hi guys,
with the demise of my beloved HD2 going the poor way of the dodo and the fact that for the last year ive stuck with WP7, i decided to bite the bullet and spend a "fraction" more (?!?) on a real WP7 device, aka the Focus S rather than the "slightly" cheaper HD2
So anyhow, since this is a somewhat smaller community than the HD2 i figured id say hello to you all.
now my device is winging its way over the pond at the mo so i dont actually have it but im interested in knowing what we DONT know about it.
yup, i see plenty of threads on inter-op and dev unlock, SIM unlock, de branding, MMS AND ICS im interested in what doesnt work correctly or the way we want it
Everything except ICS worked out of the box for me so I ran WinTT to enable internet sharing with the default settings and it worked like a charm. Welcome aboard I just got my Focus S about a week ago as well.
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64GUNSHIP said:
Everything except ICS worked out of the box for me so I ran WinTT to enable internet sharing with the default settings and it worked like a charm. Welcome aboard I just got my Focus S about a week ago as well.
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cheers mate, looks like its going to be about a week before I get my hands on it, kind of hoping the HD2 holds out that long!
I see DFT gave the Original Focus some of their magic, Is there any news of it happening here as well?
Id read a review that said the Focus S had a dim screen, is that true, or are they just being picky?
No custom ROM's for the Focus S yet as there is no unlocked bootloader
But you can use WP7 Root Tools for root access (the developer is also close to releasing a version enabling full native access, so custom ROM's wouldn't really be needed after that anyway).
The auto display intensity setting makes the screen maybe a tad darker in a dark room than you'd like it to but I don't find it too bad. You can set the brightness manually or turn the auto-intensity off. When you're in sunlight, the screen is definitely bright enough to easily read. I guess the review you read was written by some idiot who doesn't even know how to change brightness settings lol.
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No custom ROM's for the Focus S yet as there is no unlocked bootloader
But you can use WP7 Root Tools for root access (the developer is also close to releasing a version enabling full native access, so custom ROM's wouldn't really be needed after that anyway).
The auto display intensity setting makes the screen maybe a tad darker in a dark room than you'd like it to but I don't find it too bad. You can set the brightness manually or turn the auto-intensity off. When you're in sunlight, the screen is definitely bright enough to easily read. I guess the review you read was written by some idiot who doesn't even know how to change brightness settings lol.
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ah auto brightness! there was me thinking it was just a HD2 issue, cool, that's good to know thanks.
as for custom ROMs I agree, the need for changing ROMs is a lot less than it used to be although from time to time some "patches" will only work if cooked in from the start even on a fully unlocked device.
im not too bothered about custom ROMS to be honest, if I was id have brought another HD2, but there are some very handy tools that would be useful but needs full unlock
So are there many folk on this forum then, lots of views on this post but only 1 person replied
I'm not sure.. Haven't posts here much myself.. I stick to the main WP7 areas mostly
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64GUNSHIP said:
I'm not sure.. Haven't posts here much myself.. I stick to the main WP7 areas mostly
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So has anyone seen or had any issues with the i937 getting interop unlocked AFTER the zune 8107 update?
ive seen plenty of posts on the omnia 7/W not being interop unlockable after this 8107 update or more specifically the samsung part of it, (cab sending MS 8107 works fine)
and ive seen posts saying that other samsung devices may be effected but ive not found any posts of a Focus S having the problem, is this just because of a much more limited userbase or is it actually cool.
The more i read the more im starting to feel uncomfortable if it has been 8107 updated PRIOR to interop unlock, as far as i can tell, if it is then its essentially locked down solid.
My device came to me (used) with 8107 already on it. I used the WindowBreak method and it was interop unlocked in minutes.
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My device came to me (used) with 8107 already on it. I used the WindowBreak method and it was interop unlocked in minutes.
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that's good to know, cheers!
Yeah it's a great device, glad to hear you got one! These forums are extremely lonely though, if you really need support head over to http://forums.wpcentral.com/focus-s-4g/ WPCentral is phenomenal but I'm sure you knew that. XDA is really just for android.
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Yeah it's a great device, glad to hear you got one! These forums are extremely lonely though, if you really need support head over to http://forums.wpcentral.com/focus-s-4g/ WPCentral is phenomenal but I'm sure you knew that. XDA is really just for android.
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cheers for that, there are still some great developers on here, but you are correct, its moved a lot further to the Green Robot in recent years. Something to remember is that it wasn't that long ago that we didn't have devices other than HTC, which does provide a bit of historical context to why the remaining WP developers mostly target HTC.
ah damn it, they sent me the wrong phone, anyone have any questions they want answered about the Focus Flash?, you've got a few hours before its getting returned.
How is the screen on the Focus Flash compared to Super Amoled Plus on the S?
Finally I have a Focus S in my possession! I don't have the battery yet and my IMEI unlock code hasn't arrived just yet either but with a bit of luck ill be up and running very soon!
Now what? well theres the mine field of upgrades to navigate but more importantly is to start speaking to some developers, esp some of the gods on here to see what, if anything we can do to help our own cause, lets face it folks, due to the AT&T lock in there aren't anywhere near enough people out there for developers to want to spend a lot of time on this so if we want unlocked devices etc we will likely need to chip in together to make it work, what do you guys think?
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Hello, you Gods in the mobile development world!
IN about 8 days I will get an Xperia X2 from my company and from what I saw when I searched around on the wonderful World Wide Web, is that this phone has some really annoying errors.
And as a person that have been useing the HD2 for some time now, this probably will be the end of whats left of my nervs...
Anyway, as for the question;
What happens if I try to use a X1 ROM developed by you guys? Willl the Failtrain end in a BRICK wall? Or is there any chance of success? Is there anything I can do to increase the chances for a victory? <- Apart from the obvious, just **** in trying to do something about it and wait for an official update aka move on with my life... (or maby throw the phone out in the snow?)
I'm Willing (of course) to tell u whatever information you need about the phone.
There must be other like me- that have tryed or is willing to...?
Any Cabs that work?
Maby someone could post a sticky for stuff that work on the X2?
Cheers mates!
mm.. and sorry for the spelling. English is my 3rd language and speaking is one thing.. typing somthing els!
Maybe I should simply send it to any of you ROM developers....
Why are you calling it the failtrain?
Why would you want an x1 rom with outdated stuff on an x2 any way?
And the x2 will get custom roms too (any time when it gets hard spl'ed)
Just wait .. dont throw it in the snow and if you plan on doing that might as well sell it on ebay?
You could just stick with the hd2 any way its better in everything. (Ok no hardware keyboard)
Hi, i'm an X2 owner and i'm also inclined to call it the failtrain. I've been lurking here a short while but i've not really seen many of its issues documented. Or probably i've been lazy and missed it.
I've not much time to detail its issues now, will just point out some main points. The biggest grouse any X2 owner will have is that the software just feels so glitchy. My phone was hanging on the lock screen. I.e. after locking my phone, it will without fail, at least once a day, crash while on the lock screen. There is no fix except to take out the battery. After hard resetting via battery replacement, you've gotta reset it once more to clear the error completely.
Daily.
I've seen some other users bring up the fact that the screen does not wake up upon receiving text messages. Oh and even the text message alert can hang, i.e. half of it will play, and end abruptly. When you next do an action involving any alert sound, the remaining part will play as well.
If this doesnt reek of an incomplete product, i don't know what does.
I've reset my phone via SEUS. It is the same firmware version as what was in the box, though having done that the phone lock problem has stopped, so far.
But this phone does show a lot of promise. As a former X1 user, the X2 surely is a step in the right direction, in terms of polish and interface. Of course this assumes that SE gets its act together and push out decent firmware, of which there is no news.
Until then, the X2 is quite the disappointment.
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Why would you want an x1 rom with outdated stuff on an x2 any way?
And the x2 will get custom roms too (any time when it gets hard spl'ed)
Just wait .. dont throw it in the snow and if you plan on doing that might as well sell it on ebay?
You could just stick with the hd2 any way its better in everything. (Ok no hardware keyboard)
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I rather be using a working rom instead of a phone so full of glitches that its almost inpossible to use on a daly basis..
Well. Ill just have to wait for those hard spl's...
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Hi, i'm an X2 owner and i'm also inclined to call it the failtrain. I've been lurking here a short while but i've not really seen many of its issues documented. Or probably i've been lazy and missed it.
I've not much time to detail its issues now, will just point out some main points. The biggest grouse any X2 owner will have is that the software just feels so glitchy. My phone was hanging on the lock screen. I.e. after locking my phone, it will without fail, at least once a day, crash while on the lock screen. There is no fix except to take out the battery. After hard resetting via battery replacement, you've gotta reset it once more to clear the error completely.
Daily.
I've seen some other users bring up the fact that the screen does not wake up upon receiving text messages. Oh and even the text message alert can hang, i.e. half of it will play, and end abruptly. When you next do an action involving any alert sound, the remaining part will play as well.
If this doesnt reek of an incomplete product, i don't know what does.
I've reset my phone via SEUS. It is the same firmware version as what was in the box, though having done that the phone lock problem has stopped, so far.
But this phone does show a lot of promise. As a former X1 user, the X2 surely is a step in the right direction, in terms of polish and interface. Of course this assumes that SE gets its act together and push out decent firmware, of which there is no news.
Until then, the X2 is quite the disappointment.
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Spot on.
So there are no news from SE about any updates coming to his phone in the nere future?
poetryrocksalot said:
Why are you calling it the failtrain?
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Buy one and you'll know
Molokos|Anger said:
Spot on.
So there are no news from SE about any updates coming to his phone in the nere future?
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Yes they are:
http://xperiancers.com/2010/02/02/xperia-x2-software-support-schedule/
Two major updates.
Thx doministry.
To bad that it takes SE that long to upgrade the phone to 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 ...
I'm getting realy tierd of all these phone companys pumping out phones and then just stop updating there softwere- exept that ****ty phone from that plastic-design company with a fruit as there trademark.. and maby HTC that seems to be a more reliable company for each year that passes. (Well.. maby its just me..)
Well, it's not really necessary to throw in on the snow or sell it somewhere. Just keep it in your locker room or somewhere safe and get back to it until XDA and ROM Chefs start to put a special thread here.
It's Microsoft's Windows Mobile anyway and not Toyota.
id suggest that when you get your X2, have a quick play with it and see what you think. but then put it away until march when the first update comes out. its a pretty good phone but judging by your first post i doubt you could put up with the few bugs that are still present.
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Well, it's not really necessary to throw in on the snow or sell it somewhere. Just keep it in your locker room or somewhere safe and get back to it until XDA and ROM Chefs start to put a special thread here.
It's Microsoft's Windows Mobile anyway and not Toyota.
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Well... if it had been made in Japan you could have fixed it with glue... (There is a Swedish saying: if you can not fix it with tape or glue - then it's not worth repairing...)
Still thinking about that pile of snow.......
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Thx doministry.
To bad that it takes SE that long to upgrade the phone to 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 ...
I'm getting realy tierd of all these phone companys pumping out phones and then just stop updating there softwere- exept that ****ty phone from that plastic-design company with a fruit as there trademark.. and maby HTC that seems to be a more reliable company for each year that passes. (Well.. maby its just me..)
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Ahem, sorry,
but's not a SE only problem!
WM 6.5.3 was announced officially few days back,
so apparently there's no device yet on market with this 6.5.3 (I mean device available, not just announced)
is it possible tethering via usb or wifi??
Anyone know a way to use this terminal as a modem??
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is it possible tethering via usb or wifi??
Anyone know a way to use this terminal as a modem??
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Currently no, I sent an email to wifirouter which made the great app for our HD2's and the only reply they gave me was no so good, and that for how they see the OS now, it doesnt allow for it.
Lets hope Windows fixes that. Cause we need that. I really really need that.
This one has been beaten to death in other threads but for what it's worth +1 for tethering feature here as well.
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This one has been beaten to death in other threads but for what it's worth +1 for tethering feature here as well.
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really? what other threads has it been beaten down on? I am the one who mentioned and asked about this in a different thread, that was about a few general topics not specifically this one.
here are three....want more ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814586&highlight=tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823011
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here are three....want more ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814586&highlight=tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823011
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u call that beat up? a few threads on it, and one of them is by me
okay... you win... bring on the tethering Microsoft !
Damn i have a 2 week business trip and i just found out this phone does not have tethering 0mg now wat....
well, this is gonna be good news for those who would like to see
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/...net-tethering-in-windows-phone-7-samsung-wp7/
i hope this gonna be for HTC phone as well.
yes tethering is needed..pls 1+
This is true its the biggest thing the phone is missing, that being said though personally im so glad it does not as all i got form my wife when i had my desire was "hook me up" bloody ipods lol
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well, this is gonna be good news for those who would like to see
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/...net-tethering-in-windows-phone-7-samsung-wp7/
i hope this gonna be for HTC phone as well.
