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Hey peeps and SGS owners. How many of you get the usual "iPhone 4 just works," "the iPhone is so much faster," "iPhone don't feel buggy," and the infamous "why didn't you get iPhone 4 instead?" comments from iPhags around you? I personally get them almost everyday.
Jeez, leave us alone. I mean, really? It just works? I bet you spend an hour trying to sort your music files into iTunes. I merely drag and drop. It's faster? Yeah, cause it's simply app pages. I get that smoothness without widgets. Feel buggy? Well, guess what, I customise my whole system myself, kernels, filesystems, roms. Why I didn't get the iPhone? Cause I simply chose not to.
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Good night fellas. Sorry had some boosts and it's 4 in the morning now. I don't know, just a bad day.
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seriously dude....iphone 4 just works
(just tryin to screw around with your head )
Problem is, it doesn't.
You have to admit (and if u don't you you self are a fag) that iphones are good bits of kit and shouldn't be flamed just for being an "iphone". It's the users of iphones who are the novices who think if it aint an iphone it's junk
But saying that my boss brought me his iphone4 it was totally dead it was fine batt was almost full and just died. I then did a google and found litterally hundrends and hundreds of posts similar to the on below
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11766746
So when ppl tell u their phone is th dog bollox and nothing does compare then show em threads like above.
At the end of the day i can see the benefits of both systems.
People say iphones work, well yes they do. But that's because apple have locked the thing down so hard it doesn't get the chance not to work. Iphones were designed for people who just want stuff to work and be simple.
People say android is buggy, etc. Well yeah at certain times things don't work as planned. But it normally gets fixed in no time. And on the plus side android seems capable of much more than ios.
Iphone is for coffee shop gurus.
Android is for people more than computer literate.
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Ironically, most of the comments I got from iPhone's owner is: Good to see there's something else. But then, they know I wouldn't put my money on an apple thinggy!
And I agree that iPhone is for the "Wanabe" geek as a new gizmo to show off with.
Android is for the reel geeks that uses the thing!
I completely agree with OP hell I even had my grandad trying to say the Iphone 4 just worked so I just death gripped it soon shut him up plus showed him about a dozen apps you'd have to pay for the I phone equivalents that do just work gnu/gpl ftw
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Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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QFT my friend!
Wow, you guys are sensible. For once, I get comments that are not on a whole unjust to one side only. Haha. I don't hate iPhone 4, I just hate iOS and the users. I like the hardware though. Yeah, like communists. That's right!
And then, there's also jailbroken iPhone users. They think they are on top of the world with jailbreak.
How does this thread end up in Q&A? There should be a miscellaneous section for SGS users.
I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
Android are easy use but if you have to mod everything yourself, its very technical but possible. Thats why thanks to people here, most of the hard yack are already done for you.
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Maddmatt said:
I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time.
Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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Good post, okpc +1
It's not so much that android is for more technical people, but rather, it's for more adventurous people. Sure, the iphone has its jailbreak, but even the freedom that affords is limited. With android, the potential for personal customization is as limited as your uber-geek skills.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
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It's simple if you have apple gear.. The moment you have any flacs or other formats, things get tricky.
I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
When iphone users look at my galaxy s they normally say "it's very like the iphone" to which I always reply "yah it is....... Only better"
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Good that people have a choice nowadays ....
There was a time where no smartphone could compete with the iPhone, even after it been over 2 years on the market.
But you can say whatever you want about Apple .. they have a very sophisticated sense for clean and functional design. Be it the hardware or the software. They have very strict design guidelines, and thats the reason the apps are often looking more polished.
So, for people who are very visually-orientated, iPhone would be a natural choice. For the tech-savy folks, Android is the clear winner.
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I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
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LOL that last part! Too excited huh... XD
Oh yeah, I was a iPhone user as well. Dated back to iPod Video era, then to iPod 2G, iPhone 3GS, but I skipped iPhone 4, that's when Android came in. People start to realise that there are other smartphones worth keeping, not symbian btw.
