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Stock ICS leak vs CM9 vs AOKP

Just wanting to know what you all think. Not too much discussion going on here about them. I've used them all, good experiences. Pro, cons, whatever. I personally like the stock .230 leak. I find the smart actions very nice. Also like the app drawer with the different groups.
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nkmassie said:
Just wanting to know what you all think. Not too much discussion going on here about them. I've used them all, good experiences. Pro, cons, whatever. I personally like the stock .230 leak. I find the smart actions very nice. Also like the app drawer with the different groups.
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Personally, I like the 230 update... plan on updating to 232 soon, but holding off because every time I flash, another one comes out.
I'm not one for flashing nightly roms, but I've been itching to try CM9

Yeah I am a little hesitant about flashing .232. But I think it's good news that these leaks keep showing up.
I used the CM9 from the .2233 leak and wasn't overly impressed. I feel AOKP has more options. But these Moto leaks are just so nice in my taste.
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I prefer AOKP but there are still some issues with it such as static in the Bluetooth. I have 2 phones on me all day at work and the use of a headset is a must. I am on stock .232 with Apex, init.d, and pull down toggles. I have pulled all the bloat and system crap that I don't ever use. There isn't really much at all running in the background. I have pulled some init.d scripts from different roms to speed things up more but not sure which one I'm going to use yet. As soon as AOKP has the BT issue fixed I will be flashing it though.
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Sorry for the noob question, but how do you get the pulldown toggles on the stock rom?
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nkmassie said:
Sorry for the noob question, but how do you get the pulldown toggles on the stock rom?
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You can download notification toggle from the play store and set your own toggles in your notification bar
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That's pretty cool. I was thinking it had to be a modification to the rom itself.
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CM9 and Lovin it.
nkmassie said:
Just wanting to know what you all think. Not too much discussion going on here about them. I've used them all, good experiences. Pro, cons, whatever. I personally like the stock .230 leak. I find the smart actions very nice. Also like the app drawer with the different groups.
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I stayed on the .232 leak for a couple days, enjoyed the new "Blur" but there were just a couple thing i didn't like. The launcher was alright a little prehistoric compared to today's standards with Apex and especially Nova being so fast and smart. Not being able to change the Lockscreen shortcuts aggravated me but overall the Lockscreen with its separate Camera, Phone, Messaging, Sound settings, and Lock is nice.
But after I flashed CM9 i wont look back. You can customize everything, there is shortcuts to everything, its very responsive, and Cyanogenmod Team really made there stock applications wonderful. You can tell they took there time in making everything run smoothly and look great as well.
So i would go with CM9 especially Axiobeam.06_TARGA. Thats what i flashed and i love it. It includes alot of extras worth having.

I'm currently on 232 and love it. Tried AOKP and CM9, and while they are both solid, they both lack one CRUCIAL feature- Webtop.
Since I am addicted to my Lapdock, I'm staying with Stock ICS until a good rom comes along with a working Webtop.
Not a big deal though since stock ICS is pretty damned-near perfect.

The CM9 u tried, was it the unofficial one ported by dhacker29?
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While I do love the features of CM9, there are small things that I really like about the Bionic ICS, like the text app. I like the black background versus the white of CM9/AOKP. I haven't toyed around with Apex enough to know its potential, but I have no complaints about the stock launcher.
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I've flashed 2231, 2233, and now 232, and all of them have had constantly high CPU and RAM usage, making my phone painfully slow to use. However, on the AOKP ICS-leak builds I had no such slowdowns (despite other bugs), with almost all of the same apps installed.
Has anyone else experienced poor performance with the stock leaks?

Occasionally I notice the slow downs, but have definitely noticed the high cpu usage, even after switching governors.
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So I've been using AOKP for a few days and noticed the light behind the capacitive buttons never shuts off. Even when the screen is off they just dim. Any ideas for a fix, or is that part of the ROM?
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nkmassie said:
So I've been using AOKP for a few days and noticed the light behind the capacitive buttons never shuts off. Even when the screen is off they just dim. Any ideas for a fix, or is that part of the ROM?
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Go into your display settings and toggle the auto-brightness (IIRC)...

Any of these ics roms have it to where the starts bar WONT scroll down on the lock screen?
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dblkspecial said:
Any of these ics roms have it to where the starts bar WONT scroll down on the lock screen?
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You really only need to ask the question once in a given forum. But honestly I haven't noticed in on either the ICS leaks I've used.
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Actually I just noticed it but I think it is as designed. If my phone is locked, not just screen timed out, and I have an unlock pattern (probably pin too) the status bar does not open. If the screen is timed out the status bar can be pulled open.

Not sure, and don't see why it would be a deal breaker. Currently using AOKP with no problems at all.
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Only thing that's turning me away from cm9, AOKP or even liquid is the crt animation is down towards the bottom of the screen and when I scroll from screen to screen is glitchy unlike the ics leak
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Yeah that was bothering me so I turned CRT off. I just recently installed CM10 and its nice aside from the lack of camera. Definitely very promising.
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Lag when scrolling????

I just picked up a Black HTC ONE and so far I love this phone only thing I'm annoyed by is I am having lag when scrolling and in animations when opening apps and unlocking the phone. I'm not rooted yet cause I am holding off for a little while until development picks up. Is any one else having these kind of problems??? Should I try a factory reset and if I do a factory reset do I have to do a complete wipe of all my photos and music???
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don't have this problem. mine is as smooth as a baby's bottom. lol
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That sucks for me. My home screen scrolling is fine just in apps it is jumpy
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Mine is rooted but still on stock Rom and kernel and it's super smooth.

I would back everything up and go for a factory reset
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Home screens and animations have been nothing but smooth for me..But facebook and twitter and most apps that are not native that have vertical scrolling has been choppy..Not enough for me to care though.

Have you tried simply restarting the phone? Give it a restart, and let it settle for about 10 minutes (Android does a LOT of stuff on bootup, even after the launcher appears).

BrianBaker said:
Home screens and animations have been nothing but smooth for me..But facebook and twitter and most apps that are not native that have vertical scrolling has been choppy..Not enough for me to care though.
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That's exactly what I'm having I can live with it
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(Mod) crossbreeder lag fix etc

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
Saw it in a s3 forum and I flashed on mine . it isn't my work so please please please give the op credit/thanks/donations/hugs
Super good I never had my signal bars so full before and also fixes lag like crazy . make to download all zips just in case anything happens you never know .
This was flashed with aokpz unofficial on mako with stock kernel so you never know . suppose to help battery as well. We will see since its running so smooth now
Ohh PS.try it and report back thanks
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raidrom said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
Saw it in a s3 forum and I flashed on mine . it isn't my work so please please please give the op credit/thanks/donations/hugs
Super good I never had my signal bars so full before and also fixes lag like crazy . make to download all zips just in case anything happens you never know .
This was flashed with aokpz unofficial on mako with stock kernel so you never know . suppose to help battery as well. We will see since its running so smooth now
Ohh PS.try it and report back thanks
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i took a liberty to look inside the zip that you flashed.. when you have issues later on(random reboots, etc. theres lots of potential for conflict in that zip), just reflash your rom(and gapps), no need to wipe.

simms22 said:
i took a liberty to look inside the zip that you flashed.. when you have issues later on(random reboots, etc. theres lots of potential for conflict in that zip), just reflash your rom(and gapps), no need to wipe.
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I know . but he has a revert zip and also one in case it doesn't book . I use thought cause with each nightly I deleted 18 apps out of the system/app and only have 76 total between that and data/app
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I heard crossbreeder works better, Although I haven't tested it out myself.

tarroyo said:
I heard crossbreeder works better, Although I haven't tested it out myself.
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Do it its awesome
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All these lag eradicating solutions might do more harm than good. The better solution is to try a custom kernel or tomorrow rather than toy with these less than technically fundamented placebos.
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drakester09 said:
All these lag eradicating solutions might do more harm than good. The better solution is to try a custom kernel or tomorrow rather than toy with these less than technically fundamented placebos.
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Did you research what was done before you posted ? Or was this just a negative lashout for no apparent reason ?
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raidrom said:
Did you research what was done before you posted ? Or was this just a negative lashout for no apparent reason ?
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The former, I saw it too when I had an S3. I read it before.
It's less damaging to your battery life compared to Seeder and less placebo than supercharger but it's more intrusive and it messes around with this that are not the source of lags/issues
Most likely it keeps i/o or cpu less in idle state so it performs better, but has a cost in the long run.
Kernels are a much better approach and frankly I had zero lag issues with this phone.
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jfi .....kernels mess with governor settings too.

I have the Octa S4 and I have flashed this too, I am using one older version though but it does indeed make your phone somewhat a lot smoother, animation and scrolling, but i'm selling the S4 and returning back to Nexus (S4 Price = Nexus 4 + Nexus 7 Second Gen (?))

My nexus 7 is not smooth at all!

Hey, my nexus 7 doesn't feel smooth at all. The UI feels choppy and games are lagging, even my brother iphone 3 feels smoother :crying:
I have rooted,overclocked,custom launcher etc but STILL it feels laggy, how can i solve the problem? i have latest jellybean 4.3

Try doing a clean install of 4.3 and using a different kernel.
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veeman said:
Try doing a clean install of 4.3 and using a different kernel.
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Thanks for reply, what kernel do you reccomend?

lolpok said:
Thanks for reply, what kernel do you reccomend?
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I personally use M-Kernel. But my two favorite kernels are M-Kernel and FrancoKernel. Both can be found in the Nexus 7 Original Development section.

You should install CM 10.1.2.
Everything seems to work and my Nexus 7 is faster than ever. I was running Paranoid Android and it was laggy as hell.
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Maybe you have filled the SD card too much. When the nexus has very low free space, it slows down significantly.
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You can try running an fstrim on your storage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
You can try running an fstrim on your storage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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I thought 4.3 has that enabled by default.
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orlandocorral said:
I was running Paranoid Android and it was laggy as hell.
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Disable Halo.

If you're running stock 4.3, disable Google currents. This is a tried and tested fix that should fix any choppiness.
If the problem still persists, follow what veeman said and try using other kernels

veeman said:
I personally use M-Kernel. But my two favorite kernels are M-Kernel and FrancoKernel. Both can be found in the Nexus 7 Original Development section.
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Ok, thanks. It helped a bit but is it still possible to smooth it out more? or maybe it's just the hardware now.

lolpok said:
Ok, thanks. It helped a bit but is it still possible to smooth it out more? or maybe it's just the hardware now.
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You could try running an app like Forever Gone SD card cleaner. And using Greenify to hibernate apps that are running in the background might help.

nice
yes have problem

christianfgs said:
If you're running stock 4.3, disable Google currents. This is a tried and tested fix that should fix any choppiness.
If the problem still persists, follow what veeman said and try using other kernels
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Holy ****, why does this work as well as it does?! I use currents all the time on my N4 without issue but WOW what a difference it made uninstalling it on my N7.

3dawg said:
Holy ****, why does this work as well as it does?! I use currents all the time on my N4 without issue but WOW what a difference it made uninstalling it on my N7.
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Lol, thought they would have fixed that by now. I guess not.
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Just got a first gen 32gb model running 4.3 and it's just fine. I did go into Developer Options and turn off those silly 1x animation things to "off".
Might want to give that a try.

killa12222 said:
Disable Halo.
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how to disable halo?

helloterence said:
how to disable halo?
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Double tap and drag it to the X at the top. Halo is still buggy on 4.3.

If you have hundreds of apps installed, use Greenify. Sorry, root is req.
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revamper said:
Maybe you have filled the SD card too much. When the nexus has very low free space, it slows down significantly.
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Isn't this generally the same with all devices?
For example, completely fill up your computer's hard drive and test how laggy it is compared to when it had nothing but the OS installed.

Everyone in 4.4 using ART. Conclusion?

I feel like the device is much snappier. I heard battery is supposed to be better with it as well but I can't confirm. The xda app was never the best , now it is almost fluid o.o. or at least noticeably better. What do you have to say ?
i was told to add this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1qbko3/art_broken_apps/
edit: I would like to add that the apps i notice this most is for instance, when i use hangouts and i'd right ALOOOOOOOT with someone and then scroll up at a fast rate, it would stutter. Now, this stutter is nearly gone.
XDA - xda app is one of the most noticeable, stutter has been reduced by such a large margin that you'd have to try it yourself to believe it.
G+ would have the occasional hickup when scrolling through news posts. Next stop would be the play store, it used to stutter a lot as well, now it's become a lot better. Just for the hell of it i compared it to my sister's note 2 and the difference is there.
I doubt this is a placebo effect, i'm even considering to make a video as proof with dalvik on and off for the hell of it.
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I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?

No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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MameTozhio said:
I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
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can't install

I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Please do not go off topic
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I'm using it.....a Lil snappier but noticeable... But a increase in battery life so far...everything seems so buttery... Hard to tell
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Oops wrong.

Albert62 said:
It sucks.
The Nexus doesn't even get the Nexus's 5 launcher. I don't see much difference. I'd call it 4.3.2
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someone posted this, i only have the link sadly so i can't give credits, thanks regardless.
https://mega.co.nz/#!EBIBFKpB!FoxEijz50FrcoBlSQXJG3wznJvpkqzbp936w1jk4J14
Paste that into your system lib/app and install the launcher app in the folder and voila: you've got it all.
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I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Well, it's kind of obvious, if you want the best experience for now you're going to want to go with the official 4.4, since the developers need their time to work their magic.
I have no crashes, i'm using ART so far cause i could care less about what's app. I'll report in about battery life observations once i've at least had this thing running for a whole day.

Feels really smooth so far; don't use any apps that crash(thankfully) on ART. Hard to tell with the battery as I came off a custom kernel that was picked for low power usage. Like with any new firmware, it usually takes a few days of my phone running before I can really judge things. Got to give all the apps running a little time to muck things up to get a solid feel for real world performance; but I'm hopeful from what the past few hours performance/battery wise.

Ignasiuz said:
Please do not go off topic
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please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.

Ignasiuz said:
No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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I know that. I was just asking before other people did. Because it has been said in other threads as you've said, yet people still ask.
Anyway I really like ART. Better memory management it seems to have when using it, and feels snappier

simms22 said:
please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
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Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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Just switched to art on today's stock KitKat after running art on nexus 5 port for a week. No stability issues and have 165 apps installed with no bugs. Battery life is improved by approximately 15% and performance is much quicker
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It's not worth the hassle in my opinion. I couldn't notice any tangible difference, performance-wise. I tried it on SlimKat, though. I may probably give it a second try now on stock but the whole idea of having non-working apps like Whatsapp and TiBu just takes the appealing away for now.

Could this just an elaborate hoax to test the placebo effect of Android optimization? I don't understand the true potential if it.
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Ignasiuz said:
Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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it just seems that with time, there develops slowdowns. like a far majority of the time i press the recents button and they pop open fast. but occasionally, it takes its time. like a few seconds. i only get that when using ART. im not knocking it, because i do enjoy playing with it. im just giving my experience

sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?

gm007 said:
sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
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Did you switch to ART?

PoisonWolf said:
Did you switch to ART?
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sorry no my bad