Hello... i have been using the Note for a while. As for writing and drawing, my S-pen is really smooth, only a very slight pressure is required to register my S-pen on the screen. However, I have some minor issue with my S-pen and that being the false detection of my S-pen when it is not even touching the screen. Because of this false detection, sometimes I get unwanted pencil strokes on the S-memo and also making unwanted selections in the Menus and settings..
I am thinking of getting the S-pen holder that comes with a spare S-pen. But i've seen people in this forum saying that S-pens differ a lot in sensitivity and detection. The official Samsung S-pen accessory(comes with holder) has a grey button. The button on mine is black.
A friend of mine has a grey-buttoned stock S-pen that came with it when he bought the Note. I tested his pen on my Note and it was really bad. It required excessive pressure to register on my screen. However, his pen did not produce any unwanted false detections on my Note; ie. No unwanted pen strokes nor unwanted selections.
So, has anyone bought the spare S-pen from Samsung? What about the pressure/sensitivity of the spare S-pen in comparison to the stock S-pen? Or perhaps it is better to invest in other Wacom styluses, those with eraser function? And also is there anyone here with experience using the Spare S-pen?anyone with advice is very much appreciated. Thanks.
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This one :- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-...X39I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342685483&sr=8-1
It's very well made and has a good heft to it, feels like quality. I've only been able to test it on my TP as N7 still on the slow boat from Timbuktoo, the TP is not as sensitive as the N7 and pressure sensitive apps don't seem to work on it so more on that when the N7 arrives. That said the stylus is very responsive and the tip does not 'stick' to the screen although I suppose it depends what (if any) screen protector you have and how tacky it is so ymmv.
The pen end is not a gimmick, it takes Parker refills so that's a big plus point, the lid clips on firmly and the pocket clip is very strong but there's nowhere to store the cap when you are using the pen as it won't fit over the stylus tip, that's a minor problem though..
I have only one big gripe but which could be a problem if you intend to use it for long periods, when using the stylus end the balance point is too far back for my liking and the stylus wants to tip back all the time, given it's weight this is noticeable quite quickly. The balance point is a tiny bit forward of the line of the cap joint which is about the two thirds mark. You can ease the problem by taking the cap off the end but that exposes the pen nib with all the dangers of drawing on your hand/clothes as well as the screen.
As I said above, it's a well made piece if kit and well worth the money, I've used a few styluses from checp nasty ones to better quality, this one is by far the best I've used yet even given the balance issue.
I got this as well and am very happy with it! This is my first tablet, so maybe I don't know what a real good stylus is, but it feels really natural to use and I actually prefer it over using my fingers. Plus less smudging and the pen is handy as well
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
Update, Three weeks later and while the stylus is still as good to use, the pen cap is getting loose (rubber O ring a bit thin) which means it can come apart when hung from the clip. Drops a star for that.
Troute said:
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
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There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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My guess....he's using Quill or a similar app which has a tool that somehow manages to mimic pressure sensitivity.
khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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I wonder if there's an app that can transfer pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth or WiFi.
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I spoke of pressure sensitive Apps, not the N7 screen. I can't speak for all Apps but Markers is one that responds well to the stylus. I think it may be sensing tip coverage but it goes much further than just the area touched by the stylus (or your finger) try it and you'll see what I mean.
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
Troute said:
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
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I got the silver elago stylus for 10 bucks, made of aluminum, removable soft tip, nice length, width, weight, and it includes an additional soft tip
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I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
Doallyn said:
I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
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Mine has become totally unusable now, the tip seems sticky and will not run across the screen smoothly.
I'm a graphic artist, so I do a whole lot of drawing and drafting. The Wacom digitizer is actually one of the main reasons I'm getting a Note 2 actually haha.
I've never used a screen protector on any of my phones, but I'd like the GN2 to be the first. The only concern I'm having is that the screen protector will interfere with the stylus' levels of pressure sensitivity while drawing and writing.
Does anyone know if this is the case?
JLG http://www.amazon.com/Just-Like-Gla...id=1354559982&sr=8-2&keywords=just+like+glass is what I use and it is the best I have ever used! No issues at all with sensitivity levels and it is actually smoother than the bare glass!
Have you noticed it affecting the pen in any way? Sensitivity to pressure?
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Have you noticed it affecting the pen in any way? Sensitivity to pressure?
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Just installed JLG as well and pen sensitivity is still as good as the stock glass.
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awesome, I'm gonna have to order one!
Just for giggles, I just tried the stylus through one of the clear cd spacers you get with a spendle of disks. Works just fine though it. I'm pretty sure as long as it's not thicker than the hover distance, a screen protector isn't going to affect the stylus.
Thanks to everyone in this thread, I had the exact same question/scenario, but couldn't find a specific enough answer.
I think the pressure sensitivity etc is all done on the s-pen end of things. If you hover the pen over the screen so the little air view circle comes up you can click the nub on the end of the pen in and it registers as a touch, and testing in s-note, line thickness varies with how hard you press the nub in. Judging by this as long as the screen protector isn't spongy or soft it should be fine.
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It won't cause problems so long as they are not too thick as to activate hover function.
(A basic overview of how it works)
The S-pen is an active digitizer. The screen actually emits a signal... the stylus has a mechanism in it that resonates with the signal. It is passive so no batteries are required in the stylus. If you notice the tip of the stylus can actually move in and out a little, this is what does the pressure sensitivity. Touching the screen causes the tip to compress a little and it actually alters how the stylus resonates the signal from the screen. More pressure means more change and the digitizer reads it.
This is also why some styluses can have a drawing and erase end. The erase end resonates differently and the digitizer can differentiate between them.
Hope that clears it up.
The S-Pen on my SG Note 3 has been intermittently acting screwball for a while now and I'm hoping someone out there has any better ideas than what I've found so far.
When I have the stylus within a few millimetres of the screen but not touching it, it will mark the screen, usually in a slightly heavier line than what it makes when it is actually in contact with the screen. Makes using it virtually impossible.
I've tried slamming the thing on the desk....and other various ways of just about knocking it into next week without breaking it. I've tried various app shut down procedures with reboots....which seemed to work, for about 2 or 3 minutes. I've bought a replacement S-Pen (a cheap one, so I'm not sure it counts) which acts exactly the same.
Any more ideas?
I might as well just have a Mega or (shudder) an iPhone 6 Plus.
Hello.
If I wanted to use the phone to draw with a pen as if I had a digitizer tablet...
What type of pen would I need?
I guess the Mi8's screen is capacitive.
What model would you recommend?
Something accurate and not scratching the screen and that not too expensive.
Will an active stylus work with this phone?
Or do I need to stay with a digital capacitive pen?
I bought one from Aliexpress, cheaper than the expensive ones, but still 19€.
I know it doesn't say it's sensitive to pressure but I for that price I expected something able to draw with different widths.
I'm dissapointed, it's just a common pen but with a hard tip that can scratch your screen.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KIN...517.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.15e94c4do7Oxx8
Hey there,
this is just a personal opinion, but after working with the note for several months now, I have to say that I definitely miss a straight display without rounded edges - and I have to say that IMAO an edge display (in the current form) provides a bad UX, is impractical and not only it doesn´t provide any extra value, but it much more creates extra work.
My best example: A lot of times where I want to use the smart select feature, the pen just slides to the end of the display´s edge as the rounded glass makes it to do so. this is super annoying.
The edge display is a nice gimmick on the S (e.g. S9 & S10) devices, but when it comes to the NOTE series, I´d very much prefer an even display again. As long as you have a tool with a fine tip, a rounded surface is just a bad interface design decision.
I´m interested in your opinion! What do you guys think about this? Anyone out there sharing my experiences or am I the only one shouting out "GODDAMMIT" several times a week?
brooon said:
Hey there,
this is just a personal opinion, but after working with the note for several months now, I have to say that I definitely miss a straight display without rounded edges - and I have to say that IMAO an edge display (in the current form) provides a bad UX, is impractical and not only it doesn´t provide any extra value, but it much more creates extra work.
My best example: A lot of times where I want to use the smart select feature, the pen just slides to the end of the display´s edge as the rounded glass makes it to do so. this is super annoying.
The edge display is a nice gimmick on the S (e.g. S9 & S10) devices, but when it comes to the NOTE series, I´d very much prefer an even display again. As long as you have a tool with a fine tip, a rounded surface is just a bad interface design decision.
I´m interested in your opinion! What do you guys think about this? Anyone out there sharing my experiences or am I the only one shouting out "GODDAMMIT" several times a week?
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It doesn't bother me so much on the note since the curve is much more subtle than on the s series and the area of screen that actually slopes over the curve is a great deal less. It doesn't bother me personally and I really like the look of it so I deal with what very small frustration it causes.
I've always hated this edge crap. It's useless and ugly. And that pen issue is a major one for me. It is so annoying that I've decided not to buy any other note (or any phone for that matter) that has this useless edge.
I completely agree with OP's opinion
Also, it is a pain in the a** for the protection of the screen. The edge gimmick is completely unnecessary in the Note line
I agree too but maybe next version will be concave !:cyclops::cyclops:
t-shock said:
I completely agree with OP's opinion
Also, it is a pain in the a** for the protection of the screen. The edge gimmick is completely unnecessary in the Note line
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Screen protectors are a nightmare on curved screens.
Doesnt bother me to much except for what K-alz stated, trying to get a good screen protector sucks. Then once you find a protector your case pushes it off.
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Yup!
The pack of quality screen protectors outweighs the S-Pen slipping off of the side of the screen.
The Note 9 is incredibly awesome, the stupid curved screen aside.
Curved phone screens started as a gimmick/brand recognition thing and stayed for aesthetic purposes. They also make the phones look a bit less candy bar-ish (due to tall aspect ratios these days).
Other than that, there are no pros at all. It just ruins user experience in general.
Guess they heard everyone's complaints - b/c the Note 10 lite is basically a Note 9 with a flat screen :good: