Either i am going mad since ICS leak has come out or the s-pen can highlight things on the sceen with out touching it?
I tried it out on this forum and if you hover over a thread with the tip of the s-pen about 1-2mm off it will highlight the thread.
i am 99% sure it isnt makeing conact, is there a function or purpose for this?
No idea but i noticed that also on the ics rom.
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I am on the same boat. Hope the final ICS releases soon.
I dont know if this affects all phones/pens/firmwares but if I use diceplayer and hover the pen tip at 2-3mm away from the screen it repeatedly registers a screen tap.
same here mine is running 2.3.6
I've tried this before (on gingerbread) and it keeps the device awake in S-memo (maybe outside of it as well, haven't tried it.). But the reason is because the pen is by Wacom and if you've used a wacom digitizer before on a pc you would notice that you can move the pointer around the screen without touching the screen.
The pen is powered wirelessly by a substrate (I believe above the screen), and transmits its location. Now obviously they didn't enable the pointer to show on Android, but it seems like it is being registered as coming into the screen's activation range.
I had same problem before.i change the new from samsung till now no problem.
all the wacom pens actually work like this, the only difference there is that you can't only "move the mouse" so any input registers as a click.
it's probably not fixable outside of a driver update from samsung :x
This is a very useful feature: it's a visual display of what you're pointing at while hovering over the screen, no actual input is given...
If you hold the pen over a link in a browser, you can see the link getting highlighted before you select it...
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Nope, i can't get it to do it on mine. LA6.
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Same here
No, it won't work on La6 - I've only seen it using icecream sandwich
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curios, alls ICS leaks dont support S-Pen yet.
And that issue doing inputs without touching the screen is due to a faulty S-Pen.
Replace it, its a warranty issue.
The pen have to be, not only touch sensitive, but pressure sensitive too.
If you press more down, the line you draw got thicker.
im on ics chinese leak but no problem with s pen
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ziko said:
curios, alls ICS leaks dont support S-Pen yet.
And that issue doing inputs without touching the screen is due to a faulty S-Pen.
Replace it, its a warranty issue.
The pen have to be, not only touch sensitive, but pressure sensitive too.
If you press more down, the line you draw got thicker.
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My s-pen seems to work fine i have done some drawing and the pressure sensitive feature works?
How would i go about claiming for the s-pen on warrenty if im running ics, would the want the phone back?
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Does anybody else find the S.pen of the SGN really bad??.. when it comes to drawing some stuff..? Any remedy for that?
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i don't draw but i do annotate quite a lot, and it feels like the calibration is a bit off. what in particular about it is your concern?
Like, the place where i point the pen and the place where it writes is not the same,the location where it writes is a little bit to the upper left( not precise)... and its also has a latency after writing...
Its not a very big problem for me just a little critic...
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crz2uf said:
Does anybody else find the S.pen of the SGN really bad??.. when it comes to drawing some stuff..? Any remedy for that?
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I've used five s-pens so far, and two of them were significantly worse than the other three. Good news is that the problem is most likely with the pen itself and not with the Note!
Try getting a different pen (e.g. there is an official Samsung holder that comes with another pen). For the offset problem, try to switch from right to left to right... several times --- sometimes that helps to make the offset more reasonable. Also experiment with the angle of the Note as you write, often that makes a difference too.
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The reason why it seems a bit of is done on purpose.
You notice this when you change your writing hand in the settings.
When it's set to your right hand, the drawing is slightly left of your pen. With the left hand it's the other way around.
This is done so you can see what you are drawing/writing and your hand is not in the way.
I know it sucks, but Samsung made it this way.
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The reason why it seems a bit of is done on purpose.
You notice this when you change your writing hand in the settings.
When it's set to your right hand, the drawing is slightly left of your pen. With the left hand it's the other way around.
This is done so you can see what you are drawing/writing and your hand is not in the way.
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This is true, but some pens have larger offset than the others. I think some of them have sensitive elements inside aligned better. And actually this works rather nicely if the offset is reasonable, at least for me. Takes a bit of practice, but feels quite natural after a while... if you think about it, some offset is appropriate, since there are three surfaces at different depths: the writing surface, the "displaying" surface, and the actual surface which is sensitive to the pen's movements (this one is quite deep, it's behind the screen, not in front of it)...
Try different pens before giving up
Yeah the calibration is not exact to the point. When I'm writing words normally I'm not really affected, only when it comes to drawing in slow motions, the placement is off and it's frustrating for drawing little details.
However, I managed to dig out an old stylus which came with my ancient fujitsu tablet PC and it's calibrated perfectly.
I've noticed that the angle to which I hold the s-pen to the surface makes a difference in percieved accuracy.
This app has worked for me:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
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This app has worked for me:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
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... Just note that it requires root
It will run without root, kinda, but you'll be getting something like this on the unlock:
"ERROR: IOException! No ROOT permissions?"
iamastone said:
However, I managed to dig out an old stylus which came with my ancient fujitsu tablet PC and it's calibrated perfectly.
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With the Fujitsu pen, does it have calibration issues or extra lines if you write on it upside down, like if you were lying on your back? My biggest pet peeve with this phone is that I can only use the pen if I'm sitting upright and holding the pen just so, otherwise calibration is way off and a lot of unintended lines appear.
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I've noticed that the angle to which I hold the s-pen to the surface makes a difference in percieved accuracy.
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I've noticed this too. It's most apparent to me when I set my phone on a table, holding the pen by it's very end. Touching the screen with the point and changing the angle of the pen relative to the screen--without moving the tip of the pen;s position at all--you can see the cursor move with the angle of the pen, even though the tip stays in one place.
The best way to fix this, in my mind, is for Wacom to do on this phone what they do for a lot of their tablets--have a little dot show up on the screen when you hover your pen, so you know where you'll be drawing.
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With the Fujitsu pen, does it have calibration issues or extra lines if you write on it upside down, like if you were lying on your back? My biggest pet peeve with this phone is that I can only use the pen if I'm sitting upright and holding the pen just so, otherwise calibration is way off and a lot of unintended lines appear.
I've noticed this too. It's most apparent to me when I set my phone on a table, holding the pen by it's very end. Touching the screen with the point and changing the angle of the pen relative to the screen--without moving the tip of the pen;s position at all--you can see the cursor move with the angle of the pen, even though the tip stays in one place.
The best way to fix this, in my mind, is for Wacom to do on this phone what they do for a lot of their tablets--have a little dot show up on the screen when you hover your pen, so you know where you'll be drawing.
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This is a damn good idea right here. Someone should forward this to Samsung before they roll out the ICS update.
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This is a damn good idea right here. Someone should forward this to Samsung before they roll out the ICS update.
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I believe this is already in ICS.
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Well you guys said it all... drawing details,drawing slowly, lots of unwanted lines appear...etc...
I see, so its most likely caused by the pen rather than the note itself... ill give the app(touchscreentune) a try..thanks.
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Hello all
I am experiencing some really strange behaviour from my S-Pen. I cannot tell if it's ROM related, Kernel related, or Screen protector related.
Basically what happens is the screen registers an S-Pen touch, when the S-pen is NOT touching the screen. I seems like there is this hot spot about 5mm above the screen where if the pen hovers in this space, the phone thinks I'm actually touching with the pen.
This is obviously very annoying, because if I use the pen, and move around the screen without touching, the phone thinks I'm dragging my pen across the screen
Some info about my phone:
GT-N7000
Paranoid Android ROM 2.1
HydraKernel 4.2
A cheap clear screen protector (CYGNET brand)
Almost all these things happened at the same time, so I cannot tell who is the culprit.
Anyone else experiencing similar behaviour?
This is a common behaviour when you use your phone while lying down.
It registers the touch in about 3 mm gap most of the times.
This is not linked to any specific kernel or Rom.
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The spen puts out a magnetic field that's picked up as touch on the screen, so above poster is correct, it's normal behaviour. If you're concerned that it's off placement, there's a calibration app in the Play Store, quite expensive I think, but effective as there are no samsung alternatives...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vital
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Thanks for the reply
It happens regardless of me lying down or sitting up. I can't remember that it was like this when I got the phone. If its normal, it's really bad from samsung, as the spen is useless to me.
As I move the tip toward the screen, about 3-5mm away a touch is briefly registered. Then nothing untill the tip makes contact with the screen where another touch is recognized. The "floating" touch registers almost no pressure, however.
The effect of this is when I write with the pen, it looks like I attempted cursive writing with a pen that's semi dried up.
It also makes playing abgry birds impossible with the spen, as now the moment I release the pen to fire a bird, a second touch is regognized when the pen hovers in that hot zone, which will cause all the special birds to perform their special acts way premature.
This can'nt be normal, can it?
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hi only had me note about a week got it off internet, just noticed the s-pen doesn't work properly it works at the bottom ov the screen if i push on the button very hard i was told to recalibrate it by removing the button cover and using a small screw driver to adjust the sensitivity of the pen but mine has no screw /, i went to my local phone shop to try my pen on another note and it works
has anybody got any ideas
Don't understand what exactly you facing? Works on the lower screen but not above?
Do you have any cover with magnetic clips on it? Also try *#0*# and check the spen test.
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sorry when i say the bottom i mean right at the bottom bout a quarter of an inch but that's only a few times not all of the time
plus i dont understand why theres no screw under the button cover
Currently running 2.0.4 rooted (and loving it). I've come to notice that the touchscreen is rather finicky. If you press down too hard it activates touch and when scrolling through things in Rom ToolBox it will sometimes activate or select things that I didn't want to. I'm sure this is a hardware thing not a software thing. I think it's because the touch screen is so close to the surface, also using styluses has proven useless too since the screen is oddly grippy. So I was wondering if you guys out there have come up with a nice work around or if you know that maybe 2.0.5 would fix this issue. I just couldn't find root methods for it that worked so hence why I chose to stick with 2.0.4.
Thanks in advance.
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Currently running 2.0.4 rooted (and loving it). I've come to notice that the touchscreen is rather finicky. If you press down too hard it activates touch and when scrolling through things in Rom ToolBox it will sometimes activate or select things that I didn't want to. I'm sure this is a hardware thing not a software thing. I think it's because the touch screen is so close to the surface, also using styluses has proven useless too since the screen is oddly grippy. So I was wondering if you guys out there have come up with a nice work around or if you know that maybe 2.0.5 would fix this issue. I just couldn't find root methods for it that worked so hence why I chose to stick with 2.0.4.
Thanks in advance.
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You need to keep the fingerprints cleaned off.
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leapinlar said:
You need to keep the fingerprints cleaned off.
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yeah I caved in and bought a screen protector for it (matte).
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You need to keep the fingerprints cleaned off.
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Why is it that finger prints cause a problem with a capacitive screen?
codya321 said:
Why is it that finger prints cause a problem with a capacitive screen?
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Fingerprints don't have capacitance? I'm not really sure why it makes a difference, but it does.
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codya321 said:
Why is it that finger prints cause a problem with a capacitive screen?
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the only conclusion I can draw is thanks to its new lamination technique. This forces the digitizer closer to the surface and that much more finicky. The added benefit is that I've notice that the amount of surface area needed to register a touch is rather small, about 2.5 mm^2, I've tested with some objects around my house. So if there was a way to adjust the screen sensitivity that would be great, also the screen is too grippy so it causes my finger to stutter, the matte screen helps with the finger and retarding the sensitivity but its still a little too sensitive.
Hello,
I need some help from the xda community.
Just recently bought S21 Ultra, but I have an issue while using S pen with any application that has push sensitivity recognition just in one spot.
For example 'Infinite painter' or 'art flow' with sensitivity brush like 6B pencil.
I'm not completely sure that it is hardware (display) issue of this phone or all S21 Ultra have this issue.
I want to ask someone to try it either to confirm or deny. If it is the issue of this particular phone, I still have some time to change the device.
Thanks for your help!
Are you using a case or something with a magnetic lock system by any chance?
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Are you using a case or something with a magnetic lock system by any chance?
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Forgot to mention. No, no case, nothing magnetic, no screen protector. The photo was taken while the phone was on my lap.
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Forgot to mention. No, no case, nothing magnetic, no screen protector. The photo was taken while the phone was on my lap.
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Okay well in that case I would say a faulty digitizer, I guess you should get it replaced ( under warranty )
I've seen many users having a similar issue which was triggered by a magnetic case thats why I asked about it ;-)
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Okay well in that case I would say a faulty digitizer, I guess you should get it replaced ( under warranty )
I've seen many users having a similar issue which was triggered by a magnetic case thats why I asked about it ;-)
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yeah, I've googled this issue, I know about magnets. But it looks like there is something underneath the screen that produces some magnetic interference. And it works with very big pressure... I was just wondering if everybody has this issue and just don't care\know, or it is just me. That's why I've asked somebody to test it.
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yeah, I've googled this issue, I know about magnets. But it looks like there is something underneath the screen that produces some magnetic interference. And it works with very big pressure... I was just wondering if everybody has this issue and just don't care\know, or it is just me. That's why I've asked somebody to test it.
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Well mine works flawless and I would contact Samsung to get it fixed if I would have the issue
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Well mine works flawless and I would contact Samsung to get it fixed if I would have the issue
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So, as I understand - you did try S-pen with any application that support sensitivity recognition in this area and it works? The general notepad or any other application that is just for writing works in this area of the screen. The problem is only with push-level recognition.
How do I enable the pressure sensitivity?
Here is what I achieved on my S21 Ultra (snapdragon, USA t-mobile variant) using an older s-pen taken from an older note. But when I used different pressure, the Infinite Painter app acted like the pen was either on or off, but no gradients in between. Like I dragged the pen across the screen and pushed harder and softer, but the result was just no ink when too soft, and pure black when hard enough or harder. Nothing in between. Is this because my s-pen is too old, or did I need to turn on a setting in the phone or the app? I selected the 6B pencil in the app.
KingFatty said:
How do I enable the pressure sensitivity?
Here is what I achieved on my S21 Ultra (snapdragon, USA t-mobile variant) using an older s-pen taken from an older note. But when I used different pressure, the Infinite Painter app acted like the pen was either on or off, but no gradients in between. Like I dragged the pen across the screen and pushed harder and softer, but the result was just no ink when too soft, and pure black when hard enough or harder. Nothing in between. Is this because my s-pen is too old, or did I need to turn on a setting in the phone or the app? I selected the 6B pencil in the app.
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Thank you very much! yeah, I didn't realize this. I bought S-pen with the phone and I guess it's a different one from old Note S-Pen
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Hello,
I need some help from the xda community.
Just recently bought S21 Ultra, but I have an issue while using S pen with any application that has push sensitivity recognition just in one spot.
For example 'Infinite painter' or 'art flow' with sensitivity brush like 6B pencil.
I'm not completely sure that it is hardware (display) issue of this phone or all S21 Ultra have this issue.
I want to ask someone to try it either to confirm or deny. If it is the issue of this particular phone, I still have some time to change the device.
Thanks for your help!
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I don't have infinite painter or any other painting app, but I tried my S pen on Samsung notes and there doesn't seem to be any irregular spots on the screen. Both tracing and pressure work on all parts of the screen as far as I can tell. I used my Tab S7's included S-Pen.
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I don't have infinite painter or any other painting app, but I tried my S pen on Samsung notes and there doesn't seem to be any irregular spots on the screen. Both tracing and pressure work on all parts of the screen as far as I can tell. I used my Tab S7's included S-Pen.
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Thank you! Now I'm wondering if it is S-pen issue. Just noticed that if I hold the pen almost completely 90 degree to the screen, it just works fine on this spot.