Hello.. I just wonder if anyone else is having this problem. Supposedly you selected 'Settings' with your S-pen and started scrolling up and down the menu "Wireless and Network, Call, Sound, Display.... At some point, even if u were scrolling, the S-pen will mistakenly select one of the menus. This is quite irritating. In other words, whenever I perform a scrolling motion with my S-pen, the phone will think that I have selected one of the choices the moment my pen touches the screen. (very irritating, because i am not pinpointing a spot with the S-pen, but I was scrolling/making vertical motion with my S-pen).
Does anyone have this problem? I have also noticed the only way to prevent accidental selection while scrolling menus is by making a scrolling motion with the S-pen very quickly. This way, none of the menu will get highlighted. Anyone can help?
I would like to add a few observations to my original post above too. Besides the problems with the menus, I noticed the problems with Adobe Reader+S pen. With adobe Reader, pressing on a point with S-pen brings up Adobe reader menu. Tapping twice with S-pen will result in zooming in.
However, this is the problem. I could scroll with my S-pen in adobe reader (just like using finger). But after scrolling some pages with S-pen, the page will start zooming in!! A few scrolls with the S-pen up the pages, will cause it to zoom out. That means instead of the scrolling motion with the S-pen, my phone thought that i had tapped twice...and hence the "zooming in" in Adobe Reader.
anyone with similar problem?
After finding out the cause, I now can fully understand every symptom described above. The unwanted zooming in adobe reader, the unwanted selection while scrolling with s pen. the explanation can be found with the attached image.
Basically I decided to open S memo and started to make scrolling motions with my S pen, just as I normally would with a scrollable menu. And here is what I found. With a total of about 20 strokes, about 2 strokes were broken. Each of these broken strokes has a missing portion. The missing portion begins shortly after the initial length of the registered stroke. The attached picture shows 2 broken strokes. Each broken stroke has a "small dot". The small dot is part of a stroke.
For simpler explanation, I would use the head, body and tail analogy. The fully registered stroke has all 3parts. A broken stroke as in my case has a head, a tail but a missing body. This explains why my phone had randomly made an unwanted selection while I was scrolling the menu. The unwanted selection was due to the detection of the early part of the stroke(THE DOT) with the subsequently missing part halfway through the entire same stroke. In adobe reader, this broken stroke would be interpreted as a zoom because it resembles 2 fingers spreading to zoom in.
for those who have this same problem, please reply. For those who do not, please try to scroll the menu with your s pen by using light strokes only and hopefully kindly report your findings. Anyone with a fix, please help. Thanks.
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Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool
Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!
What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !
Just give it a small kick upwards
Dont let this topic die?
I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?
I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur
Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.
YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss
Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!
A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur
Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.
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This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur
i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.
I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!
CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.
While tinkering with google map's I noticed that the screen seems to respons to 2 seperate points? give it a try for yourself. I used my finger to move side to side and the pointer to move up and down, this worked together and independantly on my phone. If this is the case can we see software to support this function such as image resize and so on?????
P.S. a couple of other things to try.....
Hold volume up button and press the action button (this brings up the screen calibation)
I think this has been mentioned before but there is a easteregg in the weather screen
If you tap on the dark bar that says weather near the side Left then Right it run's a demo of the various animations.
I don't think it's multi touch, it just finds the mean of the two points you press. It's the same if you use two fingers in some touch pads at laptops. Try this and you may understand what I'm talking about. Start google maps and touch the left part of the screen. While keeping your finger down, touch the right part and see when happens. With both fingers down, release the left finger and see what happens. This is due to the way the touch screen works, but it's definitely not multitouch.
Good tips for the screen calibration and the animations demo (although it doesn't show all animations - I didn't see the fog animation )
I have been searching for two days for a Photo Viewer app for Android 1.6 that has kinetic scrolling for albums.
Astro file manager has a built-in photo viewer that has a thumbnail ribbon at the bottom that works with kinetic scrolling action. And that is way cool, but I want to be able to scroll the full-size photos as well.
I think a couple of years ago the first-gen iPhones had this feature in their album viewer, may be wrong about that.
I have a G-1 and a MT3G that I would like to be able to view albums with a feature like this.
Would appreciate if anyone could point me in the right directions.
Has anyone seen anything like this? I found a version of HTCLay CSDI I think that has a cube that opens the gallery in a sort of kinetic preview, and it's the closest I've found so far. But it's not fullscreen.
Can someone help me out with this? Maybe mention if I'm on the right track, or if I need to be looking for something completely different?
One of the guys at work was showing off pictures on a larger device with gorgeous kinetic scrolling. I had severe envy yesterday.
What photo viewer app are you using?
Never really felt the need for anything like this. By "Kinetic" & "ribbon" you mean it shows them side-by-side at the bottom? I use Astro, and I love the photo viewer in it, but when I'm just looking at pictures, Gallery always does the job for me.
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Never really felt the need for anything like this. By "Kinetic" & "ribbon" you mean it shows them side-by-side at the bottom? I use Astro, and I love the photo viewer in it, but when I'm just looking at pictures, Gallery always does the job for me.
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Astro has the ribbon at the bottom. 'Kinetic' is a term to describe the scrolling effect that you swipe across a field with your finger and it moves, and keeps on moving depending on how hard you swiped.
If you open a picture in a folder with multiple images with Astro, you can see the contents of the folder in the ribbon at the bottom of the current picture. If you don't see the ribbon, just touch at the bottom of the screen and it appears. Swipe on the ribbon and it will move with the 'Kinetic' effect.
It moves faster and for a longer time depending on how hard you swiped it. This allows you to move through the contents of a folder rapidly, which is especially useful for large folders.
Astro does allow you to swipe the actual full-screen image as well, but not 'Kineticly'. No matter how hard you swipe, the image just moves one at a time.
I'm looking for an application that allows Kineticly swiping the full screen image to move throught the pictures rapidly.
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Astro has the ribbon at the bottom. 'Kinetic' is a term to describe the scrolling effect that you swipe across a field with your finger and it moves, and keeps on moving depending on how hard you swiped.
If you open a picture in a folder with multiple images with Astro, you can see the contents of the folder in the ribbon at the bottom of the current picture. If you don't see the ribbon, just touch at the bottom of the screen and it appears. Swipe on the ribbon and it will move with the 'Kinetic' effect.
It moves faster and for a longer time depending on how hard you swiped it. This allows you to move through the contents of a folder rapidly, which is especially useful for large folders.
Astro does allow you to swipe the actual full-screen image as well, but not 'Kineticly'. No matter how hard you swipe, the image just moves one at a time.
I'm looking for an application that allows Kineticly swiping the full screen image to move throught the pictures rapidly.
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OHHHH! I see what you're saying now.
No idea. I think most Eclair ROMs do this in the default gallery, but I'm not sure. Other than that I wouldn't know anything, sorry.
Flashed CM5 test 3. NICE Gallery in there.
Kinetic album thumbnails, Nice swiping on the fullscreen photos.
I'm happy now.
search photo slide in the market
Is there in the market some app that work's like a real handbook?
What i mean is that i don't need to change page to continue writing, the app it self goes down as i continue.
Can some help
Also looking for a notebook app like this.. anyone has any ideas? =)
One that automatically scrolls left/right/up/down when you reach the end of the zoomed part so you wont have to click or drag someplace else like lecturenotes and anitpaper notes does?
Lecturenotes is pretty great but I'm planning on using it for college, and it takes a while switching from pen to hand tool, drag, then back to pen tool then same process for only a couple of words..
FreeNote has something like this, although far from perfect - in one of the input modes, letters drawn in the lower part of screen are reduced and put in regular note's lines at top, each time when you get to edge of screen while writing you have to pause for a millisecond, then the input area moves and you can continue writing the line until it's end, then press newline icon and start next one so on and so on...
@alsseja: I am glad to hear that you like LectureNotes. However, there is no need to change to `hand´ mode for scrolling, the app comes with several better ways to move the page: In case you use stylus hardware or software detection or save zone, you can enabled one and/or two finger scrolling and zooming in all modes. Additionally, you can use the `arrow´ icon (hidden by default), the volume keys of your device, or a connected mouse to advance the page by an adjustable amount, plus a `page forward´ icon (hidden by default) to advance by one page. Last but not least, the app has an auto-forward mechanism that automatically moves the page horizontally or vertically when your writing crosses an adjustable boundary on your screen. Needless to say that all methods append new pages if needed. For further details concerning any of these methods, please have a look on the app's help page.
Try to use evernote..
It's the nice app..
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@alsseja: I am glad to hear that you like LectureNotes. However, there is no need to change to `hand´ mode for scrolling, the app comes with several better ways to move the page: In case you use stylus hardware or software detection or save zone, you can enabled one and/or two finger scrolling and zooming in all modes. Additionally, you can use the `arrow´ icon (hidden by default), the volume keys of your device, or a connected mouse to advance the page by an adjustable amount, plus a `page forward´ icon (hidden by default) to advance by one page. Last but not least, the app has an auto-forward mechanism that automatically moves the page horizontally or vertically when your writing crosses an adjustable boundary on your screen. Needless to say that all methods append new pages if needed. For further details concerning any of these methods, please have a look on the app's help page.
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I definitely agree with this one!! It is the BEST notes app for the note. I use it extensively for work and grad school!! Worth every penny!
@ultra99: Many thanks for your kind comments, I am glad to hear that.
I didn't see this posted anywhere, but I use my SPen to take pictures quite a bit. Especially selfies with family and my child.
However I found an incredibly annoying issue. Delay between the button click and the actual camera taking the picture.
I found a very simple solution, which some of you may not like, but I for one have very little need for SPen to start video capture. So just by setting the "double click" function to none, lag is gone. Now the S-Pen take pictures instantly instead of "waiting" to see if the 2nd press happens.
Alternative method if you really need 2 functions, is setting the "double click" to Take picture
Hope this helps those who are annoyed as i was on the Delay.
to get to the settings, take the spen out and get to the popup menu, top left gear, and S-Pen Remote