So Megaupload has been shut down, and now Filesonic and Fileserve have decided to not allow anybody to download files they did not personally upload.
How long before similar hosting sites follow suit?
A lot of legitimate websites depend on those places to host files for their users to download, even this one. This frustrates the hell out of me because now all over the internet links to legitimate legal files are shut down because of the assholes that feel the need to use these websites for unlawful purposes.
I tried to download a ROM earlier to find it was hosted on filesonic. Tried to download a zip file of something that was hosted in megaupload. I know a ton of files from useful threads on this community are hosted on these 3 sites or sites like them, and its going to be even harder for users that want to play with an older device that has been forgotten but the files and information was still there. Now they will find the information but won't have access to the files they need.
Its about more than pirating....
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Its about more than pirating....
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exactly!
if the OP actually read the news, it's not about pirating but rather money laundering, they are just trying to hype everything else with the pirating banner
as the feds needed a "valid" point to conduct a search warrant into the possessions and freeze the bank accounts of that guy
I did read the news. That is why Megaupload alone did not affect me so much, but Piracy also played a major role, and because of such OTHER file hosts are shutting down services and making files unavailable.
Or are all File Hosting sites laundering money and have something to run from?
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So Megaupload has been shut down, and now Filesonic and Fileserve have decided to not allow anybody to download files they did not personally upload.
How long before similar hosting sites follow suit?
A lot of legitimate websites depend on those places to host files for their users to download, even this one. This frustrates the hell out of me because now all over the internet links to legitimate legal files are shut down because of the assholes that feel the need to use these websites for unlawful purposes.
I tried to download a ROM earlier to find it was hosted on filesonic. Tried to download a zip file of something that was hosted in megaupload. I know a ton of files from useful threads on this community are hosted on these 3 sites or sites like them, and its going to be even harder for users that want to play with an older device that has been forgotten but the files and information was still there. Now they will find the information but won't have access to the files they need.
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Your blaming the pirates? Your anger is wrongly distributed, my friend. All your post really says about you is that content with the action that has taken place.
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They sey that the guy may get 50 years of prison...
it's the money making scheme thing they are removing from their sites
a lot of them were doing that to attract people
were you download a file, and the guy hosting the file was getting paid per MB by the filehosting service
i'm actually glad all those are shutting down, that was a horrible thing to see here in XDA
always making members building huge list of ROMs or whatever Mods, on those sites and bumping up the size of the actual download, so they get more money out of the each download
we had a lot of users complaining about that
that money has to come from some where, and Advertising alone doesn't generate that much money to make it viable by the filehosting site
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I did read the news. That is why Megaupload alone did not affect me so much, but Piracy also played a major role, and because of such OTHER file hosts are shutting down services and making files unavailable.
Or are all File Hosting sites laundering money and have something to run from?
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Destron5683 said:
I did read the news. That is why Megaupload alone did not affect me so much, but Piracy also played a major role, and because of such OTHER file hosts are shutting down services and making files unavailable.
Or are all File Hosting sites laundering money and have something to run from?
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So, one file host gets shut down due to a completely unrelated incident, other companies lighten their vulnerabilities to play it safe, and now you can't download roms for dead devices? Damn the guy downloading a poor quality cam rip of paranormal activity 3! Don't blame the legislature, or any other legislatures or any other aspect of the government, don't blame Lamar Smith, don't blame the file host sites who want to play it safe, let's blame it on the guy who didn't hurt anyone as he wasn't going to buy the movie anyway. Torrenting is just sharing made easier, we traded tapes back in elementary school that we'd recorded off of the radio. This is the same thing on a larger scale and it scares people.
This is more , the piracy its only a excuse.
You have to think more before post.
Because if you see, in deep this problem.
Start they see Kim can be a big problem for they industry.
And usa / fbi use this excuse for start making other country´s follow they rules and what they want.
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it's the money making scheme thing they are removing from their sites
a lot of them were doing that to attract people
were you download a file, and the guy hosting the file was getting paid per MB by the filehosting service
i'm actually glad all those are shutting down, that was a horrible thing to see here in XDA
always making members building huge list of ROMs or whatever Mods, on those sites and bumping up the size of the actual download, so they get more money out of the each download
we had a lot of users complaining about that
that money has to come from some where, and Advertising alone doesn't generate that much money to make it viable by the filehosting site
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That part I was not aware of, as I have never used an account to host files there. I didn't know people hosting the files got paid per MB and tbh that makes sense why pirates would use them. Thank you for explaining that point.
