When I try to boot my touchpad I get a battery icon with a ? In the middle. What does it mean and how can I fix it? I googled it and all I saw was people saying they had to send it to HP.
I finally had this device running perfect on CN and loaded 10gigs of ebooks on it less than a week ago. I guess if I have to webos doctor I will but it won't go into download mode. Also if I have to send it to HP will they refuse it because it is modded?
Thanks in advance!
- Sent from my OG Epic 4G runnin fine on CM9 -
EDIT: It appears I didn't search long and hard. Looks like I'll get to experience how challenging the RMA process is for HP.
If anyone else experiences this I found this thread to be most helpful: http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/310969-battery-icon-w-question-mark-researching.html
I'm in the same situatuon . I bought a new battery to replace what I thought was a bad battery. I put the new battery in and booted to the same battery with question mark symbol.
Desperate to fix my touch pad. Now since I've opened it I can't send it in for repairs. I'd like to fix it myself but can't find any spare parts. I'm thinking it might be the charging board.
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I have read that this happens if you let your battery die while in Android. Actually dont know if it happens in webOS too. I guess it fails to recognize the battery after completely draining. I read someone getting it back to normal by removing the battery and charging it externally, however that is accomplished. Did both of you have your TouchPad run out of battery?
Yes mine did unfortunately run out of battery while running android. I have tried charging the battery externally. I even bought a new battery for it. Both were charged as they powered up and displayed this battery with the ? symbol. So it's not the battery.
i got the battery with ? mark all the time when i forgot to charge and it drained turned itself off, simply let it charge(do not unplug) and it should auto boot into cm9 or webos(this usually take half hour or so). if that doesn't work, read post #31 to get it work. good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381564&page=4
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i got the battery with ? mark all the time when i forgot to charge and it drained turned itself off, simply let it charge(do not unplug) and it should auto boot into cm9 or webos(this usually take half hour or so). if that doesn't work, read post #31 to get it work. good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381564&page=4
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Did you get the battery with the ? mark? Or the low battery symbol. I have gotten the low battery before and just charging would solve that. I have left the Touchpad on the charger for days at a time with no luck. I have tried every available charger besides the touchstone. I know it's not going to just charge eventually. I have already taken it apart multiple times and replaced the battery and/or manually charged the battery. When the battery is re-installed it boots up to the same battery with ?. When I charge the battery to close to full manually the battery / ? icon stays on for hours then starts a boot loop sequence with the same logo.
i must have gotten the low battery symbol and thought it's the ? symbol. Have you tried "Press and hold power button(while still holding power button) keep press center button for 15 times?" to see if you could brought back the low battery symbol.
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i must have gotten the low battery symbol and thought it's the ? symbol. Have you tried "Press and hold power button(while still holding power button) keep press center button for 15 times?" to see if you could brought back the low battery symbol.
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Yes, it does not work in this mode. There was another thread where a guy had two HP Touchpad's and confirmed it did not work in this mode. He was doing it correctly on the working touchpad but did nothing to the stuck Touchpad. I have tried it with no luck.
I'm stuck, I don't know where the problem is if it's not the battery. I'm out $35 for the new battery and still don't have a working Touchpad.
The thread in the original post has a guy willing to experiment with JTAG to repair. I'd be willing to send mine to him if he does find a solution.
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Yes, it does not work in this mode. There was another thread where a guy had two HP Touchpad's and confirmed it did not work in this mode. He was doing it correctly on the working touchpad but did nothing to the stuck Touchpad. I have tried it with no luck.
I'm stuck, I don't know where the problem is if it's not the battery. I'm out $35 for the new battery and still don't have a working Touchpad.
The thread in the original post has a guy willing to experiment with JTAG to repair. I'd be willing to send mine to him if he does find a solution.
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have you tried to put back your original battery and try the Hold power then press Home key for over 15 times method?. what about disconnect the battery and see if it would even turn on at all?.
that's me
Hey kklown, I'm the guy from that thread, just started searching around once more to make sure nobody's figured something else out, and sure enough nobody's been bullheaded enough to plow through it yet.
I still want to invest into a JTAG box of some sort to recover my touchpad, and a hard bricked Evo 4g I still have. I will look you up when I get one (should be within the next few months) to keep you posted with progress. At the very least, it would be nice to know whether or not it's doable.
Anyway, if anyone knows anything we don't, be sure to speak up on this thread or the one I started at webosnation.
I'm thinking about getting a Li-Po charger just to keep trying to charge the batteries and hope that it will eventually work. I have 2 batteries now so it wouldn't hurt to charge one and plug one in for testing.
If you do get the JTAG to work I'd be willing to ship mine to you and pay you for your work.
Well, for me, I could leave it plugged into the wall charger that came with the touchpads, and it was definitely charging. I tested this by propping the touchpad's power and home(center) button so they were pressed, and left it for a few days (rebooting consistently when I left it). When I came back, absolutely no response from it, put it on wall charger. After a few minutes I unplugged it and rebooted by holding pwr+home, and it only had enough juice to show the battery question mark for one second before turning off the screen.
FWIW.
I'm waiting for my barely used Droid Razr to sell, and when it does the money from that will go to a JTAG box. Anyone want a mint Razr for ~275? haha.
I wonder if this has something to do with not charging the battery to 100% on first use. Was that the case with of you? Just a thought.
I've got the cash finally, going to make sure I have the right JTAG box before I purchase. Will update when I get it.
Awesome to hear. Hopefully this will be the answer to our problems. Please keep us updated on the progress and procedure.
For sure! Ordered a Riff Box tonight from Hong Kong via eBay, should be here around 5/11-16... should be fun to mess with.
HP replaced my touchpad, their tech support sucks I had to give my credit card info to someone overseas and even tho it wasn't charged I had to do it to send it in. After an hour or so arguing with the dude I gave him my number and he then submitted the ticket. They sent me a box and pre-paid next day air label and the whole process took a week or so before I received my replacement.
The issue I had (Battery Symbol with ?) Occurs when you let the battery drain to 0 while booted in Android, doesn't matter what ROM you're on so don't cuss out our great devs.
The (Preventative)Solution: Use an app like "Tasker" to shut down your device at 5%.
I actually haven't accomplished this tho... Tasker confused me lol. I doubt every ROM dev is gonna include this "power off at 5%" "feature" because everyone wants to sip every last % of their battery. Maybe a flashable mod could be made or something but that is beyond me since I couldn't even figure out Tasker.
If you CAN'T send it in to HP for replacement then the jig stuff you guys are talking about is probably your only hope.
- Sent from my OG Epic 4G runnin fine on CM9 -
I went and bought some JTAG equipment, and I'm ready to dive in.
Does anyone know what my target is to read from good touchpad / write to bad touchpad, or perhaps willing to share bin files,etc they may have access to?
Ready and willing...make me able! : D
Well I tried manually charging my batteries again.... I don't have a Li-Po charger so don't know if that would fix things. It does charge the battery I am powered up again but still have the battery with ?.
I figured out that the gold button on the mother board is a shut off switch. If you hold it for a few seconds the device will shut off. Sometimes it will also turn the device on but so far it's been very unpredictable.
I'm going on vacation and really wish I was able to fix this thing so I could watch some movies on my almost 6 hour flight. Guess I'll have to resort to my Motorola Atrix with LapDock.
Good info about the gold button! I went and re-read some of a thread on webosnation about where the touchpad expects the battery firmware to be. Totally forgot that it was on the integrated flash storage... so if that's the issue, getting the file on there is the easy part, IF I can figure out a way to interface with the integrated storage.
That's the next piece to figure out anyway. Don't think the JTAG box will be used for that, but who knows, haven't found much info for reading/writing from embedded storage directly. I'm hoping that with the right pinout and maybe extra parts, I can use it as a usb drive or something.
Will come back with info soon.
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Noobie addicted to flashing. The headline says it all. After about 5 -6 different flashes (mostly different ROMs), it wont turn on. And instead of the yellow light that shows when charging, it's a red one, and pushing the power button does nothing. PLEASE HELP!!
Ditto.... And I haven't had time to do any flashing (plenty of time for streaking, tho). lol. When did yours have this problem? Mine just happened last night. I have babied this one like there is no tomorrow, so there's no reason for it to just quit.
FWIW, mine happened the first night I owned it when it was completely standard (ie no flashing at all). All I did was plug it in to the charger. When I woke up the next morning it was as you described. The store reps tried every combination of new charger, new battery and new SIM card with my phone but in the end they gave me a new phone.
This is bizarre - the same thing happening to all of us on the same night?!?
I woke up late this morning because my phone alarm didn't go off. Upon inspection, I realized that it hadn't charged and was completely dead even though it was plugged in all night.
Now plugging it into the wall or into a USB port results in a red light, no charging. I can't even turn it on although it's directly connected to power.
I've flashed several ROMs, but I've been running Dutty's 7B since it was released two weeks ago or so - I doubt that's a factor.
Help? Anyone?
Ummm, ok this is really fawkin freaky...add me to the list. Running dualtouch 1.1. Hung up the phone, went back to it an hour later...dead as a doornail. Wouldnt charge, got the red LED. Luckily I'd only owned it for 27 days, so I returned it to my local AT&T store and got a new one....too many people on the same night for this to be an isolated incident...same as other users, babied it like, well, an overpriced cellphone . Methinks there is something afoot!!!
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Ok, this just happened to me just now...
MY 400$ PHONE JUST QUIT!!!!!
Not even 4 days old and it just gave out...
My standpoint (im a techie nerd) is this:
I charged my phone on my moms blackberry charger (~500mA)
The kaiser needs 1A to charge, so i only had half the power i was told...
When I had 89% I really had 44% and it drained really fast. So when I got home it was around 53% meaning I only had about 2% battery left (understand?) and when i pulled it out of my pocket...nothing, it wouldnt turn on SO I FREAKED OUT!!!!!!
I called HTC and they said to try a new battery, so I am going to go to the ATT store tomorrow and try another battery.
O and the reason is,
when Li-ion batterys get really low, they cease to produce the charge needed to keep the miniport active, thus resulting in any attempt to charge as futile.
Thats why you need to take out the battery and 'jump start' it by stripping a usb cable and putting the corresponding wires on their terminals (red + back -)
which will forcefully charge the battery and allow the miniport to become operable again. At which point you can resume using the HTC OEM charger (1A output at 5v) to resume the full charge. No other charger will suffice.
Im am going to try this now, you guys too and report back!
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But my battery is fully charged...
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Add me to the list.
Ok, this just happened to me just now...
MY 400$ PHONE JUST QUIT!!!!!
Not even 4 days old and it just gave out...
My standpoint (im a techie nerd) is this:
I charged my phone on my moms blackberry charger (~500mA)
The kaiser needs 1A to charge, so i only had half the power i was told...
When I had 89% I really had 44% and it drained really fast. So when I got home it was around 53% meaning I only had about 2% battery left (understand?) and when i pulled it out of my pocket...nothing, it wouldnt turn on SO I FREAKED OUT!!!!!!
I called HTC and they said to try a new battery, so I am going to go to the ATT store tomorrow and try another battery.
O and the reason is,
when Li-ion batterys get really low, they cease to produce the charge needed to keep the miniport active, thus resulting in any attempt to charge as futile.
Thats why you need to take out the battery and 'jump start' it by stripping a usb cable and putting the corresponding wires on their terminals (red + back -)
which will forcefully charge the battery and allow the miniport to become operable again. At which point you can resume using the HTC OEM charger (1A output at 5v) to resume the full charge. No other charger will suffice.
Im am going to try this now, you guys too and report back!
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Sorry to tell... but when this happening you need a repair. I got this problem 2 times with my Wizard. It's a hardware problem.
I did all the tricks you can mention but at the end it needed a repair.
I had some luck after the second time i got a compleet new MOB from T-Mobile SHOP Sales-Manager (Utrecht).
It sounds like the problem is with the Kaizer... so far everything overhere is OK.
I use only the org. loader and USB-port on my computer. Don't use a other loader than that !!!!
Just wanted to add my name to this list...
I've had my Tilt about 2 days. I haven't flashed it, but I have run several cabs on it...I didn't have it on charger when I went to bed, when I woke up, it was off. The only thing I did different than the rest of you was I tried to turn it on before I put it on the charger and it came back on saying that the battery was critically low or whatever, so then I stuck it on the charger and it seems to be ok now.
I could see it being a hardware issue, just seems weird that so many people had it on the same night, and under such different circumstances.
Also, first post...this site is great and you are all smarter than I ever hope to be
okay lets try this...remove batt....let phone sit for a few minutes. plug into power source without batt. unplg again....then plug again. while plugged into power source...put batt in...then remove...then in again. then hit the reset button. ofcorse this has nothing to do with anything. but if it was me i would try anything lol....lets see what happens.
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okay lets try this...remove batt....let phone sit for a few minutes. plug into power source without batt. unplg again....then plug again. while plugged into power source...put batt in...then remove...then in again. then hit the reset button. ofcorse this has nothing to do with anything. but if it was me i would try anything lol....lets see what happens.
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lol....good one.
No wait....I must hold back the epicaricacy, don't want this happening to me as well
A moral dilemma you have caused here with your post...
(Good luck to everyone who's experiencing those problems )
H.
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lol....good one.
No wait....I must hold back the epicaricacy, don't want this happening to me as well
A moral dilemma you have caused here with your post...
(Good luck to everyone who's experiencing those problems )
H.
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lol also...does the phone come on with just the power cable plugged in and no batt? im curious to know about that. the latest version of kaiser tweak has a bunch of power settings. if the phone does come one...load up kaiser tweak and get in there to see if you can mess with the settings to fix this issue.
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lol also...does the phone come on with just the power cable plugged in and no batt? im curious to know about that. the latest version of kaiser tweak has a bunch of power settings. if the phone does come one...load up kaiser tweak and get in there to see if you can mess with the settings to fix this issue.
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Well, speaking for those of us with the problem, the phone won't come on WITH the battery installed and the cable plugged in... I GUESS I could try it w/o the battery... would that even work normally?
I'm desperate.
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Well, speaking for those of us with the problem, the phone won't come on WITH the battery installed and the cable plugged in... I GUESS I could try it w/o the battery... would that even work normally?
I'm desperate.
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key word desperate!! lol anything works when you're desperate...give it a try. if not then we'll move on to hard resetting and see where that leaves us.
This same thing happened to me a week ago. I hope you guys have your phones on contract from AT&T, because I took mine back to the store after 2 months of use (took great care of it, no drops etc.) and they put me in contact with customer support.
Great experience with support - they will ask you to take battery out, examine the battery contacts, ask if it was dropped or put in water, ask if you tried another battery and finally ask about hard reseting. Since the device doesn't even power on in this case, hard reset isn't an option.
The tech rep imediately told me it sounded like a hardware problem and shipped me a new phone overnight. They send you a reconditioned phone (it looks brand new) without a battery or stylus or back cover. You use your old battery, cover and stylus and send back your brick with the enclosed shipping label. As long as it gets back to them in 14 days and is deemed by them not to have been dropped or damaged, you don't get charged for the replacement device. Worked like a charm for me...but we'll see in a few months time if this same problem crops up again. Fingers crossed...
P.S. They will initially quote you $12 to upgrade to overnight shipping, but make sure to tell them that the phone is for business use and you need it quickly and they should upgrade the shipping for free. Worked for me!
By the way - I never flashed a different ROM on the original phone. (Stock AT&T ROM but soft reset before bloatware intallation) So don't think it has anything to do with flashing too many or the wrong ROM!
Red light.......
I called HTC and they said something got smoked inside.......I called warrenty dept. and they shipped me a replacement.......I think this is weird too.....oh well such as life.......
Did you have to ship the smoked one back?
Kind of a dumb question yes, but if no, poke around inside to see if you cant get it working again.
happened to me too. i'm pretty sure its a hardware issue.
This happened to me as well. I'm glad there is a thread to address the problem!
The one thing I noticed that is different about this new kaiser I have is that the battery is made by DynaPack, the battery in the kaiser that has this issues was a Samsung battery.
May this be the culprit?
I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
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Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.
alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
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There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..
I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.
rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.
RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.
you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":
UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.
this did not work for me
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!
I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....
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There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay
My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....
Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.
ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay
Well, I'm baffled.
Last night I looked down to see my Bionic bootlooping. I let it do its thing and after a few reboots it stopped. Whatever, it's android, it's buggy.
Then when I picked it up, I realized it wasn't even on anymore. I tried to turn it on, nothing. So, I pulled the battery for a minute, popped it back on, and... still nothing.
Long story short, I ended up going to Verizon, trying different batteries, chargers, etc, and I can't get an inch of life out of the phone.
I can see a white LED light up when the phone is connected via the stock USB cable. No other cable will do it, and the wall charger won't do it. I don't know if this really indicates anything or not...
Is there anything else I can even try? It won't even boot into recovery - I never see the red M at all, the screen doesn't so much as even flicker. Unfortunately I bought the phone second hand from an iPhone 4S switcher, so there's nothing I can do to get a warranty replacement.
It's back to my original Droid for now...
I had the same problem Sunday night. Called tech support and they overnight-ed a replacement.
Try holding Volume down + power from the off state for a few seconds then letting go.
Or try Both Volume buttons + Power.
If those do nothing, it sounds like you have a very expensive paperweight. You need a replacement, sorry.
Whatever you do, DO NOT send the phone into Verizon!
Make up some excuse like you lost it or someone stole it or something.
Had my first Bionic do this I said I lost it claimed on my insurance but new one acts up also usually when it's overheating got my old one to fastboot did a complete restore to stock tested it by steaming netflix that lasted for about half an hour now it's just a paper weight!
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Would Motorola honor the 1 year warranty?
cryptiq said:
Would Motorola honor the 1 year warranty?
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If it covers your excuse, yeah.
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If it covers your excuse, yeah.
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Based on what details we have from the OP, it doesn't sound like he did anything to damage or modify the phone. So if the phone is stock he should be able to get help from Moto I presume?
what i did was
i had the verizon rep patch me straight through to insurion and got my o.g droid replaced.
I tried to get into recovery with no luck.
Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I can't send a receipt or anything Motorola's way. I do have the original box, though, and the original owner had it all of three days...
My phone was rooted to freeze some bloatware, but still on the stock ROM. It was running that way for weeks, so there's no way that would have caused it. I've never seen a phone just... completely keel over before. I'm half tempted to just use my original droid for 2-3 weeks and grab the nexus when it comes out.
If you haven't messed with any system files and you're completely stock, you can take the phone in for repair.
It's rooted, but there's no way for them to tell if it won't boot.
Motorola's live chat rep offered to let me send it in for RMA repair. The fine print says, though, that the repair stops being free the second they see anything that voids the warranty. My assumption is that they'll never be able to tell it's rooted because they will need to just send a refurb if it's shorted out, but should I bother risking it?
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I tried to get into recovery with no luck.
Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I can't send a receipt or anything Motorola's way. I do have the original box, though, and the original owner had it all of three days...
My phone was rooted to freeze some bloatware, but still on the stock ROM. It was running that way for weeks, so there's no way that would have caused it. I've never seen a phone just... completely keel over before. I'm half tempted to just use my original droid for 2-3 weeks and grab the nexus when it comes out.
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Did you try calling Moto? It would be one thing if the phone has been in the market for say 16 months and then the 1 year warranty period would come into question, but in this case the phone hasn't been out for more 3 months so it should be covered. I could see where they would require a receipt to make sure it was purchased from an authorized reseller vs. a grey market seller, but it's worth a shot to give them a call.
Any chance you can get in touch with the person that sold you the phone?
Same thing happened to me...
Was tethering my bionic to PC for web access when it died. It was really hot so I thought it was some sort of safety measure to keep the processor from frying and I tried all of the stuff lots of you proposed in addition to letting my phone lie on a heat sink to relieve some of that heat.
I know you mentioned that you took it to a store and tried all sorts of chargers, but did you try leaving it plugged in to a wall/car charger for a while? That's what did it for me after leaving the batteries out of the unit overnight (I don't think that part is necessary... I was just fed up messing with it and went to sleep hoping it would be magically fixed by some house gnomes) - after plugging the batteries back in that morning and having it still not work, I switch to a car charger (which is rated 1a - higher than the included 850ma charger) and on in the middle of a trip to the Verizon store it simply turned on displaying 5% power on battery.
Odd thing is, before it was tethered the last night, it was at 100% power. So either somehow phone got shorted and drained the battery really fast, or the bionic simply eats so much power with that LTE that even when being supplied power from the PC, it still drains the battery. And from reading some of the other stuff online after googling "white light droid on," it seems that white light indicator is some sort of charge indicator and that the OS won't show if the battery is less than 5%.
hanafubuku said:
Was tethering my bionic to PC for web access when it died. It was really hot so I thought it was some sort of safety measure to keep the processor from frying and I tried all of the stuff lots of you proposed in addition to letting my phone lie on a heat sink to relieve some of that heat.
I know you mentioned that you took it to a store and tried all sorts of chargers, but did you try leaving it plugged in to a wall/car charger for a while? That's what did it for me after leaving the batteries out of the unit overnight (I don't think that part is necessary... I was just fed up messing with it and went to sleep hoping it would be magically fixed by some house gnomes) - after plugging the batteries back in that morning and having it still not work, I switch to a car charger (which is rated 1a - higher than the included 850ma charger) and on in the middle of a trip to the Verizon store it simply turned on displaying 5% power on battery.
Odd thing is, before it was tethered the last night, it was at 100% power. So either somehow phone got shorted and drained the battery really fast, or the bionic simply eats so much power with that LTE that even when being supplied power from the PC, it still drains the battery. And from reading some of the other stuff online after googling "white light droid on," it seems that white light indicator is some sort of charge indicator and that the OS won't show if the battery is less than 5%.
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Yeah your computer USB port does not provide enough power to compensate for the draw you will get off LTE. Your phone will eat much more juice than you are giving it. Leaving the battery out allows the phone to fully discharge any built up charges (ever had this with a laptop? Looks like a bad motherboard but you pull out the battery ans hold the power button down to drain the capacitors and then reinstall the battery and instant boot.) Same thing happening here would be my guess.
Leave the battery out overnight or hold the power button down for about 30 seconds. Put the battery back in and let it charge for awhile. Profit?
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Hello, I first wish to say that I did a basic search and didnt find any info. maybe I searched wrong since this is first time this has happend to a phone I know of.
second I don't have time to do a full extensive search, sorry if it looks like I didnt search but I did.
Anyways here to the problem:
What happend? Well the Note just died. from simple usage. the screen is all black, won't boot at all, can't even see any lights. (Got Desire HD, Tho I don't remember this phone had a charging/signal light, but I believe it has)
The Note is my mothers so she wanted me to look at it.
There were no problems during flash or, rather it wasnt me who flashed it. but got it pre-flashed of tradera (part of ebay) and nothing was wrong besides old rom, was waiting for full drivers ICS since I havn't seen one for the N7000 so I havn't flashed a ICS rom since my mother needs the most support but anyway
I tried taking the battery of and putting it back again (Fixes 90% of my problems!), I tried fail-safe booting it. I am kinda stumped on what to do, so if know whats the problem and if its a cheap one I will be happy to do it. hopefully its not a motherboard replacement... :-( then I will cry...
Edit:
It turns out it started working with 25% battery after being having battery taken out for 1 hour, and was in the wall socketed charger for 7 hours. YAY!
So it just died in middle of using it normally?
You didn't do any wipes or such in recovery and then it didn't start after that?
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I am not sure there is enough detail here to be able to help. But if it does not go to download mode with the usual ways or with a USB jig, then it will need to go to samsung repair centre, or you could try to JTAG first.
But if it is a result of a bad bootloader flash, then JTAG might work. If its due to a bad ICS kernel flash, then motherboard replacement is most likely.
Hope it works out.
First of All, it doesn't have ICS yet. (since i havnt found a good kies ICS yet that everything works on yet, havnt checked the past few weeks)
Second, it died in standby mode, during work when she was gonna take a picture for her work (she has card that allows usage of camera during work place in volvo)
Third, it wasnt during flash or anything. I will have to check the phone with shidapu when he wakes up... ARGH HIM! for not having normal mornings where you wake up around 6 or 7am...
I believe it didn't die during middle of usage but when the phone was in power save or whatever its called when the screen is black and not phone in use but in operations
I guess JTAG is the only option, but how does that work exactly, if possible please do link
because my computer can't even see the note when I am connected to it with USB. can the battery died? since I don't know if the note can be powered up without battery. *tried connecting without battery but no luck :/
Try to remove the battery for a couple of minutes and then insert it again and connect the wall socket charger and wait up to one hour. The Note has a charging animation but if the battery is totally drained i think it won't show directly.
If you having troubles finding another battery to test with you can always come by Astra in Mölndal and try mine as i see that you are living in Gothenburg.
Jtag is a service in that someone solders small cables to the mainboard and reflashes the bootloader on a low level. But this is only if you know that you have failed a flash or such, don't think this is the case here.
I did send a SGS2 to mobiletechvideos in Texas for that service, and i really do recommend them and thier great service.
Good luck.
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Try to remove the battery for a couple of minutes and then insert it again and connect the wall socket charger and wait up to one hour. The Note has a charging animation but if the battery is totally drained i think it won't show directly.
If you having troubles finding another battery to test with you can always come by Astra in Mölndal and try mine as i see that you are living in Gothenburg.
Jtag is a service in that someone solders small cables to the mainboard and reflashes the bootloader on a low level. But this is only if you know that you have failed a flash or such, don't think this is the case here.
I did send a SGS2 to mobiletechvideos in Texas for that service, and i really do recommend them and thier great service.
Good luck.
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if shidapu can't fix it that is (irl mate of Shidapu) he know a bit more than me about Droids
sadly don't have have a extra battery I believe, but I do what you said, I will pull the battery off for now, and when I see the phone next time I will put it in and wait a hour. if all above fail, I might P.M. you that i might be visiting you =)
edit, connected to a wall socket, does it make any differs if I use my HTC wall socket charger?
umm..mind if i say something....?
well u can use any charger since u need to give charge to the battery.. but recommended is charger for note.
Next i had a problem with my battery as well. try to put the phone on charging (there ain't any charging light on this phone ) but you'll see an animation of battery. if it shows up don't worry your phones safe but not the battery but if it doesn't then i think there's some problem with the bootloader or the kernal ...
Hiya guys, after having the Note on charger for like who knows 7 hours or so...
I actually could boot it! YAY! got into the droid as usual.
But there is one wrong thing... it says 25% battery left. orange...
now it says 26% =)
Well I guess I have to reset the state of the battery? (battery-memory wipe or whatever its called?) if thats possible, if so is just simple CWM? (does Note even use CWM?, I am a HTC user and it wasnt me who rooted that device as I mentioned earlier so I dunno what recovery software there is for samsung)
Well Anyways, might be just some faulty battery. guess I have to order a new one if it does it again.
maybe u should take the battery off the phone for a while and try to charge it without booting the device . maybe then it will work fine. just do it three or four times whenever you charge your battery. this way the battery will charge efficiently without it's use on the phone... i hope you got it since i am not able to type well today as i am right now a lil bit anxious about my notes problem
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maybe u should take the battery off the phone for a while and try to charge it without booting the device . maybe then it will work fine. just do it three or four times whenever you charge your battery. this way the battery will charge efficiently without it's use on the phone... i hope you got it since i am not able to type well today as i am right now a lil bit anxious about my notes problem
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I believe i mentioned it started working. Charging it after removed battery for a hour or so fixed it. took a long time tho, 7 hours for 25% full battery. (26% short after, well samsung are known for their extreme long battery load times... galaxy tab 10.1... that was a device that took over 2 hours to charge...)
It might need a new battery.
The same thing happened to my Note yesterday. It was last charged on Saturday and, with light use, after three days it still had around 50% battery charge remaining when I went to bed on Tuesday night. Yesterday (Wednesday) morning I tried to wake the Note and it was completely dead. Of course I did not expect a flat battery, given the usual discharge performance of my Note. I removed and replaced the battery and hit various buttons and absolutely zip. I connected the charger and again no response. Nothing lit, no beep, nothing.
It's probably worth mentioning that I'm on the latest stock Samsung ROM and unrooted. I really thought it was FUBAR and would need to be sent off for repair. Anyway, I do have a jig so I plugged that in and the screen woke up, so I knew there was some sign of life. But still it would not boot.
Anyway, to cut the story short the battery was as dead as a dodo. I don't know why. It should not have been. I left it on charge from the AC charger and after a short while (a minute or two maybe) the charging symbol appeared with a hazard triangle upon it. It took over 4 hours to finally make it to a fully swollen 100%. The phone is almost exactly six months old and this is the first real scare I've had with it.
I only bore you with the tale because it might give hope to people who think their phone is bricked when the fact is that nothing worse has happened than the battery has gone (unexpectedly) very flat. Right now, 27 hours after I finished fully charging it the battery is down to 92%. That's the sort of performance I am used to. I will leave it without further charge for another few days to see if a similar thing happens again. Hopefully not.
yes i know u said that it started working. What i am saying is that whenever u want ur phone to charge switch it off and then charge(this way it will charge efficiently) . just follow it 3-4 time when u charge it and your battery will be on the right track(i hope that works). my note takes upto 1.3 hour (nearly) to charge completely from 10%. and when it's switched off it does the same in 45 minutes... what a difference!!!
try it and if it works for u then this way would be a best alternative to replace battery for charging issue (of course if ur device is still under warranty you should opt for a replacement).
Soo my phone just died and I plugged it into the charger. I left for like 10min came back and it didnt turn on.
I plugged out the charger and put it back in, then the orange like would light up for about 5 seconds then turn back off. Right after that my home, menu, back, and search button would vibrate everytime id touch them.
I tried to take out battery for 5min then insert it back in and turn it on.
Still a blank screen.
Everytime I plug in the charger into the phone. Light would come up, go away, then buttons vibrate.
Anyone have a solution for this problem?
Will be much appreciated! :good:
Funny you ask, my phone did the exact same thing for about 3 days. Was afraid to take it in since it's rooted, however figured it was worth a shot, took it in, let them take a look. They didn't bother checking the phone other than putting in a code to show the battery stats. Declared it was a faulty battery and was still under manufactured warranty so they ordered and shipped me a brand new battery. Matter of fact I just received it today and am now typing from the very same phone. It's just the battery
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Funny you ask, my phone did the exact same thing for about 3 days. Was afraid to take it in since it's rooted, however figured it was worth a shot, took it in, let them take a look. They didn't bother checking the phone other than putting in a code to show the battery stats. Declared it was a faulty battery and was still under manufactured warranty so they ordered and shipped me a brand new battery. Matter of fact I just received it today and am now typing from the very same phone. It's just the battery
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I dont think I have a warrenty. Do you really think its the battery?
One time it successfully turned back on. I cant remember how I did it... lol
Yea its definitely the battery. I left it plugged in alllll day and nothing. It would flash for 10 seconds then turn solid for 5 then turn off. Bottom buttons would have that haptic feedback. But screen wouldn't turn on. I put the new battery in about 3 hours ago after getting off of work (they fed exed) it. And it has worked ever since. P.S. If you have att you are always under the standard manufacturers warranty for one year from purchase date. It doesn't hurt to call and ask or take it in.
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It cant be possible, because ive actually got it turned back on before....
It just seems like everytime my phone dies I have this problem.
and it takes forever to get it to work again..
Well if it's the battery just order an anker battery off amazon. Anker is actually a great company and I have 2 anker batteries right now as spares as well as an external anker power bank for instant charging purposes.
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It cant be possible, because ive actually got it turned back on before....
It just seems like everytime my phone dies I have this problem.
and it takes forever to get it to work again..
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Yea probably the battery. HTC will most likely send you a new one for free if you let them know what's going on. Or just go to your local AT&T/Bell/Rogers/etc store and they'll get you a new battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717766
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479060
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531208
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694017
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769616
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652689
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732268
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754534
EDIT: I have stopped looking for these threads. The more I look, the more I find. If the above threads don't convince you that there is a serious issue with the vivid, then adding more of the same problem will no longer help.
I have added this thread to a growing list of similar threads. Please read the other threads and see if your issues seem familiar.
From what I understand... Don't let your battery run out on this phone. Some Vivids kill batteries.
Solution? None yet.
1. Buy a new battery once a couple of months-ish, until someone figures out why some Vivids are eating batteries. YMMV
*OR*
2. You might invest in a external charger and see if that can bring the "Vivid munched" battery back to life. YMMV
I vote to thread merge the above threads if this proves to be the issue.
I've had my battery die several times with no issues. Of course since I have backup batteries and external chargers I just swap the battery and its all good
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I had a similar problem a couple of months ago. Battery ran out, so I put my phone on the charger. Orange light came on for maybe 3 seconds, then the orange light would continually flash, must have happened all night once and it didn't gain any charge... Every night afterwards for about a week it was doing the same thing, only way I could fix it every time was to alternate battery pulls with unplugging the charger until the orange light stuck on. It took half an hour to get it to stay on sometimes.. But, since I've been using my new battery I've had no problems at all, even with the old battery, I try to circulate batteries all the time.. I'm at a loss as to what's causing my (old) issue. Lol, just remembered something silly and probably unrelated, but I think the problem stopped around the same time my original battery went through the wash.. I know I shouldn't be using it, but it seems to hold charge better as well this is not a recommendation to go out and run batteries through a washing machine cycle though ;-) just saying
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So stupid these batteries. My dad's vivid hasnt had this issue, mine has, it did the exact same thing, I put my battery in his it wouldnt charge, put his in mine, it booted. I bought a new battery. White HTC vivid.
glad I found this thread I am having the same issue on my vivid. I unplug and pull battery but when trying to reboot orange light flashes a couple seconds and I just get feedback from the keys. I got it to work yesterday but I went ahead and turned it off and now I am back to nothing. See if replacing battery works. Do any other HTC batteries work or only ones specific to the vivid?
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Alright, had same problem as the OP and got my phone to turn back on by following these steps:
Plug in the phone, (get the brief orange light / Softkey vibrates) and let sit for about an hour.
Remove phone from charger.
Remove battery from phone.
Wait for about 30 seconds.
Insert battery into phone.
Do *NOT* plug the wall charger back in yet.
Attempt to power on phone.
Mine fired up to the HTC logo, and I was able to plug the charger back in. When it got to the home screen I had 28% battery life, so I'm pretty sure its charging even though its not turning on.
I'm not trying to suggest it isn't a bad battery. Or hardware. Or the universe hating you. I'm just letting you know what worked for me in the hopes it helps someone else.
Also, I haven't had the luxury to try and replicate these steps as a 100% success rate. I'm really not trying to let the phone die completely.
I just posted the same question about this strange thing a few minutes ago, only to realise someone was having similar problems.
I'm located out the US so i'm hoping one these shops have a battery for this phone.
I'm going to try g33mt4z method and try battery pull with the power on and see if that helps cause i have no other alternative for a battery if non is on island and I'll have to order one online
thanks
G
Clockworkmod does not work for power off charging...
Switch to twrp
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Ok guys I think I got it.
What I did was
Take out the battery
Put the batter back in
Plug in the charger
When the light come on hold down Vol down and power button
When phone boots to bootlader choose recovery
you will get white HTC creen, leave phone plugged in for a while 30 mins or so
then while leaving charger plugged in attempt to power phone pn
phone should boot regularly
Finally.... don't let phone battery run down or get external charger or change to twrp as one person suggested.
I'm just glad that I was able to get my phone booted, as I live outside the US can't go to an ATT store and HTC phones aren't the most popular here.
I'm wondering if I should order a battery from Amazon just in case