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Wanted to let everyone know that Telus has announced that the Milestone will be getting Gingerbread 2.3 in the Spring. Here is the article from Phandroid:
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/15/des...g-on-telus-more-androids-slated-for-upgrades/
Although I no longer have a Milestone, mine died recently and have upgraded to a Droid 2 Global, I wanted to inform ya'll about the news. Hopefully this pans out and makes the Milestone which I loved (except for the locked bootloader) even better.
This spring is going to be over!
Seems the phandroid article is misleading. Mobilesyrup (the source) never actually claims Telus is announcing a Gingerbread update for the Milestone. Instead, they just update saying that Froyo will be out "very soon".
Thats too bad. Bummer. Hopeful that article was true. Doubt Moto will release Gingerbread for Milestone. But to be honest, I loved Cyanogenmod 6 for my Milestone. It was awesome.
HTC Desire and Desire HD: both are said to be getting Gingerbread sometime this Spring
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Other phones include the Motorola Milestone which is now slated to get Froyo
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So, umm... where did you see Milestone and Gingerbread in the same sentence?
You must be training to be a modern age journalist.
zeppelinrox said:
So, umm... where did you see Milestone and Gingerbread in the same sentence?
You must be training to be a modern age journalist.
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It's from the article title: "Desire, Desire HD & Milestone to Get Gingerbread in Spring on Telus"
Oh, that's beautiful.
The title contradicts the article.. yep.. that's modern day journalism for ya
Moto did officially announce that the Milestone will NOT get Gingerbread...
We're coming up to the end of Q1 - Where's my 2.2 update?
@Kent
There will not be an upgrade to Gingerbread for Milestone A853.
Mark
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I'm not allowed to link to outside forums, so you can check here:
supportforums.motorola.com/message/341797#341797
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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Motorola does not list the Droid 3 on any of their roadmaps...it is like they just forgot about the device.
I would not hold my breath but at this point there is no official response in ether direction.
We are all waiting for Motorola to issue some updates... I think they are going to make the announcements all at the same time, of which phones will and won't make the upgrade.
D3 is in good shape though, it runs almost the same CPU and GPU as Galaxy Nexus, just has half the memory. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
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Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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I remember seeing somewhere that motorola is redoing their software update page on their website, I know they are working on it as we speak. I would hope that it's soon, I remember google saying that the updates should be quicker with ICS but saying and doing are two different things.
prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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Even if Moto and Verizon don't officially give ICS to the D3, you can bet that shortly after they release it for either the Razr or Bionic that it will be ported in it's "blurred" setup to the D3.
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Even if Moto and Verizon don't officially give ICS to the D3, you can bet that shortly after they release it for either the Razr or Bionic that it will be ported in it's "blurred" setup to the D3.
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Keep in mind that if they don't release it for the Droid 3, the "ported" version based from those won't get the new kernel that those devices get along with their ICS upgrade...
If they release just one of the phones Hash supports for ICS with a camera, that is all we really need anyway.
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If they release just one of the phones Hash supports for ICS with a camera, that is all we really need anyway.
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Not if the app relies on the newer kernel that the upgrade will bring to the other devices...
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Motorola released their "staging plans" for ICS upgrades...
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
DROID 3
USA
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow.
They state that some products may not make it beyond the Evaluation stage....
Categorized in 1 Gig ram devices and 512 Meg Ram devices. Bionic, Razr and Droid4 are also listed as "Evaluation & Planning".
This is good news, but dumb because all those 4 phones should have been evaluated when being made for ics compatibility
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prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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http://bit.ly/MotoSoftUpdate
there is some info (but not confirmed)
same update page but custom url
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i hope D3 and bionic get Official ICS (mb200 in latam didnt get 2.1 so i would not give all my hopes again and then rant a "never more and/again Motorola" quote
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This is good news, but dumb because all those 4 phones should have been evaluated when being made for ics compatibility
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I wonder if they had to build their new blur before making the actual ICS builds for their phones.
Still I'm happy that they have at least acknowledged that the D3 might get updated to ICS maybe someday possibly a remote chance.
Interesting...the Motorola Razr is in "Development" status but the Droid Razr is still only "Evaluation and Planning" stage....
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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Interesting...the Motorola Razr is in "Development" status but the Droid Razr is still only "Evaluation and Planning" stage....
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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I noticed the same thing... It looks like for the first time Canada might be getting something quicker than the US... (At least in the RAZR ICS upgrade department).
All I care about is that the RAZR upgrade code leaks so that way we can get the cameras working within CM9, then maybe I'll jump ship from stock.
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All I care about is that the RAZR upgrade code leaks so that way we can get the cameras working within CM9, then maybe I'll jump ship from stock.
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that still really doesn't help as Hashcode has pointed out the dependencies the ICS camera has on the ION driver inside the ICS kernel....which are not present in the Gingerbread kernel that will still be running on the Droid 3 with CM9.
These dependencies won't go away on a Razr ICS camera....as the kernel will be getting updated along with the OS when they push it out.
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Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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I agree. All Verizon dual-core phones - even the Bionic, Razr series and D4 - are the same status. I think that Verizon's approval process and bloatware install requirements have become too unpredictable to allow for a definitive upgrade period.
It wouldn't surprise me if a working ics blur rom existed at moto and was stable. The hurdle has always been verizon. I can't understand the forced bloat concept considering most users don't use it and will root now to rid themselves of it.
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....and Droid 3 is missing. Could still be coming down the pipeline, but it looks like we are out of luck for the first wave (not that surprising).
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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It's because the people at motorola that make these decisions don't even know what RAM is and haven't even heard of kernel or XDA-forums.
They think... Hm..1024 is more than 512.. lets not give 512 mb phones ICS.
If they'd at least unlock the damn bootloaders so people like hashcode can do it for them ffs
Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device, but this keyboard is just too nice. Motorola does a good job on the hardware but between the bloatware and the locked bootloader the software part can be disappointing. So we have an os released less than 6 months after our device was released and motorola basically says screw you. Verizon is just the messenger here.
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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I want the hardware acceleration front facing camera and face unlock.... then I will jump ship from stock on my xt860.
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Reporting the full Motorola update schedule site: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
interesting that bionic and d4 are still listed as evaluating. But even in best case, that droid 3 is only left out of the ics fun for the first rollout (vzw does say more updates are coming, and droid 2 did get updates almost 2 years after release), it looks like it will be a while - even some brand new devices that were in the vzw press release are scheduled for q3...
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Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device
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Our only hope is the Google takeover of Moto will change their bootloader policy. This then, I can't bring myself to buy another Moto phone.
By the time it comes to the Droid 3, it will be upgrade time...
Droid 3 is one of the best phones with android and qwerty and motorola dont plan to update to ICS?? Motorola in software decisions sucks!!! They never listened to the users
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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The big constraint is going to be the locked bootloader.
It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we might have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we will have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Neither myself, I just talking about an Oficial ICS support by Motorola...so cheers to Hashcode!
So I just found a leaked screen shot of Verizon's upgrade schedule to ICS!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/verizon-ic-update-schedule-leaked/
So the HTC Rezound should get the OTA next week on May 9th. The RAZR and RAZR MAXX will be getting the OTA in three weeks. But no mention of the Bionic... Oh yea, they decided to give us the .904 update while they finalized ICS for the newer phones. We just got shafted again.
Then again, its tough to know what is actually going on because they have to keep everything confidential. I doubt this would be case but if VZW and MOTO were having issues with ICS on the Bionic, I would have no problem giving them more time to make it right. But from what we've seen, it doesn't appear to be that innocent.
You do realize that we are a low priority because the phone isn't selling well, right? RAZR's the front-runner, making it a priority. We'll get ours by July, if we're lucky.
And yes, I am being a little pessimistic, but Motorola and Verizon need to step up their game already. Moto's making too many devices and Verizon's forcing bloat too much. That's what is slowing us down.
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I don't understand what is really taking that long. Development will continue on the latest and greatest but that doesn't mean we should get the shaft. I picked the bionic over the thunderbolt because I like the slightly thinner phone and longer screen even though it cost more.didn't think I would be buying a dead phone in terms of development. I should have just got the razr
I have Rooted 904 update Safestrap dual boot eclipse 2.2
My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
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There are ICS ROMs available for the Bionic. I've held off on flashing one because its my understanding that they are unstable and have missing features. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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Yes it is:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...and-Services/Mobile-Phones/DROID-BIONIC-US-EN
"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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it would be nice if they would just let us have it.
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"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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That's a pretty big oversight, mentioning the RAZR on the Bionic page like that... Now is that the mobile site only, or is it on the full site too?
That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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****ing awesome
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If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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Agreed
Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Saw the same thing. Dunno where people are getting that we're not getting ICS from. If the thunderbolt and INC2 are getting it, that would be a travesty for the Bionic not to.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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if you click on the motorola support forums link where it says that it takes u to a page explaining which devices are getting ics and the bionic among others is on that list but yeah :/ it will prolly be a while. maybe we can get lucky with cheesecake.
Guys why is this even a topic. It's been confirmed we are getting official ICS by several sources along with moto. The ICS source code was released a little over a month ago, that helped out the devs. We have a solid device for the price and we have devs good enough to keep us happy and get us through until mid to late summer when we get the real thing.
ICS source was released 6 months ago. That doesn't help matters since we don't have an official release, an unlocked bootloader, or a real ICS kernel, however.
Used Google Translate, maybe someone speaking korean can shed some light?
http://translate.google.com/transla...&u=http://www.lgnewsroom.co.kr/contents/12232
Got this from lgnewsroom.co.kr
I really don't want to produce some hype out of this, but maybe our LG P990 is also targetted to be upgraded starting today?
Old news: It's about Optimus Vu and LTE. Nothing for our 2X yet...
And the sad thing is that we have not even seen a leaked ics version yet...
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In June I am not hoping for any update, but I hope that by August, I officially ICS on my phone.
Or ask too much from LG?
It'll be easier to just change phone and never buy anything from LG again.
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In June I am not hoping for any update, but I hope that by August, I officially ICS on my phone.
Or ask too much from LG?
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yes. you ask too much
when we get a leak of ics, we will know that the official roll out will start in aprox ~3 months. so far this aint lookin too bright
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It'll be easier to just change phone and never buy anything from LG again.
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I would change LG to NVIDIA in the above statement, as none of the Tegra 2 phones so far (LG P990, Motorola Atrix ME-860, Samsung Galaxy R GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
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I would change LG to NVIDIA in the above statement, as none of the Tegra 2 phones so far (LG P990, Motorola Atrix ME-860, Samsung Galaxy R GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
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there are tegra 2 tablets that are running ics dude. its not nvidia's fault that lg is slow. although yes, i would prefer TI omap or even exynos cpu in my next phone.
Tegra 2 tablets are a different breed than smatphones. It's still LG fault.
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there are tegra 2 tablets that are running ics dude. its not nvidia's fault that lg is slow. although yes, i would prefer TI omap or even exynos cpu in my next phone.
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Tablets have a different tegra 2 chip, they have for example neon support. LG's faults are their false promises.
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When did they originally said they would release ICS?
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When did they originally said they would release ICS?
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at first they said Q2 2012, but surprise surprise now they say it will be Q3 2012 ( september or something)
I would say we all unite and beat all LG employes in they headquaters with they own phones!
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there are tegra 2 tablets that are running ics dude. its not nvidia's fault that lg is slow. although yes, i would prefer TI omap or even exynos cpu in my next phone.
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YES TABLETS!!!! is that a phone... no it isn't.
chances that LG will ship ICS update to O2X
With the current phase manufacturers are shipping out devices I simply can't believe that LG would be putting any effort to upgrade Optimus 2X to ICS in Q3/2012.
They will have already too many devices announced/in the pipeline at Q3/2012 where they will focus their development resources that they will not definitely to sacrifice any resources to platform they will not use anymore. And that's sad & irresponsible and eventually this kind of behavior will really hurt the whole Android story. Too many manufacturers are selling stuff they will discontinue supporting while people are still on the contract with their carriers. And honestly HW on Optimus 2x could live for ages if you just look on the HW spec.