Vivd of SGSII - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

Me and my mother are switching to At&t soon, and I'm kinda stuck. I have an Epic on Sprint now and development is top notch. Miui,cm7,cm9, sense ports are being worked on, its just great. What my issue is, is I can't figure out what phone to get. I'm stuck mostly between the HTC Vivid and the OG SGSII. Development is huge for me, I'm a terrible flashaholic. I NEED good stuff to flash such as cm, miui, and stuff like that. Benchmarks don't matter to me.. but development does.. what do you guys think I should do? I LOVE amoled displays, I'm not sure that an LCD could win me over, but you can try and convince me. Lol
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Personally, i am in the midst of trying to sell my Vivid and get an SGSII
The SGSII is quite a lot faster and has INSANE amount of dev (**** ton of ROMs/MODs)
Personally I'd suggest the SGSII
(Also, wrong forum, should be in General rather then Dev)

Oh ****.. I didn't realized I did that. Now I look like a ghetto noob. FML. Sorry everyone!! But good to know man. Yeah the sgsii has so many roms and stuff.. like holy ish. I thought about the skyrocket but it has like 2 roms. Heck no
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I believe you already answered your own question. No miui, no amoled screen, only a handful of roms at the moment. It sounds like you should go with the SGS II. I truly think the vivid > SGS II but everyone will have their opinions.

samsung screen wasnt impressive nor was the camera....had both vivid and skyrocket gave skyrocket away for a present...kept the lg nitro and got another vivid for development...but to each their own ...build quality the samsung just feels cheap and not made with quality....all plastic everything...i like a heavy phone....went from inspire to vivid...good luck in your choice.
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ceasee said:
The SGSII is quite a lot faster and has INSANE amount of dev (**** ton of ROMs/MODs)
Personally I'd suggest the SGSII
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Be care full which version of SGSII you get ,the LTE version or any version with snapdragon is not fast as the one with samsung processor.
But the LTE one for sure will have way better speeds for download , so pick what you use most,

The vivid screen looks way crispier imo. As far as roms all quality in this forum not to mention sense is the bomb.
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I got to admit sense is pretty amazing
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nbunn said:
Me and my mother are switching to At&t soon, and I'm kinda stuck. I have an Epic on Sprint now and development is top notch. Miui,cm7,cm9, sense ports are being worked on, its just great. What my issue is, is I can't figure out what phone to get. I'm stuck mostly between the HTC Vivid and the OG SGSII. Development is huge for me, I'm a terrible flashaholic. I NEED good stuff to flash such as cm, miui, and stuff like that. Benchmarks don't matter to me.. but development does.. what do you guys think I should do? I LOVE amoled displays, I'm not sure that an LCD could win me over, but you can try and convince me. Lol
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No one should convince you what phone to get. Atm the OG SGSII satisfies the requirements you are looking for.
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skyrocket dev is really good too i had both gs2 and gs2 skyrocket on att. Skyrocket devs are working on getting aosp ics on it and plenty of fast themed roms that make the skyrocjet just as fast as the sgs2 plus the lte speeds which are amazing.
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I had the Vivid for 30 days, traded for the galaxy sII for almost 30 days, hated it.. cartoony colors, and no Sense.. which I missed. So now I'm back to the Vivid... I love it and never should have left. But that's my opinion... Just do what feels right

I'm gonna stick to my Vivid until the quad core phones come out this spring. GSII is old and played out now. I'm waiting on the GSIII to be announced hopefully next month than I'm all over it. I'll even buy the international version of GSIII when it comes out instead of waiting 6 months for AT&T to get it. Right now, if nobody is desperate for a new phone, just wait a month until we see whats new at Mobile World Congress being held next month.

I can't speak for the SGSII, but as far as the Vivid goes - it's an adventure to say the least. Definitely gotta vouch for the overall build quality and feel of HTC over the Sammies. Development on the Vivid is coming along, and the ongoing development on the Vivid is very active with updates and interaction happening constantly. I feel like the Vivid development community is getting very close to hitting a key moment, at which time the breakthroughs will explode. Kinda like that moment in watching a movie when you just 'feel' that a key fact is about to be unveiled and the plot all starts to make sense. Just my opinion fwiw; ymmv and others may disagree

It's more about, are you willing to wait for better ROM s and MODs. Personally, I'm an HTC fan all the way and the Vivid is yet another bad ass phone from them. Just because you can flash a ton of stuff to it..doesn't mean you will be happy with it. You basically answered your own question..you can modify the software, but you are stuck with the hardware.
Sent from my HTC... 'nuff said.

I have an HTC Vivid, and I have a friend that has a SGSII, so I have used it alot, and I would have to say that I much prefer my Vivid. Its faster and I like the Sense UI way more than TouchWiz. I also prefer the screen on my Vivid to the SGSII. It just seems brighter and more...well...vivid lol. So, If I had to do it again, I would still get the Vivid.

I think is a matter of preference. I have the skyrocket and bought the wife the white vivid. Here's my opinion I dislike sense it's not that bad I just think is bloated and overly complicated for no reason. Tw is less intrusive. But here's the problem I hate the build quality on the vivid it's too heavy and the screen brakes extremely easy( wifey broke the screen already lol) I preferred the light thing profile on the skyrocket plus the Amoled screen just stand out more. I just hate the feeling of metal on my phone.
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I think is a matter of preference. I have the skyrocket and bought the wife the white vivid. Here's my opinion I dislike sense it's not that bad I just think is bloated and overly complicated for no reason. Tw is less intrusive. But here's the problem I hate the build quality on the vivid it's too heavy and the screen brakes extremely easy( wifey broke the screen already lol) I preferred the light thing profile on the skyrocket plus the Amoled screen just stand out more. I just hate the feeling of metal on my phone.
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I had the Skyrocket, but the low resolution and overly saturated cartoony colors put me off.

All I have to say is:
Check the chart - the figures don't lie. I love my Raider!
(Running HoliRaider 1.6 with the 1.5GHz kernel.. but the kicker was installing chainfire 3D and the plugins you can find with our pal google. Also, installing the plugins allowed me to run THD titles flawlessly. Just sayin'...)
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Check the chart - the figures don't lie. I love my Raider!
(Running HoliRaider 1.6 with the 1.5GHz kernel.. but the kicker was installing chainfire 3D and the plugins you can find with our pal google. Also, installing the plugins allowed me to run THD titles flawlessly. Just sayin'...)
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Congrats you beat a stock SGSII
My Telus(same as the T-mobile ver) goes way beyond what you got ..im running underclocked to 1.125ghz kernel and i just got 1112352541142..imagine at 1.5
The dev is tons better for our phone since 4 carriers carry essentially the same phone. HTC phones have dull screens that are poor in sunlight. My friend just got this phone which is why im here lookin up stuff for him, and its not impressive at all.

Rekzer said:
Congrats you beat a stock SGSII
My Telus(same as the T-mobile ver) goes way beyond what you got ..im running underclocked to 1.125ghz kernel and i just got 1112352541142..imagine at 1.5
The dev is tons better for our phone since 4 carriers carry essentially the same phone. HTC phones have dull screens that are poor in sunlight. My friend just got this phone which is why im here lookin up stuff for him, and its not impressive at all.
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The screen on the Raider/Velocity/Vivid is excellent in producing accurate colors. GSII on the other hand is over saturated in color, but I will say it looks bright enough under the sun. Keep in mind that the if the Telus version is the same as the T-Mobile, then it shares the same processor as the Velocity. Performance in reality should be very similar, the difference you are seeing really stems from running a LOWER resolution screen. I personally think that Sense is much better than TouchWiz, but that is why I'm in this part of the forum.
I do think that at 1.5, you would likely get excellent results. Although quite frankly, without LTE radio, Telus really should have gone with the Exynos

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Thrill 4G kills all the phones

Hi to all of you.
The LG Thrill 4G kills all the phones I had until now with build quality and speed even the paper phone Galaxy S 2. This year I tried, here we go Nexus one, G2, Mytouch 4G, Galaxy s Captivate and Vibrant, G2X, Htc Sensation, Atrix 4g, Infuse 4G and still have the Nexus S just for having the most up to date software. How you guys feel ? don't you think its a better phone in general even its on 2.2 which is not a problem because in general I don't see there is a huge difference between 2.2 and 2.3 for me.
Love the screen, speed, build quality, plays any video without a problem, the sound, the only thing I see now is the battery draining fast but it will get better in 2 weeks once it goes true couple of cycles of charges, please share how you feel thanx.
Just loving the phone that's all
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the lg thrill has the same specs as the o3d but has a other radio
Yes I know its the same phone
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Yes I know its the same phone
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so far i have to disagree.
Ive had the Atrix, Inspire, Infuse, & Captivate this year.
This is my least favorite of all of them.
Horrible battery, Delayed response on wake, outdated OS, gets hot, etc etc.
As soon as the GS2 releases ill be switching.
The 3D is a gimmick and will never be anything more than that on a cell phone.
I do agree with you on that. Im getting 2800 on my bech mark which is pretty good for froyo. I like the omap processor better then the others. This chipset has the same gpu that samsung uses so you will get pretty good performance. I have been running into a little issue with my device freakin out. Hopefully I can get cyanogenmod on here. I also found an extended batter for this thing too so looking into doing that so it will last a lot longer
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so far i have to disagree.
Ive had the Atrix, Inspire, Infuse, & Captivate this year.
This is my least favorite of all of them.
Horrible battery, Delayed response on wake, outdated OS, gets hot, etc etc.
As soon as the GS2 releases ill be switching.
The 3D is a gimmick and will never be anything more than that on a cell phone.
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Battery: I agree, it drains a lot faster than my Infuse 4G did, but that much was expected due to the dual-core CPU etc.
Delayed response on wake: I don't have this issue, and I'm using WidgetLocker.
outdated OS: A lot of people complain about that, but no one ever explains WHY they want gingerbread. I had it on the Infuse - yes, it was not, but there's nothing that I could do in Gingerbread that I can't do now, except say that I have Gingerbread. I have a problem with people who "demand" the latest OS but have no idea why they want or need it.
Gets hot: also not having the issue, but I'm using the stock cable that came with the phone.
I have some complaints but they are minor (like how I'm always accidentally hitting the 3D button), and I'm glad that I returned my Infuse for the Thrill. Once cyanogen is released I will be golden.
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Battery: I agree, it drains a lot faster than my Infuse 4G did, but that much was expected due to the dual-core CPU etc.
Delayed response on wake: I don't have this issue, and I'm using WidgetLocker.
outdated OS: A lot of people complain about that, but no one ever explains WHY they want gingerbread. I had it on the Infuse - yes, it was not, but there's nothing that I could do in Gingerbread that I can't do now, except say that I have Gingerbread. I have a problem with people who "demand" the latest OS but have no idea why they want or need it.
Gets hot: also not having the issue, but I'm using the stock cable that came with the phone.
I have some complaints but they are minor (like how I'm always accidentally hitting the 3D button), and I'm glad that I returned my Infuse for the Thrill. Once cyanogen is released I will be golden.
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after playing with pretty much all of the above, I have to agree..this phone rocks.
the 3d is much better than a gimmick assuming you pay attention to how to use it. I have compared it to the Evo3d and the NDS3d and of course our 3d TV...
It's great...if you don't see it..you're doing it wrong..plain and simple.
It's an added bonus to all of the other great things about this phone. I have run, and will continue to run more tests on the Thrill side by side with the infuse and the US SGS2 ...so far the Thrill stomps the Samsung phones ...every single time.
It is a more comfortable fit for me than the infuse, but I think that is because my previous phone was an Evo...the weight and dimensions are very similar.
Build quality is great..I don't feel like it is going to break if I hold it wrong
I don't get the lag that some have experienced but I also did some minor tweaks to speed things up a bit.
Sumper Amoled blah blah blah... I love the Sammy screens, I compared their screens to others and until now, I favored the sammy screen... This Thrill has a much better screen than what I expected (especially after all of the negative reviews it received on the screen)
The LG widgets are awesome..they make sense, they are perfectly sized, and they work within launcher pro..yay!
anyway..I still have some testing to do ..I have not played many games on the Thrill, and have a few select games that were only playable on the Infuse so I want to try those out.
The only thing the atrix had that interested me was dev support...I disliked just about everything else about it
We will get that support..or we will create it buwahahahaha
I agree about the 3D - it's not the main reason why I was interested in the phone, but it's an added bonus, and one that I enjoy very much. I thought it was just a gimmick at first too, but then I took a test picture in the AT&T store of my two-year-old, and I was sold from that moment. I look at it like this: 3D is becoming more and more prevalent, whether you think it's a gimmick or not. The movie and electronics industries are throwing their money behind it. Do I want to miss out on being able to display 3D pictures of my two-year-old 10 years from now when ALL TVs are 3D capable because I thought it was a fad?
Granted there are probably better phones with better 3D capabilities coming down the pipe, but by then she will be 3 or even 4 years old. I can upgrade again if the need arises. But I certainly don't want to look back and say "I wish I had a 3D picture of that to share." Now I will.
Agreed i had the atrix with laptop dock and i was discusted with with it plus in.all the test ive.ran thrill beats em up! with the extra money i bought a gtab wifi so im a happy camper anywho plus i guess i dont really need pc specs in my picked aka gs2 i dont feel like saying . Dude this has 1.2ghz dual core blah blah i rather just say look at my phone it has 3 d lol
Anywho im happy with my buys recently!
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Here's my .02. This year I have had the captivate, inspire 4g, iphone 4 and now the thrill. I have to say the thrill is BY FAR my favorite out of the devices. I experience no lag whatsoever, GPS works perfect, reception is MUCH MUCH better than the inspire, screen is more vibrant than the inspire, web browser blows the captivate out of the water (freezing issue with flash content on every samsung phone I've tested), camera is on point, and I even like the interface/widgets LG has included. My only complaints are battery life which is a problem on any android phone and the earpiece sounds a little weird but nothing major. Bottom line, this phone rocks!
Anyone throw CM7 on this baby yet? How's it running?
Agree with most of what has been said. Have had the phone for 3 days now. (well actually it has been in my possesion for about half that time as my 11 year keeps nabbing it to play NOVA).
Just a quick questions though. Anybody have the freezing problem that the G2x had? My phone just did it right after a 4 minute conversation and I was trying to run OOKla Speedtest. Had to pull battery to get it to reboot.
Last night I had that issue right after a phone call. The screen turned black wouldnt turn on. I will see how it goes for the next few days.
No freezing here after 4 days with the phone.
I do love the OP's first words though, I think I will say that next time I walk into a room with a bunch of iPhone sheep. "Hi to all of you. The LG Thrill 4G kills all the phones." And hold up my phone. Should be fun.
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Yeah has this phone since Sunday and I love it. I have had 0 lag issues. Apps install almost instantly the screen is very impressive for being a LCD the size and weight are perfect. Large screen and I like a little weight to my devices makes them feel like they wont break on me.
My phone gets warm with heavy use but never hot I havent had to worry about overheating and I have been using the crap out of this phone. The 3D is good, gives me a headache and my eyes go crossed if look at it too long but, it works well especially if you adjust the field depth correctly for the scene. The 1080p video looks great as do the photos. Froyo is just fine I can wait for gingerbread as long as att/lg actually come through. Either way roms will take care of that.
Anybody else switch from the android keyboard to the lg one? I like the look of the lg keyboard better than stock android or anything else on the market.
Oh and I agree "kills all the phones" needs to be a meme.
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I do a lot of gaming on android devices and I have the chainfire installed using the tegra drivers and I put riptide gp on it.. A game I originally had on my galaxy tab 10.1 which has the tegra native chipset.. I saw no difference in speed or graphics or anything.... My friend did the same stuff to his infuse 4g and when I play it side by side my phone is smooth and fluid!!!!! This phone is a powerhouse!!! Oh and I,use swype keyboard
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all I can say is it sure is hungry. Extreme heavy use gets me 8-9 hours of use. Haven't had a chance to see 'Normal' use yet. Banning it from my son might help. going to have look for an extended or backup battery.
I'm using the "android" keyboard. I might try swiftkey again; it lagged the heck out of my captivate but it was free so I tried it.
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Haven't tried to load CM7 yet, but I see there is a video of it running on the O3D, so they are working on an official one.
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Hmm, sadly I can agree with most of this. The 3D is 'OK' but not great.
I find myself Overheating, Uninstalling, & Lowering Brightness A LOT!
I personally have a sensual love for the phone
But sadly it's not something I can rely on for a full day basis. I'm currently saving up money just so I can get my hands on the CHEAPO Huawei just put on AT&T.
I might put the LG Thrill ROM on my Huawei cause of the weather app & other personal reasons.
If there's a 10/1 on LG, I am dissappointed. 7 At the most for my daily use! 4 On keeping me changing and uninstalling things.

