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Hi all. I've had my Nexus for about three weeks now, and while I originally bought it for Froyo, I'm getting impatient and have the urge to root and try ROMs like CM and Modaco.
Should I wait or just root and do it?
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i rooted mine yesterday and only had it for 4 days.... havent even gotten the bill yet.... i bought it to hack
Even if you root you can still install Froyo. Its not like you're losing the ability to install Froyo by rooting. Actually, you don't even have to root to install Froyo now irrc..
I say go for it.
Then again, I'm a bad influence, and have a reputation for voiding warranties.
I rooted my phone within the first hour I had it - haven't looked back
Even if you root you can still install Froyo. Its not like you're losing the ability to install Froyo by rooting. Actually, you don't even have to root to install Froyo now irrc..
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I have an AT&T Nexus One so I can't flash Froyo without root.
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I say go for it.
Then again, I'm a bad influence, and have a reputation for voiding warranties.
I rooted my phone within the first hour I had it - haven't looked back
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My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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tjsimmons said:
My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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There is no chance of bricking it unless you update the radio. You won't have to update the radio to flash most 2.1 ROMs.... you will have to when you upgrade to Froyo. Might as well go ahead and screw around on 2.1 for now
tjsimmons said:
My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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I recently sent my phone in rooted for repair and htc didn't mind.
got it back a couple days later but it was locked again.
There is no chance of bricking it unless you update the radio. You won't have to update the radio to flash most 2.1 ROMs.... you will have to when you upgrade to Froyo. Might as well go ahead and screw around on 2.1 for now
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Hmm. I'll have to look at some of the ROMs then and see what I like.
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Does anyone else appreciate the irony of someone asking XDA if they should root?
It's like asking a kleptomaniac if you should shoplift.
I didn't root for 3 months until last week when I finally rooted. With froyo so close I thought about waiting. But once I rooted its now obvious that rooting is the way to go. Don't even worry about the official update coming. Just root it and you will have the official update earlier than if you don't root. Plus cyanogen is such a great ROM and totally worth it.
Okay so, I'm going to root and look at flashing some ROMs. Any guides out there? I see the sticky in General for Sense UI, but I'm not terribly sure if that's what I should follow or what.
Thanks!
Edit: started new thread.
just a quick question to you topic creator..im very new to rooting and flashing roms myself may i ask what guide you used to lear to do it?
mykeldrip said:
just a quick question to you topic creator..im very new to rooting and flashing roms myself may i ask what guide you used to lear to do it?
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In General Paul posted a guide from stock N1 to Sense UI/CM (it's a sticky). I just went down that and it worked great.
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It's like asking a kleptomaniac if you should shoplift.
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Hey it's not like we do it because we want to, we have to!
Lmao, sooooo true
Hello All,
I've long been a lurker but I decided to join today for some help. I've also decided I'd like to root my Tab.
One of the things I want to root it for is the Wireless Tether app. I just wanted to ask anyone that uses it to verify it works and if there are any special steps to make it work. I intend to use Z4Root then get Wireless Tether from Market.
I'm also considering overclocking, any App suggestions for that? I'd also like to know if anyone has any custom ROM suggestions.
Thanks for tolerating my newbishness and for the replies.
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It would help to know what tab ur using considering there are like 5 different types.
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That's true. Sprint CDMA Samsung Galaxy Tab, SPH-P100. Not too sure what other information would behelpful.
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I haven't used tethering, but am pretty n00b to Tab root. I rooted my Sprint SGT using oneclickroot, and it worked great, but haven't done much else. I plan on setting up CWM, and flashing my first Rom today, to prep for the HC port. Since I was planning on it anyways, I can let you know what I do, and what the outcome is... there are plenty of existing threads for that though... I'll test wireless tethering, and let you know!
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Thanks Phil, I'd appreciate you testing Wireless Tether on there before flashing it if you're willing to. I don't really have plans to run a Custom ROM at the moment (except maybe the HC port when spacemoose finishes it), but I do want to know if WT will work.
Z4Root no longer works for the sprint tab. You will need to use superoneclick to root. To overclock you can get SGS Kernel Flasher from the market. I am using Bauxite's kernel and love it.
I just got a tab today (t-mobile version). I already own a vibrant (running bionix). Which ROM is the best for the tab....especially to speed it up?
You can only temp root (and permanent root) your device using Visionary application. I've tested it and working as expected.
