Screen burn in + washed out - Nexus 7 General

Update on my case:
I got my replacement unit yesterday and the screen is great. However now I have a slightly bent border and the infamous clicking sound issue on the left side...
I contacted GameStop again and requested a replacement when their 2nd wave comes, which is early next week so I'll see if I can be lucky this time. GameStop cs has been great so far.
Also Asus saw this post and contacted me for details. It seems they are aware and are doing researches on these defects.
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Anyone having their nexus 7 with screen burn in and washed out colors with super obvious backlight bleeding?
I got mine yesterday and everything was great but this issue all of a sudden appeared when i turned it on after i woke up today.
Gamestop will try to do a special replacement order for me.
Edit: added some shots to show how uneven the backlight is and also the burn in issues. There was no flash used to take the shots.
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Yes!! I was just googling like crazy to find people that have the same issues. Its like one of those old screens where the backllight is illuminating the side of the screen. It is very strange and unpleasant.

Add some photos in op
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jjjsong said:
Add some photos in op
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not only is it burnt in and pale, but its also upside down

lol my bad.
But it demonstrates the issues regardless.
the photos don't really show how washed out it looks. It's like having a semi transparent layer on top of the screen.
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It will be interesting to see if those who ordered from the Play Store have the same issues. Maybe they were in different batches

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lol my bad.
But it demonstrates the issues regardless.
the photos don't really show how washed out it looks. It's like having a semi transparent layer on top of the screen.
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Yes its really hard to capture with a camera but its definitely there. I found kicking up the brightness helps. The issue i was referring to might be intended so its easier to read in the dark.

Go look at threads from the G2x forum about screen bleed. Ridiculous amount of bickering over the same thing. If you don't like the product you got, exchange or return it. Not trying to stick it to the OP or anything, thanks for photos, just trying to kill this at the source before the N7 gets tainted with bad publicity because people didn't want to exchange. G2x's resale value plummeted because of issues like this being blown out of proportion, so it's in your best interest to bring the issue to light, let everyone know of any possible issues, then leave it up here for consideration if others have the same issue. Not make a 300 page thread about it comparing the extent of which you have the issues. It ended up as people taking countless photos and comparing them like a contest or something. I'm very sorry for anyone with this issue and i do hope you get it sorted out. For all I know mine will have the same issues.
Not trying to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to prevent the mass hysteria caused by this on the G2x.

From the arstechnica review:
A few days after the Nexus 7 hit developers' hands, a number of outlets reported that the tablet has problems with ghosting. Bringing up an image and letting it set on the screen for a couple of minutes would leave an impression of the image on the screen for up to a few minutes after the user has navigated away. We were able to recreate the problem, and found high-contrast images were particularly susceptible to imprinting ghosts on the screen.
However, the more we tried to recreate it, the faster the effect seemed to fade after we navigated away from the ghosted image. Eventually it was fading in a matter of seconds. The problem seems to be related to whether the screen is warmed up or not—if the tablet hasn't been recently used, an idle image will remain ghosted on the display for at least a couple of minutes, even as users continually change what the screen is showing. But once it's been on for a while—even if the image is left up for up to ten minutes—the ghost fades in a couple of seconds. There definitely is a problem, but it doesn't strike us as serious. That's as long as it doesn't, for instance, get worse as the tablet gets older.
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What's your brightness set on. Too high will make it worse sometimes. Will also kill battery and overall screen life ( just like TVs) I say this because you also mentioned "washed out" look. This tends to happen when brightness is too high. (People do this on TVs too). High brightness is to help outdoor viewing, will actually make picture worse but people think it "pops" more. IF, this is the case try turning it down some You'll get use to it after a while. Mine at like 20% and I rarely have problems seeing screen. I do home theaters so take the advice knowing I'm not just spouting BS.
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The one I picked up from Gamestop today hasn't exhibited this at all and thankfully no dead pixels either, I'd be pretty pissed honestly if it looked like that

dorkdotcom74 said:
What's your brightness set on. Too high will make it worse sometimes. Will also kill battery and overall screen life ( just like TVs) I say this because you also mentioned "washed out" look. This tends to happen when brightness is too high. (People do this on TVs too). High brightness is to help outdoor viewing, will actually make picture worse but people think it "pops" more. IF, this is the case try turning it down some You'll get use to it after a while. Mine at like 20% and I rarely have problems seeing screen. I do home theaters so take the advice knowing I'm not just spouting BS.
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I already played around with brightness, it's all like that from the lowest to the highest brightness settings. It's super washed out with lights all bleeding from the sides and also areas in the middle. It's like the LCD panel can't block the lights out anymore.
Note that it was perfectly normal the day i got it. It only started happening today. So I know how it should look like...

