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Innocell 3500mAh from Seidio

Aside from this battery and cover completely destroying the sleekness of the Incredible... Is anyone ordering it?
I'm thinking about it, but then again I don't care for the brick look n' feel on a phone.

Nope
Looks horrid.
I own every OTHER battery made for the Incredible (nice strategy ... keep releasing larger and larger). The 1750mah did not do much for me, but the 2150mah is wonderful (especially if you follow the PROPER charging method of: [1] charge with power on, [2] when orange goes to green choose power off, [3] wait for orange to go green again).

is that battery out already? I thought that it wasn't coming out for a while so I ordered the 2150

jdmba said:
Looks horrid.
I own every OTHER battery made for the Incredible (nice strategy ... keep releasing larger and larger). The 1750mah did not do much for me, but the 2150mah is wonderful (especially if you follow the PROPER charging method of: [1] charge with power on, [2] when orange goes to green choose power off, [3] wait for orange to go green again).
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I actually used this charge method on my 1500 ma battery, and it lasts much longer. Moderate usage and I am still at 70% at 5pm in the day. Unplugged it about 7am.

mycomputerisjunk said:
I actually used this charge method on my 1500 ma battery, and it lasts much longer. Moderate usage and I am still at 70% at 5pm in the day. Unplugged it about 7am.
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Quick question. What if you just turned it off to charge it to begin with? Not taking into account if someone uses it as an alarm clock or anything. Just say I turned it off right before I went to sleep.

Nope
the337 said:
Quick question. What if you just turned it off to charge it to begin with? Not taking into account if someone uses it as an alarm clock or anything. Just say I turned it off right before I went to sleep.
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You are free to mess around as you see fit; but the steps are as outlined. Charge with the power on; wait till green; choose power off; wait till green; unplug and enjoy much longer battery life.

Let's try this again. 3500 Innocell
Got 2 of the 3500's and turned back in the 2150 to Verizon. Got the Charger that allows the phone and the spare 3500 to be charged simultaneously. 1st Battery was put in after the light just turned green from charging. This lasted about 36 hours before the message about needing to be put on the charger came back on. By this time the 2nd battery had been charging for about 15+ hours. Plopped it in and as of right now. The battery usage is reporting 48:21:51 Up time Awake time is 8:03:49 and there is 4 segments left of the 10 showing for the remaining battery. This is the kind of performance I am expecting from a battery. I will later perform a hard test on the battery. I will do an all movie time running of the battery to see how long it can last when the screen is on the full time running Movies.

3500 Mah performance Awesome!
Completed the testing of the 3500 Mah down to 4% of remaining power Watched 4 full length movies each over 2 hours. People who take long flights Get ready for fun. Phone at 4% remaining = 1 bar of 10 on battery screen.
Uptime 26 hours 45 min.
Awake time 13 hours 18 min Based on this a single battery would allow only 1 battery to be used for an international flight from Chicago to Hong Kong and still have plenty of battery left to get to a charger. The bad part is this Verizon phone will not work in HK or China. Different frequency from what I have been reading.
Cell Standby 23%
Android System 21%
Display 17%
Phone Idle 12%
Bluetooth 11%
Wi-Fi 10%
Mediaserver 4%
Voice Calls 2%
Rating "Best Battery for the HTC Incredible Power User" A+

my experience with a cheap aftermarket hd7 battery

Recently I bought a cheap battery which is obviously from china.
And it looks like the original HTC battery with the same black colour.
On first use it came with 80% charge level . I used the battery until it drained . It lasted the same as my original worn out battery of 6 months at the same percentage (maybe due to old batt stats in the is)
the following charge cycles( full drain and full charge)
First full charge cycle -battery only charged to 72%.
2nd cycle - battery charged to 75%
3rd cycle -battery charged to 83%.
one of the major difference is that with this battery,the phone shows that red juice cylinder , when it starts charging from 0%. Something I didn't saw with the original HTC battery after mango beta .
The first 2 cycles the battery exhibited the rapid drain symptom after plugging off the charger .
after the 3rd cycle it does not have this behavior and drained normally.
After this 3rd cycle the battery indicator was stuck at 80%. Used the phone for 3g browsing for 30 mins . Restarted the phone and it showed 91%. Used till 77% and charged the phone to 100%
At this time the battery is doing great . Will do another cycle a few days later to see how it goes.
In between these charges I had some small partial charges.
So far the battery now holds better and able to surf continuously on 3g for 40 mins and its at 90%, WiFi off , location on ,bt off ,battery saver on ,
the funny thing is that it is like the same quality original HTC battery .
is is mango with latest firmware update.

there are some problems with the original HD7 HTC battery.
mine did not last long before it died.
HTC needs to do QA on its batterires. They are the worst ever used

I recently (two days ago?) had a big 3500mAh battery arrive which i ordered from the internet, i paid about £14 for it. I've noticed it's a little weird in terms of performance, and i'm not sure if that's anything to do with the HD7 software side, or if i've just been ripped off.
3500mAh is ~3x the capacity of the stock HD7 battery so i was expecting charging times to be way, way longer but also for my phone to last a good deal longer too, but i've just been seeing major inconsistencies. My new battery would charge and discharge faster than the stock one that came with my phone, it'd stick on 99% charging, it's really confusing.
At the moment, it seems to be behaving itself with 56% time since last charge 15 hours, time remaining 9 hours. I have reason to suspect that when you use a new battery that the battery information Windows Phone 7/7.5 provides is WILDLY inaccurate, and it might take some time for the software to get used to the new battery.
I'm not sure, i'm just finding batteries really confusing!

Epsis said:
I recently (two days ago?) had a big 3500mAh battery arrive which i ordered from the internet, i paid about £14 for it. I've noticed it's a little weird in terms of performance, and i'm not sure if that's anything to do with the HD7 software side, or if i've just been ripped off.
3500mAh is ~3x the capacity of the stock HD7 battery so i was expecting charging times to be way, way longer but also for my phone to last a good deal longer too, but i've just been seeing major inconsistencies. My new battery would charge and discharge faster than the stock one that came with my phone, it'd stick on 99% charging, it's really confusing.
At the moment, it seems to be behaving itself with 56% time since last charge 15 hours, time remaining 9 hours. I have reason to suspect that when you use a new battery that the battery information Windows Phone 7/7.5 provides is WILDLY inaccurate, and it might take some time for the software to get used to the new battery.
I'm not sure, i'm just finding batteries really confusing!
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try using a custom rom, the battery usualy lasts longer. the sdcard tweak works well . i beleive its a prblem with how wp7 OS handles the sdcard power management
i beleive the OS uses power consumption vs power capacity to judge the gauge. also u whenever u full charge the battery , u need to let it rest for a few hours. so ideally every evening u get home, charge it to 100 % from whatever is left with and unplug from the charger immediately after full. leaving it ont he charger whole night seems to drain it when u take it out fromt he charger next morning and start using it.
try using this app battery discharger ( free ) from the marketplace: it calibrated my battery well
when its close to dying like 20%, just run this app , and fully drained, charge full again
now my battery last 30+ hours on idle. i am not sure if yr 15 hours is correct on that size u have ,

Gishum said:
there are some problems with the original HD7 HTC battery.
mine did not last long before it died.
HTC needs to do QA on its batterires. They are the worst ever used
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yep i agree, the original HTC batteries seem to be worst than the cheap aftermarket versions

Battery won't totally charge

hey guys... I'm back
actually I've had bought a original battery from my phone(made in japan, finished in korea, and bought it in official samsung store in davao city, philippines which i've bought it Php700+) cuz my older battery died(its fvcking swelling)
and I've tried a healthy charge by turning off the phone while charging and charge it in 3 hours(cuz its new) and after 100%, i've played it for a long time and got drained. And while I'm charging(original stock samsung charger)for just 15 minutes it got stuck to 1%(power off) and re-insert the charger. After I insert the charger, it shows 61% and after an hour, it says it charged 100%. I didn't believe it's 100% so I've re-insert my charger again(and my battery) and while charging in 30 minutes, it still stuck in 99%.
I've tried some battery calibrations but it made the situation worse(it made my battery meter stuck to 50%) so I've tried my insticts: ODIN mode(just to check and remove the batterystats.bin bloat)
and actually, it removed the bloatware, but still the problem is there
I've roamed around the internet and i've found that you must need a battery calibration by charging it to fully 100%(i can't do that cuz it just forever stuck to 99%) and drain it to 0% by turning on the phone while it's low battery until it won't turn on(tried this twice), and charge it in 100%(attempts to charge it but it jumps to 1% to 31%) and repeat the cycle until you felt the phone is getting drained slowly-not fast AF(i've felt it drains fast AF)
[I've tried those and pls. I need some help cuz it's just a waste of money just to buy another battery for my phone.]
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Phone Specs:
android 2.3(AOSP but managed it to stock by using odin)
901mb or ram(swapped by ramexpander)
1.25ghz single-core cpu(overclocked by riskey kernel but it might affect the battery so i've just put it to 832mhz minimum and 832mhz maximum using antutu cpu master pro)
Superuser(rooted phone/rotted phone)

ok there are the proof(or attachments)
right now my phone's battery was still ok, but still gets instantly 100%
pls help

battery dead or?

Well bought this phone back in mid 2017,and because of sickness I haven't used it that much at all.
I charged the battery 11 times so far and was keeping the phone in a desk drawer.
A month ago I noticed that the phone won't turn on,so I plug the charger on and charged the battery to 100 %.
I supposed that the phone was on,I didn't turn it off,and the battery left to 0% and shutdown the phone.
I really can't say how long it was on 0% (suppose like maybe a month).
Today I noticed very bad battery results.
Batterylife with GSam Battery Monitor is around 12 h only.
Was the "bolded text" the reason that battery died or the reason was not using the phone for 2 years?
Is there a software to check the damage of the battery?
I installed accubattery pro but for some reason doesn't offer me Health status of battery.

paparazzo79 said:
Well bought this phone back in mid 2017,and because of sickness I haven't used it that much at all.
I charged the battery 11 times so far and was keeping the phone in a desk drawer.
A month ago I noticed that the phone won't turn on,so I plug the charger on and charged the battery to 100 %.
I supposed that the phone was on,I didn't turn it off,and the battery left to 0% and shutdown the phone.
I really can't say how long it was on 0% (suppose like maybe a month).
Today I noticed very bad battery results.
Batterylife with GSam Battery Monitor is around 12 h only.
Was the "bolded text" the reason that battery died or the reason was not using the phone for 2 years?
Is there a software to check the damage of the battery?
I installed accubattery pro but for some reason doesn't offer me Health status of battery.
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I would give the battery a few full cycles to see it that sorts it or yes, the battery it would seem is on its last legs. I don't know what app to recommend as an alternative though. (My battery is 23 months old and still performs as it did when I brought the phone)

I would drain it to 5% (maybe 1%) then charge it to 100% (without using phone while charging) a few times.
Then see how it goes. Afterwards charge phone from 20% or 15%.

Ok.I will charge it to 100% and report you with results with duration time on battery and you tell me how bad is it

GSam Monitor:
Battery Life: 3d 19.9h (5h 26m active)
Screen On:3h 40m (1h 17m Max)
In Android: battery estimated battery life: 2d 1h

Xiaomi programmed obsolescence on battery

H, since I updated from miui 10 to miui 11 and even now that I have miui 12 I have noticed that the battery doesn't last as long as before. I state that since I purchased the phone (July 2019) I have always charged the battery in the best way trying to never go below 20% and trying not to go beyond 80% so I don't think a battery can lose more than 30% of its real capacity in less than a year of life. Starting to investigate I found that the battery does not charge at its real capacity i.e. 3300 mAh but at around 2200/2300 mAh. To verify all this I have carried out several tests and the easiest way to verify it is to look at the battery characteristics through the AIDA64 app (screenshot below). From these tests it seems that the device limits the real battery capacity by not allowing it to be charged to its maximum capacity. A reply to what I wrote can be found by looking at some system files that are located in /sys/class/power_supply/battery. In particular, looking at the file called charge_full (screenshot below) you can see how the value of the file is much lower than the real battery capacity. I hope someone more competent than I can understand how to solve this hateful problem and I also invite you to check the value to try to better understand the cause of this problem.

I'm using miuimix 12.0.2 stable and the capacity is not 3300, either.
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And sorry i don't know how to post a picture, mine is 2943.

I know that batteries won't be forever and are always decreasing during the year but I think Xiaomi do a good job. I have some devices from 4 years ago and they reduced their batteries just a little. In the case of Mi 9 I have it since March 2019 and my battery still being the same. I charge it from 10-25% to 100% just some times I charge it until 80-90%, maybe every month I let it to 0% I wait for a while and charge it again to 100%.
Sent from my MI 9 using Tapatalk

From the photo you posted it doesn't seem that your battery is fully charged .. we have done other research and we have discovered that most likely Xiaomi has inserted in the kernel a sort of programmed obsolescence on the battery.

Can you disclose some of the research you done on the kernel it seems interesting. I have checked with Aida64 my battery before and it never charges to 3300 even if you leave the phone plugged in the value will keep increasing but once you plug it out it drops...still getting about 5 hrs sot so not bad...I wonder if you change that value in the full charger screen you posted what will happen?

"From these tests it seems that the device limits the real battery capacity by not allowing it to be charged to its maximum capacity. "
Actually it's better for battery life longterm to keep the device in the middle - never 0, never 100
I've certainly lost no battery life in the year + I've had the Mi 9

You are doing a good job of using the phone in the 20 to 80% range. But do you charge it at the lowest possible temperature? Temperature is a battery's worst enemy. Wireless charging is a joke. It's a glued heater in the battery.
I for instance, almost all the times charge it in front a mini fan. With this I can charge it 5ºC below normal temp charge.
And like @cezikos said, use quickcharge only on emergencies. Use at max a 1.5Amps charger. Quick charge is a marketing thing. The chemistry of the batteries are almost the same in this 10 years.
Mi mi9 have one year and the battery is 100%.

The important thing that you should precise is a type of charger that you are using. Do you use Quick Charge? If Yes, then battery capacity will be dramatically degrated. I use 5V 0.5-1.5A charger, it depends how fast I need to charge the Phone.
The next thing is a battery temperature, not Only while charging the Phone but also when you are using it. I`m using CPU Monitor and it's overlay to see the battery temp, you can also configure alerts when battery is starting to overheat.
Heavy Gaming decreases the life of the battery, there are a lot of variables that you have to cobsider, not only "programmed obsolescence"

I had the same problem. Hopefully the battery could make 3 hours of screen, the strange thing was that suddenly it began to last very little, and I was with that problem for a couple of weeks, so I decided to calibrate the battery hoping to have some results and now the battery lasted again approximately 7 hours of screen. Try to make the battery run out from 100% to 0%. The system will not let you start because it calculates that it has no battery, so what I did was leave it in recovery mode and with the screen always active, until it turns off completely, then with a 5V 1A charger. With the phone turned off, charge it until it reaches 100%. I did it three times and the battery was back to the way it was before. You could try to do the same and I hope you can solve that problem.
Sorry for bad English

I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!

Battery on my Mi9 (mildly used in one year) lost 500 mAh.

Confirmed, with this trick, in doing it ONE time, I have the phone running well again, more than 8h screen on.
0.5 discharge in sleep.
.eu 20.3.19

onolox said:
I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
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Thanks! I just don't know how to clean the battery status...

You will need root.
Then are several apps that can do it. Like l speed or adiutor.

And now again confirming, in one month the phone is completely lost regarding battery again, just 3h SOT from 80 to 20. There's some pretty **** up code regarding battery in xiaomi android.

I have no problems at all using it since release.
newest xiaomi eu.

I also have problems with battery drain...

Hello guys, just want to share with you a little trick that just helped me get better SoT. First of all, I just want to mention that I'm on the newest xiaomi.eu rom (20.8.13) and that AccuBattery is showing that my battery is at 2500mAh estimated capacity. (That might be different in reality, because it's only after one charging, so don't believe it that much). Lately I noticed a significant drain while the phone was idle (screen turned off). It was draining like 1-2% every hour and I could barely get over 5h SoT. So I investigated a little bit, and found a solution on reddit. The thing was that I had many apps on autostart. If you want to check them and turn it off then open Settings > type 'autostart' in the search bar > open it > 3 dots > show system apps > turn off every unnecessary app that you think don't need that option. I turned off every app, except: Gmail, GPay, Google Photos, Clock, Calendar, Bank app, Weather app and the app called 'safety system addon' - it might be called different because I'm not on english language on my phone. I left them on just in case to have notifications/synchronization, though i don't know if it's necessary. After that there was almost 0% idle drain over the day. Now I'm on 5h4m SoT and still have 25% of battery left. The result might be even better, cause I did this trick just today while my phone was on 90-85%.
Give it guys a try, hope it will improve your daily experience with Mi 9.
P.S. Let me know guys If I could turn off the before mentioned apps and still get notifications and sync from them.

Mine reports 2800mah, debloated with Szaki tool all autostart apps disabled also did factory reset after miui12 update.
Really sad how bad miui12 has turned for me. Im having way worse battery life compared to miui11 the idle is mostly the same its just the battery doesn't last as it used to last with miui11.

onolox said:
I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
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I can confirm this. AIDA64 said my battery was at 2550mah capacity when fully charged. I followed this procedure and now after being fully charged, it says 3125 mah, which is much better.
I'm curious about the screen on time now. Me happy. Thanks!