My anger is directed at they fact that now a LOT of important links in this site and many others are now broken. And the fact that pirates have made these places havens to host their wares is a primary reason these places are now running scared.
And I know it happens. A while back I got interested in Hombrew development for the Wii as I had a unique idea for how to use the remote. So I set out to hack my Wii to allow it to run Homebrew apps. There is a legal way and a non legal way. The legal way would allow you to run Homebrew but no retail games. The illegal way allows you to play pirated games. In my search for information I came across a website with thousands of links to illegal Wii games - all hosted on places just like that.
Now I know why - but the fact remains if people didn't do that - and the sites were used for legitimate purposes we wouldn't be here today.
And I KNOW there was more to the megaupload than that - but now all of them are shutting down and scaling back because of it. And who put tha excuse in their hands???
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This is more , the piracy its only a excuse.
You have to think more before post.
Because if you see, in deep this problem.
Start they see Kim can be a big problem for they industry.
And usa / fbi use this excuse for start making other country´s follow they rules and what they want.
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first pirates, now america? wow...
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first pirates, now america? wow...
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Well for you its possible sounds stupid.
But who shutdown mu.
FBI.
In first i dont understand why its so active USA.
I hope dont you think iam american hatter, or anything like that.
my question is why FBI are doing this jobs.
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Well for you its possible sounds stupid.
But who shutdown mu.
FBI.
In first i dont understand why its so active USA.
I hope dont you think iam american hatter, or anything like that.
my question is why FBI are doing this jobs.
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Is there a better translator you could use? I'm not trying to offend you, but I can't tell what you're saying. To be perfectly honest, it sounds like random anti-American phrases and statements tossed in a blender.
He's asking why an American authority is the one to close down MU.
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Piracy is a issue but its being used as a scapegoat so the industry could have more control & insure future profits. With technolgy becoming more advanced & cheaper artists/fans dont have to depend on the majors.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...the-real-reason-why-megaupload-was-shut-down/
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/20/megauploads-takedown-how-is-swizz-beatz-involved/
]So, one file host gets shut down due to a completely unrelated incident, other companies lighten their vulnerabilities to play it safe, and now you can't download roms for dead devices?
I used that as an example. Actually the ROM I couldn't download was for my SGSII Thank You.
Damn the guy downloading a poor quality cam rip of paranormal activity 3! Don't blame the legislature, or any other legislatures or any other aspect of the government, don't blame Lamar Smith, don't blame the file host sites who want to play it safe,
Why WOULD I blame the government for blocking illegal activity? Its no secret that ripping and uploading a movie for people to download for free is a crime. So the government is enforcing the law. So how is the government to blame for these people uploading illegal files to these places? I don't care how or why its a law its still a law and up to the government to enforce. Weather I agree with it or you agree with doesn't matter. Its still a law and THIS istuation had nothing to do with SOPA or Lamar Smith.
let's blame it on the guy who didn't hurt anyone as he wasn't going to buy the movie anyway. Torrenting is just sharing made easier, we traded tapes back in elementary school that we'd recorded off of the radio. This is the same thing on a larger scale and it scares people.
If you want to torrent - then torrent. I don't care. I don't care if people DO pirate movies, music or anything else. But torrenting is a relationship between the people sharing those files and the people getting those files. If you and the person your getting those files from get caught and go to prison its of no consequence to me. But in this instance millions of people are affected because they no longer have access to legitimate files.
Weather Piracy is the reason MU was shut down or not DOES NOT MATTER. The fact remains that people WHERE using the places as pirating havens and HANDED the government the excuse to say piracy IS the issue and has the rest running scared/
If pirates were not using these places to host millions of dollars in illegal files then the headline would be different.
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I did read the news. That is why Megaupload alone did not affect me so much, but Piracy also played a major role, and because of such OTHER file hosts are shutting down services and making files unavailable.
Or are all File Hosting sites laundering money and have something to run from?
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Maybe developers in gen should start a co-op dev site?