Take it back. I have no light bleed at all. I think you got a lemon I would not accept light bleed in 4 corners, the center, burn in and washed out colors. I have none of your issues so take my advice and exchange it or if they have no more inventory return it and pick one up from another store
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Theres always a lemon for a device. Sorry that you got a poop one. Your replacement should be flawless?

r4d14n7 said:
Go look at threads from the G2x forum about screen bleed. Ridiculous amount of bickering over the same thing. If you don't like the product you got, exchange or return it. Not trying to stick it to the OP or anything, thanks for photos, just trying to kill this at the source before the N7 gets tainted with bad publicity because people didn't want to exchange. G2x's resale value plummeted because of issues like this being blown out of proportion, so it's in your best interest to bring the issue to light, let everyone know of any possible issues, then leave it up here for consideration if others have the same issue. Not make a 300 page thread about it comparing the extent of which you have the issues. It ended up as people taking countless photos and comparing them like a contest or something. I'm very sorry for anyone with this issue and i do hope you get it sorted out. For all I know mine will have the same issues.
Not trying to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to prevent the mass hysteria caused by this on the G2x.
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Wow, you must work for Google or something.
So what if a user gets angry at a corporation that doesn't give a [email protected]#% amount of care of a little something called quality control. It's the 21st century and there are means by which end-users should be alerted of what they may eventually buy. The Galaxy Nexus screen issues were never mentioned anywhere but here, on xda. Even Samsung denied the issue and dubbed them as being "non-existent", so they thought they'd just swap out used phones, and now you have pissed off users who made 3-4-5 swaps already and their issues are still there.
Remember the iphone 4 reception issues and apple's reaction to them? And don't even let me even mention the ridiculous amount of epic memes that derived from it.
My point is that to prevent these things from happening, end users should get mad and spread the issues as wide as one can, so that eventually it reaches the upper levels of the company, so they can start doing something about it.
A positive example is Sony with their flagship Xperia S and it's screen issues. They admitted their fault and triggered an utter logistical nightmare to exchange or replace any faulty screen, although even they tried to "limit" it to one faulty batch.
So yes, blow these tiles of things out of proportion, because this is not a minor issue!
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r4d14n7 said:
Go look at threads from the G2x forum about screen bleed. Ridiculous amount of bickering over the same thing. If you don't like the product you got, exchange or return it. Not trying to stick it to the OP or anything, thanks for photos, just trying to kill this at the source before the N7 gets tainted with bad publicity because people didn't want to exchange. G2x's resale value plummeted because of issues like this being blown out of proportion, so it's in your best interest to bring the issue to light, let everyone know of any possible issues, then leave it up here for consideration if others have the same issue. Not make a 300 page thread about it comparing the extent of which you have the issues. It ended up as people taking countless photos and comparing them like a contest or something. I'm very sorry for anyone with this issue and i do hope you get it sorted out. For all I know mine will have the same issues.
Not trying to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to prevent the mass hysteria caused by this on the G2x.
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lol.
if there is a common problem, everyone should know about this. samsung is still manufacturing ****ty hardware albeit this 300 page threads. look at the sgs3 section and see faulty screen posts. they are treating end users like beta testers.

I was using mine all day yesterday and didn't notice that the screen was a little washed out till today, seems to have went away tho (or less noticeable now). I also have minor screen bleeds but from what I've read this is common with IPS displays.

Yeah, right, I work for Google... Good detective work there.
Obviously you didn't read or understand my post.
What I'm saying is just because there are some defective units out there, doesn't mean you need to start writing hate mail to Google, Asus, and Obama. Every product has defective units, even with QA checks. I'm just hoping the N7 users will get warranty replacements instead of just whining and complaining for 6 months when they could have just called a freaking phone number and taken care of it.
And if the company is willing to replace the product, why would you blow it out of proportion? Companies can easily find excuses not to replace your product. THAT is when you need to blow issues out of proportion.

murrun said:
lol.
if there is a common problem, everyone should know about this. samsung is still manufacturing ****ty hardware albeit this 300 page threads. look at the sgs3 section and see faulty screen posts. they are treating end users like beta testers.
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Every device has defective screens it seems like. Honestly, it might just be cheaper for them to piss off the 2% of users who actually read stuff here than change the manufacturing process. It sucks. It really does. It forces us who are actually bothered by it to exchange til we get a good one. Which can take a few tries sometimes. It's a bummer but that's what our profit-driven society has come to.

Mostly first batches have problems, not all off them are working properly. I don't see why everyone complaining, just get it exchanged, it is £200 or $200 tablet, they aren't gonna put a super expensive display on. The IPS is already good enough for its price, heck the Kindle Fire display is terrible compared to this and I hardly see they complain.
IPS Screen burn are only temporarily compared to Amoled, use 'Dead Pixel Test' in the market to get rid of it. The app flashes different colour screens and it'll eventually go away faster. Trust me, I've had this problem before but never complained. *cough*

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Serious Trouble With Build Quality : HTC Future Customers, buy with cautious...

Ok, here we are.
I bought the HTC Diamond one week ago.
The first unit i had, had some issues with the screen : the right corner of the screen was a bit high compared with the left corner.
Here is a a picture of the problem :
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Since this is not the only problem i was having with it, the lcd screen also appeared to have some problems, text wasn't very clear/cut at all and was in fact pretty blurry.
The problem could be temporary solved by turning off the screen, and turning it on again.
NOT OK
OK
NOT OK
http://www.hostingpics.net/pics/793204texte_net.jpg OK
Finally, i came back to the shop where i bought it, get another unit and.... i'm currently experiencing the same problems.
1/ Inaccurate position of the screen with the button and the whole unit
2/ Blurry screen
I contacted the French Customer Service one week ago, didn't had an answer from them. They don't seem to give a damn ****
SO, for those who are currently thinking of buying an HTC Diamond, be aware of these problems.
If you can wait, then do it. It may be the smarter choice to do, in waiting of HTC to solve these youthful mistakes.
Im on my third, the first wouldnt power up, the second one wifi wouldn't turn on, and the third still has issues with the actual construction just like yours, but not nearly as bad. All three however, had slight imperfections in the build. Finally, none of them have been accepted as an HTC product when registering.
If I were deciding on buying a new phone, it would still be the diamond, but never will I buy another phone until it is officially released in the UK. These grey markets are probably the first batches that still go through redesign and testing thus have the imperfections. The phone having issues isnt a retailer issue, but a manufacturing issue. Such a nice piece of tech (I have bought EVERY mid to luxury phone since the Nokia 8800, and yes I have an issue with spending $$$), but I always but them the day they drop. The same old story, pulling my hair until the official is released, and then all the fixes and mods come out for my grey market phone to work 90% properly. FED UP, really. This is the last one I buy when they come out, my main concern is I am in the US, and some phones make it to the US market and then my phone is no longer unique.
Conclusion, in my vast experience of mobile tech, never have I been this irritated with a poor release. Like I said, such an impressive phone..........in theory.
If HTC ever wants to contact me to make up for this debauchery and release this sense of being bamboozled, PM me, I'll have my people call your people.
I bought two Diamonds. Found these issues:
1. one of the LCD Screen is more yellow when compared with the others
2. power on/off button is not senstive on the right side (too low, and no click feel; its right side is ok.)
3. mic becomes mute during calls (happended twice), I had to soft reset it.
4. screen doesn't turn on sometimes (the button light is on, just not the screen). Press the power button on and off to turn on the screen.
Called HTC tech support, they told me to get a replacement from vendor. And the Vendor told me to wait for the 2nd batch to arrive in 1-2 weeks.
Overall, Diamond has very good design and form factor, but poor quality control.
I'm lucky...
No any issues about build quality.. Especially screen is the magnificent..
no issues with mine
mines from the 2nd batch my wholesaler told me that the 1st batch of every phone are not perfect
hopefully the product come with a two year warranty...
I had a build quality issue that a bit diferent than the dispaly. But it adds to the general poor build quality of the Diamond
Here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405088&highlight=reset+button
C'mon zmob123, quit whinging! If you go to the grey market you get grey (dodgy) products. If you live in the UK, WAIT until it is released in the UK officially! If you live in the US wait until it is released there! If you are desperate go for the grey market - sometimes you are in the luck, sometimes you are in the s**t. Now, if any of you are so desperate that you spend around £430 for the very first version of ANY mobile phone, you should go and see a shrink because you are in serious trouble. I am still waiting for my MDA Compact IV and even though I really, really what it ASAP I will stay put and wait. No risky grey market for me. That way I'll not have to be disapointed.
aiwama
ive always owned a grey market import, never had any issues.
maybe as i wait 2-3 weeks so all the people who want to have the 1st from the factory can have it with issues.
and i get the 2nd batch.
when the n95 came out there was similar issues, it was mostly for the 1st batch of phones, all others had no issues.
my advice, is you want a grey market phone get one. BUT wait 1-3 weeks before you buy for the dust to settle on build quality issues, or contact the supplier to see if they are selling the 2nd batch....
aiwama said:
C'mon zmob123, quit whinging! If you go to the grey market you get grey (dodgy) products. If you live in the UK, WAIT until it is released in the UK officially! If you live in the US wait until it is released there! If you are desperate go for the grey market - sometimes you are in the luck, sometimes you are in the s**t. Now, if any of you are so desperate that you spend around £430 for the very first version of ANY mobile phone, you should go and see a shrink because you are in serious trouble. I am still waiting for my MDA Compact IV and even though I really, really what it ASAP I will stay put and wait. No risky grey market for me. That way I'll not have to be disapointed.
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I hear you man, I live in the US, but not whining. I like to get it when it comes out, just like everyone else on here I love tech a gadgets, but I have to agree with you, just avoid the risk and leave the worries behind. Only problem is I get this "itch" as soon as its released. Besides, the guy who started the thread started the *****ing, just thought I'd throw in my two pennies. Please, don't get me wrong, the phone is fantastic, just needs some finishing touches. To be honest, never had major issues until the diamond, but I think to root of the evil is the TouchFlo3D. The cosmetics is just a bad job on HTC's part. Oh, and the shrink, I'll phone in the morning,
zmob123 said:
I hear you man, I live in the US, but not whining. I like to get it when it comes out, just like everyone else on here I love tech a gadgets, but I have to agree with you, just avoid the risk and leave the worries behind. Only problem is I get this "itch" as soon as its released. Besides, the guy who started the thread started the *****ing, just thought I'd throw in my two pennies. Please, don't get me wrong, the phone is fantastic, just needs some finishing touches. To be honest, never had major issues until the diamond, but I think to root of the evil is the TouchFlo3D. The cosmetics is just a bad job on HTC's part. Oh, and the shrink, I'll phone in the morning,
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I'm not "*****ing", boy, therefore please watch your word.
I am writing here the problems i am encountering with this phone (not a black market one, an official one i get to a high price in a big brand french shop) since it is the second unit i'm getting and still having the same problems.
These problems are not software related, they can't be resolved with an update, a program, or with gold help.
Since we have no way to know if HTC is aware of these problems and going to solve them, and since i don't think i'm wrong by saying that some of their staff is walking on this forum (do you remember HTC Kaiser drivers issue?), i don't think it was a such bad idea to post this.
Everything is not black with this phone, but at this level of price you are expecting something better than these speakers, screens, and builds problems.
So, if other peoples are having the same problems, don't hesitate to give your feedback.
All in all..
Ladies and Gentleman, i'm afraid i have to leave you for some hours.....

Why I want my Nexus money back!

Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
[*]should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
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i lolz. sending it back because you can't google. priceless.
sorry about your troubles, i guess you got the antitheses of my N7, because it's mint.
mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
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Then contact Google for a refund. I don't have any problems with my Nexus.
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mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
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You got a bad unit. Happens to iPads too. For what it's worth a good unit works fantastic.
As for the bottom half of your list.... you are really complaining about no memory slot and rear camera? And that there isn't really 8GB of space? EVERY device does that. There is a music store, it's called Google Music, but feel free to use Amazon MP3 as well. You seem to have let yourself down.....
Mine is perfect and everything I thought it would be, sorry for your problems.
It sounds to me like you wanted an iPad and tried to buy the nexus to save some money.
Go ahead and get an iPad, Android is more for people who like to tinker and modify and have choices. Apple works out really well for people who want a system laid out for them that's real simple and dummy and non techie friendly. I buy them for my parents for that reason. I also have an iPad and an iPhone 4S so when I tell you that you and Android arent a match I'm not meaning any harm.
Make sure you get the 3G model iPad because they are much more picky about WiFi tether than Android.
However keep in mind that many of the negatives you don't like about Android are identical with the iPad.
And android has the play store which is a music store so I'm confused on that one and some of the other complaints, I think a lot of it was just not taking the time to learn your way around.
I'm very happy with my nexus its exceeded my expectations by far. Its in perfect condition physically and Im running an amazing custom ROM and kernel.
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Wow. Just wow. ...First post. No way this is real. :laugh:
Sounds like a troll to me, listing things it doesn't have that are clearly stated in all reviews and spec sheets - yet you label it all as negatives & utter surprise.
Also, where is the proof of your problems?
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U mad brah?
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U mad brah?
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That never gets old. :laugh:
I don't even own Nexus 7 yet, and I am still debating whether or not to get one, but this is obviously trolling. Same power as the Kindle Fire that doesn't even have Bluetooth? On what planet? Lol
Love those who join a forum just to post how they dislike something, and then never to be seen again.
Mine goes everywhere with me. I don't take pictures with a 1.2MP camera (what is this, 1998?)
Almost the entire list of "missing features" were never even speculated to be in this tablet. You fail at being a smart consumer. I chuckled. Was a joke, right?
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trolling...
please close thread
Trigger the trolls and go spend 500+ on a "new" iPad. My unit is a bad ass peace of tech, I'm not going to answer every problem you stated because you don't seek out solutions to these "problems".
Once I get my new phone (current one wont recognize USB connection) I'm tethering like a mofo.
Sounds like a one post iTroll.
Just buy an iPad and go away from this forum.
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I mean, you could always just google Nexus 7.
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Still don't think the Nexus 7 has color correction/grey scale problems. Wtahc this

Still don't think the Nexus 7 has color correction/grey scale problems. Its been well documented on these very forums, but just by luck I stumbled upon this video, fast forward to 8;34 and look at the video, I don't know what can be done if anything.
youtube.com/watch?v=MD8n7xaPBMo just add these together to get to the video
Or if this is even a tablet wide problem or is just affecting a small number of tablets. I compare the colors to my buddies iPad 3 and while I would never expect them to be as bright or vibrant, they are just not correct and slightly too cool or on the blue side.
Just watching this video I would determine the Nexus 7 has a inferior display, thankfully thats not the case. But something is not right.
If you're talking about the white balance/washout problem, try the steps in this post (root required)
I've had a major overall improvement after disabling the feature in that post. Everyone should at least give it a try, as it can be easily re-enabled if you don't get the same results.
Its problem with the Galaxy Nexus too. Its just software used to make things faster.
CM10 has an option to up the dithering. It looks great when enabled. I didn't see that option on any N7 roms yet. Just a matter of time.
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If you're talking about the white balance/washout problem, try the steps in this post (root required)
I've had a major overall improvement after disabling the feature in that post. Everyone should at least give it a try, as it can be easily re-enabled if you don't get the same results.
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What did you use to provoke the commands? I tried looking up terminal in google play didn't find anything and yes I am rooted on stock rom.
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What did you use to provoke the commands? I tried looking up terminal in google play didn't find anything and yes I am rooted on stock rom.
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Its a $199.99 device, maybe, just maybe this isn't going to have everyone ISF calibrated at the factory....
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What did you use to provoke the commands? I tried looking up terminal in google play didn't find anything and yes I am rooted on stock rom.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that you'll need to use Android Terminal Emulator, and also type su before entering the command given at the link.
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Its a $199.99 device, maybe, just maybe this isn't going to have everyone ISF calibrated at the factory....
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Well since we're being condescending, if you're so happy with your excellent value for money tablet, maybe, just maybe, you should go and watch Transformers on infinite repeat instead of spending your time mashing the reply button to post defensive nonsense in threads that have nothing to do with you.
Hmm, brand new registered user coming to the Nexus7 forums and trying to get everyone to watch a video comparing it to the iPad3.
Is this how low Apple viral marketing has stooped?
My Nexus7 colours look just fine thanks, I don't need or want someone trying to convince me otherwise with some doctored viral video or some "expert" telling me so.
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Hmm, brand new registered user coming to the Nexus7 forums and trying to get everyone to watch a video comparing it to the iPad3.
Is this how low Apple viral marketing has stooped?
My Nexus7 colours look just fine thanks, I don't need or want someone trying to convince me otherwise with some doctored viral video or some "expert" telling me so.
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I hear you man. He's probably steve jobs coming back from the grave to post this message here. I bet CIA and FBI have a hand in this.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that you'll need to use Android Terminal Emulator, and also type su before entering the command given at the link.
Well since we're being condescending, if you're so happy with your excellent value for money tablet, maybe, just maybe, you should go and watch Transformers on infinite repeat instead of spending your time mashing the reply button to post defensive nonsense in threads that have nothing to do with you.
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Whatever man, but some of you dudes looking a test patterns all day whinging that your device that you bought for a price less than some mp3 players doesn't have perfect colour reproduction gets very tiresome very quick.
Let me tell you how it is. The screen will not be the best on the market, in fact at the price you'd expect it to be one of the worst, but it isn't. Its not perfect, but for the price its pretty good and the headslappers that expect it to reproduce every colour perfectly along with perfect blacks, quite frankly need to get a grip.
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I hear you man. He's probably steve jobs coming back from the grave to post this message here. I bet CIA and FBI have a hand in this.
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Hmm, brand new registered user coming to the Nexus7 forums and trying to get everyone to watch a video comparing it to the iPad3.
Is this how low Apple viral marketing has stooped?
My Nexus7 colours look just fine thanks, I don't need or want someone trying to convince me otherwise with some doctored viral video or some "expert" telling me so.
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Did you watch the video?
Its a nexus 7 vs a kindle fire.. not an iPad..?
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Still don't think the Nexus 7 has color correction/grey scale problems. Its been well documented on these very forums, but just by luck I stumbled upon this video, fast forward to 8;34 and look at the video, I don't know what can be done if anything.
youtube.com/watch?v=MD8n7xaPBMo
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Are you talking about the bit where the video's narrator says "Then again you get those nicer, slightly nicer-looking colors with the Google Nexus 7"?
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So what's your point?
Some people have a problem with their screens, these aren't all the same problem and there are several factors playing a role. While these people have come on to the forum to moan, these are still isolated problems and in general the Nexus 7 has a very good display. I've tested mine and it surpasses anything I'd expect from a mobile device. The iPad3 is better in general (mostly because of its larger colour gamut and higher res), but there are still plenty of people with iPads who're moaning that they got a lemon.
If you got a bad one then that sucks, send it back and get a replacement. But in general the Nexus 7's display is extremely good.
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Are you talking about the bit where the video's narrator says "Then again you get those nicer, slightly nicer-looking colors with the Google Nexus 7"?
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So what's your point?
Some people have a problem with their screens, these aren't all the same problem and there are several factors playing a role. While these people have come on to the forum to moan, these are still isolated problems and in general the Nexus 7 has a very good display. I've tested mine and it surpasses anything I'd expect from a mobile device. The iPad3 is better in general (mostly because of its larger colour gamut and higher res), but there are still plenty of people with iPads who're moaning that they got a lemon.
If you got a bad one then that sucks, send it back and get a replacement. But in general the Nexus 7's display is extremely good.
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Indeed..
My screen is great - nice and bright, good colour - and almost back light bleed free...
So I can't complain
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Hmm, brand new registered user coming to the Nexus7 forums and trying to get everyone to watch a video comparing it to the iPad3.
Is this how low Apple viral marketing has stooped?
My Nexus7 colours look just fine thanks, I don't need or want someone trying to convince me otherwise with some doctored viral video or some "expert" telling me so.
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If you watch the video its actually a direct comaprison vs the Kindle fire, I posted it because its alarming that the Nexus 7 looks worse fast forward to 8:34.
After looking at a Razr Maxx most of the day, the screen looks fantastic. After looking at my GNex when I use it on the weekends, the screen on the Nexus looks fantastic. It is a 200 dollar device, however when compared to other 200 dollar devices, it is leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. I have no problems whatsoever. The screen is bright, text is crisp, and videos look fantastic. What more do you want? Complaining because the screen isn't a retina display, or because it doesn't look as good as the new iPad is ridiculous. People pay a premium for that screen so it is obviously going to be better. You knew exactly what you were getting when you bought it (not as far as defects, as in screen resolution). This argument is along the same lines as the lack of expandable storage argument. If the storage and resolution wasn't good enough for you, why buy it?
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After looking at a Razr Maxx most of the day, the screen looks fantastic. After looking at my GNex when I use it on the weekends, the screen on the Nexus looks fantastic. It is a 200 dollar device, however when compared to other 200 dollar devices, it is leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. I have no problems whatsoever. The screen is bright, text is crisp, and videos look fantastic. What more do you want? Complaining because the screen isn't a retina display, or because it doesn't look as good as the new iPad is ridiculous. People pay a premium for that screen so it is obviously going to be better. You knew exactly what you were getting when you bought it (not as far as defects, as in screen resolution). This argument is along the same lines as the lack of expandable storage argument. If the storage and resolution wasn't good enough for you, why buy it?
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Not that I disagree with you by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't doubt that *some* reports of screen issues are actually true, whereas the vast majority of them are absolutely fine. I have yet to come across a Nexus 7 with a screen as some users have described... everything I've personally seen has been great. I personally have 2 and about 6-8 friends/co-workers have a Nexus 7 as well, all with identical results.
So there again, I agree with you, but I would actually go as far as to say the screen on the Nexus 7 is by no means a budget screen but it's actually REALLY nice, but I wouldn't discount what some users are saying - maybe a few lemons exist? After all, the only people complaining would be the ones having the issue - for the hundreds of thousands of other users who are loving their screens, they won't be investing time to register on forums just to give it a :good:, unlike other users like myself who just happen to be here and posting out of my own interest.
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If you watch the video its actually a direct comaprison vs the Kindle fire, I posted it because its alarming that the Nexus 7 looks worse fast forward to 8:34.
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It looks worse even though the reviewer says its looks better?
There's really no helping you people is there?
No i can deifnitly confirm serious color issue with the N7
download display tester and go to the dead pixels tests, RED is perfect, Blue is perfect, Green is a non sense!!! its lime not green
hamdir said:
No i can deifnitly confirm serious color issue with the N7
download display tester and go to the dead pixels tests, RED is perfect, Blue is perfect, Green is a non sense!!! its lime not green
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I can definitely confirm I have no serious color issues with my N7.
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The Verge LG Nexus 4 review

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review
Enjoy!
Thanks.
They are cute to keep the notification LED on when photographing.
I'm anxiously waiting for Android Police's review.
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I accidentally knocked the device off of my dining table and onto a hardwood floor... cracking the glass on the back
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I live in the US and I don't care for LTE. If you have to pay lots and lots of money for internet service on your phone, you wouldn't care. I am mostly on WIFI and many places where I live has Wifi hotspots. and HSPA+ gives me about 1MBps which is more than enough for my non-WiFi Connection.
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Yeah, like wtf. So when Apple had glass on their phone for 2 years straight it wasn't a problem but a design of a sleek phone. Now when a Nexus has it, it's a problem because the moron dropped it? Really?
His giving the screen a score of 8, but giving the screen on the Optimus G a 9 seems a little odd.
Disappointing.
I'll probably just stick with my GS2 and wait for my free upgrade in April.
That was a pretty bad review.
The only thing I heard in the video review was: "It has no LTE, yada yada... So basically don't buy it because it DOES NOT HAVE LTE etc etc" The guy sounds like a complete moron only focusing on something idiotic like that.
What I also don't understand is that he gives the Optimus G screen a 9 and the Nex4 an 8. Aren't they identical!?
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Yeah, like wtf. So when Apple had glass on their phone for 2 years straight it wasn't a problem but a design of a sleek phone. Now when a Nexus has it, it's a problem because the moron dropped it? Really?
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Yeah i kinda lol'd, i do agree it would suck a lot, especially given you can't easily replace it(but atleast probably both easier and cheaper than the iphone), but still, this didn't seem to be a very huge point with either the iPhone 4 or the 4s.
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That glass covering is cause for concern, however. While testing the phone, I accidentally knocked the device off of my dining table and onto a hardwood floor... cracking the glass on the back. It's a small fracture, but had I just paid $300 for the device, I would be irate, and I'm not sure what LG or Google's policy is on replacement.
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iPhone 4s:
The glass back — while incredibly prone to shattering on impact — feels as sleek and sexy as ever.
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Oh, you!
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His giving the screen a score of 8, but giving the screen on the Optimus G a 9 seems a little odd.
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Maybe the screen is calibrated differently, or there are quality fluctuations between the screens.
Camera is better than expected, which was pretty much my only concern with this device. :good:
CRACK OMG I am going to get an otter box for this phone.
I read the whole thing, and its a crap review - so don't bother,
I constantly got the feeling that because this retard broke the back of his phone, it now 'breaks easily' and the fact of no LTE is a big no-no for this guy, so I got the feeling throughout the whole review, that he preferred other devices because of these 2 things.
Even stating its the fastest phone hes used, with super battery etc - the tone of the review all led back to his own stupidity of dropping it on a hard floor and the lack of LTE.
To Verge:
LTE is not the norm AT ALL!
UK has one network only offering it, and its only in selected cities - LTE also gives very little performance increase for browsing (only downloading)
This guy speaks like a typical American, sorry. (Generic)
He's arrogant enough to think America has it, so assumes everyone else has (or doesn't care that nobody else has it,but because he can get it and wants it - then it should have it or its crap), and because he wants to load websites a second longer and boast of speed test results, doesn't mean everyone is willing to double their monthly costs for LTE when most people use internet for just browsing, not to mention the crazy data caps, high battery drain etc that LTE brings - it also slows down software updates!
Im glad the review cleared up super performance & battery - but the rest just stunk of bitterness for his own stupidity.
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I'm not sure what to make of it lol.
In his unscientific battery life test he says it's good, but according to Anandtech and Engadget battery life is slightly better than the Galaxy Nexus but worse than the Optimus G.
guys read endgadget review and forgot about the verge **** one : http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
I am currently running a Galaxy S3 and am considering this phone or the Optimus G .. 4.2 looks incredible, not sure how long it would take LG to update their flagship phone to the current software. Since they built the Nexus 4 you would think that they would have a head start.
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guys read endgadget review and forgot about the verge **** one : http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
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Thanks,
This panel is one of the best you can get right now, and is on par with the 720p displays we've played with on the One X and Samsung Galaxy S III. It ranks in between those two competitors when it comes to color saturation. The darks are as dark as you'll see on the One X (but less than the GS3), and the whites are brighter than on either rival phone. We also noticed that the Nexus shows off the darkest reds and magentas, as well as the lightest greens and yellows. As a result, your viewing experience may differ slightly from other 720p displays, but we've been very pleased with what we've seen on the Nexus 4.
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Thats more like it, it should be similar to ONE X but of course, different colour reproductions always differ from screens, this is neither a good, or bad thing - some colours will look better than one x, whilst others will look better on one x - but a review saying on-par, is what we all expected - certainly the opposite of what verge said.
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guys read endgadget review and forgot about the verge **** one : http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
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Thanks, I'd much rather read the Engadget review. The Verge guys are always a bunch of tools, I never take them seriously.
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I read the whole thing, and its a crap review - so don't bother,
I constantly got the feeling that because this retard broke the back of his phone, it now 'breaks easily' and the fact of no LTE is a big no-no for this guy, so I got the feeling throughout the whole review, that he preferred other devices because of these 2 things.
Even stating its the fastest phone hes used, with super battery etc - the tone of the review all led back to his own stupidity of dropping it on a hard floor and the lack of LTE.
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:laugh: The baby crying for dropping his candies on the floor?
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He's arrogant enough to think America has it, so assumes everyone else has (or doesn't care that nobody else has it,but because he can get it and wants it .....
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From time to time, some of them do forget they're also watched by the other 95% population on the planet.:laugh::laugh:

Holy mother of dead pixels!

Im switching to the S4, this is ridiculous.
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It's like a galaxy....
Who's to say you wont get the same or even worse with the S4, It can happen with any model you get
I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
cac9478 said:
I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
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Yes but if you get another phone there's no guarantee that there wont be more of less dead pixels. It's a crap shoot.
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I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
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Do you think we all just deal with dead pixels and this is a completely normal thing?
Ok, well...see yaw layer. Lolololol.
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Just did a pixel test mine looks fine. You just had bad luck why don't you just exchange it
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Im switching to the S4, this is ridiculous.
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Looks like user error!
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Screw Getting it replaced.All HTC Ones have turned to s*** because 1 phone is loaded with dead pixels...You were looking for a reason to hate it to be honest with you.
I'm never buying a screen again! My girlfriend's parents' TV got dead pixels after using it, all of my phones get dead pixels in the shape of middle fingers, it's just offensive. I wish someone would invent a paper screen with ink... That way when it messed up I could change the page...
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Go get a iPhone. You belong with that group of chodes
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Screw Getting it replaced.All HTC Ones have turned to s*** because 1 phone is loaded with dead pixels...You were looking for a reason to hate it to be honest with you.
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I know that most of you don't venture too far from xda, but if you did you would realize this problem is very widespread. One guy went through four of them at the store and found several dead pixels on every single one of them. To all of you that say your screen has none, look closer because I highly doubt that. HTC's biggest failure has always been quality control, and the One is no exception. I decided to give them a chance again after using Samsung phones for the past 3 years, and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed. I'm not going to waste my time swapping out phones over and over, when I could just exchange it for a phone company, that from my personal experience, doesn't exhibit such severe defects.
It's not widespread, I've got 2 HTC ones and both have zero dead pixels.
With a device there are millions of in the world you have to expect a few lemons . If you found 50 people with dead pixels on their LCD you're still not "widespread".
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I had a dead pixel on my first HTC one went and exchanged it no problem. I haven't had an issue with my phone ever since. I'm with every one else you are just looking for a reason to switch.
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Actually they look to be stuck on a color! there are programs you can run to fix that and if it persists i would exchange it. The S4 is NOT a better phone take a few to look at the reviews, lag , cheap quality etc just lets all calm down.
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I know that most of you don't venture too far from xda, but if you did you would realize this problem is very widespread. One guy went through four of them at the store and found several dead pixels on every single one of them. To all of you that say your screen has none, look closer because I highly doubt that. HTC's biggest failure has always been quality control, and the One is no exception. I decided to give them a chance again after using Samsung phones for the past 3 years, and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed. I'm not going to waste my time swapping out phones over and over, when I could just exchange it for a phone company, that from my personal experience, doesn't exhibit such severe defects.
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You really don't get the concept of reporter bias, do you? The population of people who post on forums tend to be the most vocal in their complaints. HTC has sold millions of these phones, and you're going to claim "this problem is very widespread" based on a skewed sample? Please go take some statistics classes.
By that token, I shouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 10, my Nexus 7, my Transformer TF300T, my iPad 3, my Galaxy Tab 10.1, or my HP TouchPad. Or even my Galaxy Player 4.0.
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You really don't get the concept of reporter bias, do you? The population of people who post on forums tend to be the most vocal in their complaints. HTC has sold millions of these phones, and you're going to claim "this problem is very widespread" based on a skewed sample? Please go take some statistics classes.
By that token, I shouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 10, my Nexus 7, my Transformer TF300T, my iPad 3, my Galaxy Tab 10.1, or my HP TouchPad. Or even my Galaxy Player 4.0.
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Went to the Sprint store and with the manager went through 4 NIB HTC One's. All of them had at least 4 stuck pixels, the worst one had over 10. Had him grab me an S4, and as expected, not a single stuck or dead pixel. I, like many, thought the One was going to be the phone that would bring HTC back into the game, but unfortunately that is not the case. You all go ahead and keep defending your purchase, but I can guarantee if you look close enough there are some stuck pixels on your screen. I am now the proud owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S4, and while the speaker quality may not be as good, it's still better than a screen that looks like the Milky Way Galaxy. I don't need statistics classes to tell me the display on that phone is a POS.
Took me three tries to get an decent HTC one. And even then I had to settle with some gaps because I didn't want to risk dead pixels.
I agree with the quality control issues.
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Went to the Sprint store and with the manager went through 4 NIB HTC One's. All of them had at least 4 stuck pixels, the worst one had over 10. Had him grab me an S4, and as expected, not a single stuck or dead pixel. I, like many, thought the One was going to be the phone that would bring HTC back into the game, but unfortunately that is not the case. You all go ahead and keep defending your purchase, but I can guarantee if you look close enough there are some stuck pixels on your screen. I am now the proud owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S4, and while the speaker quality may not be as good, it's still better than a screen that looks like the Milky Way Galaxy. I don't need statistics classes to tell me the display on that phone is a POS.
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I'd say trolling, but you're really just a joke at this point. You can guarantee that my phone has issues? You've crossed from being an angry buyer to outright silly. Color cycling my screen shows no dead pixels. I've actually never had any dead pixels of any kind, on any device I've own-- maybe it's because I take care of my device?
It's comical how fast you run from accepted statistical practice. After all, if your evidence is terrible, why try to play the game with facts?
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I'd say trolling, but you're really just a joke at this point. You can guarantee that my phone has issues? You've crossed from being an angry buyer to outright silly. Color cycling my screen shows no dead pixels. I've actually never had any dead pixels of any kind, on any device I've own-- maybe it's because I take care of my device?
It's comical how fast you run from accepted statistical practice. After all, if your evidence is terrible, why try to play the game with facts?
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Grab yourself a magnifying class, you will be amazed by what you find!

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