Roms devs please read - $$$ for grabs here - non-sense rom!

Hi,
HELP STOP THE SENSE PLAGUE!!!
I initially posted this:
bennec83 said:
This is real good...i am running ICS on Sensation, and it is fantastic (apart from the random reboots and FC every 5 mins!)
although i think the dev of that rom has decided to drop it!
I absolutely cannot stand HTC sense...I am really hoping for this to work!!
(also I am willing to pay someone decent $$$ to make a non sense rom for now....JUST throwing that out there...if your interested...message me!)
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Thinking that there would be no support for my pledge, but within a few hours there were more replies:
lsun06 said:
I'm also willing to pay decent money for a ROM w NO sense....hate it !
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and
jpitch2415 said:
If we get it in the next month or so I'm donating $50 , after playing around with a nexus I love me some ics not so much the phone but its soooo smooth
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So all in all:
bennec83 said:
Im also in for $50-100...so there seems to be around $200 for grabs at the moment...maybe ill start a thread and post it in the sense rom threads to get some interest!!
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I call to all SENSE haters...add your pledges here
I call to all devs...need a challenge and some reward for doing it...pm me or post here!!!
The rom would have to be maintained and improved etc, not just an initial few releases and then dropped like a lot of the HTC Sensation Virtuous roms and such like.....
Why didnt you go with the s2 or the 4s then if you knew this was going to have htc sense on stock
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Why didnt you go with the s2 or the 4s then if you knew this was going to have htc sense on stock
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the what or what?
That's like asking, why not buy the miata instead of the mustang...I like the mustang and the potential, miata is cheap and ugly.....I like the vivid, hate the sense.
I was quoted as offering for a non sense from...I'd give every bit of 50.00.
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Why didnt you go with the s2 or the 4s then if you knew this was going to have htc sense on stock
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x1000000000000000
I don't know why are you guys asking for a non-sense ROM for a HTC device, if you hate sense that much you should go for the Samsung Galaxy S2 or the Skyrocket or the Galaxy Nexus or the crappy iPhone 4S or any other device of any other brand for that matters, they have almost the same tech specs of the Holiday/Raider/Vivid/Velocity and THEY DON'T HAVE SENSE!!!
I did my ROM because I love sense 3.5 and I love this device for having sense and I love HTC for everything they do with sense.
So this is a no go for me, being a dev for this device is because I DO WANT to have the smoothest sense on my phone.
Sorry and good luck with this.
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That's like asking, why not buy the miata instead of the mustang...I like the mustang and the potential, miata is cheap and ugly.....I like the vivid, hate the sense.
I was quoted as offering for a non sense from...I'd give every bit of 50.00.
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I don't know why are you guys asking for a non-sense ROM for a HTC device, if you hate sense that much you should go for the Samsung Galaxy S2 or the Skyrocket or the Galaxy Nexus or the crappy iPhone 4S or any other device of any other brand for that matters, they have almost the same tech specs of the Holiday/Raider/Vivid/Velocity and THEY DON'T HAVE SENSE!!!
I did my ROM because I love sense 3.5 and I love this device for having sense and I love HTC for everything they do with sense.
So this is a no go for me, being a dev for this device is because I DO WANT to have the smoothest sense on my phone.
Sorry and good luck with this.
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Your question has been answered by the post above, the devices you mentioned may have the same specs, but ! I dont like samsung, or iPhone!
Every HTC device I have had has had pretty much a 50/50 split with pure AOSP/Sensless and sense, this is the only time I have seen a HTC device with ONLY Sense custom Roms!
Thanks anyway!
Being as this is a device thats not that popular, youll be waiting awhile for anything like that....sorry to say it but i personally cant stand plain jane android....got rid of samsung skyrocket,still have the lg nitro sitting in the box collecting dust....i like the sense on a phone...to each their own @preferences but youll be hard pressed to find a dev thats goingn to devote all the time to another type of build for this phone right now....
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Your question has been answered by the post above, the devices you mentioned may have the same specs, but ! I dont like samsung, or iPhone!
Every HTC device I have had has had pretty much a 50/50 split with pure AOSP/Sensless and sense, this is the only time I have seen a HTC device with ONLY Sense custom Roms!
Thanks anyway!
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device gets unlocked bootloader end of december, and by february people are demanding cm7/cm9/aosp
its not like our section is crawling with devs, dude. fk we cant even get some themers going. WC is right, device wasnt very popular, and it was screwed out of the gate by the locked bootloader..... #blameATT
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device gets unlocked bootloader end of december, and by february people are demanding cm7/cm9/aosp
its not like our section is crawling with devs, dude. fk we cant even get some themers going. WC is right, device wasnt very popular, and it was screwed out of the gate by the locked bootloader..... #blameATT
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I am a themer...what do you want themed!!!
seroiusly...so you telling me i have just paid a boatload for a piece of crap...this device has literally only just been released over in AUS!!
HAPPY HOUR RANTS.....gotta love em...lmao
Pirateghost said:
device gets unlocked bootloader end of december, and by february people are demanding cm7/cm9/aosp
its not like our section is crawling with devs, dude. fk we cant even get some themers going. WC is right, device wasnt very popular, and it was screwed out of the gate by the locked bootloader..... #blameATT
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I am a themer...what do you want themed!!! seroiusly...
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please....theme our sense roms to make them not so......sense... LOL
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please....theme our sense roms to make them not so......sense... LOL
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you mean something like this:
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this was something i worked on a while ago...maybe i could port it for sense...
Pirateghost said:
device gets unlocked bootloader end of december, and by february people are demanding cm7/cm9/aosp
its not like our section is crawling with devs, dude. fk we cant even get some themers going. WC is right, device wasnt very popular, and it was screwed out of the gate by the locked bootloader..... #blameATT
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True that. I can only imagine what things would be like if we were unlocked from the start, this phone had a hell of a lot going for it. The whole bootloader thing dropped the value of this phone like a rock too, at least here on XDA. I don't even want to know what the value of my Vivid will be when I eventually switch to a new phone...
Theme looks good !
To be fair, I appreciate WC, Pirate and rest of devs working on the Sense themes. I've played w them all. Im just not a huge fan of sense. So I understand what bennec is asking for. I'm ready for cm9
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lsun06 said:
Theme looks good !
To be fair, I appreciate WC, Pirate and rest of devs working on the Sense themes. I've played w them all. Im just not a huge fan of sense. So I understand what bennec is asking for. I'm ready for cm9
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thanks for that...im currently using the pirate rom, but i have put ADW over the top and disabled sense using super tool although the AOSP dialer, contacts MMS settings etc are FAR FAR better than the crap in Sense.
Remove sense and it would be like removing a potato wedged in the exhaust if a Lamborgini!! VIVID would FLY!!
Ya see, I love sense, I hate plain android on 2.3 , ics is completely different for me for some reason
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Oh your welcome bennec
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ICS rocks...i have been running on my sensation for ages...it is such a shame to upgrade the handset then have to downgrade the OS...
i guess it is always 1 step forward 2 setp backl!!
I agree its not popular , in fact I do want something else instead but I did sign a two year with this
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There Are themers here. Just gotta ask me man. Lol. And! You did ask me in some thread, and then vanished! . Km down to work on a rom with you PG
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[Q] Opinions on Upgrading

