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EDIT: 09/09/2010
The Wiki is comming along nicely, a thank you is in order to everyone who contributed. Of course it can always be improved, as such I am keeping the original post below. While we still don't have a great following for the DX on XDA we at least have a nice and organized page in which you can find links to the major breakthroughs and how-to's. If you are new to the DX and are looking for a place to begin, thanks to the fine people on this forum the XDA Droid X WIKI (Found Here) is a great place to begin
As new things are discovered for the Droid X we encourage you to add them to the Droid X WIKI, it can always be removed later if need be. It is a great start however. Thank You all, and good work.
From Sleuth255: Just a quick (slightly off topic) note to also say that XDA mods are here to help. The basis of XDA-developers is after all, development, and it is within device specific development forums such as this that all the magic happens. So here is my promise to all Droid X/Android XDA developers using the facilities of this forum: If you need help keeping a development thread "on topic", PM me and I'll place XDA's cosmic moderating powers at your disposal. Obviously, there's give and take here; we're a community based on idea sharing after all, but the point remains: Let's work together to make the Dx something truly amazing.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have more reading to do so I can further acquire "mad Dx/Android skills" without having to resort to noob tactics.
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So I have just come from my Droid Incredible... Yesterday as a matter of fact... And could not help but notice the complete lack of organization of all significant breakthroughs for the Droid X. As well as a lack of anything at all in the WIKI.
It actual made me miss the XDA Droid Incredible forum, which was a joke in comparison to the XDA Droid (original) forum... Point being it doesn't say a lot for our Droid X Forum...
SO! I figured I would put out a request to get this forum a bit more organized, even if that means doing so through the XDA Droid X wiki. At least here we can place links to the most significant breakthroughs, etc. I will start working on it myself as soon as I locate some of the more important breakthroughs, such as root, bootloader, Froyo upgrade and downgrade, and any others.
Find the Droid X WIKI Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Motorola_Droid_X.png
I invite everyone to help, after all not everyone was reading the forum from the start, and just for kicks some time, try searching "root" on any of these forums, you might as well just start scrolling through the pages without searching, because you'll get about the same number of results...
EDIT: So I have decided it is not the lack of effort for this forum as much as the number of occupants. Even the Droid Incredible Development forum (which is considered to be a phone lacking development backing) is being viewed by around 200 people at the moment of writing this. Ours (DX Development) currently only has 20 occupants... I have yet to see a phone in which XDA was not the main forum used for communication, perhaps this is the first?...
CaptainTaco said:
So I have just come from my Droid Incredible... Yesterday as a matter of fact... And could not help but notice the complete lack of organization of all significant breakthroughs for the Droid X. As well as a lack of anything at all in the WIKI.
It actual made me miss the XDA Droid Incredible forum, which was a joke in comparison to the XDA Droid (original) forum... Point being it doesn't say a lot for our Droid X Forum...
SO! I figured I would put out a request to get this forum a bit more organized, even if that means doing so through the XDA Droid X wiki. At least here we can place links to the most significant breakthroughs, etc. I will start working on it myself as soon as I locate some of the more important breakthroughs, such as root, bootloader, Froyo upgrade and downgrade, and any others.
Find the Droid X WIKI Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Motorola_Droid_X.png
I invite everyone to help, after all not everyone was reading the forum from the start, and just for kicks some time, try searching "root" on any of these forums, you might as well just start scrolling through the pages without searching, because you'll get about the same number of results...
EDIT: So I have decided it is not the lack of effort for this forum as much as the number of occupants. Even the Droid Incredible Development forum (which is considered to be a phone lacking development backing) is being viewed by around 200 people at the moment of writing this. Ours (DX Development) currently only has 20 occupants... I have yet to see a phone in which XDA was not the main forum used for communication, perhaps this is the first?...
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You are correct.. I am sad as well coming from the HTC touch where the XDA following was huge...
There isn't so much love for the X here on XDA and you are not alone in hoping it changes!
I'll help out when I get back in town tonight. This place is not user friendly.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
**EDIT** - I just updated it with some standard info... more will come soon.
BUMP!!!
This thread needs to be stickied!!!
Yeah I agree... Seems like a popular enough phone, apparently not with the devs though. So, I have decided to go ahead and start building my own rom. My first theme is almost done too...
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
Ill give a helping hand...
I agree, with everyone who has posted so far. I'm bummed that there aren't people flooding these X forums... I'm not great at development or anything, but have done a decent amount of information compiling for the Wiki at the server lab I manage, and would be willing to help contribute in any way I can!
Agreed.
I usually lurk around in XDA, but it is the first place I check out DX info.
I'll help with whatever I can.
NOOB would love to help
Although I am not new to XDA forums, ( I owe my sanity to you guys for getting me through some of the hairy spots in the WinMo days), I am totally new to Android. I started with the HTC Aria, then got tired of AT&T's BS, so I went to Verizon (where I now have 3G in my home!!). I started there with the Droid 2 but I wanted a better screen and the extra memory so I just picked up my Droid X (after waiting 3 weeks) today. I'm excited, but I know that there are deficiencies - such as no update yet for the DX.
I don't know what I can do to help, but I've always learned that the best way to get acquainted with something is to sometimes just dive in with both feet. I'm just a lowly System Admin Manager for an IT company. DROID X excites me and we truly do need to bring in whatever is needed to get our membership to a level that's worthy of Moto's 'flagship' phone.
Just let me know what I can do to help and I'm there - as I said, I owe you guys big time.
Maraming salamat (many thanks),
Miguel
Now that this is stickied... you should change the title and first post to something along the lines of: "Look Here First" "New to the Droid X" "Noob ALERT!!"
Lol, ok.. maybe not the last one but something similar. Then edit the first post to something explaining the wiki or just the link.
It will help out on confusion in the threads and open ppl eyes to things that are going on and getting lost in the shuffle.
The biggest issue I have seen, is that XDA is an HTC forum, and the Devs dont mess with the Motorolla devices. Other forums have devs that work on the DX and that is where the traffic is. P3Droid, Koush and Birdman have completed the most significant breakthroughs, and they are not a part of this forum. I wish this place had more of a DX following too...for now, I stick with MDW.
Well I just recieved my DX yesterday. Thanks to this great wiki and the people behind it, I was able to root and do some modifying with in the first hour of having my phone, and I didn't have to tear through the forums. Thanks for all of the effort and keep up the good work.
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The biggest issue I have seen, is that XDA is an HTC forum, and the Devs dont mess with the Motorolla devices. Other forums have devs that work on the DX and that is where the traffic is. P3Droid, Koush and Birdman have completed the most significant breakthroughs, and they are not a part of this forum. I wish this place had more of a DX following too...for now, I stick with MDW.
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I like MDW alot as well, man, but I DO notice that a good number of posts there will link back to something here in the DX forum on XDA. So, it seems that the higher ups at MDW do at least lurk or contribute here as well.
das7771 said:
Well I just recieved my DX yesterday. Thanks to this great wiki and the people behind it, I was able to root and do some modifying with in the first hour of having my phone, and I didn't have to tear through the forums. Thanks for all of the effort and keep up the good work.
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nice!
after 2 months, I still want to keep my 2.1 OS (in case I want to start some coding on it & 2.1 is a safe version to test on). But I will definitely upgrade to official 2.2 OTA.
btw, is there a list of reasons in the wiki to root & upgrade to 2.2?
Hi! Thanks for getting this wiki and DX forum organized, CaptainTaco and all! I'm relatively new to Android, the DX, and rooting, and all that entails, and was looking for a place to start... and here I am! Have been hearing about XDA for a while, and look forward to learning and contributing as I can!
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Hi! Thanks for getting this wiki and DX forum organized, CaptainTaco and all! I'm relatively new to Android, the DX, and rooting, and all that entails, and was looking for a place to start... and here I am! Have been hearing about XDA for a while, and look forward to learning and contributing as I can!
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Welcome aboard. Just make sure you read everything you can before asking a question. I usually ask Google first before I post in a thread. You can also use the hand search feature at the top of the forum.
I say this cause ppl can get pretty heated for threads started asking questions or posting information that has already been answered or giving.
You can always pm me or hit me up on gtalk. A lot of ppl do and I enjoy turning the light bulb on for ppl lol
I've been lurking since I got my new phone, glad to be here. I'm rooted on 2.2 OTA and have learned some about the signed boot loader and latest updates via lurking and searching different forums each day. The wiki looks very complete as far as I can tell, great job!
Thanks for all the work on the Wiki. Great stuff!
I'm coming up to speed on Android/DX now. Very cool platform. I'll be helping more/developing for the Dx soon.
I may not post here much but I try to pay attention and read as often as I can.
P3droid is also a member here as jimmydafish.
Motorola devices will always be second class citizens on this forum...just the way it is.
I'm pretty much new to the cm6 software. I know about the wifi tethering and the live wall paper, and the some wat speed but thats basically it... Is there anything else u can do with cm6???? As far as customization, added extras? good tips? or anything useful period...i havent made any changes to the rom yet...
SN: I do want to uncap my kernel but i dont know where to start a break down on how to go about it would be nice...also i downloaded a 2.1 browser and i want to install it on my cm6 is that possible?
Check under Forum - Hero CDMA Q&A
Thread - [Q&A] Ask Me Your Cyanogenmod Questions!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775841
yea i researched and went on youtube 2 months before actually puttn a custom rom on my phone..besides it ewasnt a official how to guide with an alltel hero back then..i kno of alot of features to the phone..but doin these things is a whole nother ball game
.but thanks for the link and the comment..the link was alot of help besides who gonna read 5000 replies to a root feature..which is very confusing...when ppl could come in here and some it up
Guys, can we stop with the personal attacks.
Regarding this, the OP may wish to consider the use of Q&A next time, as this forum is for development.
Additionally, a read of the "XDA mantra" at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 will explain a little about how xda started, and what is expected before posting.
As for the forum rules, please read them and stop with the childish insults and name calling.
pulser_g2 said:
Guys, can we stop with the personal attacks.
Regarding this, the OP may wish to consider the use of Q&A next time, as this forum is for development.
Additionally, a read of the "XDA mantra" at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 will explain a little about how xda started, and what is expected before posting.
As for the forum rules, please read them and stop with the childish insults and name calling.
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Really true..all u guys had to say was wrong section. Even though some people are rude don't make it worse. Like I said though Q&A or the CM6 question thread.
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Thread cleaned a bit.
First i would like to say that doing a search in the main HTC HERO CDMA forum which can be found on the top right of the page will help you out tremendously.
As for kernels, Here is a link to all the kernels that Decad3nce has done. You can read through and test them out.
A lot of people are using the #14 kernel which can be downloaded at this link
CM6 #14 kernel
As for customizing, either go to the themes and development forums and you will find themes and themed ROM's. There is also some tweaks you can do in settings>Cyanogenmod Settings. It's more of trying out different things. What I do to my phone is my preference. Make it your own. Trial and Error..
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First i would like to say that doing a search in the main HTC HERO CDMA forum which can be found on the top right of the page will help you out tremendously.
As for kernels, Here is a link to all the kernels that Decad3nce has done. You can read through and test them out.
A lot of people are using the #14 kernel which can be downloaded at this link
CM6 #14 kernel
As for customizing, either go to the themes and development forums and you will find themes and themed ROM's. There is also some tweaks you can do in settings>Cyanogenmod Settings. It's more of trying out different things. What I do to my phone is my preference. Make it your own. Trial and Error..
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Ok i downloaded and installed the kernel 14 it works great..thanks for the link and info it helped alot..the process was quick and painless
No problem. People forget that they were once a noob and instead of pointing out what you should do and answering the question, they berate you.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
No problem. People forget that they were once a noob and instead of pointing out what you should do and answering the question, they berate you.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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Actually, it's more "us nerdy people" don't like being insulted, and it's irritating to see someone say "oh, I'm not going to read through that because I'm lazy and it's easier if I just ask my question instead".
Yea i understand what your saying but I wasn't tryin to be lazy..i did alot of research and i knew alot about how it worked and operated and the cool features..not the neccesary steps. i have a alltel hero and i was doing the sprint way but quickly notice it wasnt working so i googled alltel hero came to this site and the alltel rom root was still in the works.However I still did research, also tried the forums way it was a tad misleading..so soon after i found a site with 8 simple steps that answered all my questions. So to say jus read is not helping as much being point in the right direction..So I greatly appreciate the people above who helped and pointed me in the right direction. And those with unneccsary side comments, just don't post..It's simple..
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
This thread is not going to end well.
I don't really care, they sticky everything so why not what roms are for our phones and what ones are ported. Also what order the came out in. Im done with the captivate this weekend anyway, its only a suggestion.