Why would you want to root the device is it to just put a better rom on it? I assuem you could also put the Honeycomb rom on it as well right?
Maybe use another flasher instead of SGS?
It might be just my case, but all the times I used SGS it has borked my Verizon Tab. Not sure if Sprint is the same way. I was able to recover to a default state by using the Verizon orginal restore files and Odin.
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It might be just my case, but all the times I used SGS it has bricked my Verizon Tab. Not sure if Sprint is the same way.
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If it bricked your tab were you able to send it back to Verizon and get it fixed? How does that work? If you can't tell I am new here trying to figure out which tablet to get and how to fix it when things WILL go wrong on my first root.
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If it bricked your tab were you able to send it back to Verizon and get it fixed? How does that work? If you can't tell I am new here trying to figure out which tablet to get and how to fix it when things WILL go wrong on my first root.
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Sorry wrong choice of words, I meant to put borked. Bricked means not being able to bring it back. In my cases I was able to bring it back to default by the Yellow screen download mode. I will correct my post.
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It might be just my case, but all the times I used SGS it has borked my Verizon Tab. Not sure if Sprint is the same way. I was able to recover to a default state by using the Verizon orginal restore files and Odin.
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Which kernel flasher did you ultimately find that worked with your Verizon Tab?
hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
Have a look at Q1 in the FAQ thread which is stickied and you'll be able to pick your preferred method and find out.
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hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
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Pretty easy if you can read, comprehend and follow instructions.
Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus
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Thanks not heard of greenify cool app thanks :good:
I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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nickosbad said:
I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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It will always say (relocked) in recovery
My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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I can vouch for this. I bought my One two days ago and have it unlocked and rooted. However, it wasn't easy for me (this is the first Android I've ever "hacked") and it took two full days of researching and asking for help.
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Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
i have been rooted over 3 years and always get them thru roms sooner--never took one
have seen people taking updates and getting messed up
Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Understand, and could have sworn I replied to your post already--need a vacation--
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
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Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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To keep my phone on the latest software? I hear lots of people who have rooted are not seeing the upgrade and I dont wanna deal with custom ROMs
as folks have said, read a bunch. and follow directions very closely.
gaining root access to the phone isn't tough. how much time it takes also kinda depends on what you plan to do with root access.
- if your with root is to use the stock rom, and just gain access to rooted apps, and maybe get rid of some bloatware (again read which one's are safe to delete first!), then rooting won't take too much time.
- if you plan on trying new roms and kernels to try to ring every last drop of functionality and speed and battery life out of that chunk of hardware, then expect it to take some time. this path is voluntary. but it should be considered a lifestyle, not a solution.
hi everyone sorry for the dumb question ived looked everywhere with no difinative answer. I am new to rooting obviously but have been following u guys since hd2 days!!! Never pulled the trigger on flashing but im tired of the wait for an official jb rom by tmo which dont know if it will ever happen. Anyway i have seen all the threads on rooting the tmo note but not sure if the files to root can be done with this build uvma1. All of them are about the previous version uvgl3 or something like that which is the previous one before the update back december- january. Also would u choose cwrm or twrp cor recovery and do i need the latest version of odin or will the 1.4 be ok. Sorry for sounding lost and dumb but have only glanced through most of the process. Worst case scenerio is getting me a new note2!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165841
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Here is you might can get the answer that you were asking about it..
Good lucks..thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165841
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Here is you might can get the answer that you were asking about it..
Good lucks..thanks
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Thank you for the link and have read it but someone talks about downloading cwm and superuser and then downloading a uvma1.tar file which there isnt a link to it and the last post explains a diferrent procedure which to me sounds knid of complicated and dont know if i can pull that off as i am not very bright to such thin as u can tell lol. The original way sounded much easier but i guess the uvlg3 file wont work on this build from what i can tell. If that makes sense now im just hesitant to try any of it as i really cant afford to get me a new phone incase something goes wrong. Sorry for sounding dumb but i wish it could be much easier.
You can go to my thread and install my pre rooted version. You can use backup then restore to keep your data.
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As I have mentioned in the "Goodies" forum the only way I could root the build (uvma1) is by downloading the two apps from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2217840 from method 3 section and flash it using TWRP 2.3. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip did not work, would not even flash.