Im going to be upgrading shortly, and NO Im not giving up my Hero. Ive noticed alot of us are going to the Evo3D, I was concidering doing the same or possibly the Evo 4g supersonic. What are your opinions and why ??? Just out of curiousity. Thanks in advance
Got my wife a 3vo for Xmas...the 3d feature is kind of gimmicky IMO.
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Have you seen the epic 4g touch? I was dead set on getting another HTC untill i saw it in person. I made the sales rep take back the evo 3d he had just brought out for me. Stalk the forums to the phones your considering, sometimes the community is enought to turn you away.
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The specs on the 3D are amazing. I do not regret it at all
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
I've been patiently waiting the arrival of the Galaxy Nexus... but my patience is wearing thin. My Hero is on its last leg, and quite frankly it is just too slow for my liking anymore. So Im really debating on whether to hold out for the GN or just getting the Epic 4g touch.
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KelevrA_8 said:
I've been patiently waiting the arrival of the Galaxy Nexus... but my patience is wearing thin. My Hero is on its last leg, and quite frankly it is just too slow for my liking anymore. So Im really debating on whether to hold out for the GN or just getting the Epic 4g touch.
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I'm in the same boat. Almost 3 years with my hero and I do love it, but I'm due for an upgrade and I'm not sure I can wait for the GN or GSIII. I might have to take the plunge soon. Epic 4g touch or Evo3D....something, but until then I'm flashing roms like there's no tomorrow
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The specs on the 3D are amazing. I do not regret it at all
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Thanks to all for the insigjts, Daatin, have you expierienced any programing gliches (ranbom reboots, freezes ) as ive rread in some of the Sprint reviews. Anb in response to the epic 4g, yes it is a pretty badass device man. Definately on the list of upgrade cantidates. Is rooting the epic fairly basic, just wondering. Lol suppose i could use the search window, :-b One other thing i was curious about, I read the specs on the 3d and the supersonic and other than price didnt really see a difference, is there really a difference ???
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Thanks to all for the insigjts, Daatin, have you expierienced any programing gliches (ranbom reboots, freezes ) as ive rread in some of the Sprint reviews. Anb in response to the epic 4g, yes it is a pretty badass device man. Definately on the list of upgrade cantidates. Is rooting the epic fairly basic, just wondering. Lol suppose i could use the search window, :-b
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I haven't had any problems at all. All freezes were of my causing. Same goes with reboots.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
Lol,you responded before i could edit my ladt post. Anyways, whats the difference between the 3d and the supersonic other than $$$
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Better screen,ram, and processor.
#Root-Hack\Mod*Always_
""Shooter on Deck""
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Better screen,ram, and processor.
#Root-Hack\Mod*Always_
""Shooter on Deck""
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thanks laie for your response, gave up all my thank you's today so i needed to write it out lol. anyhow in your opinion does that actually mean its a beter device or one of those "more bells and whistles more problems" devices. and yes sir your opinion does matter. Thanks man
Dive bombing in for a MUMP!! although this thread didn't need it
I have an upgrade available the 31st and I was hoping the galaxy nexus would be out by then but possibly not.. my sister got the Nexus S and the only problem I've seen with it is after a year or so of having it the battery life has probably cut in half if not more. My mom got the epic 4g touch and I didn't really like it. But no problems really that ive noticed. But I never got to mess around with rooting it/the programming side of it. I'm honestly thinking of going to iPhone because its not as fragmented as android. With android there's so many different phones, OS's, roms, etc. Then again that's what I love about it.. gaaaah the choices!! Either way good luck with whatever you choose
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I feel your guys' pain about the lack of options for HTC phones on Sprint. I ended up getting a HTC Amaze which is what the next EVO phone should have been but it never made it to Sprint. I was not impressed by gimmicky EVO 3D. The HTC Rezound is similar to the Amaze but again it's on Verizon.
Still kicking around the idea....I do like the 3vo, but the 3D is just too gimmicky for me...I think the Photon is out even though motorola is always a solid phone.
I would go for the Evo Design, but the processor lacks a dual core .....I really think I am leaning towards the SGSII...despite what people say about the plasticy feel, it is slim, it is light, the screen is huge and colorful--(and the blacks are black, not washed out), and from what I have seen for comparisons even though it has the "same" speed processor as the 3vo, it is just a touch faster. The price is just double what the others are....GRRR.
Now I have to pound it into my wifes head, because I think shes gonna get me a phone for my Bday....
I can overclock mine at 1.5ghz and it's just as fast if not faster than stock SGS2... just my 2 cents.
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I can overclock mine at 1.5ghz and it's just as fast if not faster than stock SGS2... just my 2 cents.
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And we genuinely appreciate your pennies.
BUT, if the SGS2 is OC'd and it is faster to begin with, imagine what it can do at 1.5ghz... I think the only thing I am not really diggin about the SGS2 is resolution..even though it is crisp and clear, the icons are bigger...
Who knows we will see what happens hell they might be sold out when it is time...I heard they are doing phones for new lines for a penny right now....makes me wanna walk away from them just to come back and get a discount....lol
That's when the shooter has another plus. It's resolution is higher which is why the icons are smaller but it also means better picture quality obviously with any higher resolution. I watch Top Gear on the netflix app and its perfect. Any game I've played works perfect and looks great due to the resolution.
On the processing front, honestly there's no need to even OC unless you want to just show off. but none of us end users need that much power to run what apps we like. Id be more inclined to want a higher processor if you could build from source on it. But most of us want better battery life. Which in turn you have to sacrifice some performance.
I love the SGS2. However they I believe still nerd to use odin to flash stuff. Odins been known to brick quite a few devices if not done properly. This weighed in my decision also along with I'm familiar with HTC. From a developing standpoint I was drawn because I know it already.
The 3D may be gimmicky... But it sure is fun Im excited to take more pictures now because of it. I can't wait for summer and snap shots of parades and ball games etc... Sure the SGS2 has an 8mp compared to the shooters 2 - 5mp which our Heros have a 5mp camera, but because of the resolution they turn out great. Won't be able to take advantage of that 8mp camera unless you remove the pictures and view them properly on a computer...
Now with all that being said I still want to buy an SGS2 outright because I just do. I mean its a great phone. But all that I mentioned pushed me towards the shooter for an everyday developing phone which is what the Hero was for me.
That's my .25 cents this time
I hope this helped boggle your mind a little more. Not saying you have to lean towards anything. It's your choice and all the phones out there are great. It's a matter of preference. Just stay away from the I-crap. I give Apple one little credit for implementing Unix in a way to a phone platform. But that's all ill give them.
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Will never buy an apple-- just picked up a new SGS2 for $0.01 on Amazon though....
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Go with what your budget can handle. Now that there is a possible fix for the 1. 5 hboot for the 3D, I'm encouraging my family to move towards it. Plus that phone has massive potential.

Htc one or blackberry z10

Popped into phones 4 u and saw both phones next to each other and now having 2 nd thoughts on the Htc one.
Asking in a forum for the HTC One will only give you answers in favour of HTC.
You're better off asking in the device suggestion thread
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KidCarter93 said:
Asking in a forum for the HTC One will only give you answers in favour of HTC.
You're better off asking in the device suggestion thread
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Not really, given that I would rather have a Nokia 3210... Then a BlackBerry given me. Trust me, after working for O2 in Pay Monthly for 2 years. There the only handset I would NEVER have. Just my imho lol
nk7600 said:
Not really, given that I would rather have a Nokia 3210... Then a BlackBerry given me. Trust me, after working for O2 in Pay Monthly for 2 years. There the only handset I would NEVER have. Just my imho lol
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I'd much rather have nothing than have a BB or an iPhone but at least if the OP asks in the linked thread, they may get a least a slight amount of unbiased answers.
The answer they're most likely to get, however, will undoubtedly be the One due to the fact it's Android.
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The HTC One has a better screen, speakers, build quality, battery, faster SoC and an IR port. There is also the added Android experience when it comes to apps, customization and ROMs.
The BB Z10 is a solid device. It's completely gesture-based, smooth, has a unified notifications/social hub, and a great on-screen keyboard. It also has a removable battery and micro-SD slot. Build quality is good, battery life isn't. BB10 looks a bit stale compared to Android's 'openness', and the app selection is bad...but you can sideload some Android apps.
I'd personally pick the HTC One. But if you're a Blackberry fan and don't mind the lack off apps and customizability, the Z10 is not a bad choice.
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The HTC One has a better screen, speakers, build quality, battery, faster SoC and an IR port. There is also the added Android experience when it comes to apps, customization and ROMs.
The BB Z10 is a solid device. It's completely gesture-based, smooth, has a unified notifications/social hub, and a great on-screen keyboard. It also has a removable battery and micro-SD slot. Build quality is good, battery life isn't. BB10 looks a bit stale compared to Android's 'openness', and the app selection is bad...but you can sideload some Android apps.
I'd personally pick the HTC One. But if you're a Blackberry fan and don't mind the lack off apps and customizability, the Z10 is not a bad choice.
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I've both the phone. With the last upgrade the battery life on BB10 is good. Both the phone have their good things and bad things. In any case the BB is more business oriented and has the Hub that is far away All other phone. It's so simple!!!! Just one gesture to take a look to everything happens in your world!
The One has other major characteristics like the camera, a lots of outstanding features, an obviously better construction quality. Choice is up to you. Both the phone are good phone and the BB OS is truly rock stable and usable... I repeat... I own both so both are good!
One.
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I would not recommend BB to 99% of people mainly due to poor app selection and a lackluster OS. I don't care what alternative you pick. Go buy an iPhone or GS4, I don't care, just not a BB.
I own both of these phones. The z10 will always come out of the bag when I am at work and i need to have quick access to emails. In my opinion, it also offers superior calendar app for business users. It is also quicker to navigate than the One due to its intuitive gestures. I also make less errors on z10 keyboard. BB10 has slightly superior battery life since upgrade. Plus, the z10 battery is removable and its memory is expandable. A plus for me again, was that it has a very functional pull down shortcut menu with options to adjust WiFi, sound etc on it.
However, the One has a much superior build, more apps and has more stable software. It has way better sound quality, screen resolution and camera. It is also faster and smoother than the z10.
Being android, it is so much more customizable than the Z10 too.
Neither phone has battery percentage indicator, which is not great. However, at least with the One, it is possible to get an app that puts the percentage in the notification bar....visible on all screens.
Your choice might depend on your use. I use both phones for different purposes. Z10 for work and the One for leisure.
USING: BB Z10, HTC ONE and GALAXY NOTE 2
Personally I'd say htc one. But go into a shop and try them both next to each other to see which you really prefer.
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Blackberry for me only stands out because of their harware keyboard phones(yeah I am a keyboard freak when it comes to phones). But with the all touch phone like the Z10? Get the HTC One
I think the blackberry is more durable while the Htc one will be prone to scratches. The blackberry also has a much better resale value on sell your mobile compare sites which tells me the Htc is not rated. However the Htc is more powerful bigger and better screen.
Riyal said:
Blackberry for me only stands out because of their harware keyboard phones(yeah I am a keyboard freak when it comes to phones). But with the all touch phone like the Z10? Get the HTC One
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The Z10 on screen keyboard is MUCH better than the HTC One's keyboard imo. I make much less errors - it has much better prediction. Maybe try to test both in your local store...typing at full speed. I reckon you'll be surprised.
USING: BB Z10, HTC ONE and GALAXY NOTE 2
I understand about the onscreen keyboards What I was talking about is the hardware keyboard that exists on old blackberry phones. So without them I wouldn't reconsider onscreen keyboard quality over everything
And yeah even up till now I'm still relying on hardware keyboard phones. Still using the Mytouch 4g slide. And just now I tried using onscreen keyboards and I suck! Haha 2 letters/sec FTW!
whmcal said:
The Z10 on screen keyboard is MUCH better than the HTC One's keyboard imo. I make much less errors - it has much better prediction. Maybe try to test both in your local store...typing at full speed. I reckon you'll be surprised.
USING: BB Z10, HTC ONE and GALAXY NOTE 2
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AW: Htc one or blackberry z10
Riyal said:
I understand about the onscreen keyboards What I was talking about is the hardware keyboard that exists on old blackberry phones. So without them I wouldn't reconsider onscreen keyboard quality over everything
And yeah even up till now I'm still relying on hardware keyboard phones. Still using the Mytouch 4g slide. And just now I tried using onscreen keyboards and I suck! Haha 2 letters/sec FTW!
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So try swype or SwiftKey Flow get used to it a few days and you will be faster than ever before
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Sashtheflash said:
So try swype or SwiftKey Flow get used to it a few days and you will be faster than ever before
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Oh yessss. Swype make the difference. Anyhow I think the best in BB is the Hub. Generally is impossible stating one phone is better than another. It depends on the use. I like the One, but olso I like my z10.
I have been using the Z10 for about a week now and I got to say... I am impressed.
There aren't as many apps out for it as there are for iOS and android but really, how many apps were available when android or IOS was first released?
I used to own a blackberry and left it for android. After using the Z10 I feel it's time to switch back.
Don't hate the device until you actually try it out.
I personally judge a device on first, how it feels in my hand. I'm not going to carry a phone around with me if it just feels uncomfortable to hold. The HTC One S was at the top of that list for me. It has now been dethroned. The Z10 has a feel to it that's hard to explain it just feels right.
Secondly for me is integration of my various email accounts and social networking clients. Blackberry 10 has an integration that surpasses anything you have ever seen in android. The way it handles email, texts, social media, and messengers cannot be touched. I'm at a loss for words. It can't be beat, period.
The interface on the Z10 is easy for someone coming from android, iOS or windows phone to understand. There is a small learning curve. You're not going to pick it up instantly and understand how to use it for the first time, but it's easy to learn.
The rest of it is basically stuff you already know. innovative keyboard, mediocre app world, OK camera, etc.
I'm not telling you to buy the device over the HTC One. I have no experience with that device and how it operates.
I think i'd rather cut off a toe than have a blackberry, really bad phones, although the z10 has to be the best they have to offer, just put it next to the One and you'll make up your own mind.
In my line of work i use every single device on the market (available in britain anyway) and like i said it's the best they have to offer but i feel that it's still not bringing a lot to the table, not when you compare it to the higher tier android handsets.
alfa71omega said:
Oh yessss. Swype make the difference. Anyhow I think the best in BB is the Hub. Generally is impossible stating one phone is better than another. It depends on the use. I like the One, but olso I like my z10.
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I agree. If you need to own two phones, these might be best of the bunch at the moment... with The One leading for build and (android) apps Vs. BBZ10 winning for smooth interface, integration, comfort in hand, calendar and on-screen keyboard prediction
If you have to choose one, get whichever suits your personal needs best. Try em both out in store perhaps
Currently interchangeably using HTC One, BBZ10 and Note 2
Phillmitchell said:
Popped into phones 4 u and saw both phones next to each other and now having 2 nd thoughts on the Htc one.
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If you really think this a question, I have no answer for you.
This is an Android vs BB10 question, not a phone vs phone question.

The galaxy s4 from the eyes of HTC one user

I just want to start off saying I've had the HTC one since it first launched on sprint and have always loved the phone I usually only run stock aosp based roms on every phone I get however with the ONE I left sense 5 on there for the phones first half of its life before eventually switching to cm10.2 then PAC 4.3 I loved the phone but for some reason I really wanted to c what a bigger screen would b like especially coming from the galaxy nexus and Optimus g with similar size screens so I made the jump I traded my baby for a white gs4
The gs4 screen is amazing! I've only ran 4.3 aosp on it and never plan to have nasty touch wiz on my phone at all everything hardware wise I feel is better than the one the phone feels snappier the screen is obviously larger I've had no complaints the battery life is definitely much better almost everything hardware wise is much better
Downfalls the outside of the phone the plastic and the look overall is less attractive then the beautiful HTC one but to be honest it's worth making the switch in my honest opinion if your looking for more hardware and less looks and if ur like me and just switch phone for few months.. Not to mention it's just a simple even swap from someone else looking for a one
Have fun with your samscum 4 get a crapcphone 5s
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Well, with Sense 5 vs TW... I currently have both and Sense 5 and the One feels smoother overall but haven't used the buggy buggy AOSP ROMs because I personally want stability. Now, the ONLY thing better on the S4 than on the One is easily the fact that I keep LTE signal consistently on the S4 versus lose it on the One.
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Good info. I'm thinking about switching to an S4. I get bored with my phones after a few months
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Can't believe Samsung is still paying people to badmouth HTC
J/K but seriously another One vs S4 thread
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gutrrob said:
Can't believe Samsung is still paying people to badmouth HTC
J/K but seriously another One vs S4 thread
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Yea.....lol htc one is awsome. I dont need to run custom roms sendse 5 is great and TW is the ugliest looking thing besides IOS7
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bro i had the galaxy s4 since it dropped.. so i kno the phone very well.. and i have had this phone for over a month.. the ONLY thing that the s4 has over the one is the pics are a lil more crisp.. and the screen is bigger.. that is all.. trust me.. the one is way smoother just as fast.. and i get great bettery life with my one just like the s4.. touch wiz is ok but sense 5 kills it hands down.. all them stupid things like moving the screen with your eyes is dumb i had the s4 since it dropped and i never used any of that crap.. im not a htc fanboy either i like samsung and htc but the htc one is deff a better phone then the s4.. i kno everyone is diff.. my first smartphone was the og evo 4g.. then evo 3d.. then evo 4g lte.. then i went to sansung got the S3.. then got the S4.. HTC killed it with this phone:good:
Don't bring that sg4 thrash in our house, the HTC one rains supreme hands downs!!
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Yerv Melkonian said:
I just want to start off saying I've had the HTC one since it first launched on sprint and have always loved the phone I usually only run stock aosp based roms on every phone I get however with the ONE I left sense 5 on there for the phones first half of its life before eventually switching to cm10.2 then PAC 4.3 I loved the phone but for some reason I really wanted to c what a bigger screen would b like especially coming from the galaxy nexus and Optimus g with similar size screens so I made the jump I traded my baby for a white gs4
The gs4 screen is amazing! I've only ran 4.3 aosp on it and never plan to have nasty touch wiz on my phone at all everything hardware wise I feel is better than the one the phone feels snappier the screen is obviously larger I've had no complaints the battery life is definitely much better almost everything hardware wise is much better
Downfalls the outside of the phone the plastic and the look overall is less attractive then the beautiful HTC one but to be honest it's worth making the switch in my honest opinion if your looking for more hardware and less looks and if ur like me and just switch phone for few months.. Not to mention it's just a simple even swap from someone else looking for a one
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Man... some third grade grammar lessons could seriously help you a TON!
I doubt the S4 is any 'snappier' since the hardware is nearly the exact same, but everyone has their own opinion. Obviously, you like the S4 more than the One, but I'd honestly be more interested in getting an iPhone 5S over a Galaxy S4. The S4 is just marketed more, but the One is the better phone in my opinion. There would be no reason for me to downgrade to a lesser Android device.
Yes the same friggen chipset... Are you seriously thinking that since the GS4 is stock at 1.9 that it's better? My ONE benches higher than the GS4 any day! It's like .3 inches bigger... Woo I've got more pixels.. I hate that over saturated display.
People like you that have a hard-on for poopsung are probably getting paid to convert people over. Refrain from returning here if you're going to insist that people should switch. People like what they like and leave it at that.
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You know what would be cool? Respecting other people's opinions.
Or something.
sshede said:
You know what would be cool? Respecting other people's opinions.
Or something.
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And obviously people are voicing their opinions as well.
Or something.
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You know what would be cool? Respecting other people's opinions.
Or something.
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You know what would be cooler? Keep the S4 discussion in the S4 forum where people actually care about it and the HTC One discussion in its respective forum.
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ITT: Samsung hate
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You know what would be cool? Respecting other people's opinions.
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This.
Or if you cannot respond in a thoughtful way without deliberately trying to provoke aggression, then just don't reply at all.
I hope all of you reacting childishly realize that you're just making fools of yourselves on the internet.
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