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4 months ago, I bought a samsung galaxy i9000 because, prior to that I was on an E72, so anyway wow, world of difference, but on my I9000, I can play pretty much all the high end games, for now at least, i'm not a serious gamer, so to me, amazing graphics as it is..
At the time I bought the I9000 because I wanted to be plan free, but now my contract on the E72 ran out and now I can upgrade... should I buy a Galaxy S2?
Given that Dual Core ARM processor support for apps is fairly limited, I can't really imagine most tasks requiring more than 1gig of CPU power, I can watch divx, play games, GPS, it's pretty much all perfect, except with the odd couple of hangs the I9000 gets every now and then I love my galaxy so much lol...
So can anyone give me 3 realistic reasons to upgrade?, be as technical as you wish, I know the hardware it supports, I just need to validate my need to buy a new phone yes, games will load faster, but still.. they work just fine if you wait an extra 10 seconds for the game to load?..
Reasons for upgrading? please?
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1gb ram, you can run more stuff, active development, ics
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ok let's reword it a little, what could i /do/ that i can't do now albeit a little laggier and slower, that includes the ICS port for the i9000
I own a GTI-9000 myself, and my wife owns a GTI-9100. I have played around with her phone quite a bit and the nicest thing about it is the speed. Everything is snappier, loads faster, and seems to just perform better all around. Not to mention you get a bigger screen. 4" to 4.5" is a decent enough difference, especially for HD gaming.
Couple that if you get the Galaxy Nexus you get factory ICS. No need to root or do anything fancy to get it to work. Plus everything works 100% with full support.
Honestly if I could upgrade I would. I like my wife's phone more than mine. Basically if you really like your GTI-9000, there's no reason a better version of it wouldn't be of value to you. That's how I feel about it.
Aside from stock ics, camera and better cpu I don't think there's anything else worth noting (except you got a new look ) But for some games you just can't play it with I9000 like Asphalt 6: Adrenaline HD (I was crying when its price drop to 10c to celebrate 10 billion downloads on the android market T^T) There's more but I think if you browse the market with your phone you will not find it cuz it only show the ones you can play. As for stock ICS, I think Samsung ROM won't beat the CM team's ROM anyway :X
thanks for the replies...
you know what, I was curious about what you said about Asphalt 6 (still sounds like a rude word to me lol) anyway, I actually installed it and ran it, it's actually quite smooth on my I9000, but I usually idle around 100-129meg free using a combination of killing event application triggers (eg keeping keeping certain apps from launching on power save features on a rooted device), and advanced task manager..
Anyway, Asphalt 6 is actually smoothish occasionally, it drops a fps and you can see it jerk, but it only lasts for a split second... i also tried 'Fast 5' try that on the galaxy 2, on my I9000, i'd have to say the game is playable at a pinch, the framerate is simply not cutting it...
So, then, I have to upgrade my entire phone for 1 single game then lol
look, I'll give you guys an example...
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^^ my phone, Samsung Galaxy I9000 (16gb version, 4 months old, came with 2.3 now on 2.3.3, now my 3D graphics score is 1106.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4a-sphr07c
above is the new galaxy nexus, which has a dual core, it has a faster cpu, by rights, it should really own a phone as old as the i9000 fair to say..
but, if you break, it down you'll see that the nexus's GPU power only gives it's a slight boost, 3D 1226 on the galaxy nexus, and on a humble I9000 GS, we have 1106..
Now what gives the impression of a superior score, is of course, double/triple the memory and significant IO/read/writes.., when it comes to Asphalt 6 on the I9000 vs I91000, there's really not much difference on that game...
but when it comes to I9000 and the I91000 for say Fast 5 and next generation games which use the dual cores properly and efficiently, then we will see leaps and bounds between single cores and dual/quad..
But we're all playing the catch up game, and the catch up game really is the I91000 so most games and most programs will run perfectly on the i9000 i should suspect albiet it may take 2x as long to load up, 2x long to run, and only 80% as smooth as the I91000...
Or maybe I just have a freaky ARM processor and everyone elses I9000 is significantly slower GPU than the one i have... no idea.... i might go investigate that now... (after investigation, it's average i9000).... so there you go
You are operating under the assumption that benchmark scores actually mean anything significant.
The Galaxy S and Galaxy Nexus use the same GPU though.
S2 rocks
you should upgrade to s2 because :-
1. better camera with LED flash
2. bigger display with AMOLED+ display
3. 1GB ram to make it lagfree
4. high GPU for heavy games
5. DUAL core proc...1.2 which can be overclock to 1.5 if you want
6. vast list of custom rom to finish the word lag from your phone
i think they are enough for you...i still have many points!!
hit thanks if i was helpful to you.
update, we ordered the upgrade.. $29AUD a month with a $4 data plan (we already have 2 phones 2 plans, we don't need to make that many phone calls so the cheapest plan works out just fine for us, since calling each other 24/7 is free)
That works out to about $33 USD a month at the current exchange rate.. $0 upfront for the phone, but... the catch is it will be on a 12month plan, but since this phone will keep up with the competition concerning applications support dual core, I think this phone will be a worthy competitor for playing games on even 3 years off.. maybe near the bottom of the list of the benchmarks, but will be one hell of a player of the high range cheaper phones.... playing even the latest of games i'm sure...
i will buy me every version of galaxy s!
y? because im a fan of them
but for real there is no reason for me to change to s2...
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So.. I was looking through youtube videos and realized the palm pre and iphone 3gs can run about full speed on the PS emulator, and they have a 600 mhz processor.
As the iphone 3g has 400 mhz and can run the PS emulators pretty poorly but still around 10 fps.
Why is it that android has not have a PSemulator yet?
cause no one made it yet
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Maybe an N64 Emulator for beta testing?...always have had problems with N46 Emulators, would be sweet tho, even if i have to sacrifice framerate....
jndd333 said:
Maybe an N64 Emulator for beta testing?...always have had problems with N46 Emulators, would be sweet tho, even if i have to sacrifice framerate....
