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What do u guys thing keep thunderbolt or change for bionic?
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What do u guys thing keep thunderbolt or change for bionic?
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Just came from a ThunderBolt check out my review: Link
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Thanks i wiil wait for some othee phones
Yea I just switched from my cm7 thunderbolt that I got on launch day at the Verizon store I work at and I'm kind of uneasy about the switch I made but my thunderbolt sold that day for 200of the 300 that it cost for the bionic so no going back now. Either way worst case scenario I upgrade on of the phones on my contract lines to a quad core next year. So if you have the opportunity to switch later go for it but if you have to keep it for 20months I would wait
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Just came from a ThunderBolt check out my review: Link
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Good review
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I've had the Bionic for 2 days and returned it. Back on the Thunderbolt.
I recommend waiting another month or so. Something else will come out.
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Just came from a ThunderBolt check out my review: Link
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That is exactly what I am doing.......Switching from the Thunderbolt to the Bionic.
It has been painless so far. Switched the 4G sim cards and SD cards. Then pointed TiBu to where to backups were and restored all my apps from the Thunderbolt.
The Bionic is blazing fast and the battery is awesome. But need more testing for battery life to get a better results....
I also came from a Thunderbolt.. and in my opinion, the Bionic while being a very nice phone and powerful - feels very intermediary to the next "big thing".. It doesn't feel like "the phone to have for the next year" to me... Either way, haven't sold my Tbolt and i'm giving it about 10 days before deciding if i'm keeping the Bionic or returning it.
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I also came from a Thunderbolt.. and in my opinion, the Bionic while being a very nice phone and powerful - feels very intermediary to the next "big thing".. It doesn't feel like "the phone to have for the next year" to me... Either way, haven't sold my Tbolt and i'm giving it about 10 days before deciding if i'm keeping the Bionic or returning it.
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Same here. Truly hate the screen. Like almost everything else. Battery has been better but not amazing. I'll keep it and sell it for the prime.
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I personally don't own a TB, but know several who do. The Bionic is a much nicer phone in just about every aspect. Battery life is much better not just a little. "Reviews" of the Bionic are only opinionated "initial impressions" just like my statement above
And the screen....coming from an amoled and slcd Inc....it's actually very nice. The best outdoor viewing I've seen on any phone.
bionic screen and no data+voice over 3g
hate the screen.
hate the fact that one cannot do data + voice over 3g like the t-bolt
love the build quality
love the call quality
net, net - keeping my bolt for either the htc vigor (oct. 6 launch according to sources on the web).
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hate the fact that one cannot do data + voice over 3g like the t-bolt
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That is my only gripe so far. That should be standard on all LTE phones.
I'm going to use it for another week and decide. Battery life and screen is the only thing making me think twice about going back to the tv.
Keeping the bionic, wifey gets the TB. Like someone else in this thread stated, the bionic feels like an intermediate step forward rather than a leap. Still, I'm quite happy with it. I refuse to obsess over the pentile screen. Has any other TB owner noticed how great this phone is in direct sunlight? The TB was tough to use outside.
biswasd said:
hate the screen.
hate the fact that one cannot do data + voice over 3g like the t-bolt
love the build quality
love the call quality
net, net - keeping my bolt for either the htc vigor (oct. 6 launch according to sources on the web).
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If you are in a 3g area, then I would wait. My data connection is worse than when the Thunderbolt just came out. I lose data for hours. I toggle modes (cdma/lte) switch airplane mode off and on, and reboot. Reboot works most often. When I'm on wifi and on cdma mode, the verizon data stays connected. But either way my battery (always on cdma) dies in less than 10 hours
If you use your phone outside then you'll like the Bionic screen.
I don't have an opinion if you are in a 4G area.
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Has any other TB owner noticed how great this phone is in direct sunlight? The TB was tough to use outside.
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Can you please elaborate on this point? I have a TBolt and it is impossible to read the screen in sunlight. How readable is the Bionic?
It's so bright you can read it outside with sunglasses on. It does however have a funny hue to it with sunglasses on that I don't have with the Thunderbolt
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jonno95 said:
It's so bright you can read it outside with sunglasses on. It does however have a funny hue to it with sunglasses on that I don't have with the Thunderbolt
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I didn't notice any hue with my Oakley's. Love being able to see the screen with them on.
In direct sunlight with sunglasses on it is very readable. I've never seen a smart phone screen this viewable in the sun.
I have a TB that I just went back to. Bionic is better, but with locked bootloader, wifi tether issues, and price, it isn't worth using my upgrade IMO. Now, if I wasn't already on a 4 g device like my old droid x, then I would say get a bionic, you will love it.
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I have a TB that I just went back to. Bionic is better, but with locked bootloader, wifi tether issues, and price, it isn't worth using my upgrade IMO. Now, if I wasn't already on a 4 g device like my old droid x, then I would say get a bionic, you will love it.
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I am having that exact debate with myself. Already having a 4g device do I need this phone? Call quality is 100 times better though.
Having full control of my TB is nice. I can tether at will and talk and surf on 3g.
Hey guys, I wanted help from native Bionic users. I have an HTC Tbolt and VZN sent me the Bionic as a warranty replacement due to issues with the Tbolt. I would like to get some advice as to what is good about the Bionic compaired to HTC phones. I am a bit apprehensive of keeping it due to the locked bootloader and the small amount of freedom the devs have, BUT I do like the speeds and the feel of it.
What are your thoughts? Oh and I did the sqlite hack for the mobile hotspot, will that cause issues with VZN(has anyone used that for more than a month yet?).
Thanks for all your help, I look forward to hopefully joining this community.
First.. I own both... TB and BIONIC..
I am currently using my TB as my Bionic isn't holding a data connection.
While the TB can sometimes still have "slow" 3G <-> 4G hand offs (usually no more than 5 to 10 seconds TOPS), they are not as slow as the Bionic (20 to 30 seconds IF it finishes the switch) and the TB does NOT loose data connection completely, nor does it need toggling airplane mode or a batter pull to get data back. (Bionic will loose data/mobile connection and I wont get emails, VVM notification, text messages, and can't surf the web or use apps that must have network connection. When this happens it takes toggling air plane mode, and/or a battery pull of over 30 seconds, to get it back which is something that NEVER happened on my TB).
The Bionic does feel ever so slightly faster when using it and navigating the UI, but putting them side by side, launching the same app on each, the TB either keeps up or gets it done faster.
In good 4G areas, when the Bionic has/holds 4G, its down load speeds are slightly faster (15mbp vs 12mbp) than the TB.
The camera on the Bionic (with stock software) lags for focus. And its pictures are no where near as good/sharp/rich as the TB's camera.
I'm waiting on the official Bionic update to try it again.
Only issue I still have with the TB is the "slow" GPS location lock. Sometimes it can take almost a minute to accurately (within 5meters) show my location in Google Maps.
BOTH phones were free to me, so I'm not out any money either way.
As for the SQLite hack for tethering... there is a thread out there which pretty much says that is USE AT YOUR OWN RISK and VZW can see that... will they do anything? I don't know. But apparently its safer to just use the Android Wireless Tether for Root app, and change the device profile setting
This seems to me like you might have something wrong w/ your bionic. I have a bionic and my parents each have Thunderbolts. My bionic doesn't have "slow 3G <> 4G hand offs". Most of the time, the switch is so seamless for me that I don't even realize it until I'm going at the 3G speeds. The only times I have any data connectivity issues at all are when I'm in an area where signal sucks. These problems happen w/ everyone's phones in those areas, though.
Also, 15 mbps is considerably slower than what my bionic regularly reaches. Both in IL and in TN (I'm regularly in both) I see 20mbps+ consistently. The camera in my bionic is easily as good or better than both of my parents' thunderbolts as well. If there is any difference in the pictures they take, it's so small that it's a moot point.
Both are good phones. The bionic is easily the better.
From my understanding, editing to get the mobile hotspot won't do anything, as I have done that too and I travel a lot so thats a great benefit
Also, I think its a much different beast from the Thunderbolt. You've got more performance, but my opinion is that so much of that potential is held back by a skin.
Motoblur is better than it has been, but it is still nowhere near a custom stock ROM.
I think you'll enjoy it though, as I switched from the TB to Bionic (and hopefully Galaxy Nexus soon)
I also have both phones and I ALWAYS end up back on the Tbolt. I am also anxiously awaiting the Bionic update as it does have MANY issues at the present. I would suggest you put in a request to have your Tbolt replaced. It is a much more rugged phone and has less issues.
I'm finally happy with my bionic after having 6 t bolts. The t bolt has horrible call and sound quality, poor build quality (audio jacks and power buttons messed up on all 6). There are a few things better about the t bolt but overall the bionic is a much better phone. The only things I miss are the screen, multiple audio profiles for headphones/speaker, and the power control widget options in the notification bar.
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Hey guys, I wanted help from native Bionic users. I have an HTC Tbolt and VZN sent me the Bionic as a warranty replacement due to issues with the Tbolt. I would like to get some advice as to what is good about the Bionic compaired to HTC phones. I am a bit apprehensive of keeping it due to the locked bootloader and the small amount of freedom the devs have, BUT I do like the speeds and the feel of it.
What are your thoughts? Oh and I did the sqlite hack for the mobile hotspot, will that cause issues with VZN(has anyone used that for more than a month yet?).
Thanks for all your help, I look forward to hopefully joining this community.
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Ha ha
I started the same type of thread over on the Tbolt side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370600
Just bought a bionic last night for 325 with the verizon case and extended battery. Came from the bolt and I must say... I love this phone thus far.. I think it feels like a better build quality than the bolt.. It's definitely faster.. I have no had any data drops..
I have noticed the transitions from 3 to 4g are slow but I don't have to transition much due to good coverage wherever I'm at.. I did find it weird that the 4g icon stays on even when you have wifi enabled? And battery life I'm unsure about..I've only had the phone for 12 hours.
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I believe the 4g icon stays, but if you notice it goes white when on WiFi (indicating that 4g is actually off).
I went back to the tbolt as where I live it keeps 4G signal, intact I don't think I've lost 4G signal once, and with the bionic it was doing data drops like crazy. Plus, I get better battery life on the tbolt because of being able to use custom kernels. Also? My tbolt runs much faster overclocked to 1.7Ghz than the bionic running at 1Ghz with dual cores. Tbolt has issues, yes, but this is why I am following the rezound closely as it seems to be a better made phone and soon as it gets s-off I will buy it. I think personally HTC makes better radios than Motorola, and yet everyone always states the opposite.
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I think it has to do with area and phones. I consistently get better reception and call quality with Motorola. Both the Bionic and my old Droid X performed better than my Bolt did. Also, the bluetooth and WiFi reception are better with the Motos than my Bolt. If I was in your area, who knows?
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I think it has to do with area and phones. I consistently get better reception and call quality with Motorola. Both the Bionic and my old Droid X performed better than my Bolt did. Also, the bluetooth and WiFi reception are better with the Motos than my Bolt. If I was in your area, who knows?
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This is my experience as well, my old X was as good as my t bolt, if the X had 4g and more memory I wouldn't have "upgraded" to the t bolt.
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I think it has to do with area and phones. I consistently get better reception and call quality with Motorola. Both the Bionic and my old Droid X performed better than my Bolt did. Also, the bluetooth and WiFi reception are better with the Motos than my Bolt. If I was in your area, who knows?
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Things may be different now, but 2 months ago when I had my t bolt you had to choose, better performance or better battery life. Some kernels had amazing battery life but horrible performance and others had bad battery life and great performance. With the bionic I have great performance and good battery life with no trade off. I get better battery life on my bionic and I always have 4g on, with my t bolt I rarely had 4g on because it rarely picked up 4g signal unlike my bionic.
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Just bought a bionic last night for 325 with the verizon case and extended battery. Came from the bolt and I must say... I love this phone thus far.. I think it feels like a better build quality than the bolt.. It's definitely faster.. I have no had any data drops..
I have noticed the transitions from 3 to 4g are slow but I don't have to transition much due to good coverage wherever I'm at.. I did find it weird that the 4g icon stays on even when you have wifi enabled? And battery life I'm unsure about..I've only had the phone for 12 hours.
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I have to agree. I am still on the Bionic and have not had the need to even to root yet. Battery life is great and happy with the UI so far.
I am currently overclocked to 1.7Ghz on the tbolt with Imoseyions lean kernel, smartass governor. 1 day, 10hours, with 38% battery life left. On the bionic with the extended battery I never got past 22 hours. I have the stock tbolt battery. I know quadrant isn't always accurate, but the bionic always did about 2200-2500 score. On liberty or eclipse. 5.7.893 update. My tbolt current clocking does 3500 score consistently.
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I am currently overclocked to 1.7Ghz on the tbolt with Imoseyions lean kernel, smartass governor. 1 day, 10hours, with 38% battery life left. On the bionic with the extended battery I never got past 22 hours. I have the stock tbolt battery. I know quadrant isn't always accurate, but the bionic always did about 2200-2500 score. On liberty or eclipse. 5.7.893 update. My tbolt current clocking does 3500 score consistently.
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Your lucky to get 1.7 out of a t bolt, I had 6 and only 2 could clock to 1.4, 2 clocked at 1.2, 1 at 1 ghz, and 1 had to be underclocked at 800 mhz to be stable. I tried Imoseyions lean kernel and it got great battery life, it just had horrible performance even at 1.4. I had the best combo of performance and battery life with stock BAMF stripped roms at 1 ghz, non stripped BAMF roms had to be clocked at 1.2 to be as smooth.
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Your lucky to get 1.7 out of a t bolt, I had 6 and only 2 could clock to 1.4, 2 clocked at 1.2, 1 at 1 ghz, and 1 had to be underclocked at 800 mhz to be stable. I tried Imoseyions lean kernel and it got great battery life, it just had horrible performance even at 1.4. I had the best combo of performance and battery life with stock BAMF stripped roms at 1 ghz, non stripped BAMF roms had to be clocked at 1.2 to be as smooth.
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Heh. I am running protekks modded cm7 and my phone handles 1.7 fine. It does eventually lock up on 1.9 though. 1.7 is as high as I can go stable.
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I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich on my Bionic thanks to DHacker!
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I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich on my Bionic thanks to DHacker!
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That isn't real ICS...just to let you know...
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That isn't real ICS...just to let you know...
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Lol feels real to me, I couldn't possibly be typing on it, if it was fake
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my opinion is tb is a lot better (lot of choices). The bionic even with the dual core cpu and all the hardware it has is the most boring phone i ever had. Honestly i never read anything interesting about it.So im waiting for the next htc smartphone to get rid of this mistake.This is just my opinion and im not trying to offend anybody.
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I just noticed LTE working in Los Angeles. After I restarted my phone, and literally did a double-take when I saw my phone was on LTE. Enjoy!
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I just noticed LTE working in Los Angeles. After I restarted my phone, and literally did a double-take when I saw my phone was on LTE. Enjoy!
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Post speet test results
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I was just about to post the same for Orange County. Just came on hours ago. Speed test yielded 20,000 for down but was having trouble finishing the up test.
Ahh, gotta love how AT&T is spreading LTE faster then they said they would... their determined.
Also, has anyone noticed lag on the Vivid? I've had lag while just switching home screens, and I was playing with an Evo 3D at best buy today, had no lag switching home screens, opens apps, even scrolling through the app drawer.... Maybe I should do a factory reset.
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Ahh, gotta love how AT&T is spreading LTE faster then they said they would... their determined.
Also, has anyone noticed lag on the Vivid? I've had lag while just switching home screens, and I was playing with an Evo 3D at best buy today, had no lag switching home screens, opens apps, even scrolling through the app drawer.... Maybe I should do a factory reset.
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I do like the early LTE deployment here, really didn't think SoCal would be getting LTE until middle of next year.
Regarding the lag, not really experiencing any at all. Like most here, I'm actually surprised how smooth the Vivid is right out of the box. You probably need to do a factory reset to bring the speed back.
Longcat14 said:
Ahh, gotta love how AT&T is spreading LTE faster then they said they would... their determined.
Also, has anyone noticed lag on the Vivid? I've had lag while just switching home screens, and I was playing with an Evo 3D at best buy today, had no lag switching home screens, opens apps, even scrolling through the app drawer.... Maybe I should do a factory reset.
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Even at the time of all the hype about Galaxy Nexus (Droid Prime), AT&T LTE seemed like a distant future. I love it how AT&T got 2 devices out, and rolled out LTE, before the Galaxy Nexus became available. It still isn't shipping!
I'm pulling around 18mbps in orange county..... But its intermittent...
Clearly just a test, but cool to see.
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Screen capped after LTE went off... So lost icon.
It's been coming and going for about an hour.
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I was just about to post the same for Orange County. Just came on hours ago. Speed test yielded 20,000 for down but was having trouble finishing the up test.
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Ok that's just creepy
Check out my location. Lol
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Ok that's just creepy
Check out my location. Lol
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ha, looks like we were around the same location.
That LTE test did show that its not faster than my wifi though.... I'm on FiOS and pull 20-25 mbps
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That LTE test did show that its not faster than my wifi though.... I'm on FiOS and pull 20-25 mbps
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I would agree, I thought LTE would pull around 30 to 40ish. But 20 is close to what I'm getting with my cable, but the upload does beat the 2 that I'm getting from home.
Keep in mind it is just a test run, speeds may vary with full launch and network saturation etc.
Drew
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Hmm... it could be that you guys don't officially have LTE yet.
I had one bar of LTE when I did this speedtest
Amazing speeds.
And I hate that I probably have to do a factory reset... but if I want that speed back, I'll do it.
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That LTE test did show that its not faster than my wifi though.... I'm on FiOS and pull 20-25 mbps
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Wait, what?
You expected LTE to perform better than your home internet?! Did I miss something here?
I'd be surprised if it even comes remotely close, judging how crappy mobile data speeds have been ever since I've been using it.
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Wait, what?
You expected LTE to perform better than your home internet?! Did I miss something here?
I'd be surprised if it even comes remotely close, judging how crappy mobile data speeds have been ever since I've been using it.
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Ha, as funny as it sounds, yes we are expecting it to be faster. From some of the tests I've seen with the LTE, it is able to do upwards of 45 (but that's with no load) I'm getting 25 down and 2 up from my cable at home, and so far in my area the best I've seen is 20 down and 5 up.
My home internet is 2.5mbps (AT&T DSL). So my LTE device now is 4x faster when it does a meager 10mbps in Los Angeles.
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Wait, what?
You expected LTE to perform better than your home internet?! Did I miss something here?
I'd be surprised if it even comes remotely close, judging how crappy mobile data speeds have been ever since I've been using it.
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Considering the post just above yours show's precisely that...
AND the fact that I routinely get 7-8mbps with peaks of 10-11mbps on hspa+
Yes, yes I did expect LTE to be more than twice as fast as hspa.
And yes I did expect the speeds I have seen others get.
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Sooooo...
It's still on.
I expected it to be gone when I woke up this morning... But I'm still rockin the LTE badge..
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Wait, what?
You expected LTE to perform better than your home internet?! Did I miss something here?
I'd be surprised if it even comes remotely close, judging how crappy mobile data speeds have been ever since I've been using it.
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so i have had the charge for about 3 months love the screen pretty decent phone however my father in law offered to trade me for the bionic it has not been rooted has the most recent update can anyone tell what your opionions are has the update really solved the data issue or no do you regret going to the bionic biggest thing that makes me wanna jump ship is the fact that there will eventually be a official ics charge will never get it as far as i know anyway so how has the data been working howmany times do you lose data through out the day and for how long how the battery etc.. thanks need some insight before leaping
Do it and don't look back. I had the Charge for a few months and switched to the Bionic. For the first time in a long time I am happy with my device.
What about data how has it been working for you? That is my biggest issue ill probably just stay stock first phone in about 2 years I probably would be OK staying stock
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more responses would be appreciated....
Had the charge . Loved it! rooted it and what not .
Then the bionic came out (;
I have both. I swap a ton cause I'm learning to modify roms on the bionic, and the charge lets me still have an active phone while the bionic is in progress.
Both have data issues. Bionic is a far better device. Charge is slightly more consistent with holding data connection.
I'm in a 3g only area.
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Im in the same boat as the OP. I have the charge and tech support is sending me a bionic as a replacement. I am really hoping that data is much more consistent than the charges and doesn't drop nearly as much. I used to have the d2g and loved it except the random reboots. Does the bionic suffer from the same reboot issues?
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Wishing more people would pipe in :'(
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I've had both phones as well. The Bionic is the overall better device. The smoothness and speed of the device made it a clear choice over the Charge. Of course the Charge has a beautiful screen, but the Bionic screen isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
The recent update has fixed my data issues. No longer any need for me to toggle data or do random reboots in order to use my data. The battery life seems to be about the same, except for the fact that I don't have to jump through as many hoops (black wallpapers, lower screen brightness, turning off animations, and etc.) in order to get the Bionic to last all day. Go with the Bionic.
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Sweet I appreciate the feedback
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I bought the charge as an upgrade and have had many different issues with it. Battery life, call drops, screeching during calls, data outages etc. Bought a Bionic and would not go back. The gps alone is worth the swap. Connects in about 5 seconds.
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Never had data issue with bionic. I get kicked out of 4g all the time with charge and I had to airplane tackle or restart it all the time.
I had the Charge for a few months and was upgraded to the Bionic. I like the Bionic better, especially since the update. Data and a few other issues have been fixed on my Bionic! I really didn't notice much difference between the screens. For me, the Bionic is brighter than the Charge. The Charge, and I had three, seemed to get slightly better reception than the Bionic. I'm guessing it may have a better antenna. I also prefer the Samsung overlay to Motorola's. The Charge has a button to restart the phone, rather than just turn off. The Charge has an option for BCCing yourself on all emails. The Bionic does not. It's simple things like that that are missing on the Bionic. The Bionic is more powerful and has a longer useable lifespan. I plan to purchase an android tablet. Because of where I think Andoid is headed, I want both phone and tablet to have the same operating system. Because of this, having a phone that will be upgraded to ICS is important.
Even though the Charge is slightly more useable and may have a slightly better antenna, I found the Bionic to be slightly more reliable. With the upgrade to ICS coming and a dual core processor, the Bionic is my clear favorite between the two phones.
I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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You forgot the LTE radio.
You also get ICS and Webtop support iirc
4g lte is major...
Will the Droid 4 be a Global phone again?
Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
What about the screen?
Another problem is that D4's LTE is only good for Verizon.
DYP, screen seems to be the same as D3's. Screenshots clearly showed pentile matrix and specs say TFT - so it must be the same crappy screen as D3.
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Dri94 said:
i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Yeah i agree its faster but it pretty much is an upgraded 3g like it not always works. It sometimes drops. Data bills increase. Idk man i just dont really care for it. And yeah battery life decreases tremendously but once people are able to flash stuff for it it will improve. I feel like 4g has alot of improvement to do not gonna lie
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cant lie about lots of that. 4g is a great technology, its the carriers that arent using it to its full potential. If you look at the actual 4g capable speeds and the speeds the carriers are letting us have, you will be even more disappointed lol.
The battery sucking isses will hopefully be obsolete once carriers get more heavily engaged in research using fuel cells.
Everyone says the Droid 4 is what the Droid 3 should have been.
For my part, yeah, it kind of gets on my nerves, but not too much. 1G of RAM would be nice, but I rarely run out with 512MB. I don't stream multimedia, so 3g is fast enough for me.
And the price was nice, $150 with a data plan. So I have no complaints.
As things stand now, the Droid 4 will probably be my next phone in a year or or so.
jarzy00 said:
I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
I didn't know about that. Yeah, that's pretty sexy. It's annoying when I get/make a lot of calls and my IRC session constantly drops.
phrir1 said:
What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
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jarzy00 said:
Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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Dri94 said:
i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Battery life is not the only problem. I bought a Bionic in early October but had regular issues with random data drops - so that I had no LTE, 3G or 1X - in area where I know there is strong and solid Verizon 3G. There was also a nationwide, 24 hour data outage when I was ten days in. I exchanged the Bionic for the D3 because it was the best 3G phone on Verizon.
Since then there have been two more nationwide LTE outages (which also takes out 3G for the LTE phone, but not for 3G phones), and the Bionic forums are filled with people still complaining about random data drops. (Apparently this is fixed with an LTE SIM swap, but who has time to keep going in to Verizon for a new SIM?) Meanwhile, my D3 has been a solid, solid, solid data device every since I got it in mid-October.
LTE is still not mature and I think I'll be happier locked in to a solid 3G phone like the D3 rather than an immature LTE phone (because surely the hardware and network will get better in the next year or so) for the next 20 or so months. I would be happier if the D3 had been 1 GB RAM, but I don't feel it's that big a deal. I can tell you that it's frustrating when you need data access somewhere and find that the phone isn't getting data where you know that it should be.
If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity. That said, I like having a removal battery. I like that I have the choice to buy the extended. I think Droid 4 will be a bust tbqh. More memory would be nice but with Dpwhitty11's ROM, I don't have a need for it.
I don't honestly care. Hash has the ICS ROM coming along well and when it has the camera to me it will be perfectly stable for an Alpha. I am glad that it works and yeah 4G would be nice but I don't care honestly.
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I do believe that someone is working on a ics rom for the RAZR. so assuming that the 2 phones will be comparable it should be relatively easy for someone to port it over to the droid 4 "ASSUMING" they are going to be similar.
Razr will get official ICS support, not sure why anyone would work on it on their own. It would merely be a waste of their time.
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If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity.
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3G connectivity is still affected by LTE outages on LTE phones. If LTE is down (as I believe it was again toady), 3G almost always is as well, though it is not for 3G-only phones. I also had as many random data drops with CDMA only mode as I did with LTE/CDMA on the Bionic.