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
Sent from my SGH-I897
justin860 said:
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
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Look here, thanks and credit to sammobile.com----
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/36-Samsung-Letter-Code. This is good with i897, but I'm still not sure about the i9000 rom lettering system, i.e JVT = ??
You may have to register and login to see this, not sure though. Hope it helps anyway.
conantroutman said:
I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.​​
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA​
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right from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184814​
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Agree 100 %
And I answered his question the way I could to try to help a little.
And I knew this thread would eventually get moved.
PM'd conantroutman to request the move just in case no one else has.
nh5 said:
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
Sent from my SGH-I897
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you mean this SHOULDN'T be in the development section.
hey guys is there any root/roms for this device yet? ive tried searching and havent come up with anything... it all seems to be for the AT&T vivid...
The Raider x710a is the HTC Vivid, at least that's what it says under my battery cover.
Does the Rogers device have the same code?
Root's always been available for Canadian Raiders as your bootloader was unlocked much earlier than ours. custom ROMs are interchangeable by region.
well its actually a bell one, same device but i tried loading the ics official RUU from AT&T and it was a no go?
set sail for fail, another day, another newb
just newb with this device, if you check my threads i use to cook roms for the magic...so stfu
shael said:
well its actually a bell one, same device but i tried loading the ics official RUU from AT&T and it was a no go?
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Learn the art of posting on XDA. This should be in general.
You asked for root and ROMs. For you, this has been available for what feels like centuries. Just looking at the dev board would have gotten your answer.
Now you're talking about ICS RUU, which is neither of those. Searching anywhere would have immediately told you that you need an OTA with the new HBOOT and the Canadian carriers have not released that yet!
Ai ya yai, it's no surprise that PG left.
ok so its rooted, and if im corrected there is no ics available to flash?
Yes.
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hey guys is there any root/roms for this device yet? ive tried searching and havent come up with anything... it all seems to be for the AT&T vivid...
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shael sorry for the harsh greetings from others. I am not sure when decurum and sensibility were flushed from our souls bit I'd like to wish you the best from Dallas, TX USA.
Good luck with the Raider.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
willgill said:
shael sorry for the harsh greetings from others. I am not sure when decurum and sensibility were flushed from our souls bit I'd like to wish you the best from Dallas, TX USA.
Good luck with the Raider.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
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A lot of it flew out the window when PG left. There were so many people who kept asking the same questions over and over, who didn't search nor follow instructions, then proceeding to come here and whine about why their phone/ROM didn't work. PG got fed up. It's part of why the development here is so weak.
This posed question really is no different. I can provide decent responses to good questions and demonstrated competence, but it's immensely tedious to try to respond to the same questions over and over when the answer is readily plastered all over the place.
It was common understanding in the old Captivate forum that one is to search before posting, then post their question. For some reason, the problem wasn't nearly as pronounced there, and all places in which it appeared was in the General section. I feel like the convoluted (by comparison) HTC setup is causing a lot of angst among those new to this, but the information to do things properly is still present on the forums as much as it was before. All people must do is read thoroughly and follow directions. Nobody is responsible for your device except you, so it's your fault if you brick your $500+ phone.
Aus_Azn said:
A lot of it flew out the window when PG left. There were so many people who kept asking the same questions over and over, who didn't search nor follow instructions, then proceeding to come here and whine about why their phone/ROM didn't work. PG got fed up. It's part of why the development here is so weak.
This posed question really is no different. I can provide decent responses to good questions and demonstrated competence, but it's immensely tedious to try to respond to the same questions over and over when the answer is readily plastered all over the place.
It was common understanding in the old Captivate forum that one is to search before posting, then post their question. For some reason, the problem wasn't nearly as pronounced there, and all places in which it appeared was in the General section. I feel like the convoluted (by comparison) HTC setup is causing a lot of angst among those new to this, but the information to do things properly is still present on the forums as much as it was before. All people must do is read thoroughly and follow directions. Nobody is responsible for your device except you, so it's your fault if you brick your $500+ phone.
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You nailed it, while being politically correct at the same time
Aus_Azn said:
A lot of it flew out the window when PG left. There were so many people who kept asking the same questions over and over, who didn't search nor follow instructions, then proceeding to come here and whine about why their phone/ROM didn't work. PG got fed up. It's part of why the development here is so weak.
This posed question really is no different. I can provide decent responses to good questions and demonstrated competence, but it's immensely tedious to try to respond to the same questions over and over when the answer is readily plastered all over the place.
It was common understanding in the old Captivate forum that one is to search before posting, then post their question. For some reason, the problem wasn't nearly as pronounced there, and all places in which it appeared was in the General section. I feel like the convoluted (by comparison) HTC setup is causing a lot of angst among those new to this, but the information to do things properly is still present on the forums as much as it was before. All people must do is read thoroughly and follow directions. Nobody is responsible for your device except you, so it's your fault if you brick your $500+ phone.
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I can understand the intolerance for whiners, but he wasn't whining. I know the history of PG and the reasons he left.
The quick quips telling someone to search really aren't helpful. Maybe they did and it was confusing or they didn't find the answer.
For that matter, if searching is always the response at XDA, we don't need XDA since all of the same answers are available on other websites and can be Googled.
The Internet is free and we can act however we wish. My wish is for a more helpful, less critical culture.
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Same questions everywhere i look
I have been using xda for years, i never post, i do this out of respect for the devs and people who have legit questions in the tread but since i just got my HTC raider last week (i have a G-Nexus as my main device) i started to Rom and ROot this device and i have seen so much anger on these threads, brothers i have the same hate for mundane and stupid questions that can be answered by control -F-, or the search button at the top, i have found a answer to every problem i have had for almost 3 years worth of androids (G1,DEXT,DesireZ,GalaxySVibrant,MOTOAtrix,Xt860,samsung note,galaxy nexus) Just for the love of god please use the search functions that we have at our disposal so that we dont loose DEV's like PG and we continue to make these phones better than they are
lets stand up for justice in the forums
Lets stand up for clean forums
LETS STAND UP FOR SOME BLOODY ICE CREAM SANDVICH
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I can understand the intolerance for whiners, but he wasn't whining. I know the history of PG and the reasons he left.
The quick quips telling someone to search really aren't helpful. Maybe they did and it was confusing or they didn't find the answer.
For that matter, if searching is always the response at XDA, we don't need XDA since all of the same answers are available on other websites and can be Googled.
The Internet is free and we can act however we wish. My wish is for a more helpful, less critical culture.
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I'm not talking about this isolated instance. I'm saying in general. OP didn't whine, but his second question posted a very simple and very common question whose answer is found all over the shop.
Every thread I've read ever since joining XDA has a clear instruction set. Never found any problems, and any unclear bits was usually cleaned up within at most a day. Especially for things that are guided/intuitive like RUU updating or CWM flashing. Anything deviating from that has always had clear and express instructions.
I agree with you on the searching front. It's just that by consequence, XDA is a pinnacle for Android development information and Google's search is not localized to the forum (though it can be forced), nor are all its threads indexed with the latest information on the latest issues, unlike the forum search and its ability to parse posts as they are made. Likewise, most of the information here cannot be found elsewhere unless heavily publicised.
My wish is for XDA's culture to have more autonomy and less incompetence. XDA is more of an instruction manual when it comes to knowing the ins, outs and modifications that you can do to your device.
Anyway, let's end this before it erupts. I am now abandoning this thread.
I see the forum titled "HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity" but all the subforums mention Vivid only which led me to this question since after some time searching inside the forum the answer still isn't clear to me. I hope this topic can be of use to others.
Thanks in advance.
They are interchangeable for everything but RUU's unless you are s-off with supercid
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Can you explain it without technical jargon? Thank you.
No... That's as simple as it gets...
And... If you're not sure what those terms mean... You have some reading to do before you start flashing your phone...
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No... That's as simple as it gets...
And... If you're not sure what those terms mean... You have some reading to do before you start flashing your phone...
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I have been flashing my phones for years, I was thinking of buying and HTC but apparently everyone here is so kind that I already moved on with the idea. Of course it makes a lot of sense to make the important information for HTC beginners (because, after all, you're mentioning things HTC-specific since this isn't how all the other brands work) spread across dozens of posts in dozens of threads instead of in one simple place, for someone to do the reading you suggest. Best regards
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I have been flashing my phones for years, I was thinking of buying and HTC but apparently everyone here is so kind that I already moved on with the idea. Of course it makes a lot of sense to make the important information for HTC beginners (because, after all, you're mentioning things HTC-specific since this isn't how all the other brands work) spread across dozens of posts in dozens of threads instead of in one simple place, for someone to do the reading you suggest. Best regards
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Pretty easy to find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521157
Called Important threads for: HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity
esloan said:
Pretty easy to find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521157
Called Important threads for: HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity
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I've been there, please quote the place where my question was answered and the terms "RUU's", "s-off" and supercid are explained.
