[Q] Is my international version Galaxy Note used? (custom binary count: 1) - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just received my new Galaxy Note international version. I bought it from Amazon, and it was listed as 1 year US Warranty, now they changed the title to International Warranty. The seller is "WorldWide Distributors", and they said it has a 1 year international warranty, but has no US warranty.
Anyways, when I opened up the box, there was only one sticker on the bottom of side of the box, so I didn't have to tear off any stickers to open it. Inside, the phone had some fingerprints, and I noticed that maybe the seller just checked it out before sending it to me.
After searching for rooting, I learned that there is a "custom binary download" counter so I stopped and just decided to use stock rom for now without root. Then I found out when I did "vol- home power" to go into odin mode, it shows "Custom binary download: yes (1 counts)", with "samsung official". Does this mean the phone was flashed by somebody and it is a used phone?
The seller charges 15-20% restocking fee if I want to return it, and the warranty part is really fishy. I already ordered the $1.50 usb thingy that resets the counter, so I'm not really that concerned, but it's just that I feel bad for paying $660 for a supposedly a brand new phone when in fact it might be a used one.
Some more information:
Android version: 2.3.6
Baseband: N7000XXLA4
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA4-CL886827 [email protected]#2
Build number: GINGERBREAD.XXLA4
Now, my 5 hours usage review--
I feel the phone is slow. Maybe I feel this way because I had a Nexus S with custom ICS ROM (1.2GHz OC, single core). It feels like I came back to Windows XP from Windows 7. Everything is kind of sluggish, and I have ADW launcher with minimal effects. There are no updates for the ROM when I checked, so I think it's most up to date. The screen is kind of ugly too because the damn pentile shiity thing. One thing I didn't like about the Nexus S was the pentile screen, and now Galaxy Note is kind of the same way when I make the letters appear small. Of course, this can be overcomed by using larger fonts since Note has a larger screen. On the back where the battery is, manufacture date is Feb 2012. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Quadrant scores 3598. Reviewing pictures in QuickPic is very sluggish (maybe from the high res screen?).
I hope ICS will solve the performance issues.

Okay. You've got a used Note. If you purchased via Amazon, you won't have to pay a restocking fee. The bottom line is that you paid for one thing and received something else. Amazon has you covered. The seller can't do anything about that.
Second, if you'd quit reading text on your Note with a magnifying glass, it would look fine. If you're not using a magnifying glass, then the only reason you know it's a Pentile® display is because you read it somewhere. All text looks like crap when it's so small that each letter is rendered by a whopping two pixels. An RGB stripe won't look any better.
Bend the seller over. Get yourself a new Note... and just enjoy it!
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Okay. You've got a used Note. If you purchased via Amazon, you won't have to pay a restocking fee. The bottom line is that you paid for one thing and received something else. Amazon has you covered. The seller can't do anything about that.
Second, if you'd quit reading text on your Note with a magnifying glass, it would look fine. If you're not using a magnifying glass, then the only reason you know it's a Pentile® display is because you read it somewhere. All text looks like crap when it's so small that each letter is rendered by a whopping two pixels. An RGB stripe won't look any better.
Bend the seller over. Get yourself a new Note... and just enjoy it!
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Thanks for your reply! So, +1 on the count means it is a definitely a used?
The Pentile is noticeable, and I learned this word after searching for why the text is not so clear when I had Nexus S. It's not because I read it from somewhere.
The black text on white background is not as sharp as I want it to be. The small text on webpages or even thin black lines are not made of clear lines. That's how I know it's Pentile display. Actually, it was confirmed after searching about it.
Compare this with any other regular LCD display, or iphone4 or ipod touch 4th gen, and you'll know what I mean. The large screen kind of compensates the lack of sharpness for small letters because I can make the fonts larger, but I was hoping to see it sharp even for the small fonts. I have a good eye sight, so that may be another reason.
I don't make much phone calls, so I like the form factor and all. I also have a wacom tablet, so I know the limits of the pen. But not having a stylus calibration is kind of odd.
Anyways, I guess I should send the seller an email about this since they open M-F, and it's already Friday evening here.

I have an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 4S. The lack of sharpness is due to the Note having lower pixel density than the Retina display. I know you looked it up when you had the Nexus S. And I know small text isn't as sharp as you'd like it to be. The point is that it's as sharp as it SHOULD be. If the Note had an RGB stripe display, text would still be subject to clarity loss as it's reduced in size. The reason you're noticing clarity loss has nothing to do with the Note's display matrix. It's because you allowed your eyes to adjust to the 320dpi display on the iPhone 4/4S. Trust me... your eyes will adjust to the Note. Mine did. That being said, the Nexus S doesn't have the pixel density that the Note does, and you CAN see the Pentile® matrix on it.
As far as your used device concerns go; yes, you were sold a used device. Moreover, you've been sold a used device with a voided warranty. Not only did someone use your phone, at some point, they flashed it with a custom kernel or OS. File a complaint and get a new device or a refund.
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+1 count means it was flashed once with custom ROM. And naturally samsung / retailer won't do this.
So sure it has been done by some user.
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[Q] Is this thing too big? Any regrets?

I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
deeken said:
I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
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In my honest opinion, no. It's big, no doubt about that, but I have never felt that it's too big. I have slightly larger hands than normal, but many of my friends have tried it and none of them complained about it being too big to hold. My girlfriend on the other hand can't even hold it in one hand, so it's probably not a good phone for people with small hands.
It's thin so it goes down into my normal sized jeans pockets without any problem.
My recommendation: If you have normal sized hands and pockets, buy it, you won't regret it.
i find the size to be perfect, in fact, i would happily go up to 5.5inch or even 5.7 if they made it! after a day, you wont notice any difference and you'll wonder why you never had a huge screen phone before (because no-one made one, but thats not the point).
deeken said:
I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
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The only way to find out is to try it out your self. I remember thinking my sgs2 was too big until I actually held it. But it does boil down to personal preferences. Also I don't think anyone here will tell you it's too big(It's NOTE FORUM)
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My girlfriend on the other hand can't even hold it in one hand
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Lol, that can't be a bad thing
Sorry couldn't resist above comment.... On a serious Note (pun intended), you will probably get used to the handset within a couple of days after seeing everything on a larger screen and then wonder how you got by all this time with smaller screens.
Just to be clear the screen size is 5.3 inches but the phone from top to bottom is 5.8 inches correct?
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yeap that's correct. I had doubts Note would be too big for me but after i get used to the large screen now i'm really happy with dimensions. It's big but not bulky and heavy. It's actually very light and slim. I didn't know that galaxy tab 7" plus has phone capability on honeycomband os. I thought to myself after i learnt it today if 7" would be even better. But i checked the technical spesifications and learnt that it is twice heavy (360g) with lower cpu power (1.2 GHz) and wider chasis around screen. So i'm pretty happy with weight and dimensions for now. Just longing for ICS official release to take full benefit of the hardware and use tablet mode like HC software wise.
I was using S2 and when Note launched , I thought what the hell is this ?
thought it's too big! one day I was shopping with me mate, he after the Note and he got it.
putting my S2 aside his newly acquired Note, My S2 was like a toy and was amazed by how much the screen looks better than my S2 .
Then we go back to the shop to get myself a Note as well.
Its big, obviously but after 3 days of use, I found the size is perfect.
except for sometimes one hand operation is virtually impossible.
it is awkward at best as a one handed since you can't reach the far Corners or the other edge of the screen. but outside of that it's fantastic
I just received my white note literally 2 hours ago and when I opened the box and first saw it sitting there I said out loud "wow"
I played with it for an hour and then put it on charge, while i do some work I need to do
I have since made and received 3 or 4 calls and I am used to it already and I do not consider it too big. But I am a person who always considered phone screens to be too small for anything useful, and until this phone haven't been motivated to change my HTC Touch HD. yeah I know sort of out of the arc.
Also I was considering buying a tablet, purely for aeroplanes and trains as to use my 18.4 inch laptop in a plane etc is a bit inconvenient. (but needed for how I use it generally). now i shall no longer buy a tablet as even with my short play i can see it can do what i was considering a tablet for.
But you really need to go and hold one and try it for yourself as other peoples and my opinion is always going to be from our perspective, which may not suite yours
seeya Ian
p.s the call quality was superb just like a phone should be and as far as I remember better than all my other phones
Thanks for the opinion guys. I'm getting real excited about it now. Only a few more days before we can pre-order. I know the specs aren't the same but I hope the AT&T version performs just as good as the international.
I was like you and had some concerns about the size, but I ordered the international version anyway. I've had it for about a week now and I find the size to be a non factor.
I have small hands. I can still use the phone with one hand with some maneuvering, but I don't find it too distracting. Sometimes the bottom of my thumb joint hits the applications button by accident when I try to reach for something in the far left top corner but I learned to adjust to it.
I love the phone and its size. I got used to it very quickly and don't even think about it now. It fits fine in all my pant pockets. The screen is beautiful and makes reading, watching videos such a joy. I don't think I'll be able to go back to a phone with anything less than 5" now.
It's just a wonderful phone.
Had the Galaxy Note for 4 days and it gets smaller by the day.
I'm on my second day with the Note, and am still adjusting to the size. By no means do I regret getting it, but it does mean that I need to walk a bit more carefully with it in my front jeans pocket (yes, they're a rather slim pair). I wouldn't dare sit with it in that pocket.
This is the first phone that can legitimately replace 98+% of my need for a laptop on-the-go, so I'll gladly live with that sacrifice.
Was doubting the purchase until I first inserted the battery, oh the gorgeous screen!
Nope, its the perfect size (this is 3 months into owning one).
Best phone I've ever had. (and I've had quite a few)
Seems large at first, but now! Now I get my iphone friends asking to see videos on my phone-"cause it looks better"
Size you get used to!
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Yeah it was BIG the first time ... now everything else is just too small
lol
On a serious "note" .... The 5.3' Screen size is amazing. So much on screen real estate for browsing, gaming drawing. There is a reason Samsung is selling so many Galaxy Notes. I was just typing something on my iPhone 3GS (Which i use for iPod purposes in the car) and damn that screen felt like a calculator hahah ...
deeken said:
I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
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You can always check out the device when it stocks arrive, Initially I thought it was very big for a mobile phone but after testing out the dummy phone I found that its actually a perfect size for a mobile phone for either landscape or portrait use.. I use it mainly in portrait. Also going back to a smaller phone might be hard for me which Im going to do eventually.
hackerboi said:
Yeah it was BIG the first time ... now everything else is just too small
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+1 jajajaja
Galaxy Note it's not too big, the other phones are too small. Screen size on the phones have been increasing for years. I remember my Nokia with a 2" 176x220 screen, and thinking that you can really read some text there (previous phones had monocrome, 2 text lines screen). Then it went to 3.5" screens (the same as the iPhone, jajaja, it has the same size I had in 2006).
I remember the times when people said that 4" was too big, and now only the iPhone has a screen below 4" (and it will be solved on the iPhone 5). So 4.3-4.5" is normal for many people. 5.3 just makes it better, more glass and more pixels to work with. I can type in portrait mode without pressing 4 keys at the same time. Playing a 720p video on this screen impresses everyone.

[Q] White GNote AMOLED Display, any issues?

Many have complained about problems with the GNote's Display. Does anyone here have the white version of the GNote? How's the display?
SAlmighty said:
Many have complained about problems with the GNote's Display. Does anyone here have the white version of the GNote? How's the display?
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I have/had a white one... On mine there were no probz at all.
However, i didn´t test it that crazy... No banding and no abnormal pixelation of the blacks atleast.
Atm it´s in for service... Had a complete crash... Maybe that will be the white version faults
^ What about the issue of faint horizontal and vertical lines especially on a white background at minimum / maximum brightness?
I have a white one as well. no problems at all
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Have a White G NOTE ... no problems with the display!
^What is the Month of Import?
the white ones suffer from the same problems as the "blue" ones! seen two of them, both had the "classic" faults: one had a very strong tint which got worser on the right side of the screen, the other one was considerably darker and had a yellowish tint over the whole screen! both had the black clipping issue and cut the gamma test at 4 (in standard mode)!
VERY IMPORTANT:
i had a LOT notes so far, all of the screens were faulty to some extent. only 2 out of 14 had a correct (or at least much better) gamma calibration/value, but both of them had other severe problems (one side tint, unevenness)!
also to notice the "blotch errors" you have to display a black picture, go into a complete dark room, let your eyes accommodate and see for yourself!
AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO COMPARE YOU WONT BE ABLE TO TELL IF YOU HAVE COLOR TINT (only if its really dramatic), I THOUGHT A FEW TIMES MY SCREEN IS NOW REALLY GOOD IN TERMS OF COLORATION, BUT EACH TIME I WAS ABLE TO OUTPERFORM IT DRAMATICALLY WITH AN OTHER DEVICE!!
SO: IF YOU THINK YOUR SCREEN IS FINE: DO NOT COMPARE!!!
otherwise you WILL get worried!!!
just my 2c...
have a white note from movistar in Spain and has the display and camera problems.
+1 to what TML1504
@OP
I think you are looking for a more objective reply rather than a subjective one, I recommend you stop your search for now and probably wait a few batches later.. Maybe 4-5 months from now? If the S2 was a sign of things to improve it really did after 6 months.
I'd figure since new models are set to release, Samsung must have already addressed the problems in the newer Note sooner than it did for the S2.
EarlZ said:
+1 to what TML1504
@OP
I think you are looking for a more objective reply rather than a subjective one, I recommend you stop your search for now and probably wait a few batches later.. Maybe 4-5 months from now? If the S2 was a sign of things to improve it really did after 6 months.
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I'd figure since new models are set to release, Samsung must have already addressed the problems in the newer Note sooner than it did for the S2.
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I was able to check 3 brand new white colored galaxy note from 3 different local shops and they have the video issues the same as mine which the store rep confirmed after we sent the file over and had them test in their storage room, which is my primary concern.
With just a quick glance, I can easily tell those units still show lines,dirty grey renderings and yellowish/greenish bottoms on the screen, this is with an objective result, subjectively the lines are not visible when viewing pictures of anything other then grey or browsing websites with brightness not lower than 2 notches.
I dont think they can or will address this as fast as the common screen issue everyone has is very subjective to the user and only those that are noticeable get returned, some insist on using a higher brightness just to cover it up.
Boycott Samsung 'till Further Notice, LOL
Sad to say, even the latest S2 display is better than the Note. The latest S2 batch corrects a lot of the problems that existed in prior batches. I've seen it myself; thats to easy to appreciate. Too bad Samsung doesn't give a damn about their own flagship products.
EDIT: @EarlZ, not a personal question, question to Samsung, Why would I want to conceal the problems that exist by decreasing the lifespan of my product; raising the display brightness will in turn reduce the lifespan of the AMOLED Screen, lol.
Its been like 3 months or less since it came out from the market so its a given that it will take a while to improve.. give it another 2-3 months more.
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Similar thread-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355905
By then the successor or newer SAMOLED's will arrive
You never know, lol
EarlZ said:
Its been like 3 months or less since it came out from the market so its a given that it will take a while to improve.. give it another 2-3 months more.
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So what's the procedure to test for this? Any particular video to play, or a site to go to?
bcn_nospam said:
So what's the procedure to test for this? Any particular video to play, or a site to go to?
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On a subjective side, you dont need to do anything special just use the phone how you would normally do and if you dont see anything that bothers you or any image abnormality then simply the issue does not exist on the phone, If your a new buyer just perform the things that you normally do and might do and from there draw your own conclusion, Like others I do not know the exact ratio of good to bad screens/phones but subjectively a majority of the phones should not have any issues on the screen.
If you want to perform something more objective you need to be more open to the methods, there like 3 active threads about it you can easily read up there.
I have a white note for the last 3 days, and due to a few threads about display and other problems, I have been especially looking out for them. but so far I cannot find a single problem with the display or any of the other problems that people have been complaining about.
It was bought from Amazon Germany and shows:
Android 2.3.6
baseband n7000xxla4
kernel 2.6.35.7-n7000xxla4-cl886827 [email protected] #2
build gingerbread.xxla4
If that is of any help to anybody.
But I'm not looking at it with one eye on the screen and one on a spectrometer
just my ol eyes, which to those it looks and works fantastic.
and also my 25 year old son, his eyes should be better than mine also says it looks fantastic to him, and will be getting one soon
seeya
It seems as if the German build quality / manufacturing process of the Galaxy Note is superb! Enjoy your Note.
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So what's the procedure to test for this? Any particular video to play, or a site to go to?
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Play the Dark Knight Rises trailer...
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SAlmighty said:
It seems as if the German build quality / manufacturing process of the Galaxy Note is superb! Enjoy your Note.
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I am returning the German one...has issues...
uh, i guess its all chance then, to samsung--thank you but no thanks,
i guess the white note serves as a placebo then

Did we all really expect to get a quality tablet at a starting price of 199$???

Well, as soon as I purchased my Nexus 7 tab and received it I thought to my self for 199$ I just robbed Google for this high spec tech giant of a tablet, packing a 1280x800 HD display, Tegra 3 CPU, 12 core GPU, 1 GB of RAM, NFC, GPS and Jelly Bean! WOW! and the list goes on and on and I thought I just couldn't complain even if I tried to. The first thing I wanted to do was to test it out with some apps and ROMs and kernel's and then the second thing was to hop on XDA Nexus 7 general thread to see if I missed any cons after my tests with the device and boy was there a lot of unhappy people with a lot of issues. So, I checked my device for dead pixels, screen lift, blown speakers and screen flicker...I thank GOD that I didn't have any of the issues stated, but I asked myself after seeing all of these people returning, upset, and bashing Asus and Google for quality issues, I thought to myself, if this had happened to me would I be among the bashing group? After a deep breath and thinking after all this is a 199$ premium spec tablet and with specs like this given for a price like 199$ and issues I've seen hardly even looked like a issue, hell! I wouldn't mind buying another for the bathroom as a electronic newspaper when I'm taking a LMAO! So guys, at a price like this for Nexus high spec like this I would have still purchased it even if it didn't have a chassis!
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Please post pictures of you defective Nexus 7's THANKS!
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
AZImmortal said:
You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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QFT.
Normally I would agree with the expectation that a $199 tablet would feel like a toy, but that was until I owned a Kindle Fire. That thing is built like a tank for the same $199, and its build quality I think is something I've never seen a complaint about despite the low price. So after owning a Fire, I would say I did expect the same sort of solid build quality at $199 out of the Nexus 7. Packing in high end internal hardware is no excuse to cheap out and have exterior bits and pieces failing, screens not calibrated well, etc etc. IMO for the sake of the manufacturer's reputation, either do it right or don't do it at all.
Whoever built the Kindle Fire is who Google should contract for the next Nexus tablet...
Google made this with the intent on gaining market share. I'm sure they make little to no money on the tablet itself. It all come from the Play Store.
That being said, I would still expect Google and Asus to put out a quality product, regardless of price. Now, I thankfully haven't had any issues, but if I did, I would still be upset. $200 is still a good chunk of change.
I cannot imagine that these two companies are happy that they have released a product with so many defects. Thankfully it seems that that they are handling the issues quickly and being helpful. Too bad they don't get any credit for that.
All said, I am very happy with my purchase, and feel better knowing if an issue does arise, I will be taken care of.
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AZImmortal said:
You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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Not really! For 199$ I would suck it up and not make a big deal about small issues.
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jalyn02 said:
Not really! For 199$ I would suck it up and not make a big deal about small issues.
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Your first post was on the money, but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care if your screen shattered due to poor build quality
I think most people would understandably be a little bit mad lol.
I've got minor screen lift on mine, and zero ****s given. It is an amazing device and the more I use it the more I love it.
It seems to have matured a bit over time too, had a rocky start with a bit of lag etc, maybe that was because I didn't know how to close backgrounded apps at first lol.
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Mungulz said:
Your first post was on the money, but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care if your screen shattered due to poor build quality
I think most people would understandably be a little bit mad lol.
I've got minor screen lift on mine, and zero ****s given. It is an amazing device and the more I use it the more I love it.
It seems to have matured a bit over time too, had a rocky start with a bit of lag etc, maybe that was because I didn't know how to close backgrounded apps at first lol.
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I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
It's all part of the delaying plan whilst Apple prepare their 7in tablet.
I know of 7 Nexus7's with friends and family and all of them are perfect to our specifications. My mothers has a small amount of screen lift, but she will never notice it, and it has no effect on daily use. I'm also pretty sure that before the internet age, there wouldn't be this sheep mentality into RMAing units... Those people wouldn't have even noticed these things.
CrazyPeter said:
I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
It's all part of the delaying plan whilst Apple prepare their 7in tablet.
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Apple shills, I love it! I'm totally prepared to believe this as a fervent Apple-hater. Is there an evidence? I so want there to be!
I picked up one last night(office depot) a C70 batch. Expected a quality product and got one. Very happy.
I guess it sounds strange around here, but yes. I do expect to buy a quality product. And I believe some people have gotten quality Nexus 7, so it's not like we are expecting the impossible.
Just waiting for ASUS to consistently reproduce that quality.
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I picked up one last night(office depot) a C70 batch. Expected a quality product and got one. Very happy.
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Nice! I thought I was the only one.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I bought one of these because it was the first Google tablet and it has pure, unadulterated Jelly Bean. With a Nexus device, you don't need to worry about app compatibility or updates. Your tablet is the only officially supported Android tablet.
Tell me what other, more luxuriant tablet has this much to offer in terms of software and compatibility. Then you can criticize me for being cheap.
CrazyPeter said:
I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
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Google CSRs have been telling customers that any screen lifting at all should be exchanged. We've been infiltrating the intern placement program in Cupertino for months, and when they corralled us into answering phones our preparations were complete.
Steve has a moustache. I repeat, Steve has a long moustache.
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I expected quality and I got it
I agree and disagree to certain extents.
The screen lifting is definitely inexcusable, although I'm still a believer of the idea that these forums makes the % of defective units sound a lot higher than it actually is.
However, there are a lot of other things that people are just being ridiculously OCD about:
1. Backlight bleed. Okay, I dont have it on this unit, but I've had it on my phones in the past, a bit on my 20" Dell IPS monitor and even some of my $1k+ TVs (thankfully not on my newest 50" plasma ;D). Considering the problem is really only obvious at a pure black screen and high brightness, I dont consider it a problem. Its more of a inherent disadvantage of using these kinds of displays.
2. Dead pixels. Same as above... My monitor has a dead pixel somewhere, although after years of using it I dont even remember where it is anymore. My 42" Toshiba LCD has two "stuck" pixels (one red one green) on the screen, bothered me for the first two weeks of owning it, but literally impossible to notice under normal use. Again, its an inherent disadvantage. Unless you have a good few dead pixels scattered all over the screen, just deal with it.
3. The flickering issue. I tried this myself; couldnt replicate it. Then I was told I need to have only 1 bar of WiFi signal, max brightness, light background, and be downloading a large file while keeping the screen on for at least a few minutes to begin noticing the issue... WHAT THE HELL? Are people serious about this one... its just stupid.
4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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Nippero said:
I expected quality and I got it
I agree and disagree to certain extents.
The screen lifting is definitely inexcusable, although I'm still a believer of the idea that these forums makes the % of defective units sound a lot higher than it actually is.
However, there are a lot of other things that people are just being ridiculously OCD about:
1. Backlight bleed. Okay, I dont have it on this unit, but I've had it on my phones in the past, a bit on my 20" Dell IPS monitor and even some of my $1k+ TVs (thankfully not on my newest 50" plasma ;D). Considering the problem is really only obvious at a pure black screen and high brightness, I dont consider it a problem. Its more of a inherent disadvantage of using these kinds of displays.
2. Dead pixels. Same as above... My monitor has a dead pixel somewhere, although after years of using it I dont even remember where it is anymore. My 42" Toshiba LCD has two "stuck" pixels (one red one green) on the screen, bothered me for the first two weeks of owning it, but literally impossible to notice under normal use. Again, its an inherent disadvantage. Unless you have a good few dead pixels scattered all over the screen, just deal with it.
3. The flickering issue. I tried this myself; couldnt replicate it. Then I was told I need to have only 1 bar of WiFi signal, max brightness, light background, and be downloading a large file while keeping the screen on for at least a few minutes to begin noticing the issue... WHAT THE HELL? Are people serious about this one... its just stupid.
4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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While i do expect to get a quality product with anything I buy, I couldn't agree more in terms of the over the top OCD. When I first opened my N7 from its packaging my first thought I had was WOW! I honestly thought the silver bezel was metal simply because the build quality felt so good. We all know the under the hood specs are top notch and it came sporting Jelly Bean. Do some units have a few early launch manufacturing flaws? Sure but that's usually the case with most new devices. So for $199/$249 I think ASUS and Google hit the nail on the head. Im 100% happy with my purchase.
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Well, I don't know about other countries but when the tablet gets to Sweden they are gonna lose very much cash if they don't fix these problems as the laws are very good for customers. For example, if having to return the same product twice/2 repairs without any difference you can claim your money back.
Expecting a perfect device or not it should be working as it is stated to do. I would not accept a device with the screen moving around when touching it for example, that is not how it is supposed to be.
What a silly question.
I expect to get quality on any device I purchase...especially a Nexus device.
That said, I have a tiny smidgen of screen lift, so minute that I had to really look for it to see it. I do not care.
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4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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See my response in that thread. It's a real issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30614118
I'd like to thank Mungulz, but I'm out of thanks for the day, so a "high-five" will have to do.
^5 Mungulz
I, too, had screen lift, and was able to repair it, myself. I also had a noticeable creak I was able to MacGuyver away with little effort.
I must say this is one hell of a device for two-hundred bucks, but if my homegrown fix hadn't worked on the screen lift, I would have surely RMA'd it after a couple of months (as others have done/are doing).
Had I had screen lift to the point where it cracked, I would have been quite (righteously) sore at Google/Asus, but would have definitely not taken things to the extremes I've seen on these forums.
Yes we did expect a quality product. And we got one.
Everyone has issues in their initial roll out, and Google seems to have corrected the issues in their next batch. So if you have a defective device, hold onto it for a little bit. Once the next batch reaches wide circulation, call Google and get a replacement. Problem solved.

Got GS6 Active

Just picked up my GS6 Active. I held out due to the smaller battery in the GS6. Coming from a GS2 rooted running pure CM, this thing is filled with bloat. Anyone else get one?
Anyway to root this thing to install TiBkup and freeze the bloat?
Considering it just came out today, I'm going to go out on a limb and say no.
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You need to be like me and rush out and get one. Since I was on a 4 year old GS2, I couldn't wait any longer.
Jackal2001-
I'm in the same boat; since the GS2 (which I'm still using), this is the first Galaxy S* that's made me want to upgrade. I'm going to (try to) hold off for a week or so though, and see what people's experiences are.
AoN.
I actually skipped the Active this year on purpose. I Just ended up getting a 64GB S6 and putting it in a case. I came from an AT&T S4 Active (SGH-i537) and was disappointed by how restricted it was and how difficult it was to find support in the development community. I waited to get an S6 until a couple weeks ago, until I was sure it was rootable and flashfire was working.
I also didn't want to give up the fingerprint sensor which was a feature that was very attractive to me on the S6. I am now quite happy. I might not be able to shower with the phone now, but the tradeoffs were too big to get me to consider the Active this time around again.
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I actually skipped the Active this year on purpose. I Just ended up getting a 64GB S6 and putting it in a case. I came from an AT&T S4 Active (SGH-i537) and was disappointed by how restricted it was and how difficult it was to find support in the development community. I waited to get an S6 until a couple weeks ago, until I was sure it was rootable and flashfire was working.
I also didn't want to give up the fingerprint sensor which was a feature that was very attractive to me on the S6. I am now quite happy. I might not be able to shower with the phone now, but the tradeoffs were too big to get me to consider the Active this time around again.
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I'm with you. I much prefer the regular S6 to the Active. I've got a regular S6, gold, 64 GB AT&T model and I love it.
Got one today as well. I believe the kernel is too new to use PingPong Root.
I am actually not that worried about it. I just disabled the apps and done. I'm actually tired of romn' phones and doing all that jazz anymore. If they come out with a one step root I may do that.
I'm more concerned with battery life and don't care about fingerprint scanner. Waterproofing is just a bonus.
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How much of the 32GB storage is available to the user?
I have 23gb free but I installed some stuff
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Pictures?
It is an awesome phone! I wanted the built in weather proofing, and the larger battery is great so I waited patiently! I did not care that the battery could not be easily swapped out, but I did want to be able to replace it myself when it needed it as well as do other minor repairs. At the very least I did not want to mail the phone off but take it in to a nearby repair center. I cannot find unboxing videos or detailed pictures. Can anyone post some especially of the port on the bottom and back? I was set to get this, but it is my understanding that it is going to require a heat gun to take the back off too just to replace the battery or even replace the charging port door--something I can easily do with the regular s5 model? If I had a Samsung repair center near me like an Apple center, I may have still considered this phone. There is still a small part of me that is still hoping against the odds that this thing is not glued together, but I am told it is. Why could they have not just tucked the sides under the metal flaps to hold the back down better and just screwed it down. They have screws there anyway for looks????
I am still trying to decide on getting this or getting something else like maybe the s5.
I am not sure about being limited to the 32 GB storage either, but I think I could get by with an OTG adapter for special events when I needed to record them. Wish there would have been a 64 GB option.
I also do not like the lack of MHL support as our Internet here is slow and not good for Chromecast.
For anything else I for go for pink, frilly looks (I am a middle-aged mom), but I just wanted a phone that I could use without worrying about day-to-day use. So this phone in an Otterbox (the black or gray it is going to come in) is just fine with me!
Thanks for any information for those who went out and got this. I have the feeling I am going to going with another phone though
PinkPower said:
it is my understanding that it is going to require a heat gun to take the back off too just to replace the battery or even replace the charging port door
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Just so you know there is no door on the S6A, all the ports are just open.
I have it too. So far so good. Upgraded from an active 4.
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I spent an hour playing with one in the "flagship store" in Boston. I finally decided that I wanted to buy it and the sales guy says oh we only have it in Camo white.. I wanted regular grey. They had 4 display models on the floor. I guess I'll have to order it online..
So I just did an overnight battery test. I have GPS disabled and WiFi set to turn off (more data useage) when it goes to sleep. I have NFC disabled as well as the LED on the front, etc. Overnight for 10 hours the battery dropped 6%. For me that is pretty damn good for a bloated factory image.
So how's the cell signal strength so far? Curious since it's got a different type case as opposed to metal and glass.. Also how's screen look. Solid white background have pink tint?
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So how's the cell signal strength so far? Curious since it's got a different type case as opposed to metal and glass.. Also how's screen look. Solid white background have pink tint?
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I see no pink hue, looks solid white to me on a google screen.
If I let this page sit on high brightness, http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php?p=2, I can see either a slight pink tint toward the bottom of the screen or it is me going blind from staring at it.
I don't travel a lot so cell strength seems normal to me.
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I see no pink hue, looks solid white to me on a google screen.
If I let this page sit on high brightness, http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php?p=2, I can see either a slight pink tint toward the bottom of the screen or it is me going blind from staring at it.
I don't travel a lot so cell strength seems normal to me.
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Have you checked to see where it was assemble (Vietnam, Korea, etc...) and what type of camera sensor it has? Isocell vs Sony? Sorry for the 20 questions just wondering how it compare to regular S6.
I made sure it was made in Korea. How would I find the camera sensor info
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See if this works. Copied from techtrikz and written by Kannan.
How to identify the camera model on your Galaxy S6/S6 Edge
1. Open phone dialer and enter the below code
*#34971539#
2. This will open the ‘Camera Firmware Standard’
3. Tap on ‘ISP VER CHECK’. This will show up the rear and front camera make.
4. For Sony sensor, it will be ‘SONY_IMX240_FIMC_IS’ and for Samsung Isocell sensor, it will be ‘SLSI_S5K2P2_FIMC_IS’.

Burn in on 2 month old phone

My wife has a Note 8 that she uses quite a bit. It's her primary internet device. She's had it since the beginning of October and already has burnin on her screen. It is a darker horizontal lines about 1/5 of the way down the screen and probably corresponds to a calendar or email widget that she has on the screen.
I know that there have been reports of navigation bar burnin, but she doesn't have that.
She came from a Note 4 and that thing had a massive amount of burnin.
This phone is two months old. I feel like for the money, it should last longer than two months without burnin.
Anyone else have this? Is it even worth bringing it to a Verizon store?
I have a Note 8 as well, but no burnin. But then I don't use my phone like she does hers.
usmaak said:
My wife has a Note 8 that she uses quite a bit. It's her primary internet device. She's had it since the beginning of October and already has burnin on her screen. It is a darker horizontal lines about 1/5 of the way down the screen and probably corresponds to a calendar or email widget that she has on the screen.
I know that there have been reports of navigation bar burnin, but she doesn't have that.
She came from a Note 4 and that thing had a massive amount of burnin.
This phone is two months old. I feel like for the money, it should last longer than two months without burnin.
Anyone else have this? Is it even worth bringing it to a Verizon store?
I have a Note 8 as well, but no burnin. But then I don't use my phone like she does hers.
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That's amoled screens for you... however I've never had burn in either on any Sammy oled device, had this Note8 since release date and it's fine.(as with all other Sammy oleds)
But don't think device is the problem it's how you use it like you said her note 4 was the same... Both are amoled screens,
My suggestion is either swap it for a phone that's not amoled or get rid of those damn widgets/theme the device so all the screen is being used / not used :laugh: if you had say a black wallpaper and white widgets on your screen , half the screen is actually turned off (where the black wallpaper shows).
Brightness levels and screen timeout times also would be worth changing
But sounds like the damage has already been done
I wonder if it could be a warranty claim or at least a screen replacement claim.
Wouldn't hurt to take it to the store and ask. Or chat with Samsing support online and ask them. Send them pictures of the burn-in. Samsung replaced a Galaxy Nexus I bought used back in the day that had really bad burn-in.

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