Related
Hello everyone,
Alright, I've just updated my phone to the latest version Androind 2.2.1 JPY.
I was following the guide for installing Darky's ROM, but my pc doesn't show anything when I connect my phone.
I have up-to-date drivers.
When my phone was on 2.1 JM2 it was working.
I have no idea what the problem is.
I really appreciate the help and thanks in advance.
-Mick
Hi i have a similar problem, i have to connect it about 3 times for it to recognise, i am on darkys rom. anyway try this:
go into settings - wireless + networks - USB settings and select ask on connection. then try it again.
I'm not on Darky's rom yet since I can't connect to my PC.
I've just tried that a couple of times but didn't work.
does the phone connect when in download mode ? try a re flash if it does...
It does not, it also doesn't show up in Odin.
does the pc make any sounds when usb is connected ?? are you sure its not the usb cable thats at fault here ??
No sound at all. But like I said, it worked when I was on 2.1. So it's not the USB cable.
Uninstall Kies .
Reboot and reinstall Kies to give you USB drivers .
If your phone works and is set to USB mode Mass Storage connect cab;e and windows will pick up phone .
jje
Just tried it, but it didn't work.
try a stock rom
I am on a stock rom. A fresh JPY 2.2.1.
Still stuck with this problem.
have you tried a different port on the PC ? if that doesnt work u will have to try another cable to find out if its the phone or not... have u done factory reset in recovery
Yes, I've tried all the ports on my PC.
The cable is fine, because it worked just before I updated.
I'm going to try a factory reset right now.
EDIT:
Factory reset didn't work. Should I try a re-flash?
EDIT2:
Just remembered I can't do a re-flash since I can't connect to my PC whatsoever.
Did I brick my phone?
I have the same issues but I have flashed several roms none the less. I gave up on the PC after serveral PC's and several days. I think it may be a usb hardware issue as I did connect to Kies once and the PC once but then I tried the next day and I've never gotten it back on despite countless driver reinstalls, android SDK adb attempts, odin, heimdall etc...
So to flash I first installed clockwork mod as an update.zip (put it in the root folder, then boot up in recovery - you'll need 3 button mode working I think). This was in the instructions for the first VoodooDoctor rom I flashed.
I also highly recomend also getting steam recovery (mine was part of a rom so I don't know the XDA link) as it allows flashing roms that are stored on the SD card. which is handy for me as that is the only way to get something on the phone if the flash goes sideways and I didn't already have it in the root folder. It is accessible now as the update.zip in my root folder and so I can run it from clockwork.
Clockwork allows you to flash from the phone - no odin needed. Steam does the same but steam is newer so I've mainly stuck with CWM except when I had to figure out a way to fix a bad flash....
I made this post about my near death (of my sgs)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929020
I'd still stick with the tried and true as its a little nerve racking to flash knowing that you need some function on the phone to recover but if you are dying to try a good tested custom rom I'd encourage you do so.
G
Hey all:
So i tried flashing back to 2.1 yesterday on my i897 Cappy so that I could root the phone. Got the boot-loop of the flashing charging/ or if not plugged in the rebooting AT&T world phone screen.
I build a jig and got to the download screen, but Odin and cmd "adb devices" cannot find my phone.
I have the samsung drivers installed and all, and cant figure out how my computer can see my phone when its only in DL mode.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
follow up
A little bit more info:
I've tried with 2 computers now with the drivers and odin-oneclick to see if the device would be recognized, but so far nothing. I've also tried everything else under the sun i've seen on different posts/forums, but nothing works (ex. pulling battery and re-doing the jig-2-download mode, re-installing drivers, etc)
If anyone has any clue please help thanks
Plug into a port on the back of computer (#1 on a laptop). Reboot the computer. Open Odin before plugging in phone. If on a win 7 or vista machine, run Odin as administrator. Download Kies (full version, not mini) and go into tools to install those drivers. Make sure you have a good cable. That's every suggestion I have. Hope one helps.
going to give it a wack now
flashed back to 2.1 successfully... thanks for the help.. odin run as admin, but could not be one-click... that was my problem..