I am new to android and the NC is my first device with the OS. I currently have a Storm 1 on Verizon and I hate it. I love Verizon's network but hate hate hate my phone. I'm out of contract and ready for a new phone.
With all the Verizon iPhone rumors, I'm conflicted. Do I get an iPhone when it most likely arrives on Verizon or an android phone that is already there to go along with the NC?
I'm asking this here as you all seem to know so much about android and the NC. I want to tether whatever phone I get to the NC. I'm a mac user solely and like the compatibility there and would have gotten an iPhone immediately a year ago. Now, after experiencing android, I'm not so sure anymore that I even need or want the iPhone.
What are your thoughts on the two paths in regards to phone/NC compatibility and also to a Mac/phone/NC relationship? I really want to sync data between all three fairly seamlessly. Would having devices running different OS's make things too tough or are there enough cross platform apps and functionality to make it not matter?
I fully understand that the NC's capabilities are a long ways from being fully tapped. This might also be moot as both probably can serve my purposes. Figured I would pick your brains and experiences.
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I have a Mac, iPhone 4 and NC right now and love all three. Apple's stuff are sexy and reliable but closed off. Android is less mature and lacks polish but has so much more potential. When I'm ready for my next phone, I'll look long and hard at an Android. If you like to.customize, I'd say go android. But I love my iPhone. You'll need to jailbreak it to unleash its potential.
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This is exactly my setup, Mac, iPhone, NC. Syncing, one word - Dropbox. There is entire cottage industry around Dropbox, your Mac, and iOS devices. I don't think you'll be hard pressed to find exactly what you need right there.
But out of curiosity what are you going to be using the NC for, light word, excel type documents, pdf's? I use mine mostly to read ebooks/pdf's, 90%. There are a lot of things in the cloud that are fairly platform agnostic, Evernote comes to mind and different calendar sync apps. Just iTunes search for various one's to sync with google if want it to go with your NC.
As far as Verizon and iPhone, we'll just have to wait. In the US we have it bad, as iPhone (limited by att) does not tether. It's shocking, because in the rest of the world people tehter their iPhones.
I'd say go with iPhone, best of all worlds here, Mac, iOS with iPhone, and Android with the NC. What's not to love, you have it all. That's speaking as a Mac user of course.
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I'd say go with iPhone, best of all worlds here, Mac, iOS with iPhone, and Android with the NC. What's not to love, you have it all. That's speaking as a Mac user of course.
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Same. I love my i4 and I also love playing around with my rooted NC, I wish the phone could just dual boot both OS and I could be content with that magic phone for the rest of my life.
Each has his/her own preferences, it's really what you're looking for . . . I'd recommend spending time with a rooted android phone--not just the NookColor--before making a decision.
We're doing some amazing stuff here with the NookColor--considering what we started with--but this is barely scratching the surface of development on a device that's still running an eReader's stock ROM for crying out loud. That's not even to mention that it's based on (in tech years) an ancient version of android.
If you spend some time with a rooted Evo, Nexus S, or Droid X running a cyanogen ROM, I wouldn't even remotely say android is immature or lacks polish compared to iOS. If anything, I'd say it's the other way around.
I'm a former iPhone 4 and iPad owner, and I much prefer both my HTC Evo and the NookColor (even in its relatively primitive stage of development) over both of them (Plants vs Zombies is the only thing I miss, and it'll be on Android soon).
They say opinions are like a-holes: everybody has one . . . If that's the case, people having a-holes makes the world go 'round, because android would be much less interesting without iOS, and vice versa. I'd say go to stores where you can play with each OS' flagship devices for a while, check out the best each has to offer, and find what works for you.
I would actually say that stock android is better than stock iOS. But until android can support encryption out of box, I can't make the full switch because I can't sync with work.
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As usual, ask a question like this and you will end up getting every response possible if you wait long enough.
I know folks who love their Iphones and tether with them here in the US. Jailbroken, or whatever its called and some custom stuff, of course. So I don't think that needs to be an issue in the choice.
Android phones have excellent qualities out of the box though, and once they start being rooted and rom'd- fantastic, as far as I am concerned. The ability to customize and make them YOURS instead of the CARRIERS (at least in function and appearance) is far and beyond anything I have seen on an Apple phone.
There are some advantages to either, as always- if you are on the fence then I too would suggest trying to "spend some time" with both and see if that helps make the decision.
I appreciate all the responses. I know that everybody is different, but it's still nice to hear others experiences regarding their setup.
I an an architect by trade and my mac is my lifeline to do all my drawings and graphics, etc. I'd be lost without it. I won't be a hardcore user with all three phone/mac/NC in regards to work. I mainly want email, music, movies, contacts, calander, etc. to be able to be sync'ed between all devices. I make a change in one and I can update in all three.
I've been playing with both iPhones and rooted Android phones and it really is a tossup. I do like the idea of having the iPhone so if there are special iOS apps, I can get it and have the NC for any special Android apps. Best of both worlds. I also really have to wait and see how the Verizon iPhone will be. I'll play with it in store for awhile before I make a choice.
Then the next question is do I wait for the 4G Android phones to come out on Verizon? I'm content to wait until late 1st quarter 2011 until the dust settles on some of this. I just wanted to get some feedback from people on how their NC's are working with their phones, iPhone and Android.
Do you still like the android platform?
or will be you next phone windows phone 8 os or iphone (ios)?
Never
I will never stop loving android and hate apple fanboys.
i have tried both windows phone 7 and ios, and they are very unique and interesting to use. But after a while u will start to get bored using the same old platform and i think android is the same. I heard Mozilla has released a "firefox os" and written based on HTML5 or so. Looking forward to it ^^
I also like and will still like Android.
Windows and iOS are so "closed" and so "B* I'M FABULOUS!" ... where changing wallpaper is max of your coustomization possibilities
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I also like and will still like Android.
Windows and iOS are so "closed" and so "B* I'M FABULOUS!" ... where changing wallpaper is max of your coustomization possibilities
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Agreed.
I've been using a lumia 800 for a couple of days and frankly i think i could get enogh of it soon
Also forming part of a community of people wanting to develop tweak and wanting more from your phone means something, at least to me, i recently realized that i like all the rooting, trying new roms, tweaks, scripts, customization and contributing to this community, i don't see the other 2 platforms giving me the same
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Never
I will never stop loving android and hate apple fanboys.
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loving a platform and hating the fanboys are two entirely different things. lol.
i too hate the "iFans", but the OS's fluidity is just amazing "NOW" (after flash is not going to be supported on droids too. a sad case because still now 70% of all websites use flash and not HTML5 ). there are a few common games for both the platforms. try and play both simultaneously. the iOS handles them reallllllyyy wellllll.
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Agreed.
I've been using a lumia 800 for a couple of days and frankly i think i could get enogh of it soon
Also forming part of a community of people wanting to develop tweak and wanting more from your phone means something, at least to me, i recently realized that i like all the rooting, trying new roms, tweaks, scripts, customization and contributing to this community, i don't see the other 2 platforms giving me the same
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now, i hafta differ. android is great. i bought back my OB from my frnd whom i had sold it off, because i just LOVE android customizablility. BUT, i also have bought a lumia 710 (it's 90% lumia 800, save for the camera, extra storage and the screen tech) and gotta say i kind of like it better than the android platform.
WP7 has a few nice things up it's sleeve. first and best is battery life. lumia 710 is having a 1300 MAh battery, yet gives me about 2 days with 2g always on (that means syncing SNS and live tiles all the time), about 4/5hours of music, few snaps, etc. also, the level of SNS integration is just mindblowing. maybe there are less apss and games, but i actually don't play much. line birds, line runner as games and the super awesome "photosynth" app, a toggle app, a live card and a doc scanner. dats all. nokia also has given 2 nice apps as "camera extras" and "creative studio". all to say, am really really REALLY satisfies with the WP7.5 (and with 7.8 the homescreen is gonna be much better )
am using it for less than a week and already by OB has turned into my 2nd phone.
and mind you, there ARE a couple o' ROMs for the lumias at xda.
i've tried my friends' iphones and windows mobiles for about a week each
the iphones are damn smooth(sometimes they have slight lags)
windows mobile am fed up then when i see, those platforms aren't for me
they are too monotone to me
i love my android and am now using it as it was created for(games, emails, youtube, homework, camera, facebook, skype)
when i feel like buying another phone, i think about mine and say to myself...will i really use those features?
then i look at mine and remember the day i bought it and its wonderful features
no, i'll stay android if ios7 is still like this
I like Android very much!!! Very customizable, and it's getting better and better
Time for Android
Pros:
Very customizable
Updated quite often
Has a lot of features
Custom roms, themes, etc
Flash support! Though Flash for mobile will be soon discontinued by Adobe :/
Android exists among all types of phones; low,mid and high-range phones, therefore it is very flexible in terms of budget/choice of the customers.
And so on
Now, the Cons:
Not well fragmented; lag exists & it has quite a lot of problems compared to other OSes
Does not support many games, compared to iOS
Laggy browsing experience with ANY browsers.
The OS sometimes require powerful phones to run smoothly, thus making more expensive phones better, and cheap phones worse.
Your android powered phone can be easily bricked and has more software issues than other OSes; this is because building Android for 1000s of phones is really not easy, while iOS and WP7 are supported by very few devices, making the development of the OS very easy and better.
And MANY more
Now turn to iOS
Pros:
Very well fragmented; a 600Mhz device can run very smoothly.
Has very low software issue.
HTML5 support, super smooth browsing experience ahead!
Very hard to brick an iPod/iPhone lol
Games, games, GAMES!
Has featured apps which are quite useful (Siri, iMessage, etc)
iOS have a more professional look than Android, but less than WP7.
Super easy to use! Even my 3 year old niece can use it.
Has free cloud storage by default
And many more...
iOS is not without cons:
Can be extremely boring for some people.
no customization, unless you jailbreak, which still allows you less customization than Android.
Supported only by iPod/iPhone, restricting consumer choices/
Software updates makes older devices obsolete and outdated, forcing customers to buy new iPod/iPhones.
Apple = purely marketing... People buy iPhones blindly XD
No bluetooth file transfer to other devices!!
And so on...
I didn't not really used a WP7 powered phone, but from what I see, it is a very good and fluid OS!
Pros:
So much simplicity, so fluid, so COOOL!
Damn it runs at 60fps like all the freaking time! Practically no lags. - Extremely well fragmented.
Perfect to impress others lol, the OS is very well presented and looks like a premium OS.
More customization than Apple's iOS
HTML5 support, super smooth browsing experience ahead!
Xbox User can use Xbox Live on their WP7 Phone!
Has free cloud storage by default
Easy to use.
WP7 phones gets major software updates.
Now the Cons (there may be more):
No bluetooth file transfer! Just like iOS
Not as customizable as Android.
For some, the UI can be very boring.
And some more...
If I had to decide which is the best Operating System for phones, it would have been extremely hard!!
To simplify the decision I would divide it into categories:
In terms of Choice, Functionality and Customization; ANDROID
In terms of Apps, Stability and Ease; iOS
In terms of Fluidity, Professionalism and Ease; Windows Phone 7
I am not surprised to be using a WP7 phone in the future as I like the UI so much.
I think im going to use wp 8 if it come our or wp 9
for the future, it's unpredictable all os are good
ios and wp are said to be fluid and here comes jelly bean
its to your taste
i myself dont know what i'll really buy next time
but i prefer ios or android
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for the future, it's unpredictable all os are good
ios and wp are said to be fluid and here comes jelly bean
its to your taste
i myself dont know what i'll really buy next time
but i prefer ios or android
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Idont like that some android device dont get update but the can handel it google need to say something about it because a iphone with lower specs than a iphone 4s is slower or the same speed
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Before I got the nexus 5 I was debating going back to ios. Now a month later that idea seems crazy to me. I am still in awe and shock about the functionality of this phone. I simply did not even think this level of customization was possible. Sometimes I get so excited when an iphone user asks me why I use android because I get to explain to them all the different functions. But in most cases I find it confuses them more than interest them. But that's fair, to each their own.
xposed framework and gravitybox are the only customizations I have put on this phone. And together with swiftkey, nova launcher, and the vanilla android this thing is a force to be reckoned with. 4.4.1 made the camera so much better and honestly at this point I can say this phone has gone above and beyond every single one of my expectations for a $700 phone, let alone 400.
Lastly, I just wanted to thank the xda community, you guys are f'ing awesome and the amount of support for this phone is unbelievable. And it's all done voluntarily and free of charge (although I feel everyone should donate). Consider my mind blown.
Have you tried the app Tasker?
If you like technical things and playing around with the phone that app is gold.
>To each their own
My programming-teacher uses apple products, which kinda surprised me at first. But he explained, that even though android may be more functional, you need to invest quite a lot of time for it to be really as customizable as people say - Time, that he as a teacher can't really spend. He'll rather spend 300$ more and have a phone that 'just works'. And indeed, from what I can tell, an uncustomized Android KitKat is pretty lame, even compared to iOS.
I'm comming from an SGS2 with CM 10.2 and I was actually pretty shocked how little an unrooted stock Android offers. Now, after investing some hours in driver issues, unlocking, rooting, searching for a good rom and flashing that, with several backups along the way, I'm really happy with my phone. But not everyone can or want to invest that much time or even has the expertise to do it.
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>To each their own
My programming-teacher uses apple products, which kinda surprised me at first. But he explained, that even though android may be more functional, you need to invest quite a lot of time for it to be really as customizable as people say - Time, that he as a teacher can't really spend. He'll rather spend 300$ more and have a phone that 'just works'. And indeed, from what I can tell, an uncustomized Android KitKat is pretty lame, even compared to iOS.
I'm comming from an SGS2 with CM 10.2 and I was actually pretty shocked how little an unrooted stock Android offers. Now, after investing some hours in driver issues, unlocking, rooting, searching for a good rom and flashing that, with several backups along the way, I'm really happy with my phone. But not everyone can or want to invest that much time or even has the expertise to do it.
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Not to turn this into an IOS vs Android debate, but I no longer root or flash my nexus devices because I also want a device that 'just works'. With that said stock Android 'just works' these days. My devices are perfectly stable and do more than I desire even while 100% stock.
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Yeah, without going flamewar and all that... I definitely think Android 4.0 and above on it's own is fine for the normal user just as much as iOS is. I don't feel like I NEED to do mods, they are just convenience or to more taylor the phone to how I want to use it. There are plenty of things that open your eyes to doing things a different way once you know about it. I think this is the general problem with ANY user, people just don't like change so if they got into the mentality of Windows or iOS then changing to another way is seen as cumbersome and time wasting when in reality it could be better. Hell if we all still were using DOS 6.22 we wouldn't be able to get some things done as fast as we do today and all that's possible because of change.
As said though, I don't try forcing people to anything specific. My wife has and likes Android devices, my mom has a Galaxy 3 and few of my friends has an iPhone 5 or Lumias all recommended by me.
As for the phone itself, i'm loving mine as well. I've had tons of phones from tons of different companies. I had Windows Mobile to Blackberry (old Bold and Curves, not new stuff) to Windows Phone to Android to Windows Phone to iOS to Android. I liked my Samsung Blackjack tons but definitely loving this phone more than my last Android devices (Nexus 4, HTC One, SGS3, SGS2, HTC Inspire HD, Nexus One, T-Mobile G1). Right now i'm pretty content even though the Moto G and X are pulling at me....
I bought a Xperia Z1 and I'm spending more time on Nexus 5 board
Welcome to the Android fold again without turning this into a flame war just got my black Nexus 5 days 3 ago and I'm totally loving it coming from HTC I do not miss sense at all i agree that android has finally caught up with ios in terms of being functional out of the box and very nice to look at also. Great time to be an android user.
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I've tried pretty much all of the roms for the N4 and N5. I'm happy now with stock 4.4.1 and Gravitybox. I've got all the tweaks I want really. I dread to think how much time i've spent flashing roms on this awesome phone instead of actually using it. It must be contagious though, my girlfriend just got an HTC One after years of being an iSheep
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>To each their own
My programming-teacher uses apple products, which kinda surprised me at first. But he explained, that even though android may be more functional, you need to invest quite a lot of time for it to be really as customizable as people say - Time, that he as a teacher can't really spend. He'll rather spend 300$ more and have a phone that 'just works'. And indeed, from what I can tell, an uncustomized Android KitKat is pretty lame, even compared to iOS.
I'm comming from an SGS2 with CM 10.2 and I was actually pretty shocked how little an unrooted stock Android offers. Now, after investing some hours in driver issues, unlocking, rooting, searching for a good rom and flashing that, with several backups along the way, I'm really happy with my phone. But not everyone can or want to invest that much time or even has the expertise to do it.
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In all fairness, if somebody knows what they're doing you can root, add a custom recovery, xposed framework and gravitybox in probably less than half an hour. I would also argue that the stock android with nova launcher is more functional than the current ios. I would have completely agreed with you a couple of years ago, iphones just worked. But with the new android hardware and kitkat, the platform is just as stable an snappy as ios.
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My programming-teacher uses apple products, which kinda surprised me at first. But he explained, that even though android may be more functional, you need to invest quite a lot of time for it to be really as customizable as people say - Time, that he as a teacher can't really spend. He'll rather spend 300$ more and have a phone that 'just works'. And indeed, from what I can tell, an uncustomized Android KitKat is pretty lame, even compared to iOS.
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Since the advent of "Project Butter"and 4.2.x Jelly Bean, Pure Android phones no longer need to be rooted or fully customized for the average user to have an excellent mobile experience as they work quite well out of the box, so what your programming teacher states is just wrong. And the fact of he being a teacher, doesn't necessarily means he has deep knowledge about the features of every mobile OS out there.
Even though iOS and Android theoretically belong to the same OS family (Unix-Like), the concept of the iPhone and the Nexus are different as night and day.
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Welcome to the Android fold again without turning this into a flame war just got my black Nexus 5 days 3 ago and I'm totally loving it coming from HTC I do not miss sense at all i agree that android has finally caught up with ios in terms of being functional out of the box and very nice to look at also. Great time to be an android user.
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+1 My first nexus and am absolute amazed
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i rally like this phone. i'm sick of custom roms. people get too excited on xda for new things and don't realy remain objective. i don't know why the nexus (after the update, i know it has a few issues but it's pretty amazing now) would be a disapointment to anyone. there were great phones in the past and the nexus might not be that much better than an older phone in ways that matter but disapointment is harsh...
it's like in the military we used to say the best to bases are where you are going the the place you'd just come from. people rarely talk about the place they are now. when you get pcs'd every one tell you about they experiences they had there and build it up to be a real adventure. but when you get there all you have to talk about is your old friends at your old place maybe convincing someone going the other way it's better too. it's just human nature really...
as far as the arguments about apple "just working" well it does... so does your stock rom on your android.. it's nonsensical... it's not a reason not to chose android, but with that mentality there is no reason not to chose apple either.. so to each their own. just don't make it out to be that apple is soo much better in that regard.
a lot of android frustration is from people chosing the wrong mods to use.. i mean there are odex files on a stock phone for a reason... odex roms save space in data and are generally smoother running. deodexing and decompiling/recompiling often breaks things that might be minor but if you wonder why your android doens't run like ios... well it's probably not googles fault..
i had nexus 3 nexus 4 and niw nexus 5 my future device will be nexus 6 / i have an advice : if u want android for first time taste it only on NEXUS devices other android phones like Samsung , HTC , or etc...are piece of sh....t ! trust me
4.4.1 for the N5 is so good I just installed v4a for enhancing the headphones sound, everything else remains as stock. Great phone, one of the best i've had.
I would never criticize someone who chooses apple products. I use both platforms (android for phones, and apple for tablets) and enjoy using each device... yes, I actually love my ipad. Without competition, android would have stagnated ages ago... the best thing for android is apple, and the best thing for apple is android (from the perspective of the consumer).
Given that, I don't really see a fault with nexus devices. They are the most well-rounded android device you can find.
For the average user, it gets updates like clockwork and has a MUCH cleaner interface than OEM skins. Samsung is the worst when it comes to software that seems really really rough around the edges, it seems like their developers each work on their own part without really communicating with each other. To top it off, keeping a nexus fully stock is a rock solid experience.
For tinkerers and geeks, it also shines as the Godzilla-size dev community on a nexus produces absolute gold, with some very unique tweaks that cant be found on any other device. The latest version of android with all the tools to do whatever you want with it is a devs/geeks dream device.
It amuses me when people criticize the nexus devices and their users... then turn around and complain when their year-behind version of android OTA is delayed, not up to date with nexus devices, and comes with enough bloat to fill a landfill...or complain about how their carrier fixed the exploit they used to get root.
Looked on the play store but can't figure out what V4a is.
Viper audio for Android isn't it?
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For me tablet = apple and phone is Android. Best of both world
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While i agree that rooting and getting everything how youd like does take some time and reading, using a toolkit it can all be accomplished within 15-20 minutes. However, stock android has gotten so good, that i wish Google would ask manufacturers to give us the option of running stock android out of the box. I had a n5, found a deal on an LG G2 so i returned the nexus. while the hardware on the G2 was amazing, the UI was fugly and slow. Rooted and on aosp, still wasnt as smooth as the N5, which brought me back.
deserthi said:
Looked on the play store but can't figure out what V4a is.
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pepdavies said:
Viper audio for Android isn't it?
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Yes it's viper4android and it enhances the sound to another level.
Hi,
I've rooted my HTC One but it still feels so limited, I had the Iphone last year and decided to go for Android next, and now I wish I stayed with IOS because there are a lot more you can do on IOS once you jailbreak it.
So now I want just a feel of IOS again, are there any ROMS that are like IOS? All the ones I've seen is basically the same as stock.
And thanks.
kazhium said:
Hi,
I've rooted my HTC One but it still feels so limited, I had the Iphone last year and decided to go for Android next, and now I wish I stayed with IOS because there are a lot more you can do on IOS once you jailbreak it.
So now I want just a feel of IOS again, are there any ROMS that are like IOS? All the ones I've seen is basically the same as stock.
And thanks.
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You could try MIUI its very iOS like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514595 or use a launcher that mimics ios Ive seen a few on the play store before.
kazhium said:
Hi,
I've rooted my HTC One but it still feels so limited, I had the Iphone last year and decided to go for Android next, and now I wish I stayed with IOS because there are a lot more you can do on IOS once you jailbreak it.
So now I want just a feel of IOS again, are there any ROMS that are like IOS? All the ones I've seen is basically the same as stock.
And thanks.
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Not sure how you think there is more you can do but as advised you can get the looks of ios with miui and that's about it.
use MIUI its very nice rom sure you will love it and PS : ANDROID IS NOT LIMITED AT ALLLLLLL!!!!!
iOS is but i love the both of them.