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What are the advantages to flashing one of the new up and coming Gingerbread Roms over staying on one of the many stable Froyo Roms that are currently available ?
Gingerbread
Seriously, is this even a question?
I know, I know, but this is a serious question...
pros/cons ??
syl0n said:
Gingerbread
Seriously, is this even a question?
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LOL. No lag. I don't need to say more.
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Haven't noticed any cons unless you consider amazing battery life one. Also the performance on my phone has never been better no lag anywhere.
Try it you wont regret.
Here is a link that explains some improvements with GB...
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/17479/android_gingerbread_faq
Samsung added some new improvements to touchwiz I believe as well as some other tweaks.
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Thanks for the responses so far. And hopefully more will come, specifically from those who are running a new gingerbread rom, as I have yet to jump onto the ginger-train...but I'm sure I will soon.
You know how people will have what they think is a crappy old computer, but then a good tech guy gets rid of all of the viruses and updates the software and it runs so much better and they'll exclaim, "It's just like a new computer!"
Well, that's what Gingerbread feels like. The smoothness and the battery life make me feel like I have a dual core processor in there!
ginger bread pros:
optimisations that vastly improve the performance of the hummingbird
brighter screen
better color balance
no lag
better battery life stock vs stock
better browser
better market
better video player
new, shiny, better,
cons:
problem with proximity sensor on samsung release
framework doesnt allow the haptic feedback to work on captivate home button yet
some kernel mods havent been ported yet
2.2 pros:
lots of roms
lots of development
lots of kernels
roms available with amazing battery life do to mods
cons:
slower
laggier
I.hear the camera doesnt work.
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xXmEtAlFaNxJxLx said:
I.hear the camera doesnt work.
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You heard wrong, my friend. Mine works just fine.
Is this a real question that is like saying what is better a honda or a lexus... But thee camera.apk was fix that was when freshly ported betas I haven't found any kinks on ginger bread
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I have been running the GR11 gingerbread rom,and it early but everything works for me..But if your happy with 2.2 right now .Wait till the ginger bread Roms have more development time/or you will be updating almost every day..This is my opinion....
Waiting till q4 for icecream is hell.
It seems to solve so many problems with android.
Updates for 18 months on devices as long as hardware can handle it,( I'm sure this will help cm7)
My phone and tablet running the same os so they can have the same apps.
Should be a fresh new look with the updated holographic UI.
Gingerbread wasn't a big step for android, just some stability improvements and a dark UI to try and save battery ( I still use a froyo theme though)
So hoping icecream is all its cracked up to be.
Sorry pointless post just hate having to wait ( not even one leak yet :'( )
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Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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Sense fanboy rules out this whole statement. Going from cm7 to cm9 is extreme. If I wasn't on a cell I'd elaborate.
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Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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I guess ICS is a huge step for guys that never tried MIUI or don't like Sense Roms, for those o tried/like MIUI and Sense it is a question of just some more features.
ragapa97 said:
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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At least for devices built with/for Sense in mind, when it gets officially combined with ICS by HTC (later this year, they say), it may reveal a new light on the subject.
It might work great and be more stable/smooth and give you the desired Sense functions that current ICS ports don't have.
And only at 4.0.3, ICS may yet have places to go we will have to wait to see.
Maybe you are correct, still.. for now...
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I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101.
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These two bits of information are key. Try it on a Galaxy Nexus / Nexus S and you may have a differing opinion.
well as st.matt said, you should try it on the galaxy nexus device and then only you will get the real taste of ice crem sandwich!
With better interface,power management,loads of new features...its definitely better than its previous versions.
@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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Doesn't have to do specifically with hardware. It means those phones and tablets have better support due to official releases.
Everything else that doesn't have an official release has devs trying their best to get it working, but not everything is working or disabled. Such as most HTC devices.
Sense 3.5 reduced my phone to a laggy mess, which is why I switched to miui. I'd be interested in seeing what the official release of ICS runs like when it's out.
When htc release the update to Ics there will be lots of Ics Roms that are really smooth and fast for the incredible s
yes agree with you. sens + ics in my opinion will be a step forward
I'm waiting too for ICS + sense. Lets get our hopes up..... Or not!
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After seeing the ICS ports by StMatt and Virtuous team, I'm having a sneaky, suspicious feeling that ICS + sense will make me wish for going back to gingerbread + sense.
ICS IMO has been a major disappointment, (just like the Niagara Falls have been the second major disappointment in an American bride's life).
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I've been running the Quattro ROM on my phone for almost a month now, and while that ROM does have some customization in it and still has a fair bit of bugs, I'd have a hard time going back to 2.3 even with the Sense. While Sense is really nice, Android before ICS did have a fair bit of lag on it and just didn't feel as smooth as things like iOS. With ICS, moving homescreens, swiping pages in applications, etc. just feels a little more natural and with less lag.
Plus, with Google Chrome for ICS, that's enough reason to go over. Miles above the stock Android browser!
Nik is releasing a sense+ ics rom tomorrow and I can't wait to try it. I tried all the other ics roms that are out for the incs and I have to admit that I'm quite disappointed. I use cm7 before I switched to trinity so niks New rom might be the one for me
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They're disappointments bcuz they're betas! FCs and shortages aside they look charming can't w8 for a miui 4 that's stable
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I guess they will truly be stable when htc releases the update at the end of march ... Right now I'm going to flash niks dream rom to tie me down
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Seems like some Microsoft initiated FUD campaign, in order to promote Windows 8; but whaddya know, there may just be some truth in the fact that "ICS has not been well received by phone / tablet manufacturers and ICS acceptance percentages have been way too little"
Maybe there is some truth in the blurb, and maybe the sour grapes feeling in me is really justified....
Read the link.....
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html[url]
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Do you think the ICS original rom will receive 3.X kernel?That would be awesome!
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.
question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.
dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..
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Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0
What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics
Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!
Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.
i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP
I just want to know if the issues related to this rom are the same we all know, those things such; no video record, no codecs, menus fading away and stuff.
The known issues are the same? no improve on that?
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Most likely, as all ICS roms developed have the same issues. Remember there is STILL no hardware acceleration available for the O2X, so you just got to wait for LG to officially update to ICS (snooze...snooze...), or a developer "converts" the drivers from the Mimosa X to our phones.
Despite that, everything else should work quite nicely!
Add hot reboot and occasional display freeze while scrolling, and you got a disastrous phone!!
Thanks NVIDIA for not releasing the sources!!
Better stay with cm7.2 and wait until lg releases the ics for p990.. until then cm9 for p990 is incomplete..
Well I'm using build 77 and am quite happy with it.
It is not as stable as cm7.2 - but I prefer the Android 4 UI over the stableness of Android 2.3. It does has it's hiccups, but apart from that is running good.
Everyone has to decide this for himself.
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ICS recently won title of most user-friendly mobile OS!! we all love it