IE a host owned and operated by and for developers, it could be a not for profit which for those who don't no means your goal is basically A. Be in black B. profits go to future of buissness or owners ie. people that pay for hosting. C. Try to help more in their communities and with customers than competion.
Basically through makeing yourself a not for profit your just helping everybody especially since I am pretty sure most devs dont make anything off donations.
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Maybe developers in gen should start a co-op dev site?
IE a host owned and operated by and for developers, it could be a not for profit which for those who don't no means your goal is basically A. Be in black B. profits go to future of buissness or owners ie. people that pay for hosting. C. Try to help more in their communities and with customers than competion.
Basically through makeing yourself a not for profit your just helping everybody especially since I am pretty sure most devs dont make anything off donations.
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That is an excellent idea. A place that only hosts files for developers and users of smart phones and tablets and nothing else.
+1
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Maybe developers in gen should start a co-op dev site?
IE a host owned and operated by and for developers, it could be a not for profit which for those who don't no means your goal is basically A. Be in black B. profits go to future of buissness or owners ie. people that pay for hosting. C. Try to help more in their communities and with customers than competion.
Basically through makeing yourself a not for profit your just helping everybody especially since I am pretty sure most devs dont make anything off donations.
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this is by far the best answer
anyone with the $ to host and maintain a free not for profit file services is welcome to do so
then the Admins/Mods of the site can easily ban anyone not following those principals
however!
there's still a gotcha!
apparently Teamwhiskey got shutdown by the gov under the same pretext as pirating even though all they did was ROM, or maybe that was just their SOPA protest that lasted longer than expected
yup, just checked their site it's back up
while on the same topic
yes ROM can technically be categorized as Pirated good as well, except for pure AOSP and CM releases
all other ROMs specially Windows, or TouchWiz or Sense based ROMs are all subjected as Pirated Warez if the crap does hit the fan
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I am not a lawyer and I don't know too much about this... but isn't it illegal to sell apps such as sound boards and pictures that are copyrighted on the market or anywhere for that matter if they don't have the rights from the owners?
I am seeing a bunch of apps on the market with icons from other copyrighted pictures and apps such as soundboards that use copyrighted content. Doesn't it make it illegal for the devs to sell them w / out copyrights?
P.S im not complaining just inquiring.
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I am not a lawyer and I don't know too much about this... but isn't it illegal to sell apps such as sound boards and pictures that are copyrighted on the market or anywhere for that matter if they don't have the rights from the owners?
I am seeing a bunch of apps on the market with icons from other copyrighted pictures and apps such as soundboards that use copyrighted content. Doesn't it make it illegal for the devs to sell them w / out copyrights?
P.S im not complaining just inquiring.
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It probably is illegal, but until someone claims copyright, no one will do anything.
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It probably is illegal, but until someone claims copyright, no one will do anything.
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Well, it would be a good way to clean up the market wouldn't it? =P
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Well, it would be a good way to clean up the market wouldn't it? =P
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Yes, but I don't think if anyone but the copyright holder will complain, Google will do anything.
Well, you could always mark the app as innappropriate and email the dev and stuff...
yea the sound boards are copyright infringement but the themes aren't. the themes use pictures you can find through google and most people dont care about it. You then have the sound boards that use trademark words and catchphrases. selling these would probably be considered illegal just like bootlegging. They take a sound thats supposed to be approved to be sold and sells it without the consent of the people or companies behind it.
If you complain about the paid ones then they'll be taken down along with the free ones because the companies will want to be compensated for the use of their property even in a free way.
whoops double post lol
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yea the sound boards are copyright infringement but the themes aren't. the themes use pictures you can find through google and most people dont care about it. You then have the sound boards that use trademark words and catchphrases. selling these would probably be considered illegal just like bootlegging. They take a sound thats supposed to be approved to be sold and sells it without the consent of the people or companies behind it.
If you complain about the paid ones then they'll be taken down along with the free ones because the companies will want to be compensated for the use of their property even in a free way.
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Just because you can find an image through Google or find it on a message board, or hanging on a wall in a mall does NOT mean you have any rights to it.
The second point to your argument is right though. Most people won't really care to pursue it.
Now, the things that piss me off are people posting things such as books (military guides for one) and CHARGING for it. It's not their book and if I recall correctly from way back in 1997 when I was in basic training, not supposed to be for the general public.
I've wondered about this as well.
My limited knowledge says that as long as they are using public domain images from the net without any posted copyright notices and they are free on the Market, then they are probably OK.
Those who are selling apps that use copyrighted material are opening themselves up for prosecution.
Now some apps that are for sale.....say Doom for example. You buy the Android port, but you download the proprietary doom.wad file separately after purchase. Now the gray area here is that the Doom app actually is setup to go ahead and download it for you right out of the box. But I think it's using the shareware version, so it's probably OK.
Ditto for MAME....you download the emulator....how and where you obtain the ROMs are your business. Many of the original copyright owners are no longer legal entities anymore, and others that *are* still around have graciously donated their ROMs legally. But there are still plenty of illegal ROMs floating around. I suspect it's just a drop in the bucket compared to music/movie illegal sharing.
In all actuality, as long as the material (photos, music, and video) are public domain you can use them and even charge for them. For instance look at things like South Park and Family Guy. These shows use a lot of copyrighted material as parodies, they pay little to no royalities on these materials. And you might think these TV shows are free to watch, but think where they started... on a paid cable network.
1) Images, sound clips, video, etc. available on the internet are NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN unless noted as such. Do we get away with a lot? Yes... However, it doesn't mean that if someone wanted to pursue the matter, they wouldn't win.
2) It's copyrighted, no such thing as copywritten.
3) The sound clips and video you see on TV are either paid for or they use the "celebrity likeness" legalities which if deemed necessary, we can go into further.
I don't think anyone ever said that things on the net are public domain. And not all parodies are paid for. It all depends on the situation.
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I don't think anyone ever said that things on the net are public domain. And not all parodies are paid for. It all depends on the situation.
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I suppose you have completed law school as well. There are a lot of semantics on this topic.
Long story short, I take offense to people charging for information that isn't public domain (such as field manuals for soldiers).
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For instance look at things like South Park and Family Guy. These shows use a lot of copyrighted material as parodies, they pay little to no royalities on these materials.
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WTF are you talking about? Unless you work in finance for the companies that produce South Park or Family guy you have NO IDEA what they do or don't pay for.
Someone in another forum made a good point. Sometimes the devs are selling the time and coding that allows the app or game to be used on the android. The actual app/ game is not what they are selling.
But I see where that can be a fine line to the owners of the apps. If I made a paid app for the pc and someone ported it to android and are making money off of it and not giving me royalties I would be upset. Even if he was selling his time and his coding. Its my app.
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Someone in another forum made a good point. Sometimes the devs are selling the time and coding that allows the app or game to be used on the android. The actual app/ game is not what they are selling.
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I don't see how that's a good point. If you photocopy a book or copy a CD, you can't sell "your time" that you took to make it. Otherwise people selling copies of DVDs on the street would never get busted. That has to be the most retarded argument I have heard thus far.
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I don't see how that's a good point. If you photocopy a book or copy a CD, you can't sell "your time" that you took to make it. Otherwise people selling copies of DVDs on the street would never get busted. That has to be the most retarded argument I have heard thus far.
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Are you serious?
Making a copy and making a code are two totally different things. I am not saying it is right sell the code for someone elses ported app but to compare simply making a copy to creating a code is like apples and oranges.
Making a photocopy is simply duplicating.... Creating a code so that an app can work for different platform takes time and effort. Its like taking someones invention and enhancing it.
I am also not saying this is legally correct. Its just a good point.
You have to realize that in the instance of a sound board, the copyright holders have no reason to complain especially if it's free.
We are basically looking at free publicity and distribution of the material in a non-profitable manner, meaning, the infringer isn't making money selling the copyrighted works- so why would the owners have a gripe about it?
Now if there were full episodes, or these were being sold, I'm sure they may stand up and say something.
Basically- it appears that it is, in fact, copyright infringement- but there is little to zero reason to file a complaint about it by the copyright holder, why complain about hundreds of thousands of people enjoying your work and all the free publicity with zero negative side effects?
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Are you serious?
Making a copy and making a code are two totally different things. I am not saying it is right sell the code for someone elses ported app but to compare simply making a copy to creating a code is like apples and oranges.
