Ok, ive had the Droid 4 ever since about a week before it came out. Ive rooted, tried out every ROM that is available. I have decided to unroot until i see further development on this device. Anyways, does anyone know if we are going to start seeing any worthwile ROMs popping up, and if this phone was worth rooting? Thanks in advance.
Once the official ICS update comes out, and brings with it the ICS kernel, you wont see anything more then there already is (which in my opinion is pretty good aside from a few issues). You can only do so much when you try to run ICS on a Gingerbread kernel
So basically, its just going to be ICS ROMs? Will there be any ROM ports or anything? And we wont be seeing anything like what is available for htc phones? Sorry, i switched to the droid 4 from droid incredible, so bear with me.
There are rom ports now (CM9, AOKP, Gummy) but they are missing some functionality due to the underlying Gingerbread kernel. Unless they unlock the bootloaders for moto phones, you will never see the same kind of development like you see for HTC phones aka custom kernels and what not. Once official ICS drops though you will start seeing fully functional ICS based roms for the D4 (aka fully working camera and hardware codecs)
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Do we have any of those roms anymore?
Because I had a rom like that a long time ago that wasn't Cyanogen...it was amazing, sold the phone, and now im back to a Captivate again. I'm looking for a rom that is similar to a port from Nexus S. It's happened before, so can i have it again? Looked high and low for those and XDA is like the last forum to have those roms. Now everyone wants 4.0....well the phone isnt made for 4.0...only for 2.3
I dont like touchwiz. just want AOSP 2.3 or 2.2....thats all. Thank you for your help!
Not sure what there is besides CM7. Which is very nice. But I'm sure you could find something by looking/searching in the dev section. And you can't really say this phone isn't meant for ICS. All the hype for ICS is because there is much to be hyped about
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yep, plenty of good 2.3 in the dev section, just read through them.
However I find that, on my three captivates of varying revisions, I get the best performance out of ICS roms.
Battery, on the other hand, I have been struggling with. I prefer WEUI overall, but I cannot get through the day without 2 sometimes 3 charges. So, currently my primary phone is running ICSSGS RC4.2 with UGKG3 modem on the 850 band. With that I can easily go 10+ hours of my normal use without having to worry about it.
all personal opinion, of course
I mean, is the d4 going to be overlooked due to the new razr hype?
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i have faith in the Devs that we will see stuff. Even if at first it is ports from the Razar as the hardware is almost identical. Right now there are a few ROMs that are out, but without the files to factory restore a lot of us are not yet wanting to take the risk of loading custom ROMS.
Thats where i stand. Ive only rooted thus far. I went to motorola without doing my homework. Ive had htc phones in the past and loved the roms available for sense. But when i look at the droid roms it seems they must not be as "popular" as the ones for htc sense. But then again i havent participated in the forum scene enough to research yet.
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Sometimes it just take a little longer for them to come out on Motorola but we do get custom ROMs. Once the recovery files are leaked for the Droid 4 fast boot system then I believe we will start to see many more ROMs.
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I know that the CM9 ICS ROM that hashcode is developing is still in beta stage but honestly that ROM is very stable. I have been using it for over a week testing all the various hardware functions and they all work fine. I was very impressed with it. No major issues with it at all. Just some very minor issues with the software.
whiteout is right.... hashcode's ICS (both CM9 and AOKP) work almost flawlessly for me. I have used both, and they both have everything working, including front facing camera now! with only little bugs here and there that will be worked out shortly.
keep in mind, this phone has only been out for a month, and there are no stock recovery files out there for us if we really eff somthing up.
dont know about you, but i am thrilled with the development so far and LOVING my ICS experience on the droid4.
I know how you feel; this happened to the Droid 2 thanks to the Droid X, but I think it's safe to say that is not the case here. Actually, for there to be a nearly stable ROM for a phone within a month of it being released, is pretty darn awesome! I think the only reason we haven't seen, say, a CM7.1 ROM yet is because everyone is busy working on CM9.
Side note; since we do have all the drivers, is it possible for someone to get CM7.1 compiled for the phone? I suspect this would not take much work for someone who knows what they're doing, and it would be a nice step up from stock for those of us who actually need to keep a stable phone until CM9 is ready.
I really like roms that also add alot of visuals like change the look of the phone
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I can tell you that at the moment we have two good Android ICS roms in the works, I don't know if those will have many visual options.
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blpw said:
Sometimes it just take a little longer for them to come out on Motorola but we do get custom ROMs. Once the recovery files are leaked for the Droid 4 fast boot system then I believe we will start to see many more ROMs.
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I sure hope we get a good stock recovery file soon. I boot-loop bricked my D4 with careless use of Titanium Backup PRO (moving around system Dalvik cache, deleting rather than freezing stock bloat apps, etc.). Since factory resetting hasn't help, I assume I've trashed the system core and need to reflash from stock... which I guess hasn't been released yet. Sigh.
I just got my Droid 4 a few days ago, and quickly tried the ICS/CM9 ROM, and while it still has some kinks to work out, it definatly has a strong following, and Im sure we will get more things in the future.
My wife has Motorola Milestone that of course is no longer updated so it is stuck on 2.1, and recently it has started acting slow and freezing frequently, as well as more and more of the apps that she wants require 2.2. So I am looking to root and update so she can have a fresh start (I am sure some of the freezing will be resolved by cleaning the slate), enjoy the features of a newer kernel, and be able to get the apps she wants. I do have experience with ROMs (flashed a lot of ROMs to my old HTC Touch Pro, and even made a couple myself), so I doubt I will have any issue there.
My question, as the title states, is which is the best ROM for her? She definitely likes having cutting edge technology, but needs it to be stable. Or rather, I do, since I will be the one that has to fix any problems I would prefer that I don't have to reboot or reflash it every other day. Once or twice a month for an update is fine, maybe once a week if the ROM is bleeding edge but stable. I have looked at the new Cyanogen Mod 9 with ICS, but not sure if that is stable enough, so any input on that is appreciated.
Things to keep in mind:
1. This phone is from a smaller carrier (Nex-tech wireless)
2. This phone IS NOT active, i.e. it doesn't connect to a mobile data connection or a cellular tower. It uses wi-fi and is basically a portable computer for her (switched to an old non-smart phone to cut costs while we save up to switch to a new carrier when our contract is up)
If there are any other things that might help in picking a good ROM for her let me know so I can tell you.
Thanks!
I would personally recommend MIUI, if only I'm not having trouble with it messing up my Recovery.
and idk what u mean by the Milestone is stuck on 2.1. It can be updated to 2.2 officially.
To me, the most stable rom I've ever used is CM7 version 7.1.3 by HOHO Tho there are newer version, but to me, the latest version has black screen issues.
Thanks for the reply. I am actually in the US, so apparently even though my carrier distubutes it as a Milestone, it runs as a Droid. I have a small regional carrier that uses custom software, and it stopped updating it at 2.1. I was able to get it rooted and ended up using Cyanogen 7, so my wife is happily testing out android 2.3.1
I've run at least 30 different roms on my droid over the last three years and I can tell you hands down that peter's bugless beast wins hands down.
http://www.peteralfonso.com/2011/10/download-bugless-beast-v-gpa19-android.html
Stripped down, no bloat ASOP looks like the real rom and is fast as hell. I was able to run at 1300mhz no other rom has allowed me to go past 1200mhz without reboots/slowdowns.
Pete is the king of the OG Droid.
I run Steel Droid 10
After bricking My Droid 3 I had to literally dust off and charge up my OG Droid that's been sitting for over a year, did a clean install and I am in love with it my OG droid like I was the day it came out
he has milestone, not droid.
HONO is the stablest I've ever tried..
but this phone has some real issues with his locked boot loader,
so he freezes ALLOT no matter what..
I would recommend Cyanogenmod 7.1. That's android 2.3.7. Very stable. Working great on my Original Droid. I don't think the Milestone or the Droid have the hardware to run ICS.
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There is CM9 for the Milestone by kabaldan on here and there is UltimateICS I have CM9 installed and it runs ok the only problem I personally have is the limited space means I can't install the apps I had installed when I was using CM7.2.
Also UltimateICS was fast but it didn't work on my Milestone as I couldn't receive calls.
oshosh said:
he has milestone, not droid.
HONO is the stablest I've ever tried..
but this phone has some real issues with his locked boot loader,
so he freezes ALLOT no matter what..
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He has a CDMA version of the droid. They are called milestones by most of the carriers. It's the A855 I believe.
Anyways. Bugless beast is good if you want a ROM as close to stock as possible. Chevyno1' Simply Stunning 5.6 is a good Gingerbread rom and Chevy's Steel Droid is another really good gingerbread ROM. Chevy is also one of the few still developing for the original droid.
Peter Alfonso has probably some of the best kernels on his site for the droid. Very stable and lightweight. You may have to try a few of them until you find the right one for the phone. Each of these phones is different when it comes to the kernel. My phone I can't clock over 1000 or starts to boot loop. My wifes phone I can crank up to 1200 without an issue and it runs cooler then mine at 1000. Go figure.
I would also look up raidzero's rz recovery for the droid. It makes installing roms a snap.
Here is the thread I refered to when I rooted my phone. Download superuser before you start the root process. makes it easier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764470&highlight=z4root
Also a quick item. To get into recovery after you root turn the phone off. Hold down the x key as you are turning it on. release the x key when the M logo appears. this is helpful if you wind up in a boot loop.
Cm9 worked really good but if your wife isn't techy and wants a fast rom and good battery I would say cm6
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I have the droid3, thinking about getting the droid4. I see that ICS has leaked, why don't the custom ROMs have full function yet then ?
There are a few reasons:
The leaked ICS builds have only been out for about a week.
The primary Droid 4 AOSP developers (i.e. Hashcode) work on ROMs for multiple devices and only have so much time.
The current ICS ROMs are based on the D4 Gingerbread kernel. There is a new kernel in the leaked ICS builds and the ROMs will likely have to be modified accordingly.
cool man thanks. you think it will be updated fully soon ? are there any major hurdles that would have to be jumped?
Hash code is working on a d4 ics version of safe strap as well as an improved ics rom. I am not sure on the specifics of which one or if its going to be all or a totally new rom based on the leaks. the big difference is everything will work, hardware acceleration, face unlock and basically what does not work in the current roms. I would say in about a week or less we should start to see the ics based roms getting pumped out.
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yeaaa awesome. Hash is the best furreal aha. If he makes all the features i know the AOKP rom (fully functional) will be made by someone eventually. thanks for all your help
I would totally upgrade. I had both as well. Screen is better. Keyboard is better. Form factor is better. And it is getting official ics
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I just recently upgraded to the Droid 4 from the Droid 3. It looks and feels better in the hand though there is allot of extra bessel which is kinda annoying (atleast to me) to look at.
Though the new keyboard is sweet, the new shift posistion still messes me up. Plus it's going to be supported more than the Droid 3 because it has 1 gig of ram (official ICS ) and it's 4G (So verizon approves)
4G has been great, so has been playing games. Haven't tried the GPS yet.
So yeah, its worth the upgrade.
Hey everybody,
Just curious what the development scene looked like for the D4? I need a qwerty keyboard and I'm currently on the D2 with the new update so I no longer have root or ICS which means I'm looking to move on to the latest of the qwerty droid family. However I don't want to get something and find that nobody is working on anything for it, since ultimately I'd like to end up with some version of JB on my phone, I figure since the devs have been able to get ICS onto it that it won't take that much more of an effort to get JB onto it. Is this true or am I just blowing hot air?
I really loved the D4 when I went to mess around with it at the store and will most likely end up getting it since my D2 is at the end of it's life but I figured it get a feel for what the dev scene looked like for the D4.
Cheers!
hockeyhead019 said:
Hey everybody,
Just curious what the development scene looked like for the D4? I need a qwerty keyboard and I'm currently on the D2 with the new update so I no longer have root or ICS which means I'm looking to move on to the latest of the qwerty droid family. However I don't want to get something and find that nobody is working on anything for it, since ultimately I'd like to end up with some version of JB on my phone, I figure since the devs have been able to get ICS onto it that it won't take that much more of an effort to get JB onto it. Is this true or am I just blowing hot air?
I really loved the D4 when I went to mess around with it at the store and will most likely end up getting it since my D2 is at the end of it's life but I figured it get a feel for what the dev scene looked like for the D4.
Cheers!
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Phone has a locked bootloader, which means less dev. Current leaks of ICS work well. Easy enough to root and debloat. Plus Moto was tasteful on the their tweaks to ICS, for the most part it's stock. If your a flash-a-hollic though this is probably not the phone for you as the device has been out for some time and has little support here.
I'm not sure it's quite as bleak as all that. I agree that this is probably not the phone for flashaholics. There is not a ton of dev support but there is some. The ICS leaks pulled from Moto are surprisingly nice. Blur is kept to a minimum and bloat can be easily frozen if not removed. The ICS ROMs based off of the stock GB kernel are a little rough due to trying to run off of a GB kernel. The ICS ROMS built off of the leaked ICS builds are coming along nicely however. The data issues present on the GB builds are all but gone. We have both CM9 and AOKP ports built off the ICS leak and hopefully we'll see a Gummy port based off the leak as well. I too am hoping we'll eventually see a JB build but it's awfully early to be speculating on that. My hope is that, at the least, we'll see working JB builds running off our ICS kernel. Since JB is not a complete overhaul like going from GB to ICS I am hopeful such a build would run well without the same issues we saw running ICS on the GB kernel.
do you think if the Razr gets the JB update, would the Droid 4 get it then?
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I'm not sure it's quite as bleak as all that. I agree that this is probably not the phone for flashaholics. There is not a ton of dev support but there is some. The ICS leaks pulled from Moto are surprisingly nice. Blur is kept to a minimum and bloat can be easily frozen if not removed. The ICS ROMs based off of the stock GB kernel are a little rough due to trying to run off of a GB kernel. The ICS ROMS built off of the leaked ICS builds are coming along nicely however. The data issues present on the GB builds are all but gone. We have both CM9 and AOKP ports built off the ICS leak and hopefully we'll see a Gummy port based off the leak as well. I too am hoping we'll eventually see a JB build but it's awfully early to be speculating on that. My hope is that, at the least, we'll see working JB builds running off our ICS kernel. Since JB is not a complete overhaul like going from GB to ICS I am hopeful such a build would run well without the same issues we saw running ICS on the GB kernel.
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Not quite sure why you would use bleak in response to either the OP's post or mine, and then proceed to mutter the same things I said afterwards.
Thanks guys, hopefully we'll see a JB port that runs on the ICS kernel
Whatever happened to the kexec exploit? My understanding was people were just waiting for the source of the ICS kernel to drop.
Once that happens, we can do pretty much anything we want