I want to Unroot my Droid (A855) but keep my stock Gingerbread 2.3.3 ROM by Peter Alfonso.
Would anything happen If I unroot my phone while using a custom ROM AND kernel?
Thanks!
I'm assuming you would still have either SPRecovery or Clockwork recovery still installed.
Make a backup and give it a try. If you don't like it, just reboot into recovery and restore your current ROM (with root). I suspect you won't notice much of a difference with the exception that you will no longer be able to run apps that require root.
What benefit were you expecting to get by removing root?
Am on criskelo 11.2 with speedmod kernel 3.13.
All is fine, it appears I have root (titanium etc works) and a check with 'got root' returns an ok response.
The phone is behaving itself nicely and is nice and smooth.
The problem comes when I try and do a nandroid backup using cwm.
It gets a liitle way in and then freezes (forever!)
Things I've tried to cure this...
1) Rolling back to stock GB and then re-rooting, then full 3 wipes, then reinstall criskelo rom.
2) Rolling back to a pre-rooted GB rom, then all 3 wipes, then re-install croskelo
2) Flashing other kernels, notecore etc
3) Installing superuser 3.1.1.zip with cwm and its binary update.zip
4) Installing SuperSU app from play store - it says needs to update binaries, and when I try it just says 'installation failed!'
5) Installing superuser app from play, this time when I try and update binaries it does helpfully say ' remounting /system as rw... fail!'
which leads me to believe this is a root problem, even though no other app is complaining.
6) doing a search on this forum (before you all tell me to do this!)
I have been trying to solve this for over a week now, and it feels like I have read everything on this forum but I may have missed something.
Can anybody steer me in the right direction please?
Maybe you dont need a nandroid backup, it doesnt backup efs anyway.
Could be a kernel issue, or space issue. Not sure.
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baz77 said:
Maybe you dont need a nandroid backup, it doesnt backup efs anyway.
Could be a kernel issue, or space issue. Not sure.
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Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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Have you tried updating cwm? I believe older versions had this problem.
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Have you tried updating cwm? I believe older versions had this problem.
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No I haven't Spyder, although I have tried a few different roms whic all have differing versions of cwm right?
which one is the latest then, and how do I install it, would it be an update zip?
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Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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I am a heavy flasher and prevent issues caused by restores to get a clean taste of roms. Nandroids I tried, but I havent found a rom I wanted to go back on always, flash so much that it just takes to long.
Efs with a tool in one if my threads, suggestion by Chasmodo. DrKetan has a good toolbox thread in general section.
I manually backup photos and such with a file explorer. Calander/Contacts/email in gmail,
whatsapp and special app stuff also manually transfer folder from sdcard and back.
Messages I dont care for. Neither made calls list.
Occasionally I do restore app if dissapeared from market with Titanium, but only app, not data. I save backups on external. Cause I clean sdcard also.
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jonnybruce said:
No I haven't Spyder, although I have tried a few different roms whic all have differing versions of cwm right?
which one is the latest then, and how do I install it, would it be an update zip?
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The latest version for Note N7K is 6.0.1.2.. chek the below link... download option is there
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
jonny, i feel your problem is due to partial root.
could you copy files into system in root explorer ?
did adaway work in applying hosts file ?
for criskelo rom too you should choose CF root kernel during the flashing process, then later you may change to your preference
Thanks baz & nokia, much appreciated.
I am running PA 1.99 now and it has the new cwm (you can tell because it has a grey background now!)
And rraaka, you are correct, I cannot copy anything to system
Not sure how I can get full root back though, I have used Dr Ketans rooting tool many times to try and cure this issue as well as flashing pre-rooted GB roms with Odin.
Not sure what else I can do.
But am starting to agree with baz now, I can do without nandroid (it takes ages anyway) and just use titanium to restore.
Everything is working fine with my partial root (except nandroid) anyway so not sure I care anymore!
Am enjoying Paranoid Android by the way, JB is fun.
I do miss the samsung apps though, I don't suppose those have been jellybeaned yet??
nope not yet, nothing Touchwizz like spen etc.
There is a cwm flashable of samsung apps that works pretty good on cm9, not sure if it works on cm10 or jb.
gaining full root shouldnt be to difficult, update binaries and then you know for sure.
The one that has worked wel for me is the ssu only zip from this post but then again thats on stock stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841288
For custom roms/kernels the ones supplied with it are build in to work out of the box.
Once fully clean install, a nandroid can work but thats fully clean
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Thanks baz, am going to go back to the start (stock ICS) and try that link to try and get my full root back, looks interesting.
Ok, I have full root again now!
here's what I think I remember what I did...
Downloaded the first two Su & busybox zips using method1 on the link that Baz kindly shared with me and popped them on my sd card ready.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
Downloaded and flashed the latest UK Carphone Warehouse stock ICS rom with odin.
Rebooted to stock recovery - applied update zip - flashed first the SU and then Busybox zips downloaded earlier.
Rebooted phone to check all was ok.
Located superSU app and ran it to check - and first it said it didn't recognise my phone model, hmmm...
So I downloaded mobile odin from play and flashed abyss 4.2 kernel
Rebooted to recovery, full 3 wipes and rebooted system.
Ran superSU again and magically it updated binaries and for the first time in 2 weeks it said 'sucessful', I was very pleased!
Rebooted to recovery and flashed Criskelo 11.2 again (have gone back to this from PA until things are a bit more stable)
Restored all my apps from TB all good.
Checked Adaway and it was more than happy to replace host file, and root explorer is also happy.
Cool
Hi - probably a dumb question but I want to be sure it's safe:
Say I install and root and older GB ROM & kernel that can be rooted easily using zergrush or whatever and make a Nandroid backup of it.
Then I install a newer ROM, say ParanoidAndroid JB and root it and make a backup of it.
Can I safely restore the GB and JB roms without any issues - especially bricking obviously but barring that will both roms function fine?
Thanks - please only answer if you are sure! Thanks.
Yes.. No problems at all. Just make sure the kernel you on should be safe.
Thanks for the reply.
Does it matter what version of Recovery (CWM etc) I have - is this completely seperate from ROM/kernel that's installed?
Cwm can only restore Cwm backups... Unless modified. Also sometimes backups made by newer version of Cwm may not be compatible with very old cwms. But I have tested the backup made with a new recovery Cwm and restored it with abyss kernel so it's okay.
I have an Xperia Z C6603 which I purchased last month, updated to Android 4.2.2, and which is still under warranty.
I want to root the device so that I can make Nandroid backups among other things. I am going to use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and have the necessary files in place ready to use.
After rooting I will have to install CWM Recovery in order to restore any Nandroid backups should I need to. I do not want to install a non-stock ROM at the moment as I'm quite happy with the performance of the stock ROM.
If I need to return the device under warranty I shall need to restore the stock, non-rooted, ROM and I have a stock ROM C6603_10.3.1.A.0.244_Generic UK.ftf to do that if required.
What I don't understand, even after doing lots of searches, is whether restoring the stock ROM will overwrite the CWM Recovery as that would be a bit of a giveaway.
Can anyone explain please?
BarrySamuels said:
I have an Xperia Z C6603 which I purchased last month, updated to Android 4.2.2, and which is still under warranty.
I want to root the device so that I can make Nandroid backups among other things. I am going to use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and have the necessary files in place ready to use.
After rooting I will have to install CWM Recovery in order to restore any Nandroid backups should I need to. I do not want to install a non-stock ROM at the moment as I'm quite happy with the performance of the stock ROM.
If I need to return the device under warranty I shall need to restore the stock, non-rooted, ROM and I have a stock ROM C6603_10.3.1.A.0.244_Generic UK.ftf to do that if required.
What I don't understand, even after doing lots of searches, is whether restoring the stock ROM will overwrite the CWM Recovery as that would be a bit of a giveaway.
Can anyone explain please?
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Flashing stock FTF will first wipe your existing files on your phone (even Superuser / SuperSU / any superuser permission-app will be erased) and then replace everything. This will also erase any trace of custom recovery image that is existing on your Z!
Hi, I'm running Benny's 4.3 (build number 3.04.651.2) Deodexed (because i do not see any .odex files in the system folder, right?) and I want to flash the update which keeps popping up in the notifications every 24 hours after clearing app data.
I tried doing the OTA update but my phone goes into TWRP. My biggest concern is flashing the stock rooted update because my phone really isn't rooted. I have SuperSu on the phone and sometimes I get "SuperSu has been granted permission" or something like that but Root Checker app says the phone does not have proper root access. I don't really know what is going on because I took my phone to a repair center to get it unlocked shortly after i got the official OTA 4.3 update. I read that you need to downgrade to 4.1 and then unlock the phone through SimUnlockHelper apk. When I got my phone back everything was working as it should and my phone is indeed unlocked.
My biggest concern is flashing a stock rooted rom because of the fact that my phone does not have proper root access. Would you recommend doing this and are there any precautions I should be aware of because I had nothing to do with rooting or tweaking android before since this is my first phone that runs android officially.
Thanks!
Andza195 said:
Hi, I'm running Benny's 4.3 (build number 3.04.651.2) Deodexed (because i do not see any .odex files in the system folder, right?) and I want to flash the update which keeps popping up in the notifications every 24 hours after clearing app data.
I tried doing the OTA update but my phone goes into TWRP. My biggest concern is flashing the stock rooted update because my phone really isn't rooted. I have SuperSu on the phone and sometimes I get "SuperSu has been granted permission" or something like that but Root Checker app says the phone does not have proper root access. I don't really know what is going on because I took my phone to a repair center to get it unlocked shortly after i got the official OTA 4.3 update. I read that you need to downgrade to 4.1 and then unlock the phone through SimUnlockHelper apk. When I got my phone back everything was working as it should and my phone is indeed unlocked.
My biggest concern is flashing a stock rooted rom because of the fact that my phone does not have proper root access. Would you recommend doing this and are there any precautions I should be aware of because I had nothing to do with rooting or tweaking android before since this is my first phone that runs android officially.
Thanks!
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use the backup feature in twrp to make a nandroid and flash a stock rooted 4.3 rom. if it doesn't work restore your backup. if u need any info the sticky thread at the top of this section by bd19 will really help. read thoroughly. fyi you cannot ota with a custom recovery (twrp) you need stock recovery.
jblaze10 said:
use the backup feature in twrp to make a nandroid and flash a stock rooted 4.3 rom. if it doesn't work restore your backup. if u need any info the sticky thread at the top of this section by bd19 will really help. read thoroughly. fyi you cannot ota with a custom recovery (twrp) you need stock recovery.
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^This is the safest option @Andza195
BTW, imo, it should work, but just backup just in case. Also, if something doesn't work, the real best method is just to download the newest version of the ROM, back (everything that's important to you) up, wipe everything in TWRP except Internal Storage (because this is where the flashable .zip is at!) and flash the ROM fresh.
jblaze10 said:
use the backup feature in twrp to make a nandroid and flash a stock rooted 4.3 rom. if it doesn't work restore your backup. if u need any info the sticky thread at the top of this section by bd19 will really help. read thoroughly. fyi you cannot ota with a custom recovery (twrp) you need stock recovery.
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Okay, thanks!
StormyNight said:
^This is the safest option @Andza195
BTW, imo, it should work, but just backup just in case. Also, if something doesn't work, the real best method is just to download the newest version of the ROM, back (everything that's important to you) up, wipe everything in TWRP except Internal Storage (because this is where the flashable .zip is at!) and flash the ROM fresh.
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Just flashed the stock rooted kitkat rom and everything is working as it was before, thank you all for your help!