Making a photocopy is simply duplicating.... Creating a code so that an app can work for different platform takes time and effort. Its like taking someones invention and enhancing it.
I am also not saying this is legally correct. Its just a good point.
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If there is one thing that I learned in my copyright law class, it's that you can be a stupid infringer. Meaning, just because something took more time and effort, and you get no profit from it, doesn't mean you aren't an infringer all the same- just a stupid one.
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If there is one thing that I learned in my copyright law class, it's that you can be a stupid infringer. Meaning, just because something took more time and effort, and you get no profit from it, doesn't mean you aren't an infringer all the same- just a stupid one.
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Stupid infringer or not, some of this stuff gets a bit ridiculous. I just found this app, Flash Keyboard, doing pretty much whatever they can to get installs. I've seen fake wallpapers (text bubbles like raindrops), video of a virtual keyboard (not available), and today a post using the images of Snoopy, Mickey & Minnie, and Hello Kitty.
(note: could not provide links, as I'm a new user, but they can be found with a simple facebook search)
androidplayground (link removed to comply with forum rules, google and take the first result, it's the ****hole in question)
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
They do have a contact page, why not let them know how much you appreciate your hard work being stolen?
Looks pretty shady anyway, I'd much rather use the Android Market.
I agree. Charging people do get software you stole is worse than stealing it in the first place IMO.
I feel like I just took a trip back to a 1997 Geocities website
this is pretty much a site that leads to warez and shouldnt be posted. i am just saying.
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this is pretty much a site that leads to warez and shouldnt be posted. i am just saying.
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And changed.
It's being hosted by hostedsolutions, their contact info is here:
http://www.hostedsolutions.com/contact/
I'm sure they'd like to know what's on their servers.
Wow that's ballsy.
They even link back to the xda forums for formatting and rooting info.
And Dev's they are taking paypal payments. File a complaint with Paypal too.
They used a privacy company to hide who they are.
And then they used Tucows address as their domain registration address?
The whois phone number rings to a looped recording telling you to go to the privacy companies website. Which does not seem to work.
To bad these A$$munchs didn't also make the stupid Android7 Flash Player. We could have killed 2 birds with one stone.
If the site ever starts 'offering' SetCPU, I will do whatever is in my legal power to take them down. I can't do anything about those Chinese or Russian websites, but if it's hosted in the USA, they're going down.
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This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
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Piracy is piracy. Don't think somehow a for-free piracy distribution site is any more justified than a paid one. If anything, for-free distribution sites hurt developers more than paid sites: which one do you think attracts more pirates? (Note: Don't somehow come to the twisted conclusion that I support piracy of any kind; I don't.)
The difference between the two jashsu is that there is a large contingent of the "try before you buy" type of pirates out there. They'll get a warez version of an app, and if they like it, they'll often uninstall it and pay for the market version. However, if they pay for it through a third party website, the original developer never sees that profit.
Thats not to say I support piracy, because I dont. I fully believe that people should be compensated for hard work. I'm more than willing to pay for an app up front, and if it sucks, the dev will find out by reading the refund notice when i uninstall it within 24 hours.
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The difference between the two jashsu is that there is a large contingent of the "try before you buy" type of pirates out there.
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Please show me some numbers. To get the ball rolling, i'll post a link.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...-more-serious-than-first-though-on-iphone.ars
"The numbers that developers might find most interesting are the ones that show "conversion rates" from "lite" versions to full. Only one out of every 14 average users tends to purchase the paid version of an app after using the lite version, which is just under 7.5 percent. For pirates, the conversion rate is less than half a percent, or one out of every 233."
I download apps. If I like 'em, I pay for them. I'll usually go for a "lite" version if one exists. Anyway, rather than have this thread derailed into a debate about piracy, can we get back to the topic at hand?
I've notified the host, lets see if that does anything.
Sigh. Nothing like a little bit of piracy to set a forum on fire. Doesn't matter what forum you're visiting, could be a forum for food - and the first mention of piracy is bound to bring up what I like to call the forum nazis. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and no amount of gestapo trolling will change that. I find it interesting that people break various laws of various countries / cities / states daily and of course, it's overlooked. Someone makes mention of piracy and all of a sudden you've got the ePolice regime banging on your every post as if it were going to change something. What's my point? None, really. (But there again, there's also no point in bashing piracy, it's not going to make it any less existent.)
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Someone makes mention of piracy and all of a sudden you've got the ePolice regime banging on your every post as if it were going to change something.
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I hope you don't think that I assumed my post would change ThrashWolf's perception on piracy. I was merely pointing out how humorously sad this statement is:
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
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I mean.. maybe i'm the only one who finds that just a bit hypocritical? I would have been completely okay if he/she just said "hey dudes, theres a paid piracy site, lets get it shut down" or "I like piracy". But to go and say "I am a pirate, but these other pirates disgust me".. idk.. maybe it's just me, but that's just ridiculous.
Then again what do I know?
Also they spam the android market with there links so make sure if you see it report it as spam.
Doesn't anyone pay for their apps anymore ...
I'll admit it, I pirate apps too, but only to either try it or if I have no other way to even purchase the application.
The thing is, being a high-schooler, I have a cheap, prepaid credit card that only allows transactions in USD. Many apps aren't available in the Market in currency other than Euros or Pounds so I have no other choice to use the apps than to pirate them.
This kind of behavior where people are selling pirated copies instead of just making it available for people who otherwise can't even buy them is really annoying though... anybody thought of a way to get them shut down?
I'm honestly debating to pay for a membership and email every dev that has an app on their. The other known site I've already found 6 apps from me on their and they were removed. But since this place charges just to get a peak I'm very tempted to pay and make sure every company knows and can write C&D's to them and the host.
Piracy is always going to be an issue. Always. I have pirated apps before, usually to test out an app update I have already downloaded and refunded from the marketplace. If the update fixes things I had issues with, I will buy it. If not, then I delete it. I have bought and kept 21 apps from the marketplace so far. I believe my use of pirated apps is fair.
I am not trying to justify piracy, but merely stating it is a great tool for me. I am aware that a lot of people pirate apps just so they don't have to pay for them. I believe that is wrong. However when comparing those who distribute an app for free to those that charge for an app that is not theirs, I believe that the one who distributes for free is the lesser of the two evils. The one who distributes for free is going to reach out to more of the potential market yes, but the scumbags who actually charge for apps that someone worked hard on are the true thieves IMO. They affect a lesser share of the potential market, but keep in mind their "share" is willing to make a purchase in the first place, while the freeloaders "share" is questionable in that department.
Just my 2 cents.
MHO the whole SOPA thing and americans' crackdown on piracy aint gonna stop it. Its up to the people themselves to decide whether they pirate or support. No matter how much effort or money the US or other governments waste on trying to stop piracy, its not going to stop. The online community has unlimited possibilites and there's always gonna be somebody that's gonna make a workaround, if you understand what i mean. All SOPA's gonna do is cause unnecessary inconvenience in the online world.
MegaUpload... hmm... i thought at first that it was a stupid move, I mean, there are loads of different file-hosting sites out there, why only take down MegaUpload? I mean sites like FileSonic and others that pay uploaders money for downloads are way more prone to illegitimate uses.
Alright so I read MegaUpload CEO's Kim Dotcom's bio, he does have quite an interesting history... A dual German and Finland citizen, holds permanent residency in both New Zealand and Hong Kong. He has multiple criminal records and has been charged more than twice or so for criminal offenses such as selling hacked telephone cards, credit card fraud, insider trading and embezzlement... in general, being a total smart arse:
WIKIPEDIA: In 2001, Schmitz (Kim) purchased $375,000 worth of shares of the nearly bankrupt company LetsBuyIt.com and subsequently announced his intention to invest EUR 50 million in the company. Unknown to others, Schmitz did not have the funds available to invest, although the announcement caused the share value of LetsBuyIt.com to jump by nearly 300%.Schmitz quickly sold the shares and profited $1.5 million as a result.
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In other words, he was a dirty business man with a bad reputation. I guess his criminal records would be the main reason why he was taken down first. I'm quite confident there are more coming.
As to how it affects me, it does a lot. I have quite a few files I need on MU... I don't have a premium account and would never buy one off them or anyone else, because I don't need it. I sure feel sorry for those who have a prem though...
^^ Again, this is my honest opinion.
Megaupload being taken down really sucks
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negrobembon said:
Megaupload being taken down really sucks
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Couldn't agree more!
Yeah, it really sucks. Let's hope other file sharing sites don't get the same fate. Rapidshare etc. Not as good as Mega though... Here's my latest post on facebook lol
"Megaupload taken down by the Federal Government. ****ing ridiculous. The company was not EVEN BASED in the US. Is the US government now policing the rest of the world. They got the New Zealand police to arrest the founders, and the company base is in Hong Kong. How can they bring people from another part of the world, not even US citizens, and have them arrested... just adds to the bull**** with SOPA and PIPA. We are going to have a censored internet just like North Korea. **** THE US GOVERNMENT. DAMN. They need to get their priorities straight. Giving people years of jailtime for downloading music or small crimes, yet when someone murders someone you might get a year or two if your lucky. Something I saw someone post, download a Michael Jackson song and get 5 years prison, be the Dr. killing him and you get 1-2. smh.."
The megaupload. Being taken down doesnt surprise me personally. Its like limewire, it was a really blatant piracy hub. There was legitimate business on the site but it was mostly a hotbed for stolen data.
There are plenty of other oprions. Rapidshare, filehippo, dropbox
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LordManhattan said:
Here you go: fake link removed
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Please stop posting that IP around. It's not real. The owners of the real MegaUpload have nothing to do with these "New MegaUpload" sites. Now for being stupid I hope you get a virus and have your bank account zeroed.
But seriously, do you really think they would put it back up right after it was closed? Someone just took a cached version to have the layout, put the text in there, and now they are thinking how to infect your computer and steal your money.
(yes, I am copy and pasting that whenever I see those numbers)
Yeah, just saw your reply in the other thread.
You should edit the quote out of your post
We don't need two MU threads....
Well, I don't anyway
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A lot of ROMs/Mods/Files were hosted on Megaupload and none of the links are working now because of the government shut down the site I am LOST without my ROMs and Mods I guess that means that all developers have to upload the files to some other site then?
I lost my files too. I hope it will come back soon
Your powers of deduction have filled me with wonderment and awe.
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Megaupload...
Yeah, this really sucks. I don't even get why they closed the place anyway. I mean yes it may have had a lot of "bad" files there, but it's not like it was MegaUpload who put it there...it was the users. Also, they are trying to filter out the copyrighted stuff. So it's not like they're not doing their job. *sigh* I hope it comes back. It was one of the best sites to download from since I got great speeds.
I didn't even think of the impact that taking down megaupload would have on Android ROMs... Hopefully most of you have backups :S
Damn in Megaupload allways the developers upload roms and another things...
this is bullcrap this is another way the government is trying to dictate us and control what the internet does
At least on my device, devs are used to upload on MultiUpload, from what I see.
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Limewire was taken down in much of the same way, it was an OBVIOUS hotbed for piracy, i don't think they government should of had the ability to remove it but when they got rid of limewire, you had to know this would be coming at some point. There were legitimate uses for Megaupload but a lot/most of it consisted of people sharing pirated data
Yeah but Limewire was just for piracy and Megaupload wasnt, they had a lot of stuff on there that wasnt. They should have the power to do this, I think this is their response to the other day where a lot of website shut down, including this one, to try ot get the bill from passing. I think its all bull, WE are the people not them, WE are the majority and the majority rules.
My guess for the both of these sites fell under the SOPA rules that are trying to implemented before anything was signed into law. You can still go to megaupload and it will state the reasons that they were shut down. One of them being piracy act. Remember for those in the USA to vote this current administration out of office before all of our rights are taken away
SOPA=NWIH (no way in he!!)
This just another example of a tyrannical government shoving their noses just a little deeper where it doesn't belong. The internet is the only thing that still works in this country, and they just want to control it. I say vote em out, all of them. !Ron Paul 2012!
Devs have to upload them in other file upload sites.
the best idia to write to megauload to tell user acess to download personal file
and then move to anader upload
it posible connecting with proxcy usa ?
never mind
The way Apple sees it, any rom on there with a 'slide to unlock' is copy written material being pirated.
xCaldazar said:
The way Apple sees it, any rom on there with a 'slide to unlock' is copyrighted material being pirated.
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Ftfy.
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Unfortunately, FBI shutdown Megaupload. Is there any way that they would be back up and running again or they are screwed. Furthermore, would the paid members of megaupload get their money back if they can't provide service?
Hosting pirated software and movies etc. is illegal. Do it enough and you get shut down.
The official thing I read said that they had been profiting from hosting copyrighted materials so they were shut down.
The usual mantra of saying that they can't be held responsible for what people upload to their service finally failed these guys.
I worry that it doesn't bode well for some other services, if they can prove that companies are profiting from copyright materials in the same way.
Technically even Youtube could fall foul of it too. Even though they have their method for reporting and taking down videos - which is flawed in itself and is abused by film, music and tv companies anyway
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Hosting pirated software and movies etc. is illegal. Do it enough and you get shut down.
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That's a totally simplistic (too simplistic) view on the matter. Megaupload was responding to DMCA takedown notices, so from this perspective, the "safe harbor" rules of the DMCA applied. Well, they should have. But of course the media industry came up with a whole bunch of stuff that removed the safe harbor protection from Megaupload. And the people behind MU were being a bit stupid as well, that helped the media industry make their case. This can serve as a lesson to others, to not repeat the same mistakes.
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That's a totally simplistic (too simplistic) view on the matter. Megaupload was responding to DMCA takedown notices, so from this perspective, the "safe harbor" rules of the DMCA applied. Well, they should have. But of course the media industry came up with a whole bunch of BS that removed the safe harbor protection from Megaupload.
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If there was no illegal material on the site it would still be up and running.
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If there was no illegal material on the site it would still be up and running.
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Why are you here at XDA? There's "illegal" material here. So by your simplistic views, XDA should be shut down. Also, Google links to "illegal" material, and even caches some of it in their internal caches. Down with Google!! Etc, etc, etc, I think you get the picture (or probably you still don't).
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Why are you here at XDA? There's "illegal" material here. So by your simplistic views, XDA should be shut down. Also, Google links to "illegal" material, and even caches some of it in their internal caches. Down with Google!! Etc, etc, etc, I think you get the picture (or probably you still don't).
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Er, I didn't actually state an opinion on the matter. What makes you think I agree with it at all?
I was just answering a question.
who cares...
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If there was no illegal material on the site it would still be up and running.
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That comment is just too ignorant and shows that u dont have actual knowledge of the case.
Illegal is a broad term, so broad that it can mean your mom having a photo on her desktop that you shot with your camera and she put without permission
And personally i dont think the site went down just because of that..
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That comment is just too ignorant and shows that u dont have actual knowledge of the case.
Illegal is a broad term, so broad that it can mean your mom having a photo on her desktop that you shot with your camera and she put without permission
And personally i dont think the site went down just because of that..
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It's not in the slightest bit ignorant, and neither am I. There's quite a lot of assumption going on in this thread about my posts.
sadly this will be the way of most all sharing sites.....eventually me thinks
peer to peer = piracy (mostly) i kind of like this though
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It's not in the slightest bit ignorant, and neither am I. There's quite a lot of assumption going on in this thread about my posts.
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Because we all love u and care about u
I believe that they closed megaupload or filesonic today for one and mostly reason!Which are the money!The big companies want share from their profits because we are talking about millions!Thats why they care about it!
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Because we all love u and care about u
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Maybe I'm slightly skeptical, but I detect sarcasm.
So... how are we going to share ROMS or programs that is built by developers? Even the government legalized rooting phones and tablets, so I wonder how would the distribution be like. Otherwise, we might need a private web space to be able to by-pass FBI. I mean yeah, I am against piracy and all that crap. But this legal stuff that we are sharing through Android Dev, businesses will slow down. I know there are many options out there but, after several months? perhaps, they could be shutdown as well.
MegaUpload was the best file hosting service online I've ever used. Too bad they get theirself in this kinda crap.
Although,they are already rebuilding megaupload in other country,where those laws aren't applicable.
man this really sucks. i use that website all the time.
one word SOPA
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one word SOPA
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Me gusta a la sopa
Well even though FBI tries hard enough to muzzle internet's freedom, I think people that care about it, will always be a step ahead and find different ways to share files, thoughts and everything!