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Doesnt do us much good, and I really hope they come out with it soon, even if it is third party like we had on the HD2, i hate dragging my HD2 around to see clients just to have that one feature.
Any news or rumor about hd7 tether we need the update really soon.
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Any news or rumor about hd7 tether we need the update really soon.
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not that I have seen, my HD7 is a paper weight right now, since that is all it is good for, i got fed up with all the missing things went back to HD2.
Man, I'm right there with you. Same thing. Microsoft took a step backwards. Disappointment. I have to keep switching SIM cards to my AT&T tilt to tether. Serious BS.
all these answers have really really pushed me back, not buying until MS fixes all or most of the common things, tether, bluetooth atleast
I just got HD7 from ebay and got in love with it and the WP7 system in one hour time. But last and most important thing for me that I checked was usb tethering.
What a disappointment.
I hope M$ will make it soon available or I'll get rid of the phone unfortunately
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I just got HD7 from ebay and got in love with it and the WP7 system in one hour time. But last and most important thing for me that I checked was usb tethering.
What a disappointment.
I hope M$ will make it soon available or I'll get rid of the phone unfortunately
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Eh u just got the phone, give it a few days, ull grow to hate it
But yes, tethering not present is a big let down, along with many missing items, and the mid January BIG update, is nothing more then new fixes for market place and cut/paste to shut us up, which is still not here soooooo....
thats why im glad i kept my HD2
has anyone tried using the DFrouter xap posted in the hd2 development forum? You need a jailbroken device for that though..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922000
First, is there any updates concerning tethering on the HD7? And second, why is everyone blaming Microsoft when they have already said that its availible but up to the carriers to offer it?
some apps requires root for it to works.
We don't know if it will be a locked bootloader. Let's hope it isn't and Moto is keeping to their promise to "work with both parties":
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-well-work-with-developers
I would love to know this too when the information is avaliable, i'm tring to get rid of my iphone to leave the big brother. If moto is going to pulling this crap then i'm going to get a htc or something else.
at&t will probably ask to be locked bootloader since at&t is pure evil
I don't understand why it seems to be such a big deal that Motorola has locked bootloader, since even the Nexus S has one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875580
Is there some sublety I'm missing? Is the "moto lock" harder to bypass than the "Sammy lock"?
What about the ATT and Verizon whole upgrade policy now. What the hell is going on there. i hate these companies
I don't understand why it seems to be such a big deal that Motorola has locked bootloader, since even the Nexus S has one?
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Yes, the "fastboot oem unlock" command only works on select devices mainly the Nexus One and Nexus S (probably a few other ones too like the milestone)
Most other phones have locked down bootloader by the manufacturer and do not unlock in the same way. You can take the Sony Xepria as an example of the worst possible scenario for having a locked phone
If Moto doesn't release the unlocking procedure, it will take time and in some case will not be possible to unlock the device and there won't be any Dev community actively working on the device.
Honestly they should all release the locked & unlocked version. You want peace of mind you get the locked version. You want to risk brick'ing your phone you get the unlocked and the carrier/manufacturer don't not to deal with you.
IMO this is who it should be.
yea..i am excited about this product and posted over in the Gtab forum (since Gtab is the WHOLE of my android experience being a 2+year iphone user)...and immediately was told "nope, not going to get one as it will most likely be locked".
Understood and appreciated but...
Well...look, i don't mind locked if the darn thing ships with working software and has at least 90% of the functionality i want out of the box. For example..as boring as the iphone has gotten, it works so i am ok with it being a walled garden.
In the case of the Gtab, its VERY intensively being rooted and and thats a good thing..because it was A NON FUNCTIONAL pos out of the box so modding it was a MUST.
Likewise if the Atrix works well out of the box ill be fine with it..if it doesnt work so great and is locked down..i either wont be buying one or ill be taking it back within the 3 day period.....
We will see i guess as i am kinda tired of how limited the iphone really is. I want an SD card and the ability to side load working stuff without using itunes. I want an HDMI output that i can watch movies on the hotel flat screen tvs just by plugging in my phone to it. I want to be able to get lap top functionality and/or use it as a mobile hot spot. I want to be able to hack in and get full use of tv.com and hulu. I want my sling box to work. I want to stream blue tooth to my car along with pandora and have blue tooth head phone funcionality, i want lots of cool easy to get and use apps. I want something i can get a keyboard to for content creation or at least give me a slide out keyboard (lets face it, touch screen is not as good for creating content no matter HOW good you are at the onscreen touch style key pads).
The atrix looks to fit the bill where as my Gtab is having to pull %75 of what i WISH my iphone could do for me (netflix being the exception of something my iphone does, that droid wont do). But for watching movies/tv, pluggin in a key board and typing, and surfing on a larger touch screen i could not be happier and am glad i avoided an ipad......I would also like better MS office/exchange support but think the atrix is an over all better solution than going with a win7 phone just for that one piece of the picture...
The hardware is there...the connectivity is there. It is 100% all going to come down to software and execution to determine if this thing is the solution i hope it will be versus a complete waste of time and energy (in which case it's... Samsung Infuse vs an HTC ((and continuing using the gtab )) i guess....)....
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at&t will probably ask to be locked bootloader since at&t is pure evil
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Yea, and installing apps from other than the market probably wont be allowed either.
Luckily that was all easy to fix on the Galaxy S, it was so easy to be rooted and load custom ROMS. Heck, there was a root procedure out for it before it was even released officially.
I'm with Allen. As long as it works, little need to mod it anyway.
The only mod that is a must is rooting to simply remove all the ATT junk.
But how can you remove system data( Att junk) if you can not have r/w access to system.
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I'm with Allen. As long as it works, little need to mod it anyway.
The only mod that is a must is rooting to simply remove all the ATT junk.
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But how can you remove system data( Att junk) if you can not have r/w access to system.
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He said the only thing you need is root.
Nah, root and rom allows you to make it your *****. Otherwise your just dryhumping. Let us hope the smart guys make progress on this. I will not buy any phone that does not have developer support here. That one thing gives a phone a lot of extra legs and everything between here and end of life is the better for it. I'm a shoe in to buy this one if there are no other more worthy hardware options coming soon but I'll stick with my N1 if it cant be made to raise the whit flag until the next thing comes. XDA developer support IS NOT OPTIONAL!
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Nah, root and rom allows you to make it your *****. Otherwise your just dryhumping. Let us hope the smart guys make progress on this. I will not buy any phone that does not have developer support here. That one thing gives a phone a lot of extra legs and everything between here and end of life is the better for it. I'm a shoe in to buy this one if there are no other more worthy hardware options coming soon but I'll stick with my N1 if it cant be made to raise the whit flag until the next thing comes. XDA developer support IS NOT OPTIONAL!
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lmao ditto on all accounts!
Agreed. I sincerely hope moto doesn't bone us. Although i'm confused. from what I read the Droid X had a huge hullaballo about the efuse, however i've also read that there's no efuse with the tegra2, and the Droid X has custom roms. So what would a locked bootloader be? Are people referring to and "unlockable" locked bootloader?
I just want to see if the Atrix has wifi tether out of the box or if i'll have to *****-mount some other solution (IE; PDAnet). I really hope it either is out of the box or someone gets it running shortly after. PdaNet just did not seem to get on well with my ipad, and my captivate and streak both worked extremely well with the one built into 2.2
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Agreed. I sincerely hope moto doesn't bone us. Although i'm confused. from what I read the Droid X had a huge hullaballo about the efuse, however i've also read that there's no efuse with the tegra2, and the Droid X has custom roms. So what would a locked bootloader be? Are people referring to and "unlockable" locked bootloader?
I just want to see if the Atrix has wifi tether out of the box or if i'll have to *****-mount some other solution (IE; PDAnet). I really hope it either is out of the box or someone gets it running shortly after. PdaNet just did not seem to get on well with my ipad, and my captivate and streak both worked extremely well with the one built into 2.2
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Custom roms built on motorola's kernels. That's the big thing turn off with the DX/2/2Global/Milestone/everything besides the OG Droid.
That does make sense. But can a custom rom built on motos kernel enable items like wifi tether?
I doubt ATT will alow wifi tether out the box unless they can control it and charge you for it
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I doubt ATT will alow wifi tether out the box unless they can control it and charge you for it
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That I understand, even expect. However my streak and captivate were able to get it via roms, I was curious if that will be possible with a locked bootloader on the atrix. I'm not overly familiar with the development scene beyond loading roms and flashing kernals (ie I can do it but couldn't make my own). So I don't know if being limited to the moto kernal would restrict you from having wifi tether and was hoping someone more experienced could answer that one.
I think yes..
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That does make sense. But can a custom rom built on motos kernel enable items like wifi tether?
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At least for Milestone is Ok, nadlabak CM6 for example work really fine regarding tethering (USB and WiFi)
Let's hope a master piece like Atrix could be rooted and improved (if that's possible)
I have been patiently waiting on Custom Roms on 2nd Gen devices such as our Focus S. Just wanting to know if anyone is still looking into this. Thanks for your help.
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I have been patiently waiting on Custom Roms on 2nd Gen devices such as our Focus S. Just wanting to know if anyone is still looking into this. Thanks for your help.
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im not entirely sure that development even started for the focus s
which is a shame as its a beast of a device, ive asked questions to the gods that be on XDA dev to see if they could even point us In the right direction to playing with this amazing device, unfortunately they have all ignored me.
So I believe as it stands, they don't want to do anything with it as its got a very small user base, and they dnt want to help us so we can do it either.
but still, least its interop unlocked and unlock tools works with it!
This makes me deeply sad inside. It is a sensation like the one you feel when seeing a perfectly good cake being thrown in the garbage.
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This makes me deeply sad inside. It is a sensation like the one you feel when seeing a perfectly good cake being thrown in the garbage.
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tell me about it!
I know everyone is very busy, so I made it clear I wasn't asking for them to do anything but point us in the right direction to see what can be achieved, I get the feeling what ever it is that they do is some closely guarded secrete that us lesser mortals are not supposed to know.
Glad I'm not alone
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tell me about it!
I know everyone is very busy, so I made it clear I wasn't asking for them to do anything but point us in the right direction to see what can be achieved, I get the feeling what ever it is that they do is some closely guarded secrete that us lesser mortals are not supposed to know.
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I am to scared to do the Samsung Update in fear of losing my unlock access. I guess I will be going to the Nokia 920 because I think the user base will be large. This device has been solid for me besides the speaker his when I take a picture.
If the device is fully functional, an you make a backup, applying the Samsung update is fine, but make sure you re apply the relock prevent app, id also strongly suggest you try to restore a backup image as well just to make sure it works!. So make a backup, copy it to a safe location, install some app, then restore your backup, the app you installed should be gone!if that works double check your still interop unlocked, apply Samsung update, DO NOT lose your previous backup an do not apply any OS updates to your phone with out first restoring to your backup! IE remove the Samsung update first!
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Can someone tell me what good does the Samsung update do to the phone? I just want to know if it's worth the trouble.
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hienkhieu said:
Can someone tell me what good does the Samsung update do to the phone? I just want to know if it's worth the trouble.
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you can open it up and take a look for your self, to be honest, there is only a couple of noticeable reasons for doing so, the biggie is the keyboard lag issues, there is also an increase in audio volume. looking at the files, it also updates the ROM its self, so hard resets will give you tango rather than Mango
(NOTE_resettng is a really bad idea, if you reset your device, you probably wont be able to restore from a backup and you may end up stuck with it being locked!)
drivers and some apps receive updates.
To be honest, i wouldn't bother, unless the keyboard lag issue is too much for you ( kinda fixable if you turn off keyboard sounds) or the audio is too low an the popping drives you mad, the whole thing feels better but its marginal at best.
dazza9075 said:
you can open it up and take a look for your self, to be honest, there is only a couple of noticeable reasons for doing so, the biggie is the keyboard lag issues, there is also an increase in audio volume. looking at the files, it also updates the ROM its self, so hard resets will give you tango rather than Mango
(NOTE_resettng is a really bad idea, if you reset your device, you probably wont be able to restore from a backup and you may end up stuck with it being locked!)
drivers and some apps receive updates.
To be honest, i wouldn't bother, unless the keyboard lag issue is too much for you ( kinda fixable if you turn off keyboard sounds) or the audio is too low an the popping drives you mad, the whole thing feels better but its marginal at best.
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Thanks for your quick reply. The reason I asked because I could not find the info anywhere.
hienkhieu said:
Thanks for your quick reply. The reason I asked because I could not find the info anywhere.
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no worries mate
I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.