I have the GN3 for AT&T. I received the 4.4.2 (NC2) update a week ago and my phone is stock . All I want to do is root . I don't care about the warranty. I've seen a couple of methods that supposedly work but has anyone successfully got it done and actually retained root access? Or is this a wait it out situation. Thankss.
I don't think there is a root method for nc2 yet sorry
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I'm with about 95% of Note 3 owners from AT&T patiently waiting for some root solution for our recent OTA update to NC2.
Like the movie Mad Max world, there's a lot of barrenness out there. There is no root on the horizon.
I read of rumors how other NC2 variants have achieved root, however with our "locked" bootloader, we're very very limited.
I know with our NC2 update, it "updated" our already locked bootloader to some monstrosity that won't alow a roll back.
We practically STUCK! The few root options we had prior to the update, that didn't trip the KNOX flag, are non - existent right now, and who knows if they will ever will be?
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This is a very popular device I'd wager someone will come out with a boot loader hijack eventually... If/when this happens we Will have full access to the system. But as far as root is concerned I'm sure it will arrive in time. My RAZR m is not a popular flagship device and it recently finally achieved root.
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Yeah it appears that way. It just sucks that I put the update on my phone and it totally wasn't worth it I should have just kept 4.3 then I wouldn't have this problem. I'm going to keep looking and possibly try a few methods hopefully something will turn up soon.. let me know if you find anything!
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This "no root" situation is very frustrating and makes the Note 3 useless to me. Just wanted to enter it into the "Smash the Past" contest to possibly win the new OnePlus One phone instead (http://oneplus.net/smash). Would so gladly shoot it through with an arrow from my hunting bow. No, I'm not a hunter, just enjoy target practice from time to time, and shooting this one would improve my aim accuracy for sure! Unfortunately will be out of country in the critical period. Darn! Anyone else would gladly smash the AT&T Note 3, if given a chance of getting another similar phone?
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This "no root" situation is very frustrating and makes the Note 3 useless to me. Just wanted to enter it into the "Smash the Past" contest to possibly win the new OnePlus One phone instead (http://oneplus.net/smash). Would so gladly shoot it through with an arrow from my hunting bow. No, I'm not a hunter, just enjoy target practice from time to time, and shooting this one would improve my aim accuracy for sure! Unfortunately will be out of country in the critical period. Darn! Anyone else would gladly smash the AT&T Note 3, if given a chance of getting another similar phone?
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So dumb.
Why would you break a $700 phone for a CHANCE to win a phone that costs $300..? That makes no sense even if you were guaranteed one for breaking the Note.
How about selling the Note and use the proceeds to just buy a One, and have money left over?
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So dumb.
Why would you break a $700 phone for a CHANCE to win a phone that costs $300..? That makes no sense even if you were guaranteed one for breaking the Note.
How about selling the Note and use the proceeds to just buy a One, and have money left over?
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It's just the frustration factor for me Would feel so good after all this trouble! I don't think I can sell it as is, I'm on a leaked KitKat version (MLG) with bootloader updated to the latest version, so I can't downgrade, and can't even upgrade to the official KitKat (when I would feel good about selling it). The actual "smash" part in the context comes only when you were selected/drawn to get the $1 OnePlus. But given that they provide you with a 16 GB memory only and there is no possibility to insert an SD card, the OnePlus in this particular configuration would be useless to me. Anyway, enough rambling. If someone hears about even a remote possibility to root this system, please post in this thread, seems like the most logical place to post such news.
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kindle fire hdx is also very popular
so what?
gotta write petition to your congressman about AT&T+Samsung violating cellphone unlock law.
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It's just the frustration factor for me Would feel so good after all this trouble! I don't think I can sell it as is, I'm on a leaked KitKat version (MLG) with bootloader updated to the latest version, so I can't downgrade, and can't even upgrade to the official KitKat (when I would feel good about selling it). The actual "smash" part in the context comes only when you were selected/drawn to get the $1 OnePlus. But given that they provide you with a 16 GB memory only and there is no possibility to insert an SD card, the OnePlus in this particular configuration would be useless to me. Anyway, enough rambling. If someone hears about even a remote possibility to root this system, please post in this thread, seems like the most logical place to post such news.
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It doesn't matter what bootloader/ROM combo you have, you can always Odin back to stock, as long as you're not trying to go backwards
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so what?
gotta write petition to your congressman about AT&T+Samsung violating cellphone unlock law.
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They're not violating anything...