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yes!
conkers bad fur day on my g1
Correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard that the G1 actually has a dual core processor in it but somehow its limited to only running one core, so before we get any sort of PSX/N64 (Heavy Graphic) emulator, shouldn't we try to unlock that second core (We as in the sexy devs.)?
I might be wrong but in my search on the google, there is a dual core in the G1.
If that core does get unlocked, I could already imagine the battery life rofl.
im pretty sure the "second" core is actually the gpu processor on the same die.... im not 100% on this though
PSX Emulator for the HD2 looks absolutley MINT!! I would love this for my HTC Desire android device! Twisted Metal on the go would be quality!
Would probably need a Bluetooth gamepad though
I hate to rain on your all's parade, as I've looked into this for myself, but the short answer is no. The CPU+ram on the G1 just doesn't provide enough power for this Now the second core that you're talking about really isn't another cpu core. As far as I can tell, it's used for 3G data and graphics. And as CrazyEye said, a Google search turns up that the G1 is using a "multicore processor". That may not necessairly mean that the second core is locked, but rather that it's being used for other things (graphics, 3g data, etc...). The HD2 has really great specifications and boasts a lot of power (especially for a cell phone I mean DAAANG), so it handles the PSX pretty well.
Don't Forget! android apps running on Java wich is some slower and so harder on emulators etc etc...
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I hate to rain on your all's parade, as I've looked into this for myself, but the short answer is no. The CPU+ram on the G1 just doesn't provide enough power for this Now the second core that you're talking about really isn't another cpu core. As far as I can tell, it's used for 3G data and graphics. And as CrazyEye said, a Google search turns up that the G1 is using a "multicore processor". That may not necessairly mean that the second core is locked, but rather that it's being used for other things (graphics, 3g data, etc...). The HD2 has really great specifications and boasts a lot of power (especially for a cell phone I mean DAAANG), so it handles the PSX pretty well.
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I'm surprised to hear this. Considering my old dell x30h (not a phone... but a pda) on its 624Mhz xscale(an armv5 implementation), WM2k3, and positively PIDDLING 64MB Ram could run many PSX games using FpseCE. Ultimately a little frame-skip is obviously necessary, but many games would be playable with said if the buttons on said PDA weren't so absolutely HORRID. Seriously btw, worst d-pad ever.
I can't imagine the 528Mhz Qualcomm chip not being comparable. And certainly 192MB-overhead ram gives FAR more than 64MB-system overhead(which left 32-48MB for programs... depending. And believe me, it was ram that the damn thing ran out of.) Oh yes. And my ol x30h didn't even HAVE graphics acceleration. At all.
Admiteldy, it might require installing as a rooted program or some such...
But... that's just my 2 cents.
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Don't Forget! android apps running on Java wich is some slower and so harder on emulators etc etc...
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True that, but from what has been done with Kwaak 3 (http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/), it seems like it can be done if the actual emulator library is written in C++ and has its functions wrapped and executed by the java app.
a good place to start would probably be looking at a linux based Psx Emulator
EDIT:
from ZODTTD (Great developer of numerous Emulators for iPhone):
in Dev Talk, ZodTTD News by ZodTTD on April 15th, 2010
" But most impressive of all is the 1300+ signatures received for me to support Android developments of VLC and some higher end emulators. It can be seen and supported here (http://www.petitiononline.com/ZodAndro) I’m working on getting a new Nexus One (as my previous one is on loan to a friend) so I can start developing on it."
I guess this means good things lie in our future. (well maybe not us G1 users)
going to bump this so people sign the petition above ^^
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Don't Forget! android apps running on Java wich is some slower and so harder on emulators etc etc...
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Yes and no. Now there's native support in Android, i think its C+++ though. Still, a little closer to the hardware will help greatly with everything especially the dynarec. With a highly optimized* froyo ROM on the HTC Dream it would help even more with that Just-In-Time compiler, its probable.
*hardware acceleration, no memory leaks, minimum background tasks, maximum RAM and ROM availability
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going to bump this so people sign the petition above ^^
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That petitions been signed. Zodttd has started working on psx4android.
Here's my experienced insight:
If you:
1) install the ROM stated above,
2) overclocked the device to 700MHz (stable yet faster) and
3) ran a fairly optimized emulator
you can achieve 30fps with sound for demanding titles like Tekken 3 or Gran Turismo 2. This is a fairly playable state, just consider some static in the sound and areas with many 3D objects will be visibly slow (10%) than other areas (human eye cannot detect differences past 40/45 fps).
However,
1) That ROM won't be made (hardware acceleration is tricky) or will take a few months.
2) Device OC (to make things smoother like 30fps) is no problem but isn't enough alone.
3) Zod's port won't be efficient (it never is, it will just be a dirty port like his previous work, sorry he sucks at optimizations, need more experienced and dedicated developers like in the GP32X scene).
To be frank, the G1 is a pretty good device especially unlocked ones for around AU$200.
However, it was so close but is short of greatness^. I mean PSX emulation would've been a great addition.
For greatness, HTC only needed to add:
1) more RAM (severely limited) at least 288MB like big brother Touch Pro,
2) a flashlight with the camera is very desired,
3) sometimes it lacks a little bit ROM so 512MB would've helped with those App problems.
Other things could've been added to sweeten the pot like, battery with more charge (1400mAh), front facing camera (Skype anyone?) and a stylus slot with a C-tylus.
^Many ARM11 devices out there dirtcheap, this one could've been pushed harder to make psx emulation playable even with 4M polygons/sec, which would've make it the best dirtcheap device.
PS If you want N64+Quake 3 you'd need a Cortex A8 pushed hard, and no I aint pulling numbers out of my @ss I did the research!
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other than that i got quite a few games running decent:
(all uncompressed,and w/tp2 .ini)
gran turismo 2 (pal)- 15-25 fps.(could go a lil faster but gets choppy)
marvel vs. street fighter ex- 30-40 fps ( fun to play,just waiting for bt pad
twisted metal 2- 35-40 fps ( sometimes more, most impressive game espeacailly when alot of action is goin on no real lag).
jet moto 2- 30- 35+fps ( your call between speed and choppy, frame skip works good here) fun game...
crash bandicoot 2- 20-25 fps( game has alot of sprites like rain etc... although the game looks awesome).
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This is a quote for (FpseCE 1.0 for HTC Touch Pro ), just to bring to your attention.
If these figures are obtained for Touch Pro (same device more RAM), and the emulator runs fully native (WinMo 6.1), the G1 is "most likely" to do worse due to obvious disadvantages. I used "most likely" since it will greatly rely on how optimized the emulator is.
I urge PSX devs to optimize the code for the G1, and even if its slow (or not yet playable) at least it would be optimized enough to run on other, more expensive, devices (eg Moto Droid) smoothly or fullspeed.
Remmember, you're only as fast as your slowest compartment. So individually removing the bottlenecks will play key in psx for many devices to come.
Edit: fixing link
Sorry for bombarding this (abandoned) thread.
But I've got some news / update.
The psx4android project is falling through. The developers of Sensoid and Gameboid (both emulators that work fullspeed on G1) have teamed up with Zodtt (iPhone fanboy & emulator developer).
Bad news is compatible with Donut and above (Android 2.0 +) so it won't be functional for the HTC Dream/G1 with that official 1.6. Luckily you have the option of "final build" (umm stable?) of Android 2.1 with the CyanogenMOD 5.0.7. This would mean you have to learn some technical things and go through the risk of bricking your phone, but are well rewarded.
More bad news is that its still early and most likely will be aimed at the Nexus One, which should run fullspeed once major bugs are removed.
And some speculation here but even more bad news is that it won't be free (judging from Zodtt's track-record of having to buy things through Cydia for iPhone Apps).
Heres the link:
http://digitaldisbeliever.net/2010/06/zodttd-is-showing-some-love-to-android/
fstluxe said:
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Well that is not entirely correct.
The default application framework is dalvik, which is almost Java; but it is alse possibly to develop applications for android in native code, if you need to, take a look at the Android NDK.
brettf said:
from ZODTTD (Great developer of numerous Emulators for iPhone):
in Dev Talk, ZodTTD News by ZodTTD on April 15th, 2010
" But most impressive of all is the 1300+ signatures received for me to support Android developments of VLC and some higher end emulators. It can be seen and supported here (http://www.petitiononline.com/ZodAndro) I’m working on getting a new Nexus One (as my previous one is on loan to a friend) so I can start developing on it."
I guess this means good things lie in our future. (well maybe not us G1 users)
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I've just sign in - 1932 signs now
keep signing
having an emulator made by ZodTTd would mean a verrrrryyyy poor game compatibility and very few fps.
Just look at what PSX4iphone can do on a 3GS: maybe only 2 games running full speed with sound (in fact, I think wipeout is the only games I've seen running full speed on an iphone. Youtube is full of FF7 videos but you'll never see casting big magic spells or big battles in these videos...And tekken 3 is so slow that it's just a pain...)
So if results are already poor on it's original device that has a not that bad CPU.....
i900frenchaddict said:
having an emulator made by ZodTTd would mean a verrrrryyyy poor game compatibility and very few fps.
Just look at what PSX4iphone can do on a 3GS: maybe only 2 games running full speed with sound (in fact, I think wipeout is the only games I've seen running full speed on an iphone. Youtube is full of FF7 videos but you'll never see casting big magic spells or big battles in these videos...And tekken 3 is so slow that it's just a pain...)
So if results are already poor on it's original device that has a not that bad CPU.....
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Yes but the Snapdragon of the nexus one and the HTC desire is a lot faster than the Iphone 3gs. And almost every year cpu power(not mhz) is doubled. So within a year you would have a pretty good working emu on a high end android system.
Terracide said:
Yes but the Snapdragon of the nexus one and the HTC desire is a lot faster than the Iphone 3gs. And almost every year cpu power(not mhz) is doubled. So within a year you would have a pretty good working emu on a high end android system.
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He is right that Zod won't be able to polish it as much as he does with the ones for the iPhone.
However, Zod did tell me that his N64 emulator is much more efficient than his PSX, so there is alot of room for improvement on the psx4android.
The biggest problem of course is hardware acceleration. The layers of VirtualMachine in Androids' coding allows for media to run in several standards to allow compatability at the expense of performance. And there are other factors too. For instance, the Motorola Milestone` has roughly equivalent graphics grunt as the Acer Liquid E`. However, PSX emulation should be very disappointing on the Motorola Milestone whereas it should be perfect (full speed + sound) for the Snapdragon devices.
Why? The emulators rely primarily on the CPU for drawing the graphics, where the potential of the GPU is left unused. The Motorola has a weaker CPU and decent GPU, in contrast the Snapdragon has a powerful CPU but disgraceful GPU. So the performance [of emulator] is biased towards the Snapdragon devices and that's not a good thing.
Here's why:
The CPU could do the graphics just fine it will only mean it would have to be pushed hard (more wear n tear), there won't be much processing power left (goodbye multitasking), the CPU would waste more battery than the GPU* (an important point when it comes to portability) and the emulator would run much slower^.
The future is looking at devices that have SoC's with powerful CPU's and GPU's where different cores can be shutdown. And on top of this it's looking for software that allows for cross-compatability across different processors (SoC's/x86/MIPS) within a certain level of performance loss. I see the greatest potential in MeeGo (a light and secure Linux) with cross-compatability (when based on Qt) on devices like OMAP44xx's (>1Ghz Dual Cortex 9 CPU) with modern graphics (SGX543MP8 ~ ATi HD3470). The technology is there but the market will have to mature before you can get one, ie people spending.
*usually the case when the CPU stays on idle and GPU is used but not always.
^Next gen GPU's are alot more powerful and better at drawing graphics (obviously) and can be switched off by the SoC when unused like Tegra/OMAP series.
I didn't think the nook color would play higher end games, but so far I'm really impressed. I have the following running quite well so far:
Raging Thunder 2
Asphalt 5
N.O.V.A.
Dungeon Hunter
Dungeon Defenders
Krazy Kart Racing
Pool Break Pro
Oh, and the graphically intense Angry Birds and Angry Birds seasons...
It also runs the Snesoid/Gensoid/Nesoid emulators perfectly. I wasn't expecting that just looking at the clockspeed (800mhz)
I'm not surprised because I know that the NC contains the same PowerVR GPU that the Mid-Range Droid X / Droid 2 devices do. I've run "Dungeon Defenders" (first game powered by Unreal Engine and more graphically intense than Angry Birds) and it runs fairly smooth. The high end devices like those of the Galaxy S family have even more powerful PowerVR GPU and run it better of course. The PowerVR GPU model in Apple's products is between the NC and the SGS family if anyone is interested.
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I'm not surprised because I know that the NC contains the same PowerVR GPU that the Mid-Range Droid X / Droid 2 devices do. I've run "Dungeon Defenders" (first game powered by Unreal Engine and more graphically intense than Angry Birds) and it runs fairly smooth. The high end devices like those of the Galaxy S family have even more powerful PowerVR GPU and run it better of course. The PowerVR GPU model in Apple's products is between the NC and the SGS family if anyone is interested.
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The latest generation of Apple products actually use virtually the same processor as the Hummingbird found in the Samsung products. They use the same PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
But Apple seems to set mystery clocks on their A4 chips that appear to vary depending on the device. So the iPad's CPU/GPU appear to be clocked higher than the iPhone's. The iPhone may or may not dynamically clock up though based on what I've read.
An iPad should have identical performance to a Galaxy Tab though as far as raw hardware power goes. Any differences are likely purely in software.
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It also runs the Snesoid/Gensoid/Nesoid emulators perfectly. I wasn't expecting that just looking at the clockspeed (800mhz)
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Id be mad if it couldnt handle those, my old 200mhz Wing managed that.
tekdemon said:
The latest generation of Apple products actually use virtually the same processor as the Hummingbird found in the Samsung products. They use the same PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
An iPad should have identical performance to a Galaxy Tab though as far as raw hardware power goes. Any differences are likely purely in software.
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Not quite true, the A4 iOS line is still using a SGX535 (same as the 3GS). Capable GPU, bit better than the 530 on the Nook Color (and Moto Droid line) but not up to par with the 540 on the Galaxy Hummingbird in terms of specs (it's about half as fast as the 540).
But, unlike the 540, the 535 is actually being used for UI acceleration on the iOS devices, giving them that trademark smoothness in everyday use, making iOS devices feel much faster than Android.
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Not quite true, the A4 iOS line is still using a SGX535 (same as the 3GS). Capable GPU, bit better than the 530 on the Nook Color (and Moto Droid line) but not up to par with the 540 on the Galaxy Hummingbird in terms of specs (it's about half as fast as the 540).
But, unlike the 540, the 535 is actually being used for UI acceleration on the iOS devices, giving them that trademark smoothness in everyday use, making iOS devices feel much faster than Android.
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From what I could find it's only slightly better than the 530 and merely amounts to a slight clock freq increase... the 540 was PowerVR's big perf change.
Anyways, I'm not surprised that these games run OK given that this is likely the level of hw that they were targeted at. Next year might bring some problems as more games will be targeted at Tegra 2.
game performance of NC is great, but I hate the poor video playback capabilities, I admire Samsung galaxy can play 720p mkv files without any problem because most of my movies are 720p mkv files.
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game performance of NC is great, but I hate the poor video playback capabilities, I admire Samsung galaxy can play 720p mkv files without any problem because most of my movies are 720p mkv files.
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I broke down and picked one up yesterday, but it's going back since I'm finding it way too hard to insert the mini-USB and couldn't manage it at all this morning. Anyways, NC is nowhere near as fast as Tegra 2. It's not bad, definitely better than ARM11, but still... not even close to Tegra 2...
...going to give B&N one more shot at not trying to sell sh!t quality for $250...
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It also runs the Snesoid/Gensoid/Nesoid emulators perfectly. I wasn't expecting that just looking at the clockspeed (800mhz)
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Where can I get the emulators?
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Where can I get the emulators?
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Either get market going, or find them elsewhere online... IIRC they're paid apps, but there might be some free ones for Genesis, SNES, & gb...
(Got a replacement NC. Idiot guy in the store was trying to tell no, thats as far as it goes, it's OK... so I asked got power? Yep. Plug it in. See no nice shiny LED lighting up on the cable... tries their store charger same deal as my cable, tries the demo unit and in it goes...
I tried the new one's cable BEFORE I left the store this time, but when I got home and started it charging I find that I have one with the SUPER sensitive touch screen...)
I haven't been too happy with gaming performance on this. Mostly because many of my games look like this...
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They don't play full screen and look bad. That screenshot was from Raging Thunder 2 Lite.
Wonder if the Spare Parts trick we used for the Galaxy Tab will work on the NC.
I'm not rooted* and don't plan to be or I'd test it.
But basically, you install Spare Parts from the Market, fire it up, check Compatibility mode if it is unchecked, or uncheck it if it checked, reboot the device, then un-check or check Compatibility mode one more time, reboot again, and it will start stretching apps to full screen.
*Not rooting because I already have the far more capable, faster, lighter/smaller Galaxy Tab for full-on tablet duties. The dirt cheap Nook Color is probably going to be my dedicated bathroom device (replacing my Kindle WiFi) for throne and tub reading. I won't miss the eInk at all indoors, so the Kindle will now be just for camping trips thanks to its incredible battery life and outdoor-friendly display.
camwinnn said:
Id be mad if it couldnt handle those, my old 200mhz Wing managed that.
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only reason im suprised it runs the "oid" emulators so well is because they run pitifully slow on my android phone running at 600mhz. naturally i concluded that the app required alot of juice to run properly. maybe its a software problem on my phone
Ravynmagi said:
I haven't been too happy with gaming performance on this. Mostly because many of my games look like this...
They don't play full screen and look bad. That screenshot was from Raging Thunder 2 Lite.
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Yeah, spare parts & the compatibility setting gets you full screen, or at least in everything that I've tried on various devices so far, and no incompatibilities yet either.
Ravynmagi said:
I haven't been too happy with gaming performance on this. Mostly because many of my games look like this...
They don't play full screen and look bad. That screenshot was from Raging Thunder 2 Lite.
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Yeah, you need to do the Spare Parts fix (that's what I did). All of the games I listed play fullscreen (Raging Thunder 2 included) and are the HD versions. They actually look and play great.
cutterjohn said:
I broke down and picked one up yesterday, but it's going back since I'm finding it way too hard to insert the mini-USB.
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LOL! That's probably because it's a Micro-USB rather than Mini-USB. They're similar connectors but are certainly different enough that you won't succeed in inserting one into the other. I certainly wouldn't fault B&N or the NC for that.
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Anyways, NC is nowhere near as fast as Tegra 2.
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It was never advertised as such or intended to be. It's common knowledge (especially here) that the NC only sports a PowerVR 530 (unlike the 535 in the iPad). The Tegra 2 is even faster than the 540. Of course the NC wouldn't be anywhere near as fast. LOL! Perhaps, you should return just return the NC and purchase an actual tablet like the ViewSonic G-Tablet with it's awful screen for much more $$$ instead of an E-Reader if you have such high expectations.
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Perhaps, you should return just return the NC and purchase an actual tablet like the ViewSonic G-Tablet with it's awful screen for much more $$$ instead of an E-Reader if you have such high expectations.
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God, I couldn't believe how bad the G-Tablet screen was. Bought one from Office Depot when visiting my family for Christmas, because my Dad fell in love with my Galaxy Tab, and I thought it would make a nice gift for him. The display unit was locked down to the kiosk tight, so I was always looking at it from above in landscape mode.
Lucky for me, I decided to play with it and get it set up for him before wrapping it. Made me sick how bad it was off-angle, not to mention the blizzard of force closes on the very first boot up. Took it back and got him an Acer 10" netbook instead, which he does love.
I'm positive B&N is losing money on the NC, based on what they had to have spent on the display alone. Somebody there bought a clue or two when they opted for high-end parts and farmed out the industrial design to a real design firm. I imagine they've sold thousands upon thousands of these things just on the look and feel, functionality be damned. I know that's why I impulse bought one even though I already own and love a Galaxy Tab.
What is the fix? I am wanting to get magic gem to play full screen. I downloaded spare parts from the market but didn't see any option that would help.
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ethion said:
What is the fix? I am wanting to get magic gem to play full screen. I downloaded spare parts from the market but didn't see any option that would help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10224035&postcount=13
Is it a good idea? I'm tempted to sell off my Nexus and get the G2x the 15th when it comes out.
Discuss?
(If this is the wrong section, my bad, I'll gladly ask a mod to move it or delete it)
I also have a mytouch4g. I am going to keep my Nexus S because it is too good of a phone to sell in my opinion but I'm definitely selling the mytouch and getting the g2x.
Nexus S
The g2x looks very good but just cause it has a duel core
Doesn't make it better then the nexus s the ns will always get the first updates
over any phone on android plus the 1ghz hummingbird is a beast ..... I do
Like the g2x tv out options but when comes to speed the nexus s is just so fast I don't see how
they can make it any faster if I was u I would keep the nexus
512mb ram =(
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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A lot of people really like the lg Optimus 2x. I also think I'm gonna get the g2x anyways because I like new gadgets. Paulobrien is one of the major android developers in my opinion, and he is using the 2x. Not trying to argue with you, just my reasons for wanting to get it, although I am not going to sell my nexus. I'm sure teamdouche will have someone with the g2x too, I think I saw koush or kmobs tweet about how they are gonna get it, I forgot which one of them
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dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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There are already many ROM options for the LG O2X. I don't see why the T-mobile G2X will not work with these.
Honestly I/O is right around the corner!!! I would wait to see what google has up its sleeves before I jump ship to the G2X. Its not all about hardware guys, the Nexus S is still one of the top of the line phones!!!
i'm jumping ship as soon as i get the Tmobile USA version
the SNS is not getting nearly as much attention from DEV & Coders as the N1 did
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Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcore
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I'm sorry, but where are people getting this information from?
Everything on android uses threading or else the UI would be unusable. Threads are delegated to the available cores, more cores equals better performance.
You can have UI thread doing it's own thing and in the background have another thread calling sqlite, fetching a bitmap, crunching some numbers or whatever.
See that nice and smooth Flash video playing and your browser still being able to do other things ..threading.
You may not notice it on light applications, but anything that does heavier work will benefit from multiple cores.
why is this in the galaxy s II section.... lol
AllGamer said:
i'm jumping ship as soon as i get the Tmobile USA version
the SNS is not getting nearly as much attention from DEV & Coders as the N1 did
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Lets make that NO dev atention
JD
bbm21 said:
why is this in the galaxy s II section.... lol
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I don't know lmao, I posted it in the General Section of the Nexus S and it got moved?
dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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Are you sure the Tegra 2 GPU is weaker than the SGX540? I lag on my Nexus S playing need for speed :/.
The screen is worse, I would miss the Super Amoled, maybe it's best to wait for the Galaxy S 2 and skip the G2X all together
The G2x does look nice but I've been spoiled to much with the super amoleddisplay on my vibrant so I'll stick with the SGS2.
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This thread wasn't even move to right section
anyways release date announced
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none contract $499
Im waiting for galaxy S2 hopefully the none tegra version has SGX543
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This thread wasn't even move to right section
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none contract $499
Im waiting for galaxy S2 hopefully the none tegra version has SGX543
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Nope, will have a Mali 400 quad core gpu
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Lets make that NO dev atention
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Its quite sad too because it's a very very capable phone
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Is it a good idea? I'm tempted to sell off my Nexus and get the G2x the 15th when it comes out.
Discuss?
(If this is the wrong section, my bad, I'll gladly ask a mod to move it or delete it)
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To welcome yourself back to the random reboot days? Jk
Hopefully due to completely different software, hopefully the g2x has none of the 2z issues.
Yeah, it's a great phone, but the screen :/, after using SAMOLED I can't go back to LCD.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2qbagpg.jpg[/IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/dfafj4.jpg[/IMG]So I have been thourgly impressed by my thrill and I love it. However we just got the galaxy 2 in and I ran a quadrant score to compare and was devastated. The galaxy 2 destroyed my thrill and the infuse we tried against it. So I will be posting the three scores so everyone can see. I'm only posting this here in the thrill section since so many people have been debating between the two.
I live my thrill but may just have to jump ship after seeing this. They come out Sunday but most stores such as mine already have them
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If you care about benchmarks then the SGS2 will be the best device for you, spoken from a former SGS2 user.
However, if quadrant is all you care about, here is my Thrill running Thiaiz 1.3 w/ some build.prop tweaks and Supercharger V6.
NOTE: These tweaks make the phone actually feel faster.
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You will still be able to still score MUCH higher the SGS2 though because you can overclock the CPU and GPU, as well run these same tweaks.
Thrill didn't even make the list. LOL!
I don't see what is so impressive with that benchmark to be honest. My Thrill scores 2510 completely stock running Froyo.
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I just ran Quadrant again and scored 2720. This is a 100% stock phone. I only have root, no other tweaks yet. I may yet still return it, not sure yet. I like so many things about this device, just don't trust LG very much. Of course, I don't trust Samsung much either. I have been burned by them both in the past.
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http://i55.tinypic.com/2qbagpg.jpg[/IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/dfafj4.jpg[/IMG]So I have been thourgly impressed by my thrill and I love it. However we just got the galaxy 2 in and I ran a quadrant score to compare and was devastated. The galaxy 2 destroyed my thrill and the infuse we tried against it. So I will be posting the three scores so everyone can see. I'm only posting this here in the thrill section since so many people have been debating between the two.
I live my thrill but may just have to jump ship after seeing this. They come out Sunday but most stores such as mine already have them
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I actually topped that running the hacked together cm7 for the O3D on the Thrill. There's a screenshot in the cm7 thread in general. So don't get too discouraged...this Froyo LG gave us is just horrible. GB will be much more optimized for the Thrill than Froyo is.
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Thrill didn't even make the list. LOL!
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Its not that kind of list. It has a list of certain devices and some generic scores built into the app. It doesn't show any comparisons that the user actually runs.
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Get CM7 or some other custom ROMs on this thing running gingerbread (which is what it is being compared to with the SGS2) and the Thrill will be on top of the SGS2's score. I'm going to stick it out with the Thrill and see what's coming down the line. The only real thing the SGS2 has that is better than the Thrill, is the NFC (which doesn't even work yet supposedly). The Thrill having 3D is worth more than that for me.
When the next Nexus device comes out though, I will probably get it to rock along side my Thrill (unless by some miracle it has 3D in it, which I HIGHLY doubt).
I'm in the same boat. I just got the thrill but lack of gingerbread is killing me. My inspire on miui at only 1.2ghz beats it at most anything. In replacing the inspire I was looking for a phone that out of the box would equal maxxed out, balls to the wall speed on my inspire. I really feel like its being terribly handicapped by 2.2. My local att store claims that they are temporarily withholding the gs2 in my local market and sold me this phone instead.
Speed tweaks people, use them. The phone will be a LOT faster, trust me.
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Speed tweaks people, use them. The phone will be a LOT faster, trust me.
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Can you link the boosts your using to push your to that? My boss has the Galaxy S II now and after much debate and using the Galaxy for a bit i decided i like the Thrill better as an overall phone it simply has a better flow to it and does everything i need plus has the Wow factor with the 3D which, since i work at at&t in one of stores this proves more beneficial to me in the long run. I would love to have some form of boost to put my Thrill up there closer to the Galaxy.
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Can you link the boosts your using to push your to that?
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For stock:
Build.prop tweaks
Supercharger V6
If you want my specific set up, then you will need Root and CWM. Flash Thiaiz Rom and follow his instructions for "extra speed", replace the build.prop with this one, and then install Supercharger V6.
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My boss has the Galaxy S II now and after much debate and using the Galaxy for a bit i decided i like the Thrill better as an overall phone it simply has a better flow to it and does everything i need plus has the Wow factor with the 3D which, since i work at at&t in one of stores this proves more beneficial to me in the long run. I would love to have some form of boost to put my Thrill up there closer to the Galaxy.
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The SGS2 is and will be a much better phone (imo). The only thing the Thrill has over it is the 3D. The SGS2 has a better camera, audio chip, cpu/gpu, display, support, battery life, user-experience (a lot faster), etc. Unless you REALLY care about the 3D, I'd highly recommend the SGS2 over the Thrill.
As for you job, why can't you just get the AT&T SGS2 which has NFC?
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For stock:
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Supercharger V6
As for you job, why can't you just get the AT&T SGS2 which has NFC?
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I prefer the Thrill because to the average user the ability of the galaxy II will go unnoticed and they will never "take it out of first gear" so to speak so the 3D feature of the Thrill weighs heavier to the clientele we service, atleast in my experience. If i show them a video of Avatar in 3D compared to a benchmark score of the Galaxy which do you think they are going to appreciate more?
And thanks for the tips im going to have to look into that rom you have and see how it will work for me. I have supercharger on mine now and the results have been minimal, though i am sure it is due to my lack of experience with Supercharger. I have the hard to kill launcher and the aggressive one settings. Any tips on how to tweak it?
Realityfalse said:
If i show them a video of Avatar in 3D compared to a benchmark score of the Galaxy which do you think they are going to appreciate more?
And thanks for the tips im going to have to look into that rom you have and see how it will work for me. I have supercharger on mine now and the results have been minimal, though i am sure it is due to my lack of experience with Supercharger. I have the hard to kill launcher and the aggressive one settings. Any tips on how to tweak it?
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Probably the SGS2 if you compared them side-by-side. The benchmark would make them think "this is one faster so its better" and when you compare the LCD on the Thrill to the SAMOLED+ on the SGS2 they will see MUCH better colors on the SGS2 and think that it is a higher quality phone, and the price also suggests this. Also, when your demoing the SGS2 you can compare it to any smartphone's browser in the store and I guarantee you the SGS2 will load it up first. You can say that's a combination of the phones fast 1.2GHz processor and AT&T's 4G network.
Personally, I think its easier to sell a SGS2 than a Thrill to someone either knowledgeable or ignorant. Anyways, I use option 7 (multi-tasking) for Supercharger.
If I'm running the thriller rom, would the supercharger do anything in terms of performance
Yes, Supercharger should make your phone faster no matter what Rom you're on (even stock).
So, what was the GS2 quadrant score? I just ran it and got 2678 and have had over 2700 before. Completely stock and unrooted.
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Probably the SGS2 if you compared them side-by-side. The benchmark would make them think "this is one faster so its better" and when you compare the LCD on the Thrill to the SAMOLED+ on the SGS2 they will see MUCH better colors on the SGS2 and think that it is a higher quality phone, and the price also suggests this. Also, when your demoing the SGS2 you can compare it to any smartphone's browser in the store and I guarantee you the SGS2 will load it up first. You can say that's a combination of the phones fast 1.2GHz processor and AT&T's 4G network.
Personally, I think its easier to sell a SGS2 than a Thrill to someone either knowledgeable or ignorant. Anyways, I use option 7 (multi-tasking) for Supercharger.
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I very highly doubt the "average" user would give a rats rear about benchmarks and would much prefer watching a video in 3D. As for everyone always placing the SGSII with "Higher Benchmarks" above the thrill. Let's think for a second, once the thrill has a new Kernel and GB which the SGSII has than they will most likely be on par on benchmark scores. Secondly the thing that threw me for a loop the most about the SGSII is the fact that you have to BUY an adapter for the dang phone to even use HDMI capability when almost all of the newer phones coming out have a dedicated HDMI port and are coming with the cables. As for the SuperAmoled + that is only going to take you so far considering the resolution is still the basic 480X800. Also in regards to what loads the browser faster go look at the video reviews between these two. The thrill actually did that faster in the video's ironically. So yea throw in the No HDMI unless you pay MORE money plus the 3D plus the fact that the Thrill is Very close to on par with the SGSII without GB yea do the math a little bit on which would be easier to sell at that point. Truthfully the SGSII is an easier sell to Geek's than your Average person and even than the 3D is very cool and this phone has a Lot of potential that it is not utilizing with Froyo.
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I very highly doubt the "average" user would give a rats rear about benchmarks and would much prefer watching a video in 3D.
Secondly the thing that threw me for a loop the most about the SGSII is the fact that you have to BUY an adapter for the dang phone to even use HDMI capability when almost all of the newer phones coming out have a dedicated HDMI port and are coming with the cables.
As for the SuperAmoled + that is only going to take you so far considering the resolution is still the basic 480X800. Also in regards to what loads the browser faster go look at the video reviews between these two. The thrill actually did that faster in the video's ironically. So yea throw in the No HDMI unless you pay MORE money plus the 3D plus the fact that the Thrill is Very close to on par with the SGSII without GB yea do the math a little bit on which would be easier to sell at that point.
Truthfully the SGSII is an easier sell to Geek's than your Average person and even than the 3D is very cool and this phone has a Lot of potential that it is not utilizing with Froyo.
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I don't think they would care about benchmarks itself, but I do think they would interpret them as the SGS2 being faster, and its natural to want the fastest device.
Its not common for phones to come with cables that connect your phone to your TV. I was actually really surprised when AT&T included one with the Infuse and Thrill.
SAMOLED+ provides much better quality/colors and the 800x480 screen resolution is standard on Android (meaning all apps fit it the screen perfectly). As for the browser, no. The SGS2 is faster in any comparison I've seen and from my own experience with both. Its also hw accelerated so it will be smoother than any other Android device.
Lets say the Average Joe knows nothing about these two phones and so he looks at their spec sheet. 2.3 Vs. 2.2, 8MP Vs. 5MP, SAMOLED+ Vs. LCD, 1.2Ghz Vs. 1.0Ghz, 1GB RAM Vs. 512MB Ram, 16GB Vs 8GB, Thin Vs. Fat, Light Vs. Heavy. If he used the devices he would also find the experience on the SGS2 faster and smoother in everything and the screen would make the Thrill's look washed out. He looks at 3D content and either he likes it or it hurts his eyes. He then compares the pros/cons of both and the only thing the Thrill has over the SGS2 is the 3D and price.
The SGS2 sells itself.
My benchmark on thrill
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I don't think they would care about benchmarks itself, but I do think they would interpret them as the SGS2 being faster, and its natural to want the fastest device.
Its not common for phones to come with cables that connect your phone to your TV. I was actually really surprised when AT&T included one with the Infuse and Thrill.
SAMOLED+ provides much better quality/colors and the 800x480 screen resolution is standard on Android (meaning all apps fit it the screen perfectly). As for the browser, no. The SGS2 is faster in any comparison I've seen and from my own experience with both. Its also hw accelerated so it will be smoother than any other Android device.
Lets say the Average Joe knows nothing about these two phones and so he looks at their spec sheet. 2.3 Vs. 2.2, 8MP Vs. 5MP, SAMOLED+ Vs. LCD, 1.2Ghz Vs. 1.0Ghz, 1GB RAM Vs. 512MB Ram, 16GB Vs 8GB, Thin Vs. Fat, Light Vs. Heavy. If he used the devices he would also find the experience on the SGS2 faster and smoother in everything and the screen would make the Thrill's look washed out. He looks at 3D content and either he likes it or it hurts his eyes. He then compares the pros/cons of both and the only thing the Thrill has over the SGS2 is the 3D and price.
The SGS2 sells itself.
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Yes but do you think the extra 100 dollars is worth that phone that will be outdated in half of a year? Nobody can judge the Thrill because they never advertised it, no commercials were released and everybody is amazed at the phone and they always ask what kind it is. It's a great phone, and it has and puts forward some amazing performances.
Would you say that the LG Nexus 5X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the LG Nexus 5X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
This is a quick phone. It does lag a bit when you're trying to push it hard, especially when it starts heating up.
4/5 Stars and will surely change to a 5/5 after kernels and leaner ROMs improve speed and responsiveness.
The 808 does an admirable job at first, but like others have said, sustained usage shows slight delays between actions. This almost always comes with slight heat at the top of the phone. It's also perceptible when you enable "show touches"; when the 808 begins throttling, certain commands take half a second to respond, why can get annoying (I.ee. bringing up akeyboard). Gaming is OK, bug throttling can hurt sustained sessions. Apps load fast, and I find no issues with overall fluidity, just responsiveness of actions. Overall, I think it is not a huge step forward compared to the old Nexus 5, which dazzled us with speed 2 years back.
In general use, great. Only slow downs are due to encryption, which can be sorted if needs be. Graphically capable due to use of 1080p screen.
Lags a bit using SwiftKey. The 6P was smooth as silk using SwiftKey.
I'm not a power user in the common sense, rather I do a lot of text entry: SMS and email. The majority of my use is for work email or SMS with friends. For that, the quad+dual core CPUs are fantastic. I have no leg ever, and I'm also using Kernel Auditor to limit the max speed of both quad and dual core clusters.
For games, I play very light games and find no problems there either.
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This is a quick phone. It does lag a bit when you're trying to push it hard, especially when it starts heating up.
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what did u mean by push it hard?? i am looking to buy this phone but a bit confused about the multitasking n gaming.
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Lags a bit using SwiftKey. The 6P was smooth as silk using SwiftKey.
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what about google keyboard?
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I'm not a power user in the common sense, rather I do a lot of text entry: SMS and email. The majority of my use is for work email or SMS with friends. For that, the quad+dual core CPUs are fantastic. I have no leg ever, and I'm also using Kernel Auditor to limit the max speed of both quad and dual core clusters.
For games, I play very light games and find no problems there either.
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is there any stuttering if u play games for long??
You should bring these questions to other sections. These posts are mostly for reviews, less for Q&A (Mods please feel free to move this post )
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what about google keyboard?
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Personally, I do not find the Google keyboard lags at all.
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is there any stuttering if u play games for long??
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I can play Star Realms for 30 minutes without any problems such as lagging. I think that's the most intensive game I have on my phone. Like I mentioned, I don't really play many games.
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Lags a bit using SwiftKey. The 6P was smooth as silk using SwiftKey.
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Had no Problems using Swiftkey on it!
Actively writing to storage can cause slow downs such as while updating apps, possibly due to encryption. Otherwise the 808 is fast and snappy for all tasks and the camera launches and takes quicker HDR+ pictures than my N5.
The device does not noticeably throttle under normal usage in my experience.
Gaming performance is a huge step up from the N5, which would over heat and cripple performance after 15-20 minutes. This is because the 4x krait cores would downclock to under 1Ghz and the GPU would still be forced to downclock as well.
The 5x runs faster and remains cooler. It does this by throttling the 2x A57 cores but keeps the 4xA53 cores at their full 1.44Ghz. This reduces heat and allows the Adreno 418 GPU to run at full clock speed, which is then able to sustain high graphics performance indefinitely. During this time the device will feel warm but not uncomfortably so as with most other devices and the bottom of the phone remains cool.
Due to the above as well as its 1080p screen, the 5x out performs most high end Android devices today during sustained graphics performance, which drop to lower frame rates during their own thermal throttling and struggle to output 2k resolution. This was demonstrated in this test taken from Anandtech's 5x review.
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in dead trigger game my n 5x very laggi and frame rate is low
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I'm having delays with everything it seems, when i open the browser, when i open any app, it just feels like i have to wait a second or 2/3 before its loaded.
I also still have my Oneplus One which seems to be faster with everything i load.
Its not horrible but its enough to annoy me every time i open something, its not what im used to and not what i expected when buying a newer generation phone.
The only performance problem I've had (verified by showing the core clock speeds on an overlay) is playing the Gameloft MLP game. It's fine for the first 30 seconds or so and you can pan around Ponyville to your hearts content buttery smooth, then the A57s slow down and it starts to lag, and after a minute or so (certainly not the 12 minutes I heard somewhere else) the A57s shut down completely and scrolling is like swimming through treacle and has visible framerate judder.
Very snappy in everything else I've thrown at it so far!
I'd love to get this phone but with all the lag I am reading and hearing, I'm a bit turned off now. With all these experienced lag in usage, would you guys still recommend this phone? or are you planning on switching to a different brand/model?
Throwing the CPU under the bus is great for graphics benchmarks but what about when a game or app is actually using the CPU? I played some Star Wars Uprising and my experience reflected this, the 3D graphics stayed smooth but loading times and interface lag were atrocious. If I put the phone in the freezer for a minute it would be snappy again for a few minutes until heat built up again.
Also I wonder if encrypted storage with no dedicated hardware aggravates this as well. Heat slows CPU and then when it goes to access storage that is also slower. Cherry on top is the low RAM boots your background apps from memory and then they need to be loaded again on the hot phone if you switch out from a game.
I am happy enough with the phone now that I stopped trying to play games on it (hit the paywall in Uprising anyways hah) but if you want to do that on the regular I would stay far away.
I have been using the phone for a few days and all the games i have played have been fine. I had the note 4 and i think the nexus has a bit of a speed boost compared. Menu system and everything else has been really good as well.
Been using since release, running Chroma with Xposed and stock franco kernel. Definitely quick, but not 2016 standards quick. Just my opinion.
I push this phone every day. 100+ emails, texting all day with clients, anywhere from 3-20 phone calls, using Snapchat a lot, Youtube, streaming music on my drive to and from work, etc. This phone gets it done most of the time but there are times when I'm sitting there thinking "wtf is happening right now", I'm talking complete locks that last up to 10sec or more in some cases. Sometimes Swiftkey doesn't want to popup in Snapchat or Google Messenger. Other times I get stuck switching back and forth between Chrome and Outlook or any other app. Slight lags and annoyances are definitely noticeable (even on stock which I used for at least a month or 2).
Battery life is terrible for me personally, I just can't get through the day, but again I don't think many phones can handle my usage. The 2GB RAM definitely had me skeptical about buying but the physical size was perfect so I jumped on it. Not totally disappointed in the phone but just wish they could make something powerful and keep it small too.
Needs to improve!!
I don't game on the phone.