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Hi Guys,
I'm looking at buying a Samsung Galaxy S2 from someone over the internet. I'm not sure of the exact origin of the phone, but I'd like to make sure that it works in Canada. I'm on Rogers and I want to make sure that it works on the 3G/HSPA network here. I bought a UK HTC phone in the past and it would only operate on EDGE.
Here are a few pictures the seller sent me. Is there anything else I should be asking or is this good enough evidence that it will work?
http://imgur.com/a/YDNHi
http://imgur.com/a/pOzFP
Thanks!
The uk galaxy s2's work on rogers 3g just fine, think its only the asian version that doesn't have the correct bands for rogers/att.
thanks.
I'm gonna take the plunge.
lasersocks said:
thanks.
I'm gonna take the plunge.
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keep us updated im on the diving board waiting
sure thing... I'll let you know when it shows up.
lasersocks said:
thanks.
I'm gonna take the plunge.
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I heard the battery issue is worse than galaxy s and it gets quite hot too.
I have T-Mobile and am in US.... I really am interested in the Galaxy note and am wondering if it is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G/"4G"/HSPA+ network? I don't know what these frequency bands mean for compatibility ...
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
cadavar said:
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
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That is exactly the response I was looking for in terms of technicality goes.
Thank you very much!
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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Hello all,
This is interesting. Is there anyways to confirm that Indian version will have "Penta" band?
I read that Note will launch in India on 3nd November. May be will have to wait to find out.
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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i can't find anything to suggest any carrier in India uses the 1700/2100 bands needed for T-Mo (US) 3G to work anyway. so it must be about something else.
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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There are many bands for UTMS, and t-mobile USA is the only one that uses 1700.
Odds are, even if it is pentaband, it still won't support 1700. It might, but it's unlikely.
- Frank
Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
I've been researching a bit and it seems that the files are about the same on these phones, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. That being said, I am in no way an expert, but I hope someone with more knowledge will chime in on this and give us a concrete answer.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
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phone frequency band is hardware specific. if the crystal is not tuned for the frequency, theres nothing you can do to make the phone to accept it
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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I think that for now is the best idea
I still want this and thinking hard about pulling the trigger and just buying. Has anybody bought this on tmobiles network yet.
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You will only get Edge speeds.
There is no need to confirm anything.
Hardware IS HARDWARE.
I would not consider getting T-Mobile's version of this for the sole fact that they'll mess it up by putting a pair of 1.8 ghz Qualcomm chip in there to support their 42mbps network.
It will be garbage once that happens.
At this point, you either accept it as being Edge only on T-Mobile's network, or you don't get it altogether.
Yeah I know it only works on edge but if a million iphone users are using it then it might be usable but I kinda want a real world test of the Internet and not just specs since that's the only thing that's holding me back
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torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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You could ditch T-Mob, or not worth it? I would leave my carrier for the Note.
I made an inquiry about the Note coming to T mobile directly to someone I know at Samsung. He did get back to me and said they have figured a way around the present problem with the present chip configuration and will come out with a version that will be 1700/2100 compatible. BUT, not soon (2012) and probably will be the next version of this type of 5" + smart phone ....... So it is edge only on TMO for now..............
By the time they actually get to bring something like that out the quad core chips will be out and other makers might bring out something similar hopefully.
Howdy all?
Currently I am using Dell Streak which actually was launched for AT&T. So I was only getting TMo's EDGE speed on my Streak. Which for me was not a big deal because I would only have to deal with slow speed while I am either away from home or work.
Some might find it silly, but what I did was, removed my data portion which was with the phone and actually got TMo's 4g hotspot. And I carried both, my Streak and hotspot always with me. Which for me works out alright.
So i'm in the market for a nice 7 inch tablet, and obviously a galaxy tab is going to be a forethought in my mind... I've done some reading on various tablets so far, and what i've read about the tab, it seems there are some versions that have more development on them.
My question is what is the best model of tab to be hunting for? verizon tab, att, sprint? and i guess a model number could be helpful. Is the wifi only version one even worth considering? if so what model?
i really would hate to have to hunt for a carrier specific tab, since those seem to go for ~500 easy, which is way too much for a 7" tablet imo.
thanks for any info on this subject.
Depends which carrier you are on, if you want to use mobile data. T-Mobile is not compatible with at&t and sprint is cdma.
Some nice deals out there if you know what you want and are patient. Mine was under $200
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Andrew_Low said:
Depends which carrier you are on, if you want to use mobile data. T-Mobile is not compatible with at&t and sprint is cdma.