One click will not see the device if it is boot-looped, but if you download full odin it sees it.
Also, dont know if this was a fix/problem, but the sim card had to be removed.
Thanks for the help!
/gettin cyogen now .. will post how it goes
Hello xda users,
I need HELP !
I have a galaxy tab P1000
currently froyo 2.2
wanted to upgrade to GB
Tried the Odin way from another link on this site (MANUAL updation for galaxy tab(p1000) into 2.3.3 gingerbread ), it failed and the Tab got soft bricked,
somehow managed to unbrick it, now its back to its original fw, but it keeps restarting in a loop until i switchd the damn thing off completely
I have tried to go in download mode to flash but odin doesnt recognise it , tried differnt computers too, no use.
I have gone in recovery mode, hard reset, wipe cache , still when i switch it on, it goes in a reboot loop.
tried to use heimdall. cant get sucess as i might not understand how to use it properly
Please help.
Sincere thanks to you if you can help me get my tab up and running., if not in GB atleast back in froyo.
(PS- i im not worried about my data , and i have not backed up the rom etc before doing any of these)
Try to reinstall or install a usb driver from samsung
tried that before , didnt work
anyway now i managed to get it detected on ODIN and flashed it to GB
Libon
Yeah, happened to me too, nearly had a sh*t my pants when Odin didn't recognise my Tab.
I would recommend -
charge the Tab fully using wall adapter (4 hrs+)
plug it in with Odin open and using USB cable
don't expect Odin to recognise the Tab immediately
check back after 5 mins or so (I don't know, does Odin refresh?)
I was able to restore my Tab from the PC - ! - Marvin screen.
I don't want to go back there again though!
yea dude.. same here
i kept it on charge for a couple of hours and then tried.. bam it conencts..
Libon
Tab not turning on
HI Guys I have Galaxy 1000 .I was updating it by using kies in between the process my computer shut down and when I am trying to connect my tab again its not turning on .can some one help me please ?
Waiting no charge baterry 2 3 j
Run odin
Connect tab . Wait Long time 20 30min
Tab is. Détect go flashing
Sorry for my english
I m.. French
Envoyé depuis mon GT-P1000
GT P1000 Odin wont detect
hi guys can you help me on my GT P1000 odin wont detect it even after 2-3hrs. tried everything but odin wont detect my device.
thanks in advance...
iamkakers said:
hi guys can you help me on my GT P1000 odin wont detect it even after 2-3hrs. tried everything but odin wont detect my device.
thanks in advance...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do u have samsung kies installed in your pc? if does, kill the kies process (Ctrl+Alt+Del). close, and open odin3, put your tab into download mode, and then plug it into usb port. try to change different ports.
i always had this problems.. if all if that didn't work, i'll format my pc
Sent from my GT-P1000
odin3
hi
i also have a gt p1000 and odin3 doesnt detect the tab. i've been trying to root my tab for a while, tried odin and it doesnt detect, tried doomlord and it doesnt even get past the first step. i tried uninstalling kies on my windows 8 laptop and still no luck im not too sure what to do. is there something that i might be doing wrong because i follow all the info thati get from here.
is there another rooting app i can try that doesnt brick my device? and or is there an app that i can get that i am able to use a ps3 controller on my device that does not require a rooted device. please help
thanks
My Galaxy tab also doesn't connect to usb after cache wiped humber os flash
Thanks in advance guys!..
Earlier I was using Cyanogen mode 10 Custom ROM but has few issues like recognize SD card.
later I flashed to Humber OS caused real problem.
It was clock work recovery installed but my tab tab boots stays on screen humber OS.
It goes to recovery mode, and also to some unknown recovery mode.
Either the way not recognized by computer. I tried all options like heimtal an Odin. No help.
Friends any help, would be highly appreciated.
BUMP
Any solution to this given the fact that usb drivers have been installed?
Are you sure it is recognised by the computer before trying Odin or Heimdall?
I seen this in a post:
#################################################################################
4 Reasons Why Odin is Not Detecting Your Android Device:
Reason 1: No drivers installed for your phone
Most of the time Odin is not able to detect your phone, simply because you haven’t installed the drivers for your phone. Normally windows would automatically download the respective drivers for your phone from the internet and install it. But in case it isn’t able to do so, you need to download the drivers from your phone manufacturer’s website.
