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Broke Tilt in half

So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?

wshader said:
So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN

Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.

wshader said:
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.

Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)

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Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.

Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.

Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.

@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.

Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize

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Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S

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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.

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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S

Where to buy replacement motherboard for kaiser

Yup, just like the title says.
And before anyone yells at me, YES i did the search button but nothing...
I checked ebay, and for some reason no one has a motherboard... and I don't want to risk it with buying one with a cracked screen that might have a messed motherboard.
HTC wants to charge me $352.26 for a new motherboard AND lcd... when only the motherboard wasn't working (last i checked, the lcd was working... unless THEY did something at the repair)

I've seen this before in another thread. I believe the consensus was that there was no place to buy them except risking eBay.

Damn...
So how much do you think HTC would charge to repair the motherboard separately from the LCD ?

Repair or replace N1? Need help concerning hardware details.

Hey guys,
I've been struggling with my N1 power button for a while now until in August it finally failed and my device wouldn't turn on anymore.
Since I bought my phone in Germany I hesitated to send it in. Not HTC is responsible for the warranty, but the seller himself. Anyway, I mailed them, sent it in, but they denied to repair it. They said some bull***t about me braking the camera. So I talked to legal protection insurance and they asked me whether I'd prefere to sue the trader or if I want to get 220 Euro back from them instead (because obviously suing would be much more cost intensiv for the insurance then paying 220 Euro). So I decided to take the money and either buy a new phone or try to fix the power button myself. And that's what I did.
I dissembled the phone and tried to solder the broken connections following this (http://youtu.be/k74D4dGGf4U) awesome guide myself. I do not have a lot of experience with stuff like this but I thought since I had already gotten the money "back" and the phone was not working I could at least try.
I did try and I did break the rest of the power button. So know I am not sure what to do. I see two options and very much would like other users comments on what I should do.
Try to sell the other components (screen, battery, logic board) and buy a new phone.
Replace the entire board with the camera, the led and the power button.
Ad 1.) Where would you sell the components? Ebay? Any other specific website?
And also, can you suggest phones to consider. I haven't followed the "android market" for a couple of months since it was not clear what would happen to my N1. I could buy a new N1 for about 210 Euro. Or a Nexus S for about 200. Are there any new phones that can compete with the nexus one in terms of openness, processing power, battery life & built quality? Or is the N1 still the best deal (especially for that price, I don't want to spend much more then the 220 Euro, I just got back).
Ad 2.) I've looked online, there are plenty of sources to replace the board with the flex cable ribbon. They range from 17 to about 70 Dollar. The difference seems to be that the ones are without camera, while the others come with a new camera.
Since my camera was working just fine I was wondering if it's possible to use my camera on another motherboard (I think that's the adequate name of the board I am talking about, right?). I couldn't find any reports online, but there is a spare part, which indicates, that it is very possible. Has anyone tried to replace a camera? Did it work? Is there a tutorial online?
Over all, I would very much prefere the second option. I have used my N1 only for roughly a year. I got the N1 dock. And over all, it would only cost about 30 bucks and a couple of hours. Also I would not have to buy a new phone and produce unnecessary technical waste.
So I'm very much looking forward to all your comments and help. For me that's a huge project. I haven't done hardware "hacking" before, so I will need all the help I can get.
Cheers, Armin

repair it.
Replacing the flex cable is not extremely difficult (medium diff.), and the chinese sellers in ebay will often bundle the tools required to open the N1's case.
By the way, the flex cable is not the mainboard, it's the cable that connects different modules (camera, led) and buttons (volume, power) to the mainboard, replace it, plug your camera and led modules to the new flex cable, make sure all connections are tight and your N1 will be as good as new!
I just repaired my N1, and I cannot tell you how awesome it felt when this little beast came back to life after months!

hey trschober,
thanx a lot for your reply. could you elaborate on how to switch the camera? it seems like it's only held in place by the bent metal. but i don't want to "force it out" since i dont want to break the camera (expensive).
does it come off easily?
also i didn't even know i could take off the led module. but now that i had a look at it it seems like i can just "pop off" the white rectangle.
awesome, i'm really excited right now!
well, i'll just order the part. we'll see how it goes.

