg.nbh file and stock spl.
i had a friend who, like with your radio, couldn't flash the more recent custom recoveries.
whatever the reason was, i suggested that he just "unroot" and go back to android 1.0, stock spl, stock radio , whatever, and just re-root from there
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not sure if this will be of much help, but you can always try to revert back to the stock firmware using the dreaimg.nbh file and stock spl.
i had a friend who, like with your radio, couldn't flash the more recent custom recoveries.
whatever the reason was, i suggested that he just "unroot" and go back to android 1.0, stock spl, stock radio , whatever, and just re-root from there
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ust make sure when unroot you follow the instructions...somehow i bricked my first G1 when I was unrooting. Dont ask me how I did that but I did ha
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just make sure when unroot you follow the instructions...somehow i bricked my first G1 when I was unrooting. Dont ask me how I did that but I did ha
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haha, good point! when in doubt, just follow the guide!
this one, if you don't already have it,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
shows you how to "downgrade/un-root" your device.
happy flashing!
I apologize to sound rude, but I've been with XDA and the G1 rooting community since 1.0. I know these are good, helping tips and guides, but I've tried to explain that I've done everything like that already, gone back to stock, gone up to cyan's 4.2.13, gone back to stock, then up to a stock 1.6, even with the stock updates, when it says writing radio, radio doesn't update.
your replies are appreciated, just not really relevant or helpful.
I was setting up a friends g1 and same thing, he got the phone from warranty exchange and I was able to downgrade, gain root, change recovery image and flash enom's rom with no issue. But upon boot up I saw his radio image was .29 and tried to update the radio. I kept getting something like "line 2: getting prop(device = dream)"
So I started all over rc29, root, recovery image and every time I try to update radio, same issue. Even when use Cyan's method and try the developer's image with radio update, it fails.
In the end, since enom's rom can use any radio, he was ok with it. But really i wanted to get his g1 on the latest radio image. I feel your pain as I researched the errors as well and couldn't find anything. Good luck.
Fabe
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I was setting up a friends g1 and same thing, he got the phone from warranty exchange and I was able to downgrade, gain root, change recovery image and flash enom's rom with no issue. But upon boot up I saw his radio image was .29 and tried to update the radio. I kept getting something like "line 2: getting prop(device = dream)"
So I started all over rc29, root, recovery image and every time I try to update radio, same issue. Even when use Cyan's method and try the developer's image with radio update, it fails.
In the end, since enom's rom can use any radio, he was ok with it. But really i wanted to get his g1 on the latest radio image. I feel your pain as I researched the errors as well and couldn't find anything. Good luck.
Fabe
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Yeah, that's exactly what I'm going through, except it's not throwing up any errors or anything. it updates, says "writing radio image...", reboots with the HTC symbol, and goes back to Recovery and Formats the CACHE like always. *sigh* maybe T-mobile found a way to mess with us after all?
Just a question, when u rooted, did u do it the old way or new way. And by old way that I used, was the DREAIMG.nbh, then on home screen the type cd /sdcard blah blah...
Ok so lets start out by saying i know i am not bricked because i am able to get into fastboot as well as recovery. So this all started when i tried to move to CyanogenMod v4.2.13 . At 1st i was on Cyanongen 4.2.10 which i was having some problems on so i wanted to move to a new rom. I then went to flash xROM Eclair-v1.0 which went ok but then i started to get FCs and wanted to go back to Cyanogen roms. I then flashed the 4.2.13 rom and i am where i am not. Every time i have tried to re flash the the rom i have done a full wipe of both the phone and the EXT, but i get stuck on the G1 screen every time no matter what. I have let it seat there for 30 mins with no luck at all. Not sure what to try now. Any ideas would be great.
Here is what i am running right now.
Fastboot reads
Dream PVT 32B ENG S-Off
Hboot-1.33.2005
Radio-2.22.19.26I
I am running the RA recovery RA-Dream-v1.5.1
Any help would be great thanks.
Have you tried to downgrade with dream.nhg and reroot ? I'm sure therebis better method then this too I'm jus throwing idea out there would wait for this and some one with more experince to help out.
Also did you flash the 1.6 ota before cyan rom, just trying make it clear for future questions.. Also try a different rom suggest trying superd 1.2 it's super fast and very stable
No don't downgrade using dream.nbh it will downgrade the radio and kill your phone!
You already have the DangerSPL installed, so you can't downgrade the radio anymore.
Just try to flash a ROM which was made for the DangerSPL (also called DeathSPL, HaykuroSPL etc.)
Same problem-FREAKING OUT
Hi,
I think I have the same problem and I think my phone is bricked. A long time ago I changed the two splash screen pictures and not I can't event get past the first 1. I'm stuck at the first splash screen.
I just learned that everytime you want to flash cyan, you have to flash the radio 1.6, wipe then falsh the cyan rom. I think I did some mis steps and effed it up. PLEASE HELP.
I think I have the Danger SPL that sats Dream PVT 32B ENG S-Off, HBOOT 1.33.2005 (DREA10000), CPLD_4, Radio 2.22.19.26I, Apr 20 2009,15:30:43. I have JF 1.42 recovery and been trying to update to Cm recovery1.4 but have had no luck because of these problems.
How do you flash a rom from the SPL screen with the three android on skateboards. I just need to figure this out please.
IS MY PHONE DEAD?
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Hi,
I think I have the same problem and I think my phone is bricked. A long time ago I changed the two splash screen pictures and not I can't event get past the first 1. I'm stuck at the first splash screen.
I just learned that everytime you want to flash cyan, you have to flash the radio 1.6, wipe then falsh the cyan rom. I think I did some mis steps and effed it up. PLEASE HELP.
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Where did you read that... It's not true.
And no - your phone is most likely not "dead."
oh phew! what should I do now tho? I just hit camera and power and then hit back and reset the device by pushing send and that worked but now it won't start again.
Should I wipe and try the same spl thing again?
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No don't downgrade using dream.nbh it will downgrade the radio and kill your phone!
You already have the DangerSPL installed, so you can't downgrade the radio anymore.
Just try to flash a ROM which was made for the DangerSPL (also called DeathSPL, HaykuroSPL etc.)
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Wow thanks for saying thatt I did not see that danger spl was flashed! Good catch! So yes don't downgrade! I'm sure you can flash orinial spl again too..
What you can try is super d 1.6 that requires "danger spl"
how do we go about getting a super d 1.6? what is that?
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oh phew! what should I do now tho? I just hit camera and power and then hit back and reset the device by pushing send and that worked but now it won't start again.
Should I wipe and try the same spl thing again?
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To access recovery, hold Home + Power.
If you have a ROM on your SD card (the root), flash it (ALT + S i think it is.) If your ROM requires a wipe, ALT + W wipes.
Make sure you have the right Radio + SPL for whatever ROM you run.
JGo to the develop forums and look for super d 1.6 rom.. and flash it like any other rom.. wipe factory reset then flash any zip it requires danger spl so should for those that have it.. like said its really good and pretty well stable and blazing fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809
Oh i had a question,
when i take my sd card out and then go to the spl and reset the device, it worked. does that mean that there is something wrong with my sd card? If so do you know where there are instructions to reformat it?
hbguy said:
Oh i had a question,
when i take my sd card out and then go to the spl and reset the device, it worked. does that mean that there is something wrong with my sd card? If so do you know where there are instructions to reformat it?
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So you get passed the G1 screen? If you have a extra sd card that's not partation use that to flash your rom(make sure it'd formated to fat32) then when you get into a rom put your partation sd back in then go to settings and format sd card there then go into recovery Amon ra and repartation sd.. Jus a suggestion too you can reformat within recovery too I jus don't kno the commands
Well what i have been trying is to get 4.2.8 back since that has been the best rom i think Cyanogen has had out, but that doesn't even work when it has always been my backup rom. Well I am about to try Super D 1.6 will report back after it.
Edit: Well SuperD 1.6 flashed good and is running but why is it that no mater how many times i try i can't get CyanogenMod to flash ok when i was able to do it before.
Ooo I liked cyan roms but notice some lags after awhile use superd is great and well worth trying it
I figured it OUT! I think my sd card was courrupted or something because it wouldn't boot with the card in but when I took it out and booted using the Danger SPL like I described a few posts back, it worked and got past the first boot screen.
Then I flash cm_recovery_1.4.img but leaving it on the sd and reinserting the sd card when the phone booted. (Oh and I flashed cm 4.2.9.1 because I heard its the most stable)
Next I reformated my sdcard and then partitioned it using the following instructions from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714&highlight=partition+sd
Hope this helps anyone who has same problem. THANK YOU ILOST! Is yours working now too?
Forget the thread all is well again with Cyanogen Roms working. Turns out my SD card needed to be repartitioned but since i was at school all day. I wasn't able to get on a PC and download the ROM. Wonder why the card needed to be repartitioned, but whatever it works now thanks for taking the time to read the thread.
just flash the base rom then flash cyanogen!!!! or flash dwang!!!!!
Nice to hear PROD, I think you had the same problem that I had.
OKAY, now since I've been reflashing like crazy and lost ALL my old apps and imformation since I was using JF 1.5 before.
However, I backed up on nandroid before all this craze, does anyone know how to replace certain files like password safe or shipping list apps and daat on a new nandroid backup so then essentially all my old information can be on this new platform???
Well glad to see both you got working again! Congrats! Hope all will stat well I had this same problem continously. And I believe it's due to cheap / low class sdcards.. Usually when I flash from a different rom and I need to wipe, usually backup what's on sd and apps using titanium backup then format sdcard within phone the flash new rom after I repart it
Congrats to you ilost, you got this thread going well.
I used my backup but when I use that or nandroid then it replaces my recovery back to the old JF recovery and then I'm back at square one so I'm looking for a way to replace or insert certain old nandroid files into a new nandroid file.