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Hi,
Full version as a note. Droid 1
Flashed clockworkmod recovery (2.5.0.1), went fine. Made a backup of stock rooted ROM, worked fine. Next flashed bugless beast .6, while clearing data & cache, no problem.
Now i want to flash to cm - trying out different ROMs - trying to reboot into recovery or flash another ROM both fail to get me to a bootloader. Instead i see the motorola boot logo for 30-45 seconds, followed by what looks like a regular boot (motorola M, then Droid eye, & booted.). I have also tried fixing permissions.
If anyone has any idea why this is happening or can direct me to a forum link it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if this is in the wrong section, and yea I've tried looking through the forums for a while.
Thanks

just a little baby sized pump...

This happened to me too after working perfectly for several months. All of the sudden I just couldn't get to clockwork. I am running CM7 Nightlies. After not being able to fix the issue for several days I decided that a full wipe via the .sbf method was in order. I've got everything up and running again but it was an annoying process. Can anyone out there help us to understand why this happened so we don't have to deal with this again?

Do you have a link for the method you described about? That would be really helpful!

An ever so slightly larger bump
I really am not trying to be lazy, but all the .sbf methods I've read so far seem require you getting to a boot loader. If I could get to a boot loader this wouldn't be a problem, as I made a back up of my stock ROM. I have a functioning bugless beast ROM, just no recovery / boot loader, and no way to flash back to my recovery.

And possibly solved..
One: Please pardon my ignorance, doing these things on my Eris was far easier, or at least what I got used to.
Two: Please also ignore the word boot loader in my previous posts, as it was the recovery console that I could not get to load. Sorry Again.
Three: Its magically working. My methods were unscientific to say the least, but the Droid is now in "ClockworkMod's Recovery v2.5.0.1".
Things I finally did:
NOTE - I DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF THIS TO BE THE PROPER ORDER OF THINGS. PLEASE VERIFY WITH SOMEONE FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN ME. THE FOLLOWING REFLECTS THE PROCESS I DID, AND SHOULD PROBABLY NOT BE FOLLOWED UNLESS A MOD ACTUALLY SAYS THIS WAS CORRECT
1. Pulled Battery, hold power button down for a few seconds, and then put back in
2. Hold Up on D-pad while holding the Power Button
3. You see the following
Code:
bootloader 2c.7c
battery ok
ok to program
connect usb
data cable
4. Connect USB data cable to PC running RSD Lite. You will also want a .sbf recovery file from a trusted source.
5. Select the .sbf in RSD Lite. Tell it to start. I used the clockwork recovery only .sbf
*** Where things got officially weird for me ***
6. The .sbf file I told it to load seemed to work, as the progress bar moved. The phone almost instantly rebooted, back to the ROM I was running minutes earlier. Clockwork had not been working previously trying to reboot into recovery, but almost instantly upon trying this time, I was in recovery mode.
NOTE - The USB cable was still plugged in as well. I don't know which combination of things actually got this to work, but it did.
Hope this helps someone else out.

Help Getting Back To Stock - Guides aren't working for me.

I need some help please. I seem to be in a pickle, though I’m not bricked. (At least, not yet.) So I rooted my phone last night, using [GUIDE][NOOB]Step-By-Step Instructions for New Stock Bionic Owners. Everything went great, and I got root. I followed the guide to get the .901 update, which went fine. Tried the ROM suggested, and liked it. Thought I would try Eclipse v2.1. I installed it, but I like Visual Voicemail, so I decided to use my Nandroid that I did right after root and revert back. Here is where problems started.
After the restore, it wouldn’t boot. Passed the Moto Dual Core logo and hung up. Allowed 10 minutes and after nothing, I flashed back to the backup I made after installing Eclipse. It booted fine. So I decided to go back to stock rom, debloat it how I like it and just run the debloated stock. Here is where problems started. I can’t find a flashable copy of the stock. Just a couple of guides on using RSD Lite. This is for Bricked Bionic’s, but I decided to try it, since one of the guides said it works to get back to OTA.
Downloaded the RSD Lite and the full system file to flash. I put my phone into the mode to flash (Power + Volume Down), unpacked the file with RSD Lite and tried to flash. Got an error.
Failed flashing process. Failed flashing process. 1/15 flash cdt.bin"cdt.bin"-> Phone returned FAIL.; phone connected.
Now, when I reboot my phone, it goes back to the Fasboot Flash Mode screen saing (Failed). I can boot into recover (Volume Up + Volume Down + Power) and do a Normal Boot, and it boots fine.
I tried a Factory Reset, and it just reset’s on Eclipse v2.1.
I want to simply get back to stock. Rooted or unrooted, I don’t care. I’ll reroot if I need to.
I also tried to download the STOCK Deodexed files. The links are dead. Figured if I went back to one of those stock images, I could unroot and see if everything was ok.
Suggestions?

Hmm..I think your mistake was in safeboot when you tried to go back to original back up you were suppose to toggle safe system so that it would be disabled. From there you would've been able to restore your original system and boot up just fine. It was mentioned in the guide through some posts.
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ms0chez said:
Hmm..I think your mistake was in safeboot when you tried to go back to original back up you were suppose to toggle safe system so that it would be disabled. From there you would've been able to restore your original system and boot up just fine. It was mentioned in the guide through some posts.
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So I need to turn Safe Mode off in SafeStrap and flash? I had thought about that, but I was worried about totally bricking the phone. I'm pulling SafeBoot now, and will try the flash.
EDIT...
SafeMode is off, and rebooted. I'm back to .875 Stock Rooted. So far, so good.
I can either flash from here (haven't tried yet) or stay here. When I boot, I'm still booting into Fastbook with (Flash Failure). Any way to get that off, other than flashing back to stock and locked through RSD Lite?

Your mistake was trying to restore from the un safe system. You can toggle safe system and you'll be ok. Or, reinstall a ROM to your safe system.

To clarify: don't flash a ROM with safe system disabled. toggle back to safe mode, and then pickup my directions from the format /system step. You can try another ROM no problem then.
I bet you can find the visual voicemail APK and add it whichever ROM. Copy paste into system/app directory.

Thanks. I'm used to flashing with the Thunderbolt and the XOOM. Not used to safestrap, just normal CWM.
Any idea how to stop the phone from booting into Fastboot? Having to do it the long way still. I'd be happy staying this way, if I can get that resolved.

Actually the problem was you tried to restore to a backup of a pre .901 system which has different radios which flashing doesn't like.
As for the flash failure, get the fxz files and put them in a folder with adb and fastboot. Then run this command in a prompt:
fastboot flash device_tree.bin
When you get a flash failure you just need to flash something to fix it; flashing device_tree.bin won't affect anything.

Its one solid file with a weird extension. Is there a way to unpack it? I am out right now and don't know the extension by heart.

Its a zip, just extract it
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Now, I'm scratching my head. (Again) I've worked with ADB with my Xoom, so I'm not a noob at that part. ADB doesn't see my phone. My computer does, and the phone know's it's plugged in. However when I try to flash the file, it can't find the device. I checked "adb devices" and it's not on the list.
So I decided to go ahead and flash completely back to stock with RSD Lite. Still get's the same error message. (I did check the MD5 SUM on the file. It's correct.) Safe Mode is off in Safestrap. Here is what the Fastboot screen looks like on my phone.
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S)
0A.61
Battery OK
OK to Program
Transfer Mode:
USB Connected
Since I've not seen the Fastboot screen on this phone until this started, I don't know if the (S) has meaning. Like, it thinks the phone's still in SafeMode?
I noticed one of the options in safestrap is to disable safestrap. Thought about trying that, but.... Unsure.

Phone suddenly acting up need some help

I rooted my droid 4 a few months ago when I first got it so I could tether. I removed a couple of programs using titanium backup (blockbuster app and some other bloat). Phone worked fine until monday when the touchscreen stopped working. I did a reboot (power + volume down) whereupon it just sat at the M "Dual Core" logo. I tried booting into the recovery menu but selecting "recovery" didn't do anything - it would just hang.
Last night I was able to get it working again by going into the recovery menu and selecting asp fastboot, then using RSDLite to push a stock Droid 4 ROM onto the phone. However, it didn't wipe my old system, and didnt install over it either because all my files were there, and the programs I removed were still gone. So the phone worked for a few hours then the touchscreen stopped working again.
I repeated the process with RSDLite and after a few failed attempts where the phone would hang while booting, I finally got it to boot into the OS again. And this is where I am at now.
I am pretty sure that the problem is related to the OS that is on the phone now and that I need to wipe the phone and start fresh with either a custom ROM or the stock D4 ROM. The problem is that I can't get recovery to do a factory reset. As I mentioned above, recovery just hangs and doesn't do anything. I am reasonably literate when it comes to this stuff but I get really confused because there are so many different ways that people seem to do this stuff (safestrap, bootstrap, CM( etc). I would love to try CM9 but my priority right now is just to have a phone that works. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

whoisthisis said:
I rooted my droid 4 a few months ago when I first got it so I could tether. I removed a couple of programs using titanium backup (blockbuster app and some other bloat). Phone worked fine until monday when the touchscreen stopped working. I did a reboot (power + volume down) whereupon it just sat at the M "Dual Core" logo. I tried booting into the recovery menu but selecting "recovery" didn't do anything - it would just hang.
Last night I was able to get it working again by going into the recovery menu and selecting asp fastboot, then using RSDLite to push a stock Droid 4 ROM onto the phone. However, it didn't wipe my old system, and didnt install over it either because all my files were there, and the programs I removed were still gone. So the phone worked for a few hours then the touchscreen stopped working again.
I repeated the process with RSDLite and after a few failed attempts where the phone would hang while booting, I finally got it to boot into the OS again. And this is where I am at now.
I am pretty sure that the problem is related to the OS that is on the phone now and that I need to wipe the phone and start fresh with either a custom ROM or the stock D4 ROM. The problem is that I can't get recovery to do a factory reset. As I mentioned above, recovery just hangs and doesn't do anything. I am reasonably literate when it comes to this stuff but I get really confused because there are so many different ways that people seem to do this stuff (safestrap, bootstrap, CM( etc). I would love to try CM9 but my priority right now is just to have a phone that works. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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select recovery by holding the vol buttons and power on boot just like fastboot. press vol - for recovery. when u see dead droid hit both vol up and vol down and theres the recovery

Thanks, I was finally able to get into recovery. Wiped data and did a factory reset which again got stuck at the logo screen. Went back into fastboot and ran RSDlite again to flash the stock ROM which gets me to the "Welcome to Droid4" screen where it says "touch the android to start" but the touchscreen is unresponsive. Starting to think there is something physically wrong with the phone....

send it to motorola, I've heard their customer support is pretty good. but if you voided your warranty by rooting/flashing other roms, I've heard bricking the phone and sending it in works to get a new one too

The only way I can send it back is through an insurance claim so I am trying to save myself $75j if this thing will just work. I just did a reboot and now the touchscreen seems to be working so I am going through the setup process....so weird.
Update: I was able to get the phone to load up and configured my google account etc. It appears that the phone is now running on completely stock installation of OS.....

whoisthisis said:
The only way I can send it back is through an insurance claim so I am trying to save myself $75j if this thing will just work. I just did a reboot and now the touchscreen seems to be working so I am going through the setup process....so weird.
Update: I was able to get the phone to load up and configured my google account etc. It appears that the phone is now running on completely stock installation of OS.....
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So it has been a couple days now and the phone works totally fine. It looks like the problem was that by removing whatever bloatware that I did, the phone's OS got borked when VZW pushed an update of some kind. Flashing the stock ROM without doing a factory wipe would temporarily solve the problem but eventually the update would get pushed again and the whole thing would lock up again. The factory wipe + reinstall seems to have been the solution to the problem.

Lg bricked?Noob mistake..

Well, i wanted to change my rom, CM 7.2, with DjangoManouche 1.2 and used the rom below..i backed up, and when i started flashing, it said that"this is not a ROM"..i..kind of panicked and after a minute, when i seen "nothing moves" i removed the battery. When i tried to start the phone, it only shows the LG logo..but does not boot(i waited for just 1-2 minutes..). I hope someone could help me.
xdafileserver.nl/Files/LG/Optimus%202x%20(P990)/ROMS/DjangoManouche%20ROM/1.2/1.2ROMS/DjangoManouche1.2WipeEXT3Stock.zip

Mitzu' said:
Well, i wanted to change my rom, CM 7.2, with DjangoManouche 1.2 and used the rom below..i backed up, and when i started flashing, it said that"this is not a ROM"..i..kind of panicked and after a minute, when i seen "nothing moves" i removed the battery. When i tried to start the phone, it only shows the LG logo..but does not boot(i waited for just 1-2 minutes..). I hope someone could help me.
xdafileserver.nl/Files/LG/Optimus%202x%20(P990)/ROMS/DjangoManouche%20ROM/1.2/1.2ROMS/DjangoManouche1.2WipeEXT3Stock.zip
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I recall reading something about using NVFlash to force the stock rom on and allowing to recover from a bricking.
I'll defer to someone with experience in fixing bricked phones though.

Thank you...now..it wont even start, even when i plug-in the charger..it had pretty low battery..i am pretty ducked..

You have to reflash it with KDZ recovery method. Look up google and you'll get it working. I did this the first time too (what a bad joke to say "this is not a ROM")...

I'm sure you can still enter Cwm if you hold down volume- while pressing power button until it the Cwm menu appears.
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First of all, don't worry, O2X is pretty unbrickable...at least in the level you're messing with it!
If you have recovery installed, you should be able to reboot into recovery : press and hold vol down button, then power button until you see blue halo of LG. before that, download another ROM and put it in your external SDcard. Flash that ROM.
You can also download and flash the original firmware of LG by using smartflash. You can find those in ANDROID DEVELOPMENT section!
Also check KDZ recovery!!

Thank you..it worked with recovery mode..i had back-ups. I got a bit scared because when i pressed vol_dwn+ shut down button..after i release the 2nd button, it turned off...but i menaged to make it. Again, thank you for help.
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well, today i tried again to install a new rom(temasek's cm7 last build)..but i couldn't..after it is installed it get's into boot and stays like that..i tried to AOKP and it worked..my backup also worked...i just can't get it, why these roms won't work?

Mitzu' said:
well, today i tried again to install a new rom(temasek's cm7 last build)..but i couldn't..after it is installed it get's into boot and stays like that..i tried to AOKP and it worked..my backup also worked...i just can't get it, why these roms won't work?
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The common mistake for new people is that they restore entire nandroid backup after flashing ROM. CWM doesn't have option to backup DATA only, so you have to restore DATA from nandroid backup using Titanium Backup etc.
Try this:
1. Restore into fully functioning ROM(+data) if you don't have already
2. Reboot to recovery
3. Format /system
4. Flash new ROM
5. Clear cache and dalvik cache
6. Check if phone successfully boots
7. Flash Gapps if needed.
8. DO NOT DO ANY RESTORES AFTER STEP 1!!
9. If it doesn't work out, try another ROM. There may be some error with the file!!

Solved - Locked Boot Screen, Unable To Access Custom Recovery Image.

Very noobish issue. Rooted, unlocked bootloader on Atrix HD. Set up SafeStrap as recovery. Everything checked and working. After letting SafeStrap install Cyan 10.3 and rebooting, phone entered CyanogenMod boot screen and become stuck for an hour. Realized that I forgot to reset and wipe all stock settings and cache (yes, I know that should have been obvious step). Figured I could just go into SafeStrap and make the quick fix.
Seems that I'm unable to enter my custom recovery, instead I'm lead to the familiar bricked android stock recovery. No options to access stock rom (assuming it was deleted during install or lost, etc). Tried installing a different recovery, but fastboot on PC is unable to find device. Help at this point is very much appreciated, either to do any of the following:
1. Somehow access SafeStrap again (assuming that it wasn't wiped aswell) so I can clear stock settings and cache, get Cyan 10.3 going properly.
2. Instructions/links to another method to otherwise forcibly delete stock settings and cache (please keep in mind, fastboot is currently unable to find device).
3. Otherwise completely clear phone of EVERYTHING, then reinstal stock recovery and or/stock ROM so I can give up on flashing custom and stick with stock.

*Update:
Was finally able to get phone into AP Fastboot Flahsh Mode. My computer itself can't see the phone, but device manager shows it as "Fastboot QINARA S" and I'm able get a response through my PC's end of flashboot.
Tried using RSD lite to install a stock ROM, but no success since the phone isn't off and can't be turned off without trying to go into another Boot Loop. Also tried installing a new recovery through fastboot, but I keep getting the response, "(Bootloader) variable not supported."
At this point, I'd be really happy if I could get the proper commands to wipe and factory reset my phone while in fastboot. At least then I'd have Cyan. I could try installing stock if it continued to glitch.

Update Motorola drivers on your computer and check threads for fastboot files from skeevydude.
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Well safestrap is for use with locked bootloaders so there lies your problem. Maybe you can make a factory cable or buy one to put your phone into fastboot so you can flash stock through rsd.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226527
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SkunkID said:
*Update:
Was finally able to get phone into AP Fastboot Flahsh Mode. My computer itself can't see the phone, but device manager shows it as "Fastboot QINARA S" and I'm able get a response through my PC's end of flashboot.
Tried using RSD lite to install a stock ROM, but no success since the phone isn't off and can't be turned off without trying to go into another Boot Loop. Also tried installing a new recovery through fastboot, but I keep getting the response, "(Bootloader) variable not supported."
At this point, I'd be really happy if I could get the proper commands to wipe and factory reset my phone while in fastboot. At least then I'd have Cyan. I could try installing stock if it continued to glitch.
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The error is from using the wrong fastboot executable. Look at post 5. If you get a stickybit error, search our general forums for "stickybit" and you'll find that fix.
deeje00 said:
Well safestrap is for use with locked bootloaders so there lies your problem. Maybe you can make a factory cable or buy one to put your phone into fastboot so you can flash stock through rsd.
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With a bit of creativitity one could use SSR to dual boot Holo Blur and Batakang....or two custom 4.3's that use the same kernel....PAC + Carbon both with arrrghhh's kernel.....Only problem is ya can't be a noob at all if ya do it.

Solved issue...somehow.
Used method shown in link below to install stock recovery image since Safety Strap was apparently deleted/wiped/banished?
(can't link, still noob poster. Just search, "[Guide] How to flash back to Stock Rom - chacha. Please Sticky This !", should be the first result.)
After installing stock recovery, was able to go to the standard dead android screen, but after punching the volume buttons randomly, the option menu for stock recovery opened. Was able to factory reset and wipe cache, then properly reboot. Cyanogenmod finally got out of it's BootLoop, and everything seems to be running fine. Flashed a non-official CWM (no offical CWM or Twrp avaliable for Atric HD) and got Gapps. Phone is finally running fine.
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Lingering issues worth mentioning incase there are obvious fixes.
.Cyan likes to crash whenever running programs for the first time or doing do much activity in a short amount of time (I suspect the cache has something to do with the cleared cache since revisiting apps doesn't cause crashes as often). If it persists, I'll probably just back up and look for a more stable rom.
.All notification lights are white, except the battery notification lights, despite me changing the colors and/or allowing apps to use their own light settings.

When you're at the "dead Android" screen pressing Vol Down + Power pushes it into recovery, iirc - might seem random but there's a purpose behind it.

SkunkID said:
Solved issue...somehow.
Used method shown in link below to install stock recovery image since Safety Strap was apparently deleted/wiped/banished?
(can't link, still noob poster. Just search, "[Guide] How to flash back to Stock Rom - chacha. Please Sticky This !", should be the first result.)
After installing stock recovery, was able to go to the standard dead android screen, but after punching the volume buttons randomly, the option menu for stock recovery opened. Was able to factory reset and wipe cache, then properly reboot. Cyanogenmod finally got out of it's BootLoop, and everything seems to be running fine. Flashed a non-official CWM (no offical CWM or Twrp avaliable for Atric HD) and got Gapps. Phone is finally running fine.
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Lingering issues worth mentioning incase there are obvious fixes.
.Cyan likes to crash whenever running programs for the first time or doing do much activity in a short amount of time (I suspect the cache has something to do with the cleared cache since revisiting apps doesn't cause crashes as often). If it persists, I'll probably just back up and look for a more stable rom.
.All notification lights are white, except the battery notification lights, despite me changing the colors and/or allowing apps to use their own light settings.
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Hi, I am having the same issue you had... how the heck were you able to get back into stock recovery? Every time I try my phone just reboots and gets stuck again. I cant even turn off my phone with out it rebooting. I have read your posts and followed that other forum you mentioned but if I cannot boot into recovery and if my computer cant see my phone it wont work. Please help when you get a chance.