I've never had to replace the camera, but from ifixit's pictures it is held in place by some sort of metal clip. There must be a place that you can push to get the camera module out without forcing it.
I can open my N1 on monday to check the proper way to unmount the camera module, but I doubt that you have to force it out, these electronic things don't work that way.
Yes, the led module just pops off, just be careful no to scratch the led itself, or the light will get blueish.
The hardest part of replacing the flex cable is popping off the bottom part of your N1, just use the proper _plastic_ tools to open it, or you will scratch the case. once you disconnect the connectors, the flex cable just slides upwards and out.

[Q] Should I buy a broken One m7

I saw an ad for a broken One m7 and the guy says he dropped it and the screen is dead, so I was thinking I could replace the screen and make a buck. but before I do I wanted to ask a question... He says when he starts the phone some lights go on and the screen stays black, on my m7 it vibrates and starts up without any lights. could this be a sign that there is more damage than just the screen and digitizer?
Thanks
FraserCow

frasercow said:
I saw an ad for a broken One m7 and the guy says he dropped it and the screen is dead, so I was thinking I could replace the screen and make a buck. but before I do I wanted to ask a question... He says when he starts the phone some lights go on and the screen stays black, on my m7 it vibrates and starts up without any lights. could this be a sign that there is more damage than just the screen and digitizer?
Thanks
FraserCow
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Honestly, if you are asking questions like this you should not buy a broken phone. Only buy if you are sure you can repair it and know what is damaged exactly.
The M7 can be found for less than 250$ New on ebay btw. not sure you'll make any profit after paying for the phone, the replacement parts and the time to fix it. There are also some risks when opening that phone, many member here sucessfully repaired the M7 themselves and other damaged the phone when opening it, even if they did it very delicately.
Imo doesn't worth it.
But still worth to buy one for 250$ if you want to have one for yourself.

alray said:
Honestly, if you are asking questions like this you should not buy a broken phone. Only buy if you are sure you can repair it and know what is damaged exactly.
The M7 can be found for less than 250$ New on ebay btw. not sure you'll make any profit after paying for the phone, the replacement parts and the time to fix it. There are also some risks when opening that phone, many member here sucessfully repaired the M7 themselves and other damaged the phone when opening it, even if they did it very delicately.
Imo doesn't worth it.
But still worth to buy one for 250$ if you want to have one for yourself.
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If I buy it it'll be for $60, that's why it's so tempting. but I will definitely put a lot of thought into it before I jump on it.

Remember if you are going to repair it properly, you'd probably want to buy a screen assembly + housing. Its almost impossible not to damage the phone when you open it.

frasercow said:
If I buy it it'll be for $60, that's why it's so tempting. but I will definitely put a lot of thought into it before I jump on it.
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irvs said:
Remember if you are going to repair it properly, you'd probably want to buy a screen assembly + housing. Its almost impossible not to damage the phone when you open it.
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60$ for a broken phone + 50$ for a screen assy + 15$ for a new housing (almost always damaged when opening like said) = 125$ + parts shipping, So lets say 150$ total and you are still not 100% sure it will work and won't have other issue like the infamous bad (purple) camera (25$)" Phone is used and will probably need a new battery, another 15-20$.
So at least 150$ + your time and still not sure it will work (might not be a broken screen, maybe a broken mother board), you might damage other parts when attempting to repair like the tiny flex cables. add an extra 75$ and you can get a brand new and carrier unlocked M7.

I'm glad I asked before going a head with it, thanks guys.

Xperia Z1 still good - worth repairing?

Hi! I have had my device more than two years now so I'm not super sad, but yesterday when I took it out of my pocket it had some cracks in the screen, not very visible cracks, but apparently enough to destroy the touchscreen functionallity. I think I know what caused the cracks and it was my own fault but that's beside the point.
It will cost me $150 to get the screen repaired, and I'm wondering if it's worth it for that cost? I have looked at new phones and it seems hard to find anything that beats the Z1 in terms of hardware for 150 USD, or even 250, or even 350..
So maybe it's worth getting it repaired. What do you think? Thanks.

how about the c5 ultra or m5 aqua?

hasn4179 said:
how about the c5 ultra or m5 aqua?
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Both of those phones seems to not be available like anywhere here in Sweden where I live. And 6" screen is too big for me. I didn't look up the picing of those phones, but I assume that they cost way over 150 USD.
Maybe it's worth sending it in for repair, otherwise it's a bit sad to throw away it when it's hardware is fully working, but just that I can't use it because of the broken touch. There are some downsides though, that they can't guarantee that it willl remain water-proof, and that the Z1 probably isn't going to get Android 6.
I have compared the hardware specs of Xperia Z1 against some other phones and it seems to be holding up pretty well, despite the fact that it's a 3 year old phone, or am I wrong?

If you don't want to spend money on a new phone then it would be worth having the screen replaced.
While you're at it, I'd also replace the battery with a quality replacement too, and shouldn't cost much more because that would have to come out anyway to get to the screen.
I've just replaced the battery on my Z1 because it wasn't holding charge anymore.
The Z1 is a good phone. I wouldn't bin it because of a broken screen.

MickieH said:
The Z1 is a good phone. I wouldn't bin it because of a broken screen.
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Thanks for your answer and thanks for the advice of replacing the battery at the same time. Then it will be like brand new again
Ok, the total cost for Screen replacement + Battery replacement would be 218 USD, perhaps I'll get a discount because I'm already replacing the screen, but if not, 218 USD is not too bad.
I can't find any phone that has faster CPU, more ram, and overall better specs for that cost so.. yeah

1) Even now a new z1 will not cost any less than 350$.
2) You can never get a decent phone under or near 150$
Some midrangers can be bought in 250-350$. But don't compare them with recently demoted former flagship.
3) The only hope of getting a good phone with cheapest rates is with chinese oems

hasn4179 said:
1) Even now a new z1 will not cost any less than 350$.
2) You can never get a decent phone under or near 150$
Some midrangers can be bought in 250-350$. But don't compare them with recently demoted former flagship.
3) The only hope of getting a good phone with cheapest rates is with chinese oems
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks for your answers!

Guy's, question my Sony Xperia Z1 back camera is just showing black
screen when trying to take a photo… I think the people who fixed my screen damaged my camera or I damaged the sensor….
Since I have a AT&T LG G3, do u think I should replace the Z1 camera or unlock the LG G3 for T-mobile… Screen replacement is $100 I've paid, a camera replacement is $70 is it worth it…
Thinking That I can just use the $70 to unlock my AT&T LG G3 instead…

simonwela said:
Hi! I have had my device more than two years now so I'm not super sad, but yesterday when I took it out of my pocket it had some cracks in the screen, not very visible cracks, but apparently enough to destroy the touchscreen functionallity. I think I know what caused the cracks and it was my own fault but that's beside the point.
It will cost me $150 to get the screen repaired, and I'm wondering if it's worth it for that cost? I have looked at new phones and it seems hard to find anything that beats the Z1 in terms of hardware for 150 USD, or even 250, or even 350..
So maybe it's worth getting it repaired. What do you think? Thanks.
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You can always buy a screen from eBay, just for 50$, not a big deal. I have changed it myself. good experience!

saddler2kx said:
Guy's, question my Sony Xperia Z1 back camera is just showing black
screen when trying to take a photo… I think the people who fixed my screen damaged my camera or I damaged the sensor….
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You might want to complain the guy who fixed your screen or by making him check if your camera is connected to the mainboard? It's not easy to damage the camera I guess, but the thing is that you don't even need to touch the camera sensor to repair the screen...
To OP, I think 150$ is too much, sadly :/
By the way, mine broke too ! I will be getting this probably: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LCD-Display-...630061?hash=item1e97e8b86d:g:TycAAOSwDNdVn3z3
Sorry for a canadian link

A little update: Today I bought a black Xperia Z5 Compact for €460
Thanks everyone that has responded in this thread.