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Why run a custom ROM?

I'm sure I'm setting myself up here, but what advantages are there to the custom ROMs at this point?
I'm running stock Froyo 2.2 (I did update the radio to 5.08, though), stock bootloader, and I'm not rooted. I'm on T-Mobile in the Tampa, FL area.
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, or just because most people that are posting on XDA are running custom ROMs, but I don't really have ANY of the problems most people on here have. My battery life is great, and the phone is overall VERY stable. I've tried other launchers, themes, etc., but I always prefer the stability of the stock setup over aesthetics.
The few issues I have had I can attribute to poorly written apps (force closes, battery vampires), or known hardware problems (mediocre 3G connectivity at times, etc).
I can understand if you have a phone like the MyTouch that never got any official updates after 1.6, or you want to try the next leaked software on your phone. But the Nexus One has had tons of official support and updates up to this point. Before Froyo was officially released, I found myself better off with stock recovery to load the latest, greatest Froyo build.
Sorry for the rambling, but I would greatly appreciate any education I can get on what's packed into these custom ROMs that everyone gets so excited about.
THANKS!

Don't really feel like typing all the reasons haha, but there's a lot of stuff to enjoy with custom roms. If stock works for you that's great. I don't know anyone that's ever gone custom and wanted to go back but I'm sure it happens. End of the day it's whatever makes you happy. A lot of us want more than just a great experience, we want to see what's possible. You can view the changelog for the latest Cyanogenmod(most popular custom ROM) build here http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/froyo/CHANGELOG.mkdn

1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
2. Removing the stock apps from the phone that you don't use or want. Why have them sitting there taking up space and potentially resources for no reason? Sure they don't take up much in terms of storage space, but if you use a lot of apps, every little bit counts.
3. Undervolting and over/underclocking. Get that extra little performance boost, or cut it back. When I was UV'd to 800mV and UC'd to 806mhz, I noticed no performance difference or problems (note: I don't play 3d games on my phone) and my battery life was insane. 24 hours of normal use would put me to 65% give or take.
4. Relating to number one, more control over other things. I've ripped stock, but customized, apps from random ROMs and pushed them to my phone. Black Facebook & Twitter widgets (white ones are ugly), darkened (black & dark grey) stock messaging interface with white text, etc.
5. Trackball Alert Pro.
I'm sure that others can add more, but the above are the main reasons I rooted mine.

A tiny little thing called Apps2SD+, for example.
Multiple audio/video decoder support.
Lots of Linux binaries bundled.
Lots of modifications to stock software (contacts, browser) that increase their usefulness (for example, do you really like to type "about:debug" each time you want to change browser client after reboot?).
etc etc.

Thanks for all the great info.
The underclocking sounds interesting. I don't play any games on my phone, and extra battery life is always nice.
I'm not too interested in customizing the appearance too much. Coming from an iPhone, I'm pretty happy with the looks of the stock Froyo UI compared to that.
Again, thanks for the time you guys took to give me some information. I greatly appreciate it!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Ryjabo said:
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
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5. Trackball Alert Pro.
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This was reason #1 and 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 for me, respectively

Track ball skip song.. Enough said.

If I install a custom ROM, when a new one comes out, do I have to install the ROM from the start and I loose my setings etc. or do I just update it?

Depends on the ROM maker. Most make their ROMs backwards-compatible, so you can upgrade. Going between different makers' ROMs you mostly need to wipe and start fresh (though there are apps that can back up and restore pretty much everything).

I am thinking to try Cyanogenmod ROM, bot I don't wan't to cofigurate all the things when a new ROM comes out.

Clarifying about Roms and what is the best?

First of all, Sorry! I know this question was asked like billion times over and over, and the amount of opinions is equal to the amount of the people who comment, but still.
Currently I'm running stock deodexed XXJVO ROM with CF-Root kernel.
The phone never was stable 100%, but the last days are horrible. Waze stuck (need hard reboot), phone turns off at night (=I dont have alarm clock = I late to work), it FCs and/or reboots randomly.
Now I want to get clear about the ROMs. There are 2 kind of them:
1. ROMs based on stock Samsung roms
2. ROMs based on Googles roms (like miui and CM)
Am I right?
Right now I don't have time nor the interest to play with really custom roms (miui/cm) since I'm not sure how stable they are (am I wrong about their stability?).
I just need phone that calls, surfs the web, sends sms, take photos, records videos and allows me to use GPS for navigation while I drive. For this reason I prefer to go with the roms based on stock Samsung roms (again correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe roms like MIUI/CM are stable enough for day-day use without flashing and reflashing the nightly every few days).
I need suggestion for either full ROM or combination of ROM and Kernel that will unleash the full potential of my phone with the minimum lags/FCs/reboots/etc.
From fast reading here I understood that Semaphore kernel is good enough (of course any other suggestions are welcomed). What do you think about combining it with stock deodexed ROM? Or maybe you have other more preferable ROMS (I don't have any preference to specific rom, however there are some things I can't live without and they are: a) NON increasing ringtone b) preferably root c) Ability to theme the phone, All other fixes/tweaks are optional and are in state of "nice to have").
Thanks a lot for reading this long posts, understand me and helping!
Have a good day and an awesome weekend!

I think you should try stock jvu and latest Semaphore kernel.
And convert to ext4.
That's fast enough.
BTW MIUI and CM7 are very fast and stable.
**tapatalked with galaxy s on CNA and Glitch kernel**

Flash mint berry miui, it's fast and will fit your requirements

Thanks for the replies!
dark_knight35
Stock JVU you mean stock, or stock and deodexed?
Should I bother and try MIUI/CM? (As I understood there is also ICS ROMs, what are those?)
hassaan123
Thanks, Ill consider this. Tough I'm a bit afraid about MIUI/CM since those are different ROMs.
More comments are welcomed!

Team ICSSGS RC4.2 the best for we till now

i wouldnt prefer miui/cm for gps. i used mintberry for 2 months but after the first weeks of pure stabilty it began to random reboot more than twice a day. reflash, new version everytime the same.
the ram management was also horrible in my eyes. i dont really like the cm kernels. they are updated too fast and it seems that they are never really stable for some reason. my battery life was horrible on miui. also annoying is that you always has to clear your memory manually before you want to play a game which isnt even in 3D. plus 720p is always choppy because they want to use more ram which is taken from the reserved memory for video recording. ah the compass isnt working too sometimes... depends on kernel but i didnt find a kernel which works
i am back on darky 10.4.2 with semaphore kernel. darkcore is also very good kernel with good stabilty and battery but i dont use it because i need voodoo color for my display...
especially for you skwo i would prefer the base versions from darky. they are kinda pure samsung with some tweaks and then you can try the dark core which is brought with and if you dont like it switch to semaphore. the standart theme is also very decent and if you dont like you can still customize your phone with the ota app such as things like camera hack (that annoying under 10% thingy that doesnt let you use your cam) or the exteneded toggepanel.
i understand good what you want. i mean its really cool to have such a great community which is working on so much roms but they are too heavy customized sometimes. everything seems so overloaded and the most skins doesnt fit with they own colors they use. i mean there are so much ics themed roms but with 15 different blue tones, that doesnt look "professional" and make android look like a bad designed mess

Kodon
Thanks a lot for this helpful reply!
I heard the same about MIUI/CM/ICS ROMs, that they lack 720p video recording (which is sort of important to me), and how some issues with GPS, and not stable enough.
Yea I tried darky once, didn't like it. I consider trying it again (with maybe different kernel).
The theme is not that important to me, I just put some AOSP theme that adds the battery percentage indicator. I used to play with the phone few months ago (was a ROM hopper and liked to customize it), these days I'm too busy for all this and just need a smart-phone that works.

skwo said:
Thanks for the replies!
dark_knight35
Stock JVU you mean stock, or stock and deodexed?
Should I bother and try MIUI/CM? (As I understood there is also ICS ROMs, what are those?)
hassaan123
Thanks, Ill consider this. Tough I'm a bit afraid about MIUI/CM since those are different ROMs.
More comments are welcomed!
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You can try Faryaab's jvu (deodexed&rooted). It's hear in general section.
I think a jvu/cm9/miui rom is better for you than ics, coz they are bit buggy.
**tapatalked with galaxy s on CNA and Glitch kernel**

CM7 battery life is not good and call is not stable like rock.
MIUI battery life is better than CM7 but is not good. Call is rock
MIUI / CM7 video recording 720P is sucks. (temp fix = Change bit rate to 1000000)
ICS video playback is bad and some apps will not work or FC. (still on development)
Stock battery is good / call is stable / video playback and 720 recoding is good / but speed is low.
There is not a BEST ROM for all things.
If u can be happy with low speed stocks are awesome.
Best way: Try one to one all ROMs and choose the best for self needs.

Vogie said:
CM7 battery life is not good and call is not stable like rock.
MIUI battery life is better than CM7 but is not good. Call is rock
MIUI / CM7 video recording 720P is sucks. (temp fix = Change bit rate to 1000000)
ICS video playback is bad and some apps will not work or FC. (still on development)
Stock battery is good / call is stable / video playback and 720 recoding is good / but speed is low.
There is not a BEST ROM for all things.
If u can be happy with low speed stocks are awesome.
Best way: Try one to one all ROMs and choose the best for self needs.
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if you try every rom for sgs you are busy for the next 2 years. the most roms are in the first week very good till every app fills their cache and the partition is getting fragmented. the only method in my eyes to see if a rom is good is to use it for 3-4 weeks. even the battery does need 2-3 loading cycles which can take 4-5 days if the battery use is good and you want to see how it works when its recalibrated after flash.
especially we galaxy s users need to see others opinion in a thread like that. you really cant go through every thread and search for feedback between the whole bug reports and advices for bootloops

I can't decide between stock XXJVU (also not sure if I want the deodexed one) or DarkyRom or some other simple ROM that based on JVU (like SauroM). Any suggestions?

Go for stock jvu, odexed, add andip's theme, remove bloatware, use go launcher with ics theme, semaphore kernel 2.5.0 with ext4
Doesn't get any better than this
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Thanks a lot! Going to flash

Why so many post ?
Try MIUI (mintberry is very good) and revert to stock rom if you aren't happy.
MIUI has a lot of new things : it's not only the launcher and themes; Miui based on Ginger is stable. I try regulary to return to stock rom and every time I reflash an MIUI, too many things are missing on stock roms or CM7 !

Custom stock ROM comparisons?

Hi. Can anybody who flashes regularly give me a brief comparison of the current versions of dmod, benzrom and enox? Pros cons etc.
Is this kind of topic allowed? They all contain init.d and build prop tweaks etc, I want to know about smoothness, ram, bugs, user opinions etc.
Any brief summaries are welcome and of course if somebody wants to give me a long read I'd be happy to and discuss
P.S. Keep it cool, clean and fair?
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2

all of them are buggy ****, ****ty (not even working) unoptimized init.d causing problems, deodexed ****holes driving down the performance noticeably. battery life is ****ing horrible exept enox revenge, but enox also contains problems in non working widgets etc. (hope v5.0 is usable).
benz => ****ing ****ty bull**** ugly interface buggy options etc
dmod=> ****ty nonworking init.d, ugly interface, battery drainage by failed debloat
enox => its decent but nonworking widgets, failed debloating, slowed down cuz deodex, and fail init.d, this is the only rom having potential to develop to best rom, and better than rooted stock etc
rooted stock is the god tier option until theres fully working CM / PAC / AOSP ? or one of the roms gets really better (benz, enox, dmod).
peace. just the facts.

zetazeta2 said:
all of them are buggy ****, ****ty (not even working) unoptimized init.d causing problems, deodexed ****holes driving down the performance noticeably. battery life is ****ing horrible exept enox revenge, but enox also contains problems in non working widgets etc. (hope v5.0 is usable).
benz => ****ing ****ty bull**** ugly interface buggy options etc
dmod=> ****ty nonworking init.d, ugly interface, battery drainage by failed debloat
enox => its decent but nonworking widgets, failed debloating, slowed down cuz deodex, and fail init.d, this is the only rom having potential to develop to best rom, and better than rooted stock etc
rooted stock is the god tier option until theres fully working CM / PAC / AOSP ? or one of the roms gets really better (benz, enox, dmod).
peace. just the facts.
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actually dmod is one of best roms here , i'm using it and everything works , init.d also working , and where you seen "ugly interface"? i found it excellent and is same interface like standard stock ( almost ) use a launcher and you will get off ( nova launcher prime ) , and about battery it keeps me up 3 days even with wifi on use a prompt apps to set your phone ( du battery saver - set it to airplane mode during night so you can save some battery ) otherwise everything is excelent and is moving fast ,flawless not even freezes .

Well I wanted to keep it clean but I enjoyed the responses so far (om a natural pessimist) and you're roughly both correct. Deodex degrades overall performance and the debloats are mostly failed (always re-debloat them myself after installation), init.d tweaks have caused me problems.. Although I don't mind the user interfaces I am starting to think rooted stock is the best option unless somebody makes a real barebones option...
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BenzROM lots of useful features however i find that some are more than what I need
DmonROM nice look and feel, just a bit of a heavy ROM not suited to my requirements
enoxROM nice look and feel, could do with a few more tweaks and features
barebones ROM is what i was aiming for with my FaustROM, which ended up being a bit of a fail so have not done any additional work on it
instead have done a mod/port of the enox ROM which I have used some of the apks but used most of the other stuff from my original FaustROM
i get decent battery time, decent performance playing games like FF6 and Iron Man 3 without any lag

Bad development :-- Android 4.3

How many people Don't like android 4.3 please tell to Sony
1.Consuming too much power and affecting battery life.
2.Scrolling is very noisy so need too much repolish user interface.Project butter isn't works. Every application is not smooth e.g - in clock move from world clock to timer breaks, home screen, gallery, slide show is bad.
3.Some applications run in background always live in notification bar eg - Uc Web background download always shows in notification bar "Uc Web is running tap to more information "
4. Bugs with Blutooth, wifi, nfc
5. With this operating system applications run problematic not perfectly like chrome
6. Old camera UI was excellent - excellent..look and functionality.New UI looks very very bad and decreased quality.
7.Problem with video recording.
8. New Keyboard app is very very bad We want old keyboard.
9. Ram management is bad.

jagratjoshi said:
How many people Don't like android 4.3 please tell to Sony
1.Consuming too much power and affecting battery life.
2.Scrolling is very noisy so need too much repolish user interface.Project butter isn't works. Every application is not smooth e.g - in clock move from world clock to timer breaks, home screen, gallery, slide show is bad.
3.Some applications run in background always live in notification bar eg - Uc Web background download always shows in notification bar "Uc Web is running tap to more information "
4. Bugs with Blutooth, wifi, nfc
5. With this operating system applications run problematic not perfectly like chrome
6. Old camera UI was excellent - excellent..look and functionality.New UI looks very very bad and decreased quality.
7.Problem with video recording.
8. New Keyboard app is very very bad We want old keyboard.
9. Ram management is bad.
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Dude..!! Y don't u just downgrade it and forget it..
None of your above stated problems is being faced (atleast by me)
A cure for you ---- To fix it, Read it.. Just don't Post it, to Blame it.. Got it?
De-bloat/ Kill apps u don't use or never ever use. Battery life on 4.3 is insane runs all day for me with 20-25% drainage (average call, texts, emails on exchange) no issues at all. (Root it / Calibrate the battery for actual reading). Project butter does what it is suppose to. No lags at all. U need Lag Fix. Use Adblocker kill stupid apps delete system apps (only if u r aware of what u r deleting).
No bugs at all with Bluetooth/ wifi or NFC I use all of them in daily life and works like a charm. In other words now I can skype on wifi instead on 4g LTE (on my BB Q10) on 4.2.2 I faced too many problems. Chrome was recently updated and stable now.
For the rest release your stress and go for a different device.
I believe in -
"If u own it, u can control it"
Good Luck!

shysparrow said:
Dude..!! Y don't u just downgrade it and forget it..
For your kind information I wanna tell you that according Sony new policy customer service can't downgrade os and I now want to root my phone.
None of your above stated problems is being faced (atleast by
A cure for you ---- To fix it, Read it.. Just don't Post it, to Blame it.. Got it?
De-bloat/ Kill apps u don't use or never ever use. Battery life on 4.3 is insane runs all day for me with 20-25% drainage (average call, texts, emails on exchange) no issues at all. (Root it / Calibrate the battery for actual reading). Project butter does what it is suppose to. No lags at all. U need Lag Fix. Use Adblocker kill stupid apps delete system apps (only if u r aware of what u r deleting).
No bugs at all with Bluetooth/ wifi or NFC I use all of them in daily life and works like a charm. In other words now I can skype on wifi instead on 4g LTE (on my BB Q10) on 4.2.2 I faced too many problems. Chrome was recently updated and stable now.
For the rest release your stress and go for a different device.
I believe in -
"If u own it, u can control it"
Good Luck!
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Hey dude I for your kind information I wanna tell you that according Sony new policy a phone can't be downgrade even on Sony care and I not want root it

Use flash tool to downgrade it, u won't need to root it.
Sent from my C5502 using xda app-developers app

Before going back to 4.2 try to flash again 4.3 because you are the only one who experience problems.

[Q] What should I do with my HTC One ?

Hi,
I'll receive my HTC One soon and I don't know what kernel and rom install...I have read many subject about it but it still be confuse in my mind and I don't want to spend a lot of time trying every kernel and rom. If you could help me to choose a kernel and rom (even the stock one it doesn't matter), it would be very nice.
Here is what i expect from my phone (from the most important) :
1 - Stability
2 - Autonomy
3 - Ergonomy (for exemple having very fast and accessible settings)
4 - Performance
And if possible, I'd like to (but this point must not counter the two first points) :
- Activate the HTC logo to lock and unlock screen OR lock and unlock via the tactil screen or gyroscope (with movment)
So, wich kernel and wich rom for my use ?
Pardon my english, I hope you got what I meaned and thank by advance!

I would simply stay on stock rom for best stability. the second best alternative would be to get s-off and convert your sense htc one into a GPE, for faster update cycle.
either way, you'd want with both a custom kernel such as elementalx for dt2w etc. for further customization you might want xposed + mods such as gravity box and others. for now however xposed doesn't support art runtime (some say art is much faster than dalvik, but myself didn't find it any more performant )
good luck
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

Rom comparison threads are not allowed. People prefer different roms for many different reasons, so no one rom is best for everyone.
I'd stay stock for a while, but to the dev section and read up on some of the ROM threads. then when you are ready to flash, you can try out the ones that interest you and see which ones you like.

As Stated It is all user choice. What may work for me may not work for you. I also advise you to stay stock for a while and do some reading. Re-writting the OS on your device is not something to be taken lightly. You could end up with a paper weight that is nothing more then a skipping stone. Do you research and put he time into it and you will save yourself alot of grey hair and heart ache.