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[Q] Need MASSIVE help with Droid rooting

I had posted this on the Q&A forum and it was suggested I come here. Didn't want to seem completely inept, but alas, I am. Here is my questions from the original post:
I really need massive help. Obviously I am brand new to this forum and have absolutely NO idea what the jargon or codes mean in these threads. Overclocking? Rebooting into recovery? SU? Kernal version requirements? I am merely a car guy and will gladly assist in ANY and all car questions. This is what I would like to accomplish. Root the phone to delete the useless programs that are just taking up space. Namely, Amazon MP3, Facebook (don't even have an account), Goggles, Google Search, Latitude,Talk, Twitter, Voice Dialer and finally Voice Search. I figure I don't need many of these since when I do actually use most of those Voice type programs Vlingo is used. Am I wrong to delete so much? A ROM is basically the screen design layout and buttons correct? I am needing set by step (Barney style) instructions on how to accomplish what I would like to do. I currently have a Droid 1 with version 2.2.1; Build FRG83D; Kernel 2.6.32.9-g68eeef5 . If that makes any sense or helps in my quest great, if not please let me know what else is needed. I have Windows XP if that matters as well. So like I said, if you have car issues or just want a little more performance or gas mileage I can help. I'm partial to domestics, Chevy especially, but can definately assist with them all. Thanks in advance all!

I will answer the general questions and leave droid specific answers to other as i have a milestone (international version of droid).
First question:
Do you have any other reason to root besides deleting apps?
Are you running out of space?
Deleting apps will mostly let you reclaim space on your phone in order to install more applications. If you are not running out of space, this may be unnessary. This is especially true now that apps can be installed on SDCARDS. Space is now less valuable than it once was.
Another typical reason to root your phone is overclocking. This means running your phone at a higher speed than normal. This will help with games and general responsivness/snappiness of the phone. Potential side effect are higher heat and reduced lifespan of the phone. but if you are following advice here, you are most likely safe.
By the way, a ROM is a combination of operating system and applications. People customize a system image (programs, speed, themes, art, configurations) and distribue it as a ROM.
I hope this clears a few things up.
I am only asking because most people root their phones t
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I don't know what else is possible honestly to do after rooting other than deletion of the apps. My phone has at bet 60M or so of space when using task killer. I see the new phones have huge internal memory by comparison. I have moved every app over to my SD that I can. It does seem to move much more slowly than it did when I first got the phone back in April, maybe overclocking is a good idea? How much does it hurt your phone permanently. I'm used to holding a phone for two years at a time now. Thank you very much for the input. Is Milestone so far different that your methods won't work for me?

mySStery_machine said:
I don't know what else is possible honestly to do after rooting other than deletion of the apps. My phone has at bet 60M or so of space when using task killer. I see the new phones have huge internal memory by comparison. I have moved every app over to my SD that I can. It does seem to move much more slowly than it did when I first got the phone back in April, maybe overclocking is a good idea? How much does it hurt your phone permanently. I'm used to holding a phone for two years at a time now. Thank you very much for the input. Is Milestone so far different that your methods won't work for me?
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Overclocking will make you phone feel like a new phone.
It is not VERY risky, but it most likely voids your warranty.
It is also not an all or nothinh deal. There are degrees of overclocking. For example, most phones in the droid/milestone series are set (factory setting) to around 550mhz. Many people set their phones all the way up to 1ghz (1000mhz). I don't.
I run mine at a max of 800. The phone runs cooler and the battery lasts longer.
I dont know how different the droid and milestone are. I really dont want to mislead you with bad info. You should break down your searches into bite sized pieces. Root first, then overclock.
I am certain that good guides are available on the site to root/overclock a droid.
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[Q] Speeding up a Droid 3?

Hello Everyone. I am a long time Android User, new to rooting.
Before I get too deep in this I had a general question....
I have a Droid 3 that I am finding to be slow compared to my stock Google Nexus One. I really enjoy the qwerty keyboard and don't want to go back to my Nexus, However the lag in the contacts autofill indexing and email autofill indexing is Killing Me.
I run my email, calendar, and contacts etc through the gmail/ google apps platform and REALLY want to get the speed I had with my Nexus One on my Droid3.
What would you recommend?
How can I speed this thing up and still have a very reliable phone?
I also need to be able to use the following features (which work now):
wifi hotspot
tethering
hdmi out
bluetooth
calendar
Thank you so much for any insight you can provide. I am really impressed with the knowledge base on this forum.
Much Appreciated.