Some nice deals out there if you know what you want and are patient. Mine was under $200
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what version is it? and what model?
are you able to update it to later versions (2.3?) and use custom roms?
i dont care about any specific carrier in general, but i would like to be able to connect a tab to an ad-hoc network.
the original galaxy tab model is GT-P1000, it have android 2.3.3, can be upgraded to 2.3.7 trought cm7 or BOCA roms, and theres an android 4.0 port unofficial but very smooth.
ROMS:
MIUI
BOCA
Overcome
CM7
and many others, check the development section.
pd: sorry my english.
My particular tab is a p1000r - tied to Roger's up in Canada. Basically the same as the AT&T model.
Spend some time on the forums and hit up Wikipedia for the differences.
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I am positive that I came across a thread in the Skyrocket section that was titled for and provided a tool to port any Skyrocket ROM to ....? (some device that I can't recall). I can't find it now (been searching about 45 mins) but am positive it was there. Anyone know what I am referring to?
My point to the above is that it would seem with the similar hardware that tool could be used (with some modification) to port to the i957. I have a current interest in this as I hope to pick an i957 up soon.
*I came across the tool because I recently got an ATT Note and DT at droidhive ported a Skyrocket rom to it (which was showing before droidhive was hacked). I went looking around to see what was interesting in the skyrocket area here and found the tool. Really wish I would have noted the url.
Jiggity Janx said:
I am positive that I came across a thread in the Skyrocket section that was titled for and provided a tool to port any Skyrocket ROM to ....? (some device that I can't recall). I can't find it now (been searching about 45 mins) but am positive it was there. Anyone know what I am referring to?
My point to the above is that it would seem with the similar hardware that tool could be used (with some modification) to port to the i957. I have a current interest in this as I hope to pick an i957 up soon.
*I came across the tool because I recently got an ATT Note and DT at droidhive ported a Skyrocket rom to it (which was showing before droidhive was hacked). I went looking around to see what was interesting in the skyrocket area here and found the tool. Really wish I would have noted the url.
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I have both the skyrocket and the i957. I believe the thread you are referring to was a tool to port T989 (Tmobile) to I727 (ATT) and vice versa. I am also interested in porting skyrocket roms to the i957. I think the difficulty lies in the fact that the i957 only has a honeycomb kernel, and using the skyrocket ICS kernel could cause a brick. I would like to look into it further though, and may inquire within the skyrocket forums later today.
Yeah finally found the hellraiser tool again. Forgot they never released hc source so porting is a pain. Good luck with the other forum. I got my Note the day ics rolled out so maybe i will buy the 957 soon and bring us all some good fortune.
Jiggity Janx said:
Yeah finally found the hellraiser tool again. Forgot they never released hc source so porting is a pain. Good luck with the other forum. I got my Note the day ics rolled out so maybe i will buy the 957 soon and bring us all some good fortune.
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Kernel source for the Honeycomb i957 kernel can be had directly from Samsung's open source release site:
http://opensource.samsung.com
Yea hc source has been out a while
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That's right. They were going to release it after ICS. Been that long since I thought about it although I think now only having HC on a tablet I'm buying will keep me up every night. :crying:
Jiggity Janx said:
That's right. They were going to release it after ICS. Been that long since I thought about it although I think now only having HC on a tablet I'm buying will keep me up every night. :crying:
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Honeycomb is actually pretty sweet on a tablet, and the i957 ICS update from Samsung is currently in test at ATT.
If you want a hacker's tablet, get a tegra-based tab already supported by Cyanogenmod
nrvate said:
Honeycomb is actually pretty sweet on a tablet, and the i957 ICS update from Samsung is currently in test at ATT.
If you want a hacker's tablet, get a tegra-based tab already supported by Cyanogenmod
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Thanks for the heads up but I def have done a lot of research. I want the ATT LTE version for the cpu (not a tegra fan). I'm not even on ATT so I will just use it with my vzw Mifi like my Note. I really wish Verizon would get a phone with a decent screen size (phablet). I know the dev community for the i957 is small but will be fine with it at least on ICS with it debloated and deodexed. I don't want honeycomb because I always immed increase the dpi in ics/jb so nothing shows in tablet mode. I can't stand tablet mode and small icons.
*Plus since it's Qualcomm I'm hoping I can reverse the work done getting Bionic to work on GSM and maybe get this puppy and my Note working on Verizon. Maybe not possible but I'm willing to tinker...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714
EDIT: Unlike GSM the CDMA networks have a database of MEID/ESN numbers that they allow to activate. Maybe I can get away with using my SIM that's already activated in a verizon phone. Part of the trick is to not go through the activation when updating the radio. Who knows...
Jiggity Janx said:
I can't stand tablet mode and small icons.
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100% with you on this, I hate having to wear glasses to read crap on my tab. A big part of the reason I got it is so I can read on it and pinch zoom the text bigger, but more than half the apps are unreadable.
I can't wait til you get this working.
check the note dev area, there is a tut for tmobile 3g, i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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dan-htc-touch said:
check the note dev area, there is a tut for tmobile 3g, i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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Interesting! That gives me ideas.
dan-htc-touch said:
check the note dev area, there is a tut for tmobile 3g, i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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Hopefully this means if I can get my Note working on vzw using the reverse qualcomm hack for bionic I can flash the radio to the 8.9 and that would work as well. Already excited about trying this stuff out and don't even have a 8.9 yet.
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Hopefully this means if I can get my Note working on vzw using the reverse qualcomm hack for bionic I can flash the radio to the 8.9 and that would work as well. Already excited about trying this stuff out and don't even have a 8.9 yet.
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What's the point of different radios?
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orlandoxpolice said:
What's the point of different radios?
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If at&t note radios work on the 8.9 that just might open the door for a working phone.
Big emphasis on maybe.
Otherwise I dunno.
dan-htc-touch said:
i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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Jiggity Janx said:
Hopefully this means if I can get my Note working on vzw using the reverse qualcomm hack for bionic I can flash the radio to the 8.9 and that would work as well.
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If at&t note radios work on the 8.9 that just might open the door for a working phone.
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If dan-htc has already flashed Note radios on the 8.9 then likely flashing the current Note radio would be a step toward getting working ATT network phone capability on the 8.9. Not sure about the required hardware related pieces that may or may not exist in the 8.9.
For my purposes - There is a firmware hack that gets a qualcomm chipset with only cdma radio firmware to work on a gsm network. I'm hoping the similar qualcomm chipset found in the Note and/or 8.9 currently only with gsm radio firmware can be hacked to work on a cdma network. I only need the hack to allow for data so any additional hardware in the device that may be required for voice won't matter.
So basically I hope to get an ATT Note and/or ATT 8.9 working with a VZW sim card for data.
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So basically I hope to get an ATT Note and/or ATT 8.9 working with a VZW sim card for data.
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Did you ever get this working? I'm particularly interested in getting the tab 8. 9 working with a verizon sim
First post, noob post, searched the forum found things that are similar to my question but not a definite answer.
I just got my hands on an HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition from the US and the 4G LTE frequency on it is 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
And where I currently live the 4G LTE connectivity is 800/1800/2600 MHz.
I did some reading and found out that my device is considered as HTC ONE M7UL
And the UL falls within the 801s category and in turn that supports my 4G LTE category.
Added to that it has the same modem of MDM9125.
Taking that into consideration, is it possible to do whatever to make my phone's frequency compatible with my service provider. As for my understanding the frequencies in the device have been blocked for the US market, can I do something to make it work?
I have never flashed, rooted or did anything to an Android phone because I am completely lost and this is my first Android device coming from an iPhone.
So, your help will be much appreciated into guiding me with the correct information to help me out.
The previous information was from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
Thank you to OP.
I haven't seen any posts that have tried flashing radios to change the bands supported. I'm still sceptical that it could work.
Plus, I think you read the table wrong, and I know of at least one error in that table.
BenPope said:
I haven't seen any posts that have tried flashing radios to change the bands supported. I'm still sceptical that it could work.
Plus, I think you read the table wrong, and I know of at least one error in that table.
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Thank you for your reply...Well, I'm not certain of the error you are talking about but at least it is worth a shot to flash it!!
Will save a lot of users the hassle of waiting for another version of the phone!
StrikerAMG said:
First post, noob post, searched the forum found things that are similar to my question but not a definite answer.
I just got my hands on an HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition from the US and the 4G LTE frequency on it is 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
And where I currently live the 4G LTE connectivity is 800/1800/2600 MHz.
I did some reading and found out that my device is considered as HTC ONE M7UL
And the UL falls within the 801s category and in turn that supports my 4G LTE category.
Added to that it has the same modem of MDM9125.
Taking that into consideration, is it possible to do whatever to make my phone's frequency compatible with my service provider. As for my understanding the frequencies in the device have been blocked for the US market, can I do something to make it work?
I have never flashed, rooted or did anything to an Android phone because I am completely lost and this is my first Android device coming from an iPhone.
So, your help will be much appreciated into guiding me with the correct information to help me out.
The previous information was from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
Thank you to OP.
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From what I have read, the dev has a different supporting chip for the bands than the international version. I don't think flashing anything will help.
stevedebi said:
From what I have read, the dev has a different supporting chip for the bands than the international version. I don't think flashing anything will help.
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Oh well, I'm not much of a developer. I guess I will sell this one and get another one!
Thank you for your help guys!
StrikerAMG said:
Oh well, I'm not much of a developer. I guess I will sell this one and get another one!
Thank you for your help guys!
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If only I don't have an HTC One I'm willing to get that. I too have those LTE frequencies but I'm willing to sacrifice LTE for an additional storage. But too late already have a 32gb EU version which has matching 4g frequencies for your network but meh! Only 32gb storage.
Riyal said:
If only I don't have an HTC One I'm willing to get that. I too have those LTE frequencies but I'm willing to sacrifice LTE for an additional storage. But too late already have a 32gb EU version which has matching 4g frequencies for your network but meh! Only 32gb storage.
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I just put an order for a Black HTC One 64GB with matching LTE frequencies. It covers 1800/2600MHz which is where I live; Bahrain is under the 1800 range.
I can never downgrade from a 64GB haha.. My ONE X+ was FULL.. 32GB would drive me crazy haha!!
Now, I think I'll hang around this form to do some flashing business, sounds like fun haha!!!
Anyway, our LTE network isn't that great because they just started up a few months back and the reception is rather poor but it spikes up to 60mbps!
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Oh well, I'm not much of a developer. I guess I will sell this one and get another one!
Thank you for your help guys!
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That would be safe, but you may want to wait a couple of weeks to see if a solution develops to flash radios.
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stevedebi said:
That would be safe, but you may want to wait a couple of weeks to see if a solution develops to flash radios.
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I'm pretty sure it is possible because it's a UL device and shares all the same features that the US/Canada/Asia/Middle East/Australia/Europe have got... So, that shouldn't be an issue.. It's a tiny little thing inside the system that needs to be smacked with a nice flash.
Hopefully, someone comes up with this ASAP and makes life much more easier to buy a device from anywhere in the world and not get screwed like me!!:good:
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I'm pretty sure it is possible because it's a UL device and shares all the same features that the US/Canada/Asia/Middle East/Australia/Europe have got... So, that shouldn't be an issue.. It's a tiny little thing inside the system that needs to be smacked with a nice flash.
Hopefully, someone comes up with this ASAP and makes life much more easier to buy a device from anywhere in the world and not get screwed like me!!:good:
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There was a post that showed pictures of a couple of different variants of the One. They had a different support chip that worked with the generic radio chip. So there is a possibility that hardware may keep the variants from cross flashing. We just don't know. It is also possible that it is simply software flashing somewhere in the various partitions.
If we get a US T-Mobile RRU and it gets to be flashed over a different model, then we will know.
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There was a post that showed pictures of a couple of different variants of the One. They had a different support chip that worked with the generic radio chip. So there is a possibility that hardware may keep the variants from cross flashing. We just don't know. It is also possible that it is simply software flashing somewhere in the various partitions.
If we get a US T-Mobile RRU and it gets to be flashed over a different model, then we will know.
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Awesome. I'm also interested in this. I got the US Developer version but live in Asia (but travel to the US often). Would be nice to use LTE in both places with the same phone. I absolutely love this phone though. Much nicer than my S3...
drfonta said:
Awesome. I'm also interested in this. I got the US Developer version but live in Asia (but travel to the US often). Would be nice to use LTE in both places with the same phone. I absolutely love this phone though. Much nicer than my S3...
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I went with the TMO model rather than Dev, but it would be great to be able to flash for whatever region of the world that is desired. Hopefully it will happen!
[Q] Do you have this problem as well then ?
StrikerAMG said:
First post, noob post, searched the forum found things that are similar to my question but not a definite answer.
I just got my hands on an HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition from the US and the 4G LTE frequency on it is 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
And where I currently live the 4G LTE connectivity is 800/1800/2600 MHz.
I did some reading and found out that my device is considered as HTC ONE M7UL
And the UL falls within the 801s category and in turn that supports my 4G LTE category.
Added to that it has the same modem of MDM9125.
Taking that into consideration, is it possible to do whatever to make my phone's frequency compatible with my service provider. As for my understanding the frequencies in the device have been blocked for the US market, can I do something to make it work?
I have never flashed, rooted or did anything to an Android phone because I am completely lost and this is my first Android device coming from an iPhone.
So, your help will be much appreciated into guiding me with the correct information to help me out.
The previous information was from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
Thank you to OP.
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Greetings,
I wonder... if you own a Developers Edition outside the US, and basically have the same frequency bands as we have over here, would you perchance also be having the issue described in this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44218727
Or is it working just fine for you ?
Of course, these questions are useless if you have gotten rid of it already
Kind regards,
Ghost.