Reason 2: Inferior quality or damaged USB cable
Odin is very sensitive to low quality or damaged USB cables, which is a major reason why odin will detect your android phone in file transfer mode but fail to detect it in download mode. You might have a genuine USB cable that came with your Android phone but with time its quality will depreciate, which is why you might have to get a new USB cable.
Reason 3: Odin is corrupted
This happened once with a reader on my blog, we tried everything to solve his problem, but in the end using a different version of Odin worked out for him.
Reason 4: USB port is defective
Defective USB ports can also be a reason for Odin not detecting your Android phone. This was a problem faced by one of my readers and plugging the USB cable in another USB port worked out for him.
#######################################################################
and I need install cwm recovery on a twrp recovery and just do that with this app:
ROM Manager
if you want do same job; you can download it from google play easily!
and install recovery,rom or restore backup with it.
farza(db)astany said:
I seen this in a post:
#################################################################################
4 Reasons Why Odin is Not Detecting Your Android Device:
Reason 1: No drivers installed for your phone
Most of the time Odin is not able to detect your phone, simply because you haven’t installed the drivers for your phone. Normally windows would automatically download the respective drivers for your phone from the internet and install it. But in case it isn’t able to do so, you need to download the drivers from your phone manufacturer’s website.
Reason 2: Inferior quality or damaged USB cable
Odin is very sensitive to low quality or damaged USB cables, which is a major reason why odin will detect your android phone in file transfer mode but fail to detect it in download mode. You might have a genuine USB cable that came with your Android phone but with time its quality will depreciate, which is why you might have to get a new USB cable.
Reason 3: Odin is corrupted
This happened once with a reader on my blog, we tried everything to solve his problem, but in the end using a different version of Odin worked out for him.
Reason 4: USB port is defective
Defective USB ports can also be a reason for Odin not detecting your Android phone. This was a problem faced by one of my readers and plugging the USB cable in another USB port worked out for him.
#######################################################################
and I need install cwm recovery on a twrp recovery and just do that with this app:
ROM Manager
if you want do same job; you can download it from google play easily!
and install recovery,rom or restore backup with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
reason 1: my phone is samsung and it's detected by ODIN, kies and I transfer files from and to my computer without problems. also tried reinstalling just in case but nothing, so I guess this is not the answer for my problem
reason 2: tried with original cable, but as I didn't use the tablet for a long time I also thought it could be the cable, so I asked a friend of mine if he could lend me one cable, but that didn't work. pity. :/
reason 3: tried 3 different versions of ODIN, and in every version my phone (mentioned above) is detected. shame. :S
reason 4: tried the 3 different USB ports in my laptop. two 2.0 USB ports and one 3.0 USB port, so again I doubt this is the reason of my problem.
extra reason: ~~~ maybe it's the OS version ~~~ // this laptop came with windows 8 preinstalled. nothing. then, I updated to win 8.1. again nothing. now I'm running windows 10 and the same, nothing is detected neither by ODIN nor the computer. also tried in 4 different computers running win xp, win 7 and other with win 8.1.
btw, thank you anyway for your apportation; this may help other people, but unfortunately, it's not my case, so can anybody else join me to think about a new reason and a way to solve it? thank you very much :good: :highfive: :fingers-crossed:
~~~~~~~~~~~~ EDIT ~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have continued researching and found a software. it didn't work for me, but maybe it works for other people.
-first, you have to make sure you have java installed on your computer.
-second, extract the oneclick.rar file on an easy-access directory.
-third, put your tab on download mode (while charging icon when tab is turned off, press power + volume down until a yellow triangle appears).
-fourth, click start unsoft-brick and let the magic begin! 8)
note: if a warning error pops up, trust the software and click on resolution center and follow the instructions of one of the three "alternative ways".
download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ix6yygu23a1kjn/OneClick.rar?dl=0
good luck!!
help
blizzard_boy said:
tried that before , didnt work
anyway now i managed to get it detected on ODIN and flashed it to GB
Libon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi can you plz help me out with the processess you followed to as im suffring the same problum only CWM working and even it shows sd card mount error also not installing any rom via SD card showing error and odin not detecting it nothing happening only CWM and blank screen
blizzard_boy said:
tried that before , didnt work
anyway now i managed to get it detected on ODIN and flashed it to GB
Libon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did you did it im having the same error???
i did the same thing with my tab exactly like yours plzzzz help me recover it
Okay.
I bought a Samsung Captivate from a company on Amazon a few weeks ago, and it started having the problem with the speaker cutting out. I took it apart to try the two fixed I'd googled - loosening the speaker screw and reseating the speaker ribbon - and neither worked, and now the speaker is completely dead. That isn't my biggest problem, though.
Somehow in the process of the above, I did something that made it so that the phone will only boot into download mode. I can hold down the power and volume buttons and get it to reboot, but it only reboots into download mode again, and won't recognize in windows via the USB cable. It did recognize once, and I used Odin3 to get it back to a factory reset image (it was running stock firmware, but I'd rooted it to remove the AT&T apps) thinking in vain that it might help, but it still only boots into download mode.
But there's the weird thing: It won't power off in download mode unless I pull the battery out, but if I put it back in then plug in the USB cable while holding both volume buttons, it boots right into android, no problem. Everything's fine except the speaker still doesn't work, it doesn't show to be charging while plugged into the USB cable, and still won't recognize the USB in Windows. But if I turn the phone off and back on, I'm back in non-recognizing download mode again.
Everything otherwise works fine once I get it into android, I can even tell it to erase all settings and factory reset, and it reboots itself, re-flashes to stock, and works fine until I power off and back on, then back to download mode.
So I guess the question is oh god what have I done?
Freud,
I too am having this issue with my roommate's phone. The only way I can get it to boot is if I perform a restore using a Odin3 image. However once it's turned off it only boots into download mode. I nor the roommate have opened the phone. It just one day decided to keep booting into download mode.
Any asistance in this matter would be appreciated! Thank you.
zeyoner said:
Freud,
I too am having this issue with my roommate's phone. The only way I can get it to boot is if I perform a restore using a Odin3 image. However once it's turned off it only boots into download mode. I nor the roommate have opened the phone. It just one day decided to keep booting into download mode.
Any asistance in this matter would be appreciated! Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have the same problem! the only way to boot my sgs is to flash a stock rom with odin. and every time i turn off the phone then it reboots in download mode!! someone has a fix? i need help!!! thanks
Pink Freud said:
Okay.
I bought a Samsung Captivate from a company on Amazon a few weeks ago, and it started having the problem with the speaker cutting out. I took it apart to try the two fixed I'd googled - loosening the speaker screw and reseating the speaker ribbon - and neither worked, and now the speaker is completely dead. That isn't my biggest problem, though.
Somehow in the process of the above, I did something that made it so that the phone will only boot into download mode. I can hold down the power and volume buttons and get it to reboot, but it only reboots into download mode again, and won't recognize in windows via the USB cable. It did recognize once, and I used Odin3 to get it back to a factory reset image (it was running stock firmware, but I'd rooted it to remove the AT&T apps) thinking in vain that it might help, but it still only boots into download mode.
But there's the weird thing: It won't power off in download mode unless I pull the battery out, but if I put it back in then plug in the USB cable while holding both volume buttons, it boots right into android, no problem. Everything's fine except the speaker still doesn't work, it doesn't show to be charging while plugged into the USB cable, and still won't recognize the USB in Windows. But if I turn the phone off and back on, I'm back in non-recognizing download mode again.
Everything otherwise works fine once I get it into android, I can even tell it to erase all settings and factory reset, and it reboots itself, re-flashes to stock, and works fine until I power off and back on, then back to download mode.
So I guess the question is oh god what have I done?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can only offer a solution to the windows connection issue, once the phone is connected to pc, go into device manager and uninstall drivers for whatever it sees, unplug phone then plug back in and windows should reinstall drivers. Worked for me, odin wouldnt see phone . GL
This will solve your speaker issue
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1311&_nkw=samsung+i897+speaker&_sacat=0
And this should solve your download mode issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
I'm having a similar issue where my PC does not recognize the device. Right now I have no ROM installed, I have Devil Recovery, and I can only boot into recovery and Download Mode. However 2 different PC's will not recognize the phone. I've tried multiple cables and one PC was Windows 8, one was Windows Vista. Both had the most recent drivers installed. Nothing works....any clue? I can't mount the /sdcard or USB Storage while in recovery because the PC doesn't pick up the phone. The internal storage doesn't have a ROM or kernel to flash on it neither so I cannot flash anything. I have a captivate that has Devil Recovery and can boot into download mode but will computers will not recognize the device, drivers installed or not.
Jonnyredcorn said:
I'm having a similar issue where my PC does not recognize the device. Right now I have no ROM installed, I have Devil Recovery, and I can only boot into recovery and Download Mode. However 2 different PC's will not recognize the phone. I've tried multiple cables and one PC was Windows 8, one was Windows Vista. Both had the most recent drivers installed. Nothing works....any clue? I can't mount the /sdcard or USB Storage while in recovery because the PC doesn't pick up the phone. The internal storage doesn't have a ROM or kernel to flash on it neither so I cannot flash anything. I have a captivate that has Devil Recovery and can boot into download mode but will computers will not recognize the device, drivers installed or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried to uninstall the current drivers, reboot pc and reinstall them?
Also, it could be devil kernel that is faulty. If Odin can recognize the phone, you could flash a different kernel. Or even flash stock KK4, then corn kernel and finally, the ROM you wanna flash through recovery.
I just cannot get the PC to recognize the phone at all, even in download mode. I've tried 2 pc's and multiple USB cables, samsung, non-samsung, motorola, universial. Nothing, just says USB cannot recognize this device. Reinstalled drivers on 2 pc's and rebooted several times. I am lost, I know I'm not bricked because I can access download mode and recovery. I do not have a ROM on my internal card so I can't flash a ROM and can't mount my phone to my PC. No clue what to do.
---------- Post added at 02:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:10 PM ----------
I just need my PC to recognize my device and I'd be good, odin would then recognize my device in download mode and I could flash a different kernel or rom.
Try cleaning out the micro usb port of ur phone. Maybe the contacts are not making good contact.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Any recomendations for what to use to clean it out? I have q-tips, any special solution to use or just the q-tip?
Rubbing alcohol should do.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Still no luck...I got my PC at work to recognize the phone ONCE. It went through and recognized it like it normally would, however it wouldn't recognize it again. I've been trying on my PC at home all last night and all morning and still no go. It won't recognize it. Now one thing I thought about is that I am on Windows 8. The PC at work that recognized it was Windows Vista. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I wouldn't care so much if I didn't just sell it for $150 I just wanted to give the person a more updated ROM and ended up screwing something up when flashing the ROM.
Jonnyredcorn said:
Still no luck...I got my PC at work to recognize the phone ONCE. It went through and recognized it like it normally would, however it wouldn't recognize it again. I've been trying on my PC at home all last night and all morning and still no go. It won't recognize it. Now one thing I thought about is that I am on Windows 8. The PC at work that recognized it was Windows Vista. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I wouldn't care so much if I didn't just sell it for $150 I just wanted to give the person a more updated ROM and ended up screwing something up when flashing the ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok so I know you've uninstalled and reinstalled drivers several time. But what drivers are you using and when you plug the phone into your pc what is it showing as in the device manager?
They may be exactly what you are using but I added some drivers to this post you might want to try. Just unzip then through device manager update the drivers for your device manually and point it to that folder.
I added these drivers because I'm on Win8 as well and I noticed when I was in recovery that my phone wasn't showing up correctly in the device manager. After installing these drivers it was.
Thanks I'll try that when I get home, I am using the most recent drivers on the Samsung website for the Captivate.