I am by no means an expert in Android devices but can definitely tell you that the 'slow down' you are experiencing is due largely in part to the poor ROM/Skin that is built onto the phone by Motorola and Verizon.
I would recommend rooting and trying out one of the custom ROM's in the Android Development section.
I have an XT860 so there are no ROMs really available at this point but from my experience with my HTC Desire Z, there was a night and day difference in speed and usability of the phone after I rooted it and began using custom ROMS.
For the Droid 3, 'Steel Droid' seems to be a very popular ROM, but again I don't have any direct experience with it because its not compatible with the XT860 (Canadian GSM variant of the D3)
Hope that helped a bit...

i use steal droid its great. renaming your bloat to .bak will speed up your d3. if you do use steel droid just flash dlna back.

I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!

its also for flashing roms in the form of .zips

Check out this thread in the development section, it is for Steel Droid specifically but in the first post, just after the changelog, he gives pretty good instructions on how to flash the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056

johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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Be like me my friend. Just start searching around the xda forums, on google, rootzwiki, etc. Start absorbing information. I started with a normal Droid 3, and within 3 or 4 days, I found out just about everything I needed to know. You are correct about bootstrap, and it also allows you to install system files, theme files, kernel files, etc.

I would recommend Liberty. It's mostly AOSP (Android Open Source Project) which means it's not bogged down by Motocrap. It flies, you can still have some blur elements and I have not experienced a single bug.

U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.

Just my 2 cents, contrary to others I won't necessarily recommend flashing a CUSTOM Rom. But definitely update to the 5.6.890 to see an increase in battery life and performance, and root your phone so you can debloat.
I have seen no real improvement between custom ROMs besides the themes and user experience. however if you are satisfied with how your phone is running and have required apps you need to work, i'd just debloat the stock ROM yourself. it will be a lot faster with the bloatware frozen using an app like titanium backup. a lot of the custom ROMs end up having bugs, especially Liberty seemed to be causing trouble for some folks before the update. but basically all the speed improvements people are seeing is from the apps removed from running in the background that you don't need, so do that and youre good to go.

johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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CHECK THIS OUT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 THEN USE THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1192795.html TO DELETE THE REST THAT THE FIRST DOESNT COVER. I KNOW THE SECOND IS FOR A DIFFERENT PHONE BUT DONT WORRY IT IDENTICAL. I PERSONALLY DELETED THEM. AFTER I CLLEANED UP DAVLIK CACHE AND MY PHONE FLIES ON STOCK ROM.
THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND MAKE YOUR CAMERA BETTER WITH THESE SIMPLE THINGS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271927&page=2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326101

techno-update said:
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...

I thought we needed a modded kernel to do any CPU clocking things...?

Seirÿu said:
What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
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Set cpu will only allow you to underclock and change governor. I would only suggest switching the governor to performance, which beware will drain your battery faster, because its reported that other than stock governor and performance cause phone to act goofy.
Cannot overclock yet, we may not be ever be able to because **** bootloader locking.

Just Froze most of the bloat ware using the free Bloat Freezer in the market and am already experiencing improved performance!!! Thank you all so much!

Why should I root my Bionic?

So I just finally ditched my old faithful HTC Eris. It served me well for the last couple years but it was definitely an antique as far as smartphones go.
My Eris was rooted as soon as I could in order to mess with the CPU clocks and improve battery life as well as run newer versions of Android.
Now with my Bionic it appears that underclocking/undervolting isn't possible.
It's also running 2.3 stock. I'm running Launcher Pro to hide the bloatware.
So what advantages are there to obtaining root right now?

Adfree Android, Titanium Backup, and mobile hotspot. It also becomes possible to clear the battery stats for better calibration and freeze or outright remove the bloat (though freezing is a better solution, generally). You can also do things like replace the built-in Swype with the beta, which is significantly improved.

Sent you a PM on the subject.

To get rid of the bloatware better battery life and mobile hotspot would be my top three reasons to root/rom a bionic
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MillionManMosh said:
Adfree Android, Titanium Backup, and mobile hotspot. It also becomes possible to clear the battery stats for better calibration and freeze or outright remove the bloat (though freezing is a better solution, generally). You can also do things like replace the built-in Swype with the beta, which is significantly improved.
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I'll 2nd that notion. The Swype beta is soo much nicer / better looking interface than the one that comes pre-installed on the phone. I've been running it since I rooted.
Just remember to make a back-up copy of the original swype.apk and lib swype file. You'll need to re-install them if you install any of the OTA updates b/c of the verification checks.

Spend a few minutes and do a search on the topic. This has been beaten to death
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Benifits of rooting the bionic

Okay so i had the revo before this and i liked it. I rooted it and it was great, ran custom roms, and really easy to do. I just got the bionic and i have had it for about 2 weeks now and I LOVE IT!!! So my question is, and correct me if im wrong, if there are no custom kernels, and only one stable updated rom thats not buggy ics, what is the point in rooting. I should add that i dont plan on using wifi tether. I mean i use adw so my phone already "looks" like i want it to, and acts like i want it too. The only thing i think i would use is the fact that the bloatware is gone but does it really make that big of a difference? I mean if i can like make the display look better or something than of course, but if its just for the look, no performance upgrades, i dont seenthe point. Please give me your guys opinion.
Thanks for all who respond and appreciate your time

Lots of benefits to rooting. Here's a random one.

tuckmobile said:
Lots of benefits to rooting. Here's a random one.
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Yea I mean that's cool, what are the benefits of Beta over regular or a keyboard like touch pal.
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................

Sir_Eagle said:
Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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I agree completely
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Lots of programs will have more functionality when your device is rooted. If you use a security program like SeekDroid or Avast you'll benefit from root. With root you can install custom recovery, allowing you to backup/restore your entire system. If you haven't tried a custom ROM you don't know what you're missing. Sure they are always a work in progress, but so is the Stock ROM. Try eclipse I bet you'll like it better.
Let's flip your question around: what's the disadvantage to rooting? You can always unroot.

Sir_Eagle said:
Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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I'm rooted but use stock. I'm able to replace my boot animation with something more to my liking. My status and notification bar is also customized. Having pulldown toggles is nice for turning things on and off. Being able to flash the webtop hack is nice. I've also found that I enjoy changing my font.
Besides those things, its much easier to back up some apps when your rooted. If you ever buy any apps, I suggest backing them up. Being able to make system backups is also useful.
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How to get a buttery experience w/ our phone

Since I have gotten this phone I have noticed an influx of complaints about how slow and laggy this phone is due to it's low RAM. I too have experienced these same issues as everyone else. After using the Galaxy S 3 since July it was hard not treating this phone like it was a power house. Well this phone obviously isn't, and as Android OS and Apps are advancing the slower this phone is going to seem. Remembering what life was like when I had the Samsung Intercept on Virgin Mobile I was able to get some what of a buttery experience with this phone. So I am just going to share my set up and what I am doing, and other's may share their experience. My hopes is that we can all learn what to do and what not to do and somewhere in between. I am no expert and do hope to learn some pointers from people more experiences and more qualified than me
#1 I am using a light weight rom, slim bean 4.1 to be exact I am sure any rom will do, but with this phone I would assume less is more in terms of performance. Also play around see what works best for you, ,GB, ICS, JB4.1, JB4.2. There is no best rom just best rom for you. Once you find one that works for you golden!
#2 Since I am using Jellybean I went into developers options(to enable go to about phone and tap build number 7 times) and I set the background process limit to 4. My reasoning is I dont' want to forfeit multi tasking all together but it's very apparent that this phone can only handle so much. You can also set it "don't keep activies" which wont allow any multi tasking like old school iOS.
#3 I use Android built in task manager to exit out of applications I am using quite frequently. If you hold the home button for an extended period of time the task manager will appear. (maybe different depending on which rom you use)
#3 don't overload this phone with apps, not only do we have limited storage for apps, but the more apps that run in the back ground the slower that it takes. What I did is many apps are basically short cuts to website for instance bank of america. What I did was in the stock browser I bookmarked the website, and then made a short cut to my desktop. I also changed icon to something similar to what the app icon would look like. Not all launchers support changing the icon. I did the same with facebook as it is often runing in the background. If you don't use Navigation uninstalling google maps might be a good idea. If you play games delete all processes before and after playing
#4 A lot of games take up a lot of resources so if you must play games especially one that uses a lot of power than maybe a good idea to delete processes before and after game usage. If the game(or any app for that matter) is constantly freezing than perhaps you should just delete it.
#5 don't use a launcher that takes up a lot of memory, the lighter the better. Stock launcher is probably a safe bet. I use Espire launher(iOS launcher), I know Atom would also be a good one. Stay away from any 3D launcher anything with eye candy imo is bad idea. In my experience Go Laucher, mihome, Launcher7/8 are memory hogs, I mean if they slowed down my old GS3 just imagine our phone. Although with Launher 7/8 If you were disable the live tiles it may run smoother. My opinion though is what's the point. The live tile's is the reason what attracted me to those launchers in the past. In the end just use what works for you
#6 If the phone starts acting up go ahead and reboot,
#7 If using a rom that supports theme's try not to use them, often times I have run into many so called bugs that magically disapeared when reverting back to system theme. Right now I am using xperia cm10.1 and so far no issue's what so ever
#8 I disabled Google Now, my experience has shown me that our phones aren't capable of handling it. Google now is constantly running in the back ground and I suspect causing the phone to slow down, freeze, or just randomly reboot.
#9 I do not use live wallpaper, nor do I use any widgets. I love widgets and depending on the widget may not use any extra resources. That being said for me on this phone I would rather be safe than sorry
#10 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
This has improved my phone greatly. Make sure your ROM meets the requirements and doesn't have any tweaks.
Using these methods I get decent performance, and battery life. This is no GS3 so I believe to get the most out of this phone you really have baby it to get the most out of it. I believe the issue is with how little Ram this phone has. I have had the HTC Mytouch 4g and I never had this issue. The MT4G also had almost a gig of Ram. I don't believe it's the processer as there are many 1GHZ single core processing phones that do not have the FC/Freezing issues we have.

Try CM7
I have been using Slimbean 4.1 and 4.2 too for the past few weeks and I have experienced frequent lag spikes when multitasking which sometimes drived me crazy. Recently, my phone was stuck in a bootloop while I was out of town so I had to flash CM7 and I was surprised at how buttery it felt. Overall, I really like the performance (although I do miss some features of JB) and I strongly advise you to try it out.

jin03002 said:
I have been using Slimbean 4.1 and 4.2 too for the past few weeks and I have experienced frequent lag spikes when multitasking which sometimes drived me crazy. Recently, my phone was stuck in a bootloop while I was out of town so I had to flash CM7 and I was surprised at how buttery it felt. Overall, I really like the performance (although I do miss some features of JB) and I strongly advise you to try it out.
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To each his/her own. I am not interested in gingerbread unless absolutely necessary. I think many of the problems are with Google now
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Try a shot of Nos then Tell me how u feel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
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It says twrp is not recommended any reason why? I am using slim bean 4.1 should work I'll have to read the thread to make sure it has no conflicting tweaks...excited to see if this helps
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md1008 said:
It says twrp is not recommended any reason why? I am using slim bean 4.1 should work I'll have to read the thread to make sure it has no conflicting tweaks...excited to see if this helps
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Smartguy used TWRP and says it works just fine. Just make a nandroid as always in case you have an issue, I don't think you will though. Just be sure to disable any task killers if you use them.

It works flawlessly in twrp
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hatememarkz said:
Try a shot of Nos then Tell me how u feel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
JELLYBAM DAMN™
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Works really well on slim bean 4.1. For list of possible ways to improve this phone. Had to disable start up tweaks
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Anytime i can help i miss thus phone
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