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It doesn't matter what bootloader/ROM combo you have, you can always Odin back to stock, as long as you're not trying to go backwards
They're not violating anything...
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It seems he is using MLG software with NC2 bootloaders... He can't Odin anything with bootloaders less than NC2. And since we don't have NC2 Odin flashable software, he's screwed.
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It doesn't matter what bootloader/ROM combo you have, you can always Odin back to stock, as long as you're not trying to go backwards
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Yes, but so far nobody managed to pull the Odin-able files from the official KitKat (NC2) release. If you know where to get these files, please share. I hoped that Samsung rep at the local BestBuy could flash NC2 to my phone, but he still has only JellyBean.
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It seems he is using MLG software with NC2 bootloaders... He can't Odin anything with bootloaders less than NC2. And since we don't have NC2 Odin flashable software, he's screwed.
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Exactly. Bricked my phone trying to upgrade from rooted JB to the official KitKat (long story). Was stuck in a bootloop, and MLG Odin files with NC2 bootloader, prepared by carl1961 (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51572014#post51572014) saved me. Actually MLG works very well for me, the only concern is that the eventual future OTA upgrades won't work with it.
I still don't know if Samsung rep with their SMART software would be able to flash the NC2 ROM over this MLG setup. Did anyone know this? The local stores around here (South-Western PA) still have only JB available. Actually last week when I went there, the rep thought that he can flash JB over my system, and I let him, curious to see what will happen. What actually happened was another "brick". The phone would do nothing except to start Odin download mode, showing an error message and advising to use Kies on my PC to restore it. The Samsung rep in BestBuy did not know what else to do and sent me home with a bricked device. Tried Kies, but no matter what I did and how many times I tried to debug the connection, reinstall its drivers etc., it would do nothing. Guess at that point I should go and complain to Samsung that they bricked my phone and demanding the fix. But I just wanted to use it, so I Odine'd back Carl's MLG system. Works like a charm again... Except that I miss root, of course.
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It seems he is using MLG software with NC2 bootloaders... He can't Odin anything with bootloaders less than NC2. And since we don't have NC2 Odin flashable software, he's screwed.
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Yes, but so far nobody managed to pull the Odin-able files from the official KitKat (NC2) release. If you know where to get these files, please share. I hoped that Samsung rep at the local BestBuy could flash NC2 to my phone, but he still has only JellyBean.
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I see. Wasn't aware that there isn't a KK stock tar yet
I am a Samsung Experience Consultant I work at the experience shop inside bestbuy in Vauxhall nj and yea I flashed nc2 with the smart tool to a note that was rooted on 4.3 it worked but he lost his root access and now he's stuck on 4.4.2 so now he's right along with the rest of us waiting. .
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I am a Samsung Experience Consultant I work at the experience shop inside bestbuy in Vauxhall nj and yea I flashed nc2 with the smart tool to a note that was rooted on 4.3 it worked but he lost his root access and now he's stuck on 4.4.2 so now he's right along with the rest of us waiting. .
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vulcanraven6: Any idea if the official 4.4.2 (NC2 ROM) would flash over the leaked (unrooted) version of 4.4.2 (build number ending with MLG), while the bootloaders are already upgraded to NC2 version, with your SMART software? I can't find out if this works or not, nobody is posting such answer, and the local Samsung reps at BestBuy still have only 4.3 on their SMART stations... Would appreciate any info on this, thanks!
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I looked into it. Apparently it can't be done from what my buddy told me but I'm not so sure tell the store to download the file it's In the computer we have had it for a while now unless it's verizon.. if u have trouble or anything give me the number to the store and I'll tell them what to do to get 4.4.2 in their system.
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I looked into it. Apparently it can't be done from what my buddy told me but I'm not so sure tell the store to download the file it's In the computer we have had it for a while now unless it's verizon.. if u have trouble or anything give me the number to the store and I'll tell them what to do to get 4.4.2 in their system.
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Actually I went today to BestBuy and finally they had KitKat on their SMART station. It flashed without any trouble over my MLG system (Leaked KitKat) and now my phone is on NC2. Almost sorry I did this before I could with some trickery start a mobile WiFi hotspot, now on the official NC2 version it does not work at all. Oh well. At least I'm "official now" on my Note 3. Thank you for looking into it.
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Great! I'm glad it worked out. I hope we get some type of work around soon for 4.4.2 ... I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Is there still no root method for nc2 official?