So I got it to boot and be recognized by my computer and I used a 1 click method with CWM and it passed so the Odin flash. So no I basically have a on rooted captivate running 2.5 gingerbread and it is totally sellablebel now. I have no idea what caused my computer to recognize it I didn't even try your drivers yet, but thanks for trying to help.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 2
Well whatever happened I'm glad you got it up and running.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app
Hello,
Need to upgrade an old tablet to whatever newer version I can. Currently it has:
Model: GT-P1000L
Android version: 2.2
Kernel: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
I found a few links to do the ROM to Lollipop and/or KitKat, however, I am having issues with the tablet being recognize by Windows 8.1.
Drivers are not working, but even when I plug it in, I never even get an "unknown device" in device manager. Odin will not see it as well when in download mode and I have the original USB cable.
Added: I just tried a Win7 VM and no luck as well. Tablet not recognize at all, it does not show in "device manager" with or without drivers.
Any ideas anyone?
bump
Try uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers or else install samsung keys....or try another cable.
You also have to be in the download mode(volume down+power key) to use odin.
If all this does not work then try on some other system
Thanks! I tried uninstalling/reinstalling drivers multiple times, different versions, etc. Tried a Win7 VM on a MAC + machines with Win 8.1 and 10. None worked. Also tried different Odin versions, same result. And yes, all in download mode.
Yesterday after some research, I am leaning towards a bad cable. It seems some cables are good for charging (in this case it will charge) but not for data transfer.
Will keep you posted.
After dealing with a bad cable, I was finally able to install CWM as in this guide. However, as soon as I installed OMNI 4.4.4., it booted on TWRP 2.8.1. The touch is not working on screen nor the buttons while on TWRP. Cannot do anything.
- ADB shows the device in recovery
Can something be done? I was following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab/general/how-to-install-android-cm12-lollipop-5-t3018841
SOLUTION:
This sure was a learning lesson. For some reason, anytime I flashed "CF-Root-TAB7_XX_OXA_JQ1-v3.3-CWM3RFS.tar" I lost the touch screen in Android and in CWM. So when flashing Omni 4.4.4, could not do anything in TWRP. After lots of reading and some trial/errors, this worked...
- Re-stock using firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
- From stock 2.3.6, I flashed CF-Root-TAB7_XX_OXA_JQ1-v3.3-CWM3RFS.tar with Odin
- Lost touch in screen
- Boot to recovery and in CWM, using volume and power buttons, I installed zip ROM called "HumberOS-v2.1"
- Boot to recovery, Got TOUCH back! Do all wipes.
- From CWM, installed Omni 4.4.4, which gave me TWRP (with touch screen working!) and the ability to install any 5.x or 6.x ROMs as specified here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab/general/how-to-install-android-cm12-lollipop-5-t3018841.
Tablet has a new life!
shabuboy said:
Tablet has a new life!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi! First of all my greetings to you!
I want to update my GT-P1000 too, but on starts has same issue: "unknown device".
Can you please give more detailed information about the difference between charging and data cable. I'll try to find correct cable on local shops.
Best regards.
dimiork said:
Hi! First of all my greetings to you!
I want to update my GT-P1000 too, but on starts has same issue: "unknown device".
Can you please give more detailed information about the difference between charging and data cable. I'll try to find correct cable on local shops.
Best regards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HI, I had the same issue. maybe should try first to make sure you have the right drivers. look for samsung driver for mobile devices and try on different usb ports. I have 3.0 usb and 2.0 usb on my laptop and when I connect my tablet to the 3.0 ones it doent work! so I started using the 2.0 and went smooth
Yes, make sure the correct drivers are there and also try different ports and different PCs if you can. Your issue is a bit different to mine, as it was never shown as "unknown device" for me.
Just FYI... It took me a couple of days to finally research and find out there are different cables, some for charging only and some for charging and data transfer. In my case since I had the charge only cable, PCs never detected the tablet. New cable first try it was detected by Odin.
So, when you say your tablet has new life, how good are we talking? I flashed mine with Cyanogenmod 9.something a while back, and it's near to unusable. Would like to bring it back to life...
we all have different meaning for unusable. For me, the fact that it can have code 5.x or newer is a life saver.
shabuboy said:
we all have different meaning for unusable. For me, the fact that it can have code 5.x or newer is a life saver.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's just incredibly slow, to the point I've hardly used it.