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Only had my note for about 24 hours, coming from a gs2.
The only thing bumming me out is that I can't one hand this guy at all. Is the nexus that much easier to hold with one hand if at all?
I have the Note and Galaxy Nexus w/ ICS. The nexus is much easier for one handed but the keyboard S***s. I have installed other keyboards but will not change. Nexus nice but needs some tweaking, also a lot of menus on the top of the screen which is a bummer for one handed. Kinda like the Iphone, always needing to go to the top of the screen which I dislike. Hook up a Platronics HD head phone and you will be surprised what can be done over bluetooth, ie respond to a text while the phone stays in your pocket
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Bluetooth on the NOTE
So your saying because ICS lacks the menu key, the apps put the menu key functionality in the top right of the screen? I can JUST reach that corner on my GS2's 4.2, there is no way I will be able to with a 4.65.
Not having both devices in hand, I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to send my note back for a nexus. Any other thoughts you have in the "vs" department? Does the nexus feel more like a gs2 in its pocketablity or is it just a little smaller feeling than the note?
doing an OVA update on the Nexus. Checkout update and then post a pic of the nexus screen vrs S ll screen on the menu issue.
Looks like if you can swipe task bar easily then no problem getting to the three squares (menu).
I have both, Nexus obviously much better for one-handed use if that is the main criteria.
Thanks for the replys guys. I had a couple more questions.
Does text on the nexus websites (like engadget) appear sharper when zoomed all the way out because of the higher dPi?
Is the curved glass not much of a advantage?
How much lighter is the nexus? My note feels like a brick next to the gs2.
Can you see the same pentile matrix grid effect (if that what it is) on solid colors?
Do you live in Portland and I can come compare
If you had to pick one device to be your daily driver until the galaxy s3 comes out what would it be? I've sold my gs2 so can keep or return my note for a nexus. I really can't decide. I remote desktop a ton and the pen is kind of a letdown for that, its almost too responsive and bounces around making right clicking or even double clicking difficult. I find myself pinch zooming and finger taping anyway.
Thanks for any input you have, I'm running out of time to decide if I want to return my nite for a nexus.
sportedwood said:
Thanks for the replys guys. I had a couple more questions.
Does text on the nexus websites (like engadget) appear sharper when zoomed all the way out because of the higher dPi?
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Yes, but obviously it's a lot smaller than on the Note at that zoom so readability difference between them is moot for me.
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Is the curved glass not much of a advantage?
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No advantage, I love how it looks but in practice doesn't add anything.
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How much lighter is the nexus? My note feels like a brick next to the gs2.
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A lot lighter. Goes without saying really, difference feels similar to the SGSII to Note difference (Nexus slightly heavier than the SGSII, but basically similar).
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effect (if that what it is) on solid colors?
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I don't think it's pentile, I think it's all SAMOLED screens, the SGSII has the same uneven tone on solid colours (particularly noticeable on lower brightness settings and grey backgrounds). At any rate the Nexus definitely has this.
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Do you live in Portland and I can come compare
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No and no, sorry
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If you had to pick one device to be your daily driver until the galaxy s3 comes out what would it be? I've sold my gs2 so can keep or return my note for a nexus. I really can't decide. I remote desktop a ton and the pen is kind of a letdown for that, its almost too responsive and bounces around making right clicking or even double clicking difficult. I find myself pinch zooming and finger taping anyway.
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Note for me, Nexus has too many compromises for my personal usage (no expandable memory, camera not very good, worse GPU/CPU, worse GPS), but depending on your needs it may suit you.
When i used the nexus 7 first i was sad that the screen isn't vibrant as the competition. They got everything right but the main thing wrong. Today i realized that they didnt get the screen wrong
I has a book for college in a pdf format. I decided to read it on the my cousins ipad 3 rather than my laptop thinking it will be cool bexause of the "RETINA" display. I read for 5 minutes then stopped. If i would have have carried on i would have gone blind. Then i thought hmmm let do in in the nexus. Reading book on laptop is pointless and boy was i amazed.
The screen was amazing for the book and didnt hurt my eyes at all and from now i am a Perfectly satisfied Nexus 7 Customer.
Google... You are Awesome
I read all the time on my iPad 3 and my eyes never hurt. Not sure how better calibrated colors are causing you problems reading PDF files.
I never really saw much of a huge difference between the vibrance of displays with the n7 vs other tablets... And this is coming from someone who's gets yearly for blindness tests. Glad to hear it works for you though!
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I don't have much of a comparison to the ipad other then I know this is easier to hold, but I do know I read know more now than ever before in my life because of this thing. It's just so easy and comfortable.
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Did you try changing the brightness of the ipad at all? I've read plenty on my ipad and never had a problem. The nexus has a good display but it does lacks little in contrast and colors. But it's good enough for what I use it for.
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buggatti said:
When i used the nexus 7 first i was sad that the screen isn't vibrant as the competition. They got everything right but the main thing wrong. Today i realized that they didnt get the screen wrong
I has a book for college in a pdf format. I decided to read it on the my cousins ipad 3 rather than my laptop thinking it will be cool bexause of the "RETINA" display. I read for 5 minutes then stopped. If i would have have carried on i would have gone blind. Then i thought hmmm let do in in the nexus. Reading book on laptop is pointless and boy was i amazed.
The screen was amazing for the book and didnt hurt my eyes at all and from now i am a Perfectly satisfied Nexus 7 Customer.
Google... You are Awesome
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I agree. My big brother & his wife has a Ipad 1 (mom & me got for wife's bday), which I sometimes use when at their house. That thing is a PAIN. I much prefer my Nexus 7, much better to use and hold in hand. Now my big b uses my Nexus EVERYTIME I'm at his house.
Poor Ipad
I have used both and have no problems with either device. Was a tough decision to buy the nexus after using my friends ipad 3. In the end it came down to portability and price. I can fit my nexus in my big coat pocket and head off to Uni. Its great
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Its not a bad screen but my one x does put it to shame!
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Its not a bad screen but my one x does put it to shame!
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N7 screen is great ，but Ipad 2 better than N7 .
Here's what many professional analysis results found regarding the Nexus 7.
The display "hardware" is exceptional!!! There is no debate there.
But the firmware display calibration is "lousy" and thus impacts the display negatively for those that are wanting a much better color match. So if Google fixed this in a future update, then the display would move to the forefront of the 7" pack.
Here's hoping that an update results the calibration issues and pushes this display to the top of the 7" pack.
I have a KFHD7 and N7 in hand right now. Side by side, they are almost comparable. The N7 auto brightness is very aggressive and keeps the screen very dimmed. If you adjust your own brightness, the colors on the N7 will come through, however the KFHD has more contrast creating slightly more vibrant colors and deeper blacks. Something like that could be fixed with color calibration software. I'm honestly liking the N7 over the KFHD. Yes, the KFHD has better colors and definitely better sound, but I like the size and thinness of the N7. Feels much lighter and less bulky.
Well I received my nexus 4 from carphone warehouse today, the box itself is very very simple but sleek. The box is pretty loose compared to the box of the nexus 7 which was pretty tight, when. You open the box you are presented with the shiny new monster and comes with USB cable, adapter and guidebook, I noticed straight away after a deep inspection that there is a small gap between the glass and the phone itself. This worries me as it seems easy to get dirt and dust dragged into it, which I have already noticed. The phone itself is very slippery when placed on open palm due to its glass finish. But when held the rubbery sides help enough to get a grip, the rubber is very smooth but its fine to grip! The pattern on the back isn't as obvious as I thought it would be. It only truly shines when held In a Direct source of light which makes it look so..... Futuristic. The UI itself is what you would expect. Stock android. The ability to add widgets to the lock screen is very nice, so is the quick access to the camera from swiping to the side.
Overall I am pleased with the design of the nexus 4, it. Looks really thin, despite not being a super thin smartphone, this is due to the awesome curves and design.
The camera is good enough. Not amazing but certainly better than other 8mp units. As for video capture it seems to catch very good detail. And the low frame rate is not too noticeable. Photo sphere is also great. But requires ALOT of effort if you want to get a perfect sphere.
The battery life so far is very reasonable. Enough to get through the day easy with moderate to heavy useage.
The keyboard is very very easy to use. The best if anything. Swipe input is fluid and never fails increasing typing speeds up to 25% faster.
The display is crisp. Although you will struggle to say it is better than the S3 from a normal distance. Videos and photos look great and shows great detail.
Overall this phone is the best I have ever had, and I have owned phones such as the S3, one X and xperia S. Although I did find multi touch to be faster on the S3. Benchmark scores are odd. I was expecting it to roast the competition. But it failed to do so, instead it was on par with the transformer prime on antutu. If you would like a video review too. Please let me know and hit the thanks button
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Just waiting for the 32GB version this year otherwise I'll just get a GS4 next year.
in your opinion,best display on nexus 4 or one x?
Colours seem to have higher contrast on the one X but looks more crisp on nexus 4
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Colours seem to have higher contrast on the one X but looks more crisp on nexus 4
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I like crisp better
technostein said:
Colours seem to have higher contrast on the one X but looks more crisp on nexus 4
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according with GSM Arena display tests the optimus G/nexus 4 has the best LCD display avaiable
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And the low frame rate is not too noticeable.
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Low frame rate was fixed in the latest 4.2 OTA. Have you updated yet? It should be a solid 30 fps now compared to 22 fps and randomly dropped frames before the final 4.2 update.
Yeah its a great display! And I did update. I still had a few dropped frames but it was very smooth. I said low frame rate as I guessed from reviews its been hammered into my head that it has low frame rate lol. Will look in more detail tomorrow at it
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Low frame rate was fixed in the latest 4.2 OTA. Have you updated yet? It should be a solid 30 fps now compared to 22 fps and randomly dropped frames before the final 4.2 update.
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I would assume since he can add widgets to the lock screen, probably.
Edit: Beat me to it, lol.
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I would assume since he can add widgets to the lock screen, probably.
Edit: Beat me to it, lol.
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True, good point!
Hows the focus/shutter speed on the camera? Does it point & shoot well?
Focusing isn't a issue. The shutter is fast enough. Although not instant. You need to focus first otherwise you risk a blurry shot.
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What do you mean by multi touch being slower than on the S3? Gestures like pinch to zoom?
Also how do you find the size and the aspect ratio of the display after using an S3?
+1 for the video review too .
Yeah pinch to zoom it seems to require more effort. And the device feels so much easier to hold! The aspect ratio is not as good. But that's just been a tad picky.
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Here are some screenshots of my battery life and lock screen UI
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technostein, I bet you forgot to bake cookies and make icecream...
I think he means that touch sensitivity isnt as high in general. I'm coming from an s3 and have a n4 and I agree. Its very responsive when typing etc though!
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Lmao that isn't my calendar that's one of those example screenshots mate! And yeah that's right glad you agree
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Anyone noticing a screen door effect with their LCD screen? Mine definitely has it, wondering if this is normal. My last two phones have been AMOLED, so I'm not sure.
Do you mean like this?
Nexus 4 has a pattern on the display.
(I'm trying to consolidate all these threads as more and more people finally get their hands on the phone)
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Do you mean like this?
Nexus 4 has a pattern on the display.
(I'm trying to consolidate all these threads as more and more people finally get their hands on the phone)
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No, it's not dots like the digitizer. It's very fine horizontal and vertical lines like seen on some cheap TN panel monitors.
Unfortunately it's so fine I doubt I could capture it with a picture. But it seems to detract from the sharpness of the screen.
Guessing it's just me. I assume if I think my Galaxy Nexus screen looks better than the Nexus 4, then I probably got a defective Nexus 4. RMA time it seems.
I'm cursed. Had to RMA my Galaxy Nexus a couple times because of the purple effect. My Nexus 7 because of the lifted glass, now this. Ugh.
If I look close, I can make out a very slight screen door effect at times. I'm guessing all of them have this to some extent, but maybe it's worse on yours if it's so noticeable as to bother you.
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No, it's not dots like the digitizer. It's very fine horizontal and vertical lines like seen on some cheap TN panel monitors.
Unfortunately it's so fine I doubt I could capture it with a picture. But it seems to detract from the sharpness of the screen.
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I've noticed it.... Thought I was the only one loll
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Is it as bad as the pentile screens like gs3 or note?
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Can't see it at all on mine, although I'm coming from a 50 dollar cheapo Optimus V so this thing just looks incredible no matter what lol
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Well good news for me, I no longer see this issue on my screen. It seems to have cleared up and it looks sharp and clear now. *Whew* I'm happy and love the screen.
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Well good news for me, I no longer see this issue on my screen. It seems to have cleared up and it looks sharp and clear now. *Whew* I'm happy and love the screen.
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I can definitely see it on mine, grays make it pop out more. It's not too bad to warrant the hassle of trying an exchange, though.
Not sure why it would clear up by itself, but if it does I am not gonna mind it
My LG thrill has that, and so does the HTC inspire.
Its normal I guess
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Is it as bad as the pentile screens like gs3 or note?
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No way, not even close to as bad as pentile.
I also see these vertical lines. Been driving me crazy when I focus on them. No worries though. Great phone.
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I can definitely see it on mine, grays make it pop out more. It's not too bad to warrant the hassle of trying an exchange, though.
Not sure why it would clear up by itself, but if it does I am not gonna mind it
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You are right, it didn't. I think after using a while, I started seeing past it. Then I was messing around with my Galaxy Nexus and tablet. Then went back to the phone and I can notice those lines again.
It also depends on what I'm looking at. It really stands out looking at the XDA forums, on the brown colors (I'm using the XDA 2010 theme).
Hey guys I just want to let you guys know my experience with the Optimus G and the Nexus 4. My situation was a bit funny as I didn't get both phones at the same time so my usage for each phone was very exclusive. I spent a week with the Optimus G (2 Optimus Gs in one week LOL) and afterwards a few days with the Nexus 4.
Optimus G Experience
I first got the Optimus G because the Nexus 4 wasn't available and I really liked the look of the phone, it was sleek and the buttons were really great to press. LG put some effort into their UI and it had some pretty great features like the multi-window and the quickmemo note taker.
I would've kept it but there were some funky problems/bugs with touchscreen responsiveness. I don't think it was an issue with sensitivity but I think it was the way some of the UI elements were designed. Typing was fine but when navigating and swiping, you weirdly lose a swipe or two. Enough to be annoying. There was one point where the touchscreen stopped responding completely to my touch. That was weird. I don't know if it was a static charge thing cause I was wiping the phone down quite a bit and plastic was all over it, or a defective touch screen but after doing a recovery using the KDZ LG update thing, it fixed itself. Needless to say that freaked me out so I went and returned the device and got an exchange. The second device never had that issue but it still had the issue with missing a swipe here and there. The great thing though was the performance in games. It gave me a consistent experience through NFS: Most Wanted and other intensive games. The screen was also damn great.
The visual design of the Optimus G is awesome. It looks awesome and premium. Doesn't feel too awesome though, it actually sorta feels gross. Everything about the phone was glossy, therefore oils would totally cling to it and cause a really slippery, gross feeling phone unless you wiped it down every hour or so. The buttons were pretty darn good to press and felt solid. The phone was thin but that caused me to feel the back a bit too much and usually the back was really warm. So the whole holding experience of the phone is warm, oily, and smudgy. My hand is usually dry but the phone still oiled up like a sumo wrestler. Sounds great doesn't it?
In conclusion with the Optimus G, looked good, performed great, but its UI hampered the usage, the lack of users prevented a large following thus reducing development, and the holding experience of the phone was really bad. In the end, I did return the Optimus G.
Nexus 4 Experience
I managed to get my hands on a Nexus 4 a couple days after returning the Optimus G. Was extermely excited to use it. The one I got was defect free it seems with no yellow tint. After the Optimus G however, the design of it was a bit weird with the curved glass and it was definitely bulkier than the OG. Using it for a couple days here's what I noticed:
Man that stock android experience is just too smooth and there is really nothing that can compare to untouched Jellybean. It was just really responsive when tapping and swiping. So I couldn't fault the OS here, despite the lack of built in features such as multi-window (Q-slide in Optimus G) but there's probably an app for that. 4.2 does have its share of bugs though but nothing too crazy.
Visually the phone looks good but again, I did not like the curved glass that much as it sorta promotes scratching on the edges as screen protectors usually can't cover it properly. At first I didn't like the wider and a bit bulkier Nexus 4 compared to the Optimus G but after using it, the phone feels REALLY good holding it. The soft touch plastic was thick enough and curved in a way that the hand was not always on the back of the glass and allowed the hand a bit of breathing room so that it wouldn't get too warm. The soft touch plastic is not oil prone so you don't feel as icky. So the holding experience was great. The buttons on the other hand is a different story and I wish it had the same clicky feeling of the Optimus G but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
The performance of the phone was good but not quite as good as the Optimus G due to, yes, throttling. Although I like to have my phone as stock as possible and performing properly out of the box, I know the community for the phone will help it in the long run as it is a Nexus device and work out some of the issues.
In conclusion, the Nexus 4 has great software, great community, and feels great in the hand. The things I wish it did better are: buttons, some performance issues, and hopefully the edges of the screen won't scratch in the future. Otherwise it's a great phone that I think I'll be keeping.
That's a nice write up, thanks for sharing.
Rik.
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Multi-tasking on the Nexus 4 is second to none. Do you mean multi-window?
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Multi-tasking on the Nexus 4 is second to none. Do you mean multi-window?
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Yeah my bad. That's exactly what I mean. Changed it.
Hm...do you mean the Optimus G has slippery body frame, too? Different from the rubbery body frame of Nexus 4?
That's a shame really.
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Hm...do you mean the Optimus G has slippery body frame, too? Different from the rubbery body frame of Nexus 4?
That's a shame really.
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Yeah the body frame is glossy/slippery as well.
In pretty sure that multi window will be in key lime pie anyways
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Nice write .
If you wanna sell the N4 i`ll buy it ! :laugh: