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My Bionic will arrive on Monday. Of my 4 other Android phones, I have rooted/rommed the last 3 with great results. I am comfortable with the idea, and welcome anything that enhances the experience. However, I am used to running on bottom tier phones. Rooting/Romming is a nice option, but is it necessary on the Bionic like it was on my Eris? Does the Bionic handle well out of the box?
it does very well out the box but things are always better with root IMO
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Rezanow said:
My Bionic will arrive on Monday. Of my 4 other Android phones, I have rooted/rommed the last 3 with great results. I am comfortable with the idea, and welcome anything that enhances the experience. However, I am used to running on bottom tier phones. Rooting/Romming is a nice option, but is it necessary on the Bionic like it was on my Eris? Does the Bionic handle well out of the box?
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My Bionic is my 4th Android phone and the only one I haven't rooted and may never root. Its solid out of the box. Fast as heck. To be honest I did root it once for a few hours to play with the dpi but I decided to unroot and stop tinkering with it. Part of the reason I chose this phone was because I wasn't planning on rooting or roming and wanted a solid out of the box experience. I'm running LPP on top of blur and loving it.
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My Bionic is my 4th Android phone and the only one I haven't rooted and may never root. Its solid out of the box. Fast as heck. To be honest I did root it once for a few hours to play with the dpi but I decided to unroot and stop tinkering with it. Part of the reason I chose this phone was because I wasn't planning on rooting or roming and wanted a solid out of the box experience. I'm running LPP on top of blur and loving it.
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Agreed. Best out the box phone ever.
Gotta admit, the new blur launcher kinda grew on me
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bigsapz said:
Agreed. Best out the box phone ever.
Gotta admit, the new blur launcher kinda grew on me
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Yeah I wish ADW had this blur feature on it.
I had lots of hardware problems with my thunderbolt (the reason I have this phone) but it ran better stock than the bionic. I agree that the new blur isn't as bad as it use to be it still slows these phones down. I would root and debloat at least, however I prefer a ASOP style Rom as they are the fastest.
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My Bionic will arrive on Monday. Of my 4 other Android phones, I have rooted/rommed the last 3 with great results. I am comfortable with the idea, and welcome anything that enhances the experience. However, I am used to running on bottom tier phones. Rooting/Romming is a nice option, but is it necessary on the Bionic like it was on my Eris? Does the Bionic handle well out of the box?
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After 22 months of the Eris -17 months rooted - I bought a Bionic last week and decided to run it stock for as long as possible (and definitely as long as the 14 day return period) - including the stock launcher, which isn't fantastic, but not awful. Anyway, the phone is fine out of the box, as it is. Besides the annoyance of seeing the pre-loaded apps that I do not want, including the occasional market update of those apps, the Bionic is fine.
So far no black screen of death (BSOD) for me; I'm on WiFi most of the time, but I've seen a few 3G data dropouts out and about (where I KNOW that 3G data is fine), but none since I followed this trick: http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-bionic/421050-useful-how-tos-tips.html#post3271941
(Note that this "trick" makes no sense - it's changing the default speech codec. But, no 3G data dropouts that I have noticed since I did it, so....)
As far as I know, rooting fixes neither of those problems, though perhaps I missed something. I think that we're just waiting for a fix from Motorola/VZW.
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After 22 months of the Eris -17 months rooted - I bought a Bionic last week and decided to run it stock for as long as possible (and definitely as long as the 14 day return period) - including the stock launcher, which isn't fantastic, but not awful. Anyway, the phone is fine out of the box, as it is. Besides the annoyance of seeing the pre-loaded apps that I do not want, including the occasional market update of those apps, the Bionic is fine.
So far no black screen of death (BSOD) for me; I'm on WiFi most of the time, but I've seen a few 3G data dropouts out and about (where I KNOW that 3G data is fine), but none since I followed this trick: http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-bionic/421050-useful-how-tos-tips.html#post3271941
(Note that this "trick" makes no sense - it's changing the default speech codec. But, no 3G data dropouts that I have noticed since I did it, so....)
As far as I know, rooting fixes neither of those problems, though perhaps I missed something. I think that we're just waiting for a fix from Motorola/VZW.
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On my Eris, I found KaosFroyo (Punk.Kaos was a great dev!) and ran with that for a LONG time. Made using the Eris bearable.
Thank you all for your replies! I am looking forward to getting through this weekend! =)
eraursls1984 said:
I had lots of hardware problems with my thunderbolt (the reason I have this phone) but it ran better stock than the bionic. I agree that the new blur isn't as bad as it use to be it still slows these phones down. I would root and debloat at least, however I prefer a ASOP style Rom as they are the fastest.
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Wow, I came from the same phone and my experience is completely opposite. In fact my stock Bionic runs better than my thunderbolt overclocked. Applications like LPP and car home run noticeably faster. Also Blur has a closer to aosp feel than htc sense does. I too like an aospish experience.
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The best out of the box phone I ever had was the Galaxy S 2 for AT&T. This phone is pretty good stock.
what I did though immediately is root the phone (which is the easiest i have done since the captivate) and used an app from the market to remove the bloat apps.
other than that i replaced the launcher after a week and replaced the sms (both with "Go" products) and it runs great.
It's not the processor, the screen, or the battery that makes this phone. It is the LTE and i wouldnt trade that for an LTE-less galaxy s 2 ever.
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Wow, I came from the same phone and my experience is completely opposite. In fact my stock Bionic runs better than my thunderbolt overclocked. Applications like LPP and car home run noticeably faster. Also Blur has a closer to aosp feel than htc sense does. I too like an aospish experience.
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LPP is inconsistent, on both my Droid X and T bolt it would work on some roms but it was really sluggish on others, even on updates of the same roms. I switched to go launcher because it has what I like from LPP and haven't had a problem since. With the right roms the Tbolt didn't need overclocking, with BAMF stripped and Forever 1 ghz was just as smooth as the same rom overclocked to 1.4 ghz, most other roms needed to be clocked at 1.2 or 1.4 ghz to be as smooth as those roms at 1 ghz.
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MarcMaiden said:
The best out of the box phone I ever had was the Galaxy S 2 for AT&T.
It's not the processor, the screen, or the battery that makes this phone. It is the LTE and i wouldnt trade that for an LTE-less galaxy s 2 ever.
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But it's AT&T and their LTE network is a joke.
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LPP is inconsistent, on both my Droid X and T bolt it would work on some roms but it was really sluggish on others, even on updates of the same roms. I switched to go launcher because it has what I like from LPP and haven't had a problem since. With the right roms the Tbolt didn't need overclocking, with BAMF stripped and Forever 1 ghz was just as smooth as the same rom overclocked to 1.4 ghz, most other roms needed to be clocked at 1.2 or 1.4 ghz to be as smooth as those roms at 1 ghz.
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But it's AT&T and their LTE network is a joke.
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LPP isn't inconsistent on the Bionic. I ran every tbolt rom imaginable. OMFGB and CM7 were the only ones that compared speed wise. As talented as the BAMF devs are, sense is still sense, heavy and sluggish. By the way, bamf stripped 1.7 was my all time fav tbolt rom and the BAMF devs are my favorite devs.
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Newb question (and one I am likely going to groan that I should have known the answer to): What is "LPP"?
Rezanow said:
Newb question (and one I am likely going to groan that I should have known the answer to): What is "LPP"?
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Launcher pro plus
filthy1 said:
Launcher pro plus
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/facepalm
I've been using that for a LONG time now. I should have known...
Speaking of... How do you all feel about the competing home screen replacements?
I have owned almost every Droid to come out and I used to use lpp or,adw but for some reason I have left everything pretty much stock on my bionic save for one percent battery
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I have owned almost every Droid to come out and I used to use lpp or,adw but for some reason I have left everything pretty much stock on my bionic save for one percent battery
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Ok, another newb question... "One percent battery"?
Moto defaults to 10% increments on the phone. So if your at 36% it shows you at 30%. 1% means it will show your ar 36% not 30%
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Moto defaults to 10% increments on the phone. So if your at 36% it shows you at 30%. 1% means it will show your ar 36% not 30%
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Is that something changed in the settings, or an app?
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Is that something changed in the settings, or an app?
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Zip file in development.
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Hello Everyone. I am a long time Android User, new to rooting.
Before I get too deep in this I had a general question....
I have a Droid 3 that I am finding to be slow compared to my stock Google Nexus One. I really enjoy the qwerty keyboard and don't want to go back to my Nexus, However the lag in the contacts autofill indexing and email autofill indexing is Killing Me.
I run my email, calendar, and contacts etc through the gmail/ google apps platform and REALLY want to get the speed I had with my Nexus One on my Droid3.
What would you recommend?
How can I speed this thing up and still have a very reliable phone?
I also need to be able to use the following features (which work now):
wifi hotspot
tethering
hdmi out
bluetooth
calendar
Thank you so much for any insight you can provide. I am really impressed with the knowledge base on this forum.
Much Appreciated.
I am by no means an expert in Android devices but can definitely tell you that the 'slow down' you are experiencing is due largely in part to the poor ROM/Skin that is built onto the phone by Motorola and Verizon.
I would recommend rooting and trying out one of the custom ROM's in the Android Development section.
I have an XT860 so there are no ROMs really available at this point but from my experience with my HTC Desire Z, there was a night and day difference in speed and usability of the phone after I rooted it and began using custom ROMS.
For the Droid 3, 'Steel Droid' seems to be a very popular ROM, but again I don't have any direct experience with it because its not compatible with the XT860 (Canadian GSM variant of the D3)
Hope that helped a bit...
i use steal droid its great. renaming your bloat to .bak will speed up your d3. if you do use steel droid just flash dlna back.
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
its also for flashing roms in the form of .zips
Check out this thread in the development section, it is for Steel Droid specifically but in the first post, just after the changelog, he gives pretty good instructions on how to flash the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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Be like me my friend. Just start searching around the xda forums, on google, rootzwiki, etc. Start absorbing information. I started with a normal Droid 3, and within 3 or 4 days, I found out just about everything I needed to know. You are correct about bootstrap, and it also allows you to install system files, theme files, kernel files, etc.
I would recommend Liberty. It's mostly AOSP (Android Open Source Project) which means it's not bogged down by Motocrap. It flies, you can still have some blur elements and I have not experienced a single bug.
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
Just my 2 cents, contrary to others I won't necessarily recommend flashing a CUSTOM Rom. But definitely update to the 5.6.890 to see an increase in battery life and performance, and root your phone so you can debloat.
I have seen no real improvement between custom ROMs besides the themes and user experience. however if you are satisfied with how your phone is running and have required apps you need to work, i'd just debloat the stock ROM yourself. it will be a lot faster with the bloatware frozen using an app like titanium backup. a lot of the custom ROMs end up having bugs, especially Liberty seemed to be causing trouble for some folks before the update. but basically all the speed improvements people are seeing is from the apps removed from running in the background that you don't need, so do that and youre good to go.
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I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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CHECK THIS OUT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 THEN USE THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1192795.html TO DELETE THE REST THAT THE FIRST DOESNT COVER. I KNOW THE SECOND IS FOR A DIFFERENT PHONE BUT DONT WORRY IT IDENTICAL. I PERSONALLY DELETED THEM. AFTER I CLLEANED UP DAVLIK CACHE AND MY PHONE FLIES ON STOCK ROM.
THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND MAKE YOUR CAMERA BETTER WITH THESE SIMPLE THINGS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271927&page=2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326101
techno-update said:
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
I thought we needed a modded kernel to do any CPU clocking things...?
Seirÿu said:
What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
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Set cpu will only allow you to underclock and change governor. I would only suggest switching the governor to performance, which beware will drain your battery faster, because its reported that other than stock governor and performance cause phone to act goofy.
Cannot overclock yet, we may not be ever be able to because **** bootloader locking.
Just Froze most of the bloat ware using the free Bloat Freezer in the market and am already experiencing improved performance!!! Thank you all so much!
Okay so i had the revo before this and i liked it. I rooted it and it was great, ran custom roms, and really easy to do. I just got the bionic and i have had it for about 2 weeks now and I LOVE IT!!! So my question is, and correct me if im wrong, if there are no custom kernels, and only one stable updated rom thats not buggy ics, what is the point in rooting. I should add that i dont plan on using wifi tether. I mean i use adw so my phone already "looks" like i want it to, and acts like i want it too. The only thing i think i would use is the fact that the bloatware is gone but does it really make that big of a difference? I mean if i can like make the display look better or something than of course, but if its just for the look, no performance upgrades, i dont seenthe point. Please give me your guys opinion.
Thanks for all who respond and appreciate your time
Lots of benefits to rooting. Here's a random one.
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Lots of benefits to rooting. Here's a random one.
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Yea I mean that's cool, what are the benefits of Beta over regular or a keyboard like touch pal.
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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I agree completely
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Lots of programs will have more functionality when your device is rooted. If you use a security program like SeekDroid or Avast you'll benefit from root. With root you can install custom recovery, allowing you to backup/restore your entire system. If you haven't tried a custom ROM you don't know what you're missing. Sure they are always a work in progress, but so is the Stock ROM. Try eclipse I bet you'll like it better.
Let's flip your question around: what's the disadvantage to rooting? You can always unroot.
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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I'm rooted but use stock. I'm able to replace my boot animation with something more to my liking. My status and notification bar is also customized. Having pulldown toggles is nice for turning things on and off. Being able to flash the webtop hack is nice. I've also found that I enjoy changing my font.
Besides those things, its much easier to back up some apps when your rooted. If you ever buy any apps, I suggest backing them up. Being able to make system backups is also useful.
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I have gone through quite a few android phones in the past year since becoming a smartphone user (Droid X2, HTC Thunderbolt, RAZR MAXX). I keep hearing stories of the good old days about the original DROID, and then Daily Steals decided to throw up the device in retail packaging for 70$ shipped.
Given I've recently been extremely unhappy with my RAZR since the ICS update (no adobe flash support/comp ability for embedded videos, which was the main use for my phone) I decided 70 bucks was a small gamble to try and regain my satisfaction with my daily driver.
Given the small amount of RAM is the device still able to handle the apps of today? I don't use it for much other than streaming movies and TV shows aside from web browsing.
Can I expect to use this phone or did I simply purchase a piece of cellular history to put away in a sock drawer?
Thanks for any suggestions and input!
I just recently upgraded to the galaxy s3 after using the Og Droid for 2 1/2 year's, and the droid remained faithful to the end. Although it got to the point where I really had to tweak the hell out of it for me to be happy with daily performance. But if you just going to use it for light browsing and streaming with a minimalistic lightweight setup and a few tweaks you should be good to go.
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Thanks for the response. Were there certain programs/apps you needed to tweak for?
Any recommendations or must have tweaks I should implement right off the jump?
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Thanks for the response. Were there certain programs/apps you needed to tweak for?
Any recommendations or must have tweaks I should implement right off the jump?
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Lets see where to start ...
1.I'd recommend running Cyanogenmod 7.2
2. These build.prop tweaks and other mods http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426443
3. Limit the amount of apps you have installed and move as much as you can to the external storage
4. History eraser app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...edium=organic&utm_term=history+eraser+android to remove junk files like app chace and delete browsing history to keep things running smoothly
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And holo launcher as well
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Awesome list!
I was running my droid 1 on CM7.2 nightlies and Prime's kernel at 1.1GHz. I always used TiBU to delete system components that seemed superfluous, like screen tips, theme stuff, email client, etc. This freed up some memory for the ROM.
I tried swap and v6 supercharger but gave up on them.
The OG Droid is sincerely lacking the RAM for lots of apps, but will certainly run well as a light weight daily driver. If you don't need gingerbread (and continued support of the ROM) , then check out a froyo CM release. Should be very light weight.
CM7.2 nightlies are still coming out, although now on a weekly basis. I keep my OG updated even though it is retired.
Loads of people are using Steel Droid ROM, which is still being updated by the dev. I never tried it.
-CM7 on DInc2
I was using primes kernel but for some reason it kept causing my data to drop in and out. And V6 supercharger worked well for me in the beginning but then became pretty hit and miss performance wise. But like you said keeping things light weight yet efficient is definitely the way to go.
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In a few days I'll be getting my hands on a Droid 4, looking to upgrade my media player from my Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, seeing as there's no possible way I'll be able to use this phone (AT&T) I was wondering if any of you fine folks had any kind of roms or tweaks to this device to get it as slimmed down as possible, as phone functionality is not in any way required. In addition, if someone would be able to assist me in terms of how I actually flash roms to this device, it seems to be much different than with my player (I have used Odin in the past for that)
links in my list to rooting method
use safestrap to install roms
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links for Droid 4
an update should start getting pushed, any day now
safestrap can not be installed, if you want to update
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Thanks for the quick response, I figured most if not all android devices pretty much worked the same way in terms of flashing new things, guess I was pretty far from the truth. I've heard many people are happy with Eclipse, but it seems like there's more than one version, which do you think would be better suited for battery management on idle times? On my player, with wifi off (just on standby) I can manage 4-5 days on a charge with very light usage. Is there anything that would allow me to get these kinds of times with the droid 4, despite it's much more powerful processor?
unlikely you will get several days
keep phone in airplane mode, you can still turn on wifi, but any radio on uses power
freeze any app you don't use, may be trial and error, some apps are co-dependent (remove one another stops working correct)
maybe a list of apps that can be safely removed, not sure
install safestrap, and make a nandroid backup, before making changes
freeze apps with titanium backup pro
with safestrap, you should be pretty safe, freeze /remove what you want, restore backup, if phone will not boot correctly
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Bloatware apps safe to remove on the Droid 4
Also be sure to keep an eye on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938246
It seems there's a lot of effort going on to get it working on AT&T etc.
Well if u want to do like me and keep it simple.. I didn't use safe strap. I flashed from zip on my sdcard and gradually removed apps using the safe to uninstall list as well as taking a few risks of my own. I run with 450+mb free on first boot and free memory hovers around 300mb during all day usage. Got to say I'm pretty happy with the performance. I don't have to tweak anything. Everything just works on command.
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