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Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
tpbklake said:
Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
tpbklake said:
Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
tpbklake said:
With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
tpbklake said:
The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,
My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question
hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
If you don't want to upgrade your HBOOT to blackrose 2.0 or 2.0.2 post here so the developers know who to support for the Sense 3.6/4.0 roms they release.
I can also try to help you, I am also on 6.13.1002 and don't intend to change it.
kaijura said:
If you don't want to upgrade your HBOOT to blackrose 2.0 or 2.0.2 post here so the developers know who to support for the Sense 3.6/4.0 roms they release.
I can also try to help you, I am also on 6.13.1002 and don't intend to change it.
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Im using the same hboot. However I may upgrade if you can still go back to S-ON with this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555
incrediblealex said:
Im using the same hboot. However I may upgrