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BEFORE you judge me lol : I'm a new android user, and I've searched and read through the forum and FAQs alike.
Sorry if this is already answered. I've tried the search and read through the FAQs already but there's so much information my head will just explode from it.
Also I'm a fresh android user (just switched over from the iPhone, yay?). I was a very enthusiastic jailbreaker for the iPhone when I was still using that device. Hence my enthusiasm for all things "hackable" for the Android device as well.
All my blabbering aside, I'm just wondering this.
When the Froyo update hits the i9000, your root and everything with it(custom firmwares and stuff?) will be "broken" and be restore as the "stock" Froyo firmware/build right?
Am I even making sense to anyone?
for new firmware, you have to flash it, and so, everything will loss, storage in your internal and external SD will remain but all you app, mod, messages, call log, contact, etc will be lost
like you've partition your home PC with app data saved in C drive and all other documents in D drive, when you reinstall your OS, you wipe off your C and install it again and everything in D should remain (if you do it the right way )
correct me if i am wrong
We won't know for sure, but the way HTC handles Froyo updates, there is no data loss.
But to reply OP, yes, root will most probably be lost. But ability to flash custom firmware should still be available. Afterall, in the first place we don't even need root to flash custom firmwares in the first place, at least on the SGS.
kenkiller said:
We won't know for sure, but the way HTC handles Froyo updates, there is no data loss.
But to reply OP, yes, root will most probably be lost. But ability to flash custom firmware should still be available. Afterall, in the first place we don't even need root to flash custom firmwares in the first place, at least on the SGS.
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So this does mean that we will be able to get the froyo update through kies even though we are running rooted custom ROM?
alright thanks for the speedy reply and clarification. i have a lot of new terms i'll need to learn for the android now. lol.
sorry, OP, are you talking about an official Samsung firmware update using kies or the one using odin3?
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nickporwal said:
So this does mean that we will be able to get the froyo update through kies even though we are running rooted custom ROM?
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Most probably not. You might have to return to stock firmware to get any updates from Kies.
But what's the point? The Froyo firmware will be available in the Odin form certainly.
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sorry, OP, are you talking about an official Samsung firmware update using kies or the one using odin3?
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i think the stock official firmware update. i'm also afraid that flashing a new OS for my current 2.1 will screw up any local settings. i need to do more research about this whole flashing, rooting thing...
shall spare you guys my questions. lol.
ironic from my previous post, i'll just like to ask one simple question.
since i'm a totally new android user, i should just wait for the OFFICIAL Froyo for the SGSi9000, update it and wait for some modified version of the OS, and i'll flash it over for a speedier, more accessable phone?
(i've read the FAQ a thousand times lol.)
Adevem said:
ironic from my previous post, i'll just like to ask one simple question.
since i'm a totally new android user, i should just wait for the OFFICIAL Froyo for the SGSi9000, update it and wait for some modified version of the OS, and i'll flash it over for a speedier, more accessable phone?
(i've read the FAQ a thousand times lol.)
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the official one is somewhat released near September as i remember... so you have to wait till that time to do it.... i know nothing about flashing using Kies since I am a new user to android as well
but what i am thinking is: either you flash the current firmware (JP3, JP2, etc) using Odin3 or the official firmware using the Kies, the chance is if you brick your phone, samsung will also not responsible for it, so... unless you take your phone to the customer service, you are still risking
well you definitely know more than me lol thanks for the information folks. imma root my phone, don't think there's any risk ye. wish me luck lol.
I am gonna necro this thread since I am an absolute idiot.
It took me a few days just to understand that root is not the SAME as flashing. Finally got that through my head. Hence I can keep my stock JG4 firmware while having root.
But what happens when Froyo comes along. As someone already said, we are going to lose root if we update via KIES. Then what? Do we just use the One Click Root to root our phone again? (Right now I haven't found a reason to flash to a custom ROM yet.)
I am asking this since I am sick of losing all my data in my phone every time I have to upgrade my firmware, but if I can't root my phone afterwards, titanium backup won't work.
snapper.fishes said:
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I am asking this since I am sick of losing all my data in my phone every time I have to upgrade my firmware, but if I can't root my phone afterwards, titanium backup won't work.
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as backup tool I use MyBackup Pro (paid app). it backups all (SMS, MMS, Call Logs, Settings ...) and your Apps too.
good stuff.
I got the captivate yesterday and I HAVE read quite a few threads in devolopment section, I do have android sdk, one click rootand a rom, think. Im torn between rooting and keeeping warenty, would like to run froyo and be able to flash back to att stock phone quick if needed for tech suport.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
This flashes you back to stock
at&t.
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clark222 said:
I got the captivate yesterday and I HAVE read quite a few threads in devolopment section, I do have android sdk, one click rootand a rom, think. Im torn between rooting and keeeping warenty, would like to run froyo and be able to flash back to att stock phone quick if needed for tech suport.
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Like mcord said above, u could do all u want, and then set it back to stock in case u run into any issue. Just be careful not to brick ur phone, and cross check if u can get into the download and recovery modes, in case ur phone gets stuck at any place.
i DID root due to one click root program, phone is fully operational got rom manager installed and oclf installed, tried titianium back up paid, didnt install, uninstalled it looking for an easy 2.2 rom to flash. but did android explorer backup.
clark222 said:
i DID root due to one click root program, phone is fully operational got rom manager installed and oclf installed, tried titianium back up paid, didnt install, uninstalled it looking for an easy 2.2 rom to flash. but did android explorer backup.
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You have to install the free version of titanium then the paid. The paid just unlocks features on the free version. It is not actually a standalone app
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oK will do, what will happen after att 2.2 update, will I still be in root?? If im still in root after update will I be able to use mobile hot spot feature?
You will need to re-root your phone IF and WHEN (if ever) AT&T releases the OTA 2.2.1 Froyo update.
After you start rooting and flashing - you'll never use AT&T's update as it is.. you'll just wait for the Odin or *.zip and do it that way.
I had to return the captivate, didnt work well as a phone. I did unroot it and master reset on it so its stock.. got an aria instead, works good as phone.
clark222 said:
I had to return the captivate, didnt work well as a phone. I did unroot it and master reset on it so its stock.. got an aria instead, works good as phone.
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Oh man... should have checked here first. Some people trade their captivates in a couple times before getting one that is "perfect". I've never seen a model that can be so different phone to phone.
Also, I hated the captivate on the stock rom and was having some huge buyers remorse. I thought I made a huge mistake not getting an iphone 4. It wasn't until I flashed a custom rom that I started to love this phone. I had the same feeling that you did, that it was a neat toy but not a good phone.
I updated to froyo 2.2 (leaked version) on my samsung captivate, and I was wondering if there was a possible way to downgrade back to 2.1.
*The only reason im not liking froyo 2.2 at the moment i cant seem to learn our find out how to root it...
Wanted to root to rom a custom rom?
"noobie question"--> if i was to downgrade to 2.2 back to stock 2.1 and root it to have super user, i could then be able to install a custom rom? OR what would other people suggest doing?
Could someone point me in the right way with a link or two maybe, or some suggestions?
bummmpppp! this is all so new to me!
Here's a link to the SuperOneClick to root and enable non-market apps.
And here's a thread for new captivate users.
You might have an easier time finding answers in the Captivate forum.
DiGi760 said:
Here's a link to the SuperOneClick to root and enable non-market apps.
And here's a thread for new captivate users.
You might have an easier time finding answers in the Captivate forum.
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Thanks so much for these thinks, I can use this SuperOneClick user on my Captivate with froyo 2.2 correct?
I like the froyo 2.2 just couldnt figure out how to get superuser, im trying to install a custom rom on it, never done it before just wanted to try one out and see! New to all this so probably have more questions haha !
Also another noobie question(s).
What does "flashing" mean?
lol
You have to be rooted to have superuser privileges.
Flashing a phone rom is like installing a new OS on a PC. Be careful on doing so and watch some videos and read up on it if you get brave to try flashing custom roms onto your device. Usually ppl use a windows app called Odin to do so. Make sure phone always charged 100% before flashing any new rom also. It could mess up battery stats otherwise and could risk brick if its almost dead then dies LOL. Assuming that's the context of flashing you meant.
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try bookmark this page 1st if anything wrong u can recover to original rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
It has everything you need to know about installing a custom ROM. Started like you all, found this post and now I have flashed like a 100 times Enjoy!
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Also another noobie question(s).
What does "flashing" mean?
lol
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Flashing in simple terms means to install a new OS version/Updates/Themes etc on the phone. The most common method found here in XDA is to use something called as Clockwork Recovery Mod.
Seriously, go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364 you will know what you need to do to flash a custom ROM. And may I suggest Firefly 2.1 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914284 as your first ROM. It is a good ROM. You will enjoy it. There are some other ROMs, if you ask which is the best, clearly there is none, it is purely on preference. Once you have flashed one ROM, and then a few, you will know which one you like.
1. installing a custom rom does not require a rooted phone, you can copy the update.zip to your sdcard and get into recovery, select the custom rom zip file and flash from there.
2. have you flashed a bios on a computer? flash a phone's rom is very similar to that.
Okay first of all, I would like to apologize if this is being posted in the wrong forum, or if I am upsetting anybody by posting this. I have searched all over for a couple days trying to figure this out. This is my last resort, and I'm hoping you guys can help. All of your time and understanding is much appreciated!
So a little background. About a week ago, I rooted my AT&T Captivate 2.2(build number 1012 if that helps) using Superoneclick, and then flashed CM7.1 using clockworkmod. I was not satisfied with CM7.1(terrible battery for me, other various reasons). I then downloaded MIUI (not sure which version, the one available on the premium version of clockworkmod) and flashed it using clockworkmod. This started with the cm bootscreen, and then went to an MIUI bootscreen that played a little tune. The miui screen looped, and it would not go past this.
After rebooting and running into the same thing, I went to f\attempt to find a solution. I thought I backed up my rom, but it had been erased (issue with the external sd I think). I used an odin one click I found on here, but this odin one click brought me back to eclair 2.1, instead of 2.2. Up until now, I could get into both download and recovery mode using the three button method, and now I can't. I am not sure what to do exactly. I have read about getting it into download mode using adb, but I'm not sure if that would work in my situation, and I'm not too educated on adb or android sdk. I stayed up almost all night last night, and now have researched most of today, not making much progress.
Thanks again for your time!
Just to clarify have you used all button methods in order to try to get into download mode. Seems as though flashing bootloaders may have f'ed up you combos. I have a couple suggestions. I'll edit my post as I find the urls to post for you
Stock GB ROM you should be using -- http://www.mediafire.com/?05nemq5yyn5fuqf, this one has bootloaders, but preferably you should use stock odin roms that don't mess with the BL's (after this of course, since yours are messed up right now).
Now of course this depends upon you getting into download mode. If you can use ROMmanager (btw, I don't recommend you download your roms from rommanager, as that will not always be the most up to date and may not be the one for you) to get into recovery mode, then from there go to advanced then reboot download. However some kernels do not support this. Try the cable methods before trying this method.
First of all, I appreciate your help Mikel.canovas. I have used all the button methods. I can no longer get into recovery or download. (Romtoolbox enables me to get into recovery(2E), but not download). I now have root access, but am not able to sideload apps, and apparently rommanager free isn't available on the market. I did buy rommanager premium, but unfortunately now that I basically reset my phone, it doesn't show up as bought (known issue, apparently not resolved?), and even after I bought it again, it says I need the free version to even use the premium version.
Should I go through the process to be able to sideload apps? Or will romtoolbox do the trick? Rom toolbox gives me the option to install a rom from my sd card. Should I use that, and select the GB ROM you provided? I'm not sure I understood exactly how you want me to get that GB ROM onto my phone.
What I want to eventually have is either MIUI or rom fasty on my phone. If possible, could you give me some steps on how to reach that goal?
Thanks again for your time. Eclair on the captivate is not pleasant, especially since I had a taste of CM.
Well first off I highly recommend Mosaic over CM or Fasty, solely because of performance and battery life. However that is all subjective.
Ah since you're rom is sending to 2E recovery, you're not rooted with cwm. You need to flash another kernel that supports this. Afterwards, If you can get into CWM, I recommend putting CM onto your sdcard and flashing from there. After booting into CM hold down the power button, press reboot, choose reboot download. See if that works. If not, does adb reboot download work for you? If not again, I recommend trying another USB port, reinstalling drivers, trying different button combos. I've had issues getting into download mode in the past and, trust me, it is VERY frustrating.
Well first of all, before you back into flashing stuff, don't flash to stock unless you have done everything possible with the tools on your phone. I'm assuming you gave it at least 5 minutes to boot up, as the first boot can variably take longer. You could go into recovery and wipe stuff, or you could have gone back to CM7. A flash to stock is probably never necessary in the situation you reported.
Anyway, if you can get into recovery, maybe try getting a kernel that allows you to reboot into download from recovery. Although that will depends on what kernel you are on right now, as I know speedmod kernel has that option, but you would need to get to download to flash that.
And as another poster wrote, have you tried all button combinations?
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Well first of all, before you back into flashing stuff, don't flash to stock unless you have done everything possible with the tools on your phone. I'm assuming you gave it at least 5 minutes to boot up, as the first boot can variably take longer. You could go into recovery and wipe stuff, or you could have gone back to CM7. A flash to stock is probably never necessary in the situation you reported.
Anyway, if you can get into recovery, maybe try getting a kernel that allows you to reboot into download from recovery. Although that will depends on what kernel you are on right now, as I know speedmod kernel has that option, but you would need to get to download to flash that.
And as another poster wrote, have you tried all button combinations?
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Or download SGS Kernel Flasher from the market. You can then flash kernels with the app. without having to go into download mode. Very handy.
Once again guys, thank you for your time. A little more information:
Kernel:
2.6.29
[email protected]#12
Baseband:
I897UCJF6
Let me know if you need any other information.
I am able to get into download mode using the terminal emulator in rom tool box. (The free version of rom manager is no longer on the market)
I was hoping one of you could give me a step by step of what I need to do, with links to downloads.
And yes, I have tried all off the three button methods. Also, I probably should have researched more before I flashed back to stock.
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wwcjr91 said:
Once again guys, thank you for your time. A little more information:
Kernel:
2.6.29
[email protected]#12
Baseband:
I897UCJF6
Let me know if you need any other information.
I am able to get into download mode using the terminal emulator in rom tool box. (The free version of rom manager is no longer on the market)
I was hoping one of you could give me a step by step of what I need to do, with links to downloads.
And yes, I have tried all off the three button methods. Also, I probably should have researched more before I flashed back to stock.
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If nobody beats me to it, I will post you some links tomorrow when I'm on my laptop.
Oh, and miui won't really give you better battery life than CM7. It basically is CM7 with a different UI. I loved CM7 a ton, so if you are having issues with it, let me know! With the right kernel and other settings, battery life is pretty decent, as long as you charge nightly.
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wwcjr91 said:
Once again guys, thank you for your time. A little more information:
Kernel:
2.6.29
[email protected]#12
Baseband:
I897UCJF6
Let me know if you need any other information.
I am able to get into download mode using the terminal emulator in rom tool box. (The free version of rom manager is no longer on the market)
I was hoping one of you could give me a step by step of what I need to do, with links to downloads.
And yes, I have tried all off the three button methods. Also, I probably should have researched more before I flashed back to stock.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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What is the build number of your phone? It's located under your battery, looks something like 10.06,10.07, 10.08 and so on
Alright, thank you, I will be checking back tomorrow.
Eventually what I want is to have the working 3 button combos again for both download and recovery mode, and either the miui, mosaic or rom fasty on my phone.
Easy flash GB BL's and you won't have to worry about 3 button problems!
If you didnt do a Master Clear, now would be the time. Make sure you back up anything you want to keep. MC will erase EVERYTHING on your internal SD
Remove your Micro SD, and your SIM
Download:
OneClick Root
SideLoadWonderMachine This also has CWM, 3ButtonFix and ROM Manager in the zip
Make sure you have Debugging enabled
Connect to your PC
Run One Click Root, and follow the instructions, reboot
Run Sideload Wonder Machine and direct it to install ROM Manager
Copy the update.zip(CWM) and 3Button Fix to your phone
Open ROM manager and "reboot to recovery"
You'll go thru the boot twice to get to CWM
In CWM install the 3 Button Fix
I usually pop out the battery and check it before I put the ROM in.
VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! DO NOT TRY TO USE THE 3ButtonFix while you have a GB ROM installed you WILL brick your phone. It only works on 2.1, and 2.2 ROM's
using this one click package I now am able to manually enter download and recovery :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
However, The recovery is still 2e..
kangi26 said:
What is the build number of your phone? It's located under your battery, looks something like 10.06,10.07, 10.08 and so on
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1012, do you think any of my problems would have to do with the build number? WHen I got it, it had froyo with the working button combinations.
Sorry, I didn't see that until now.
I now have clockwork recovery, and I'm about to try out fasty. Thanks again guys.
So can I delete this thread? And if so, should I? I've found plenty of threads that seem outdated, and fill up the search engine.
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1012, do you think any of my problems would have to do with the build number? WHen I got it, it had froyo with the working button combinations.
Sorry, I didn't see that until now.
I now have clockwork recovery, and I'm about to try out fasty. Thanks again guys.
So can I delete this thread? And if so, should I? I've found plenty of threads that seem outdated, and fill up the search engine.
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The only reason I asked about the build # is because the 10.08's were pretty commonly known to have 3 button issues. Also, anything above 1012 and using Odin1 Click could soft brick. I was just checking as I was offering info
kangi26 said:
The only reason I asked about the build # is because the 10.08's were pretty commonly known to have 3 button issues. Also, anything above 1012 and using Odin1 Click could soft brick. I was just checking as I was offering info
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Trying to fix my buddys cappy. Its rooted on T-Mobile and running stock 2.1 rom. I'm not a Samsung guy so how do I get cwm and a 2.3 rom? The build number is ECLAIR.UCJH7
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Go to this Stickied Thread in the Development Forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18370235&postcount=1
And u will have to use one with the Bootloaders included, because to run a gingerbread firmware u gotta have the gb bootloaders.
Post #3 has the "leaked" KK4 (Been confirmed to be the same as official).
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Go to this Stickied Thread in the Development Forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18370235&postcount=1
And u will have to use one with the Bootloaders included, because to run a gingerbread firmware u gotta have the gb bootloaders.
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Since its already rooted do I need a computer?
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Yep. Because these are Odin or Heimdall One Clicks.
You can't just flash to a GB firmware/rom from Eclair/Froyo without using Odin or Heimdall to at least get the Gb Bootloaders. You cannot just go through CWM recovery unless u already have the GB Bootloaders.
Of course u can get it all through mini Kies, the official GB 2.3.5 KK4 update that is.
Quick question to the vivid folks, does thecubed's restore work? (the one from ICS to GB). I was reading through some of the questions and it seems like some people had trouble working it out. Has anyone had success with it? I dont want to end up like the guy who had his radios deleted...
I can't directly answer your question. If you are stock and un-rooted the update through ATT works really well. I had no issues whatsoever with the update..
My issue with ICS right now is there no voice dialer when using bluetooth. Other than that it is really fluid and works well.
im on the pre rooted ics and i dont really like it. I'm going back to GB.
never used thecubed's method, but i have installed holiraider(gb) rom after ive installed pgs rumfloat(ics) with no problems
just flashed the boot.img through fasboot then flashed the rom zip on cwm
and everything worked fine
hope this helps
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^didnt know you could do that. hmm. I might just do that...
Hanzee94 said:
Quick question to the vivid folks, does thecubed's restore work? (the one from ICS to GB). I was reading through some of the questions and it seems like some people had trouble working it out. Has anyone had success with it? I dont want to end up like the guy who had his radios deleted...
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I can only assume that when you say "that guy" you mean me, but that method works, but it won't downgrade your radio back to the gb radio. what you thought was deleted radios was a result of swapping out RIL files so the rom didn't know what show in the info because the files are different and can't be swapped out like on other htc phones such as the inspire 4g. and the reason i was playing around with that is because i believe it's what causes people hearing their echo back when i talk to them while i'm on speakerphone.
with that being said, good luck to you. let me know if you have similar issues otherwise ur stuck on ics
i3am5not8real13 said:
never used thecubed's method, but i have installed holiraider(gb) rom after ive installed pgs rumfloat(ics) with no problems
just flashed the boot.img through fasboot then flashed the rom zip on cwm
and everything worked fine
hope this helps
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I can vouch for this as well. I flashed back and forth between ICS and GB ROMS. Just fastboot flash the boot image and do not try to reflash any HBOOT to go back to GB or you will likely brick your Vivid.
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I used thecubeds' GB restore 2x: #1 went from ICS RUU.52 to GB then did the OTA to .56 and #2 my wifes phone got an error during the .56 OTA install. I just pulled the battery and put in my EXT SD with the PH file and went back to GB then did the OTA again with success. It's pretty simple and worked perfectly both times. Glad I have that file. Thanks thecubed!