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I've been there, please quote the place where my question was answered and the terms "RUU's", "s-off" and supercid are explained.
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The thread labeled 'Superguide'
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The thread labeled 'Superguide'
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I don't see the explanation for the terms there, if you do please be so kind to quote it.
No... This isn't xda-spoonfeeders...
Use Google... Use the search feature... Learn something
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No... This isn't xda-spoonfeeders...
Use Google... Use the search feature... Learn something
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It isn't xda-usegoogle as well. With your reasoning, XDA would serve nothing since you could probably find the same content somewhere else using google.
The fact is that the information just isn't there and me, as many people, probably will leave the idea of buying such a device if they can't find that kind of information without searching for days.
If your intention is not to share knowledge, you have no place in a forum like this.
I will try to help, because the OP asked the questions pretty clearly and politely (and wasn't like some of the posts on here - "hurrr how do i root my phone, tell me now kthx"). I also agree that having info scattered everywhere is not the easiest for people to navigate. And let's face it - not every post in this forum is crystal clear for all. Once the info/methods/files have been established, what is the harm in trying to put it all together? I enjoy the hunt for the information - That's why I've kept a file/info archive for every phone I've messed with.
Custom ROMs should work between all 3 (Vivid/Raider/Holiday). I don't believe any custom roms have been made specifically for one model.
RUU's will not. An RUU is a stock rom. It contains all of the stock partitions like radio, system, etc.). It pretty much returns a phone to stock (based on whatever carrier it is for, I believe - so carrier bloatware will be included). I believe that if you have unlocked the bootloader (for whatever reason), an RUU will refuse to flash. The bootloader will need to be re-locked in order for you to be able to flash the RUU.
When the RUU is run, it checks the "CID" of your phone. If your "CID" doesn't match the RUU , it will likely refuse to flash. You probably don't want to flash random RUU's to your phone anyway. But if you live on the edge you can change the CID of your phone. I think it's like... 1111111 or something. This is called the "SuperCID" - any Vivid/Raider/Holiday RUU will flash. At your own risk, of course! I remember doing SuperCID on my Bell HTC Raider, so I could flash the Rogers RUU to it. There are barely any differences between our 2 main carriers in Canada, so it flashed and worked fine for me.
To change your CID - I believe you will have to have the ultimate access to your phone (meaning, S-OFF your phone). Your phone will be open to flashing pretty much any code to any partition, and it will be easy to brick if you flash something inappropriate.
LaZiODROID said:
I will try to help, because the OP asked the questions pretty clearly and politely (and wasn't like some of the posts on here - "hurrr how do i root my phone, tell me now kthx"). I also agree that having info scattered everywhere is not the easiest for people to navigate. And let's face it - not every post in this forum is crystal clear for all. Once the info/methods/files have been established, what is the harm in trying to put it all together? I enjoy the hunt for the information - That's why I've kept a file/info archive for every phone I've messed with.
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THANK YOU! Finally someone with good judgement. I don't usually do this but since you took the time to elaborate such a clear and thought through answer I'd like to take some time to thank you in writing. I did not like the way the thread was going, in fact I regret the spam created and fear that it won't promote the very useful content you have just provided. I'll try to get in touch with staff to try and get this done and in the meantime if you're more familiar with the process I encourage you to do the same, thanking you in advance for that aswell. I hope the community can benefit from threads like this and encourage everyone to share and clarify other terms if they feel like so.
Cheers!
rignfool said:
No... This isn't xda-spoonfeeders...
Use Google... Use the search feature... Learn something
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This point is valid
mrvlhs said:
It isn't xda-usegoogle as well. With your reasoning, XDA would serve nothing since you could probably find the same content somewhere else using google.
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While you have been decent about your inquire, you are incorrect on your assumption of XDA.
This was created as a Development site. While over time we have added sections such as Q&A, it has never been based on answering users questions.
BTW, when I searched Google this was the second hit using the criteria of your OP
Now that this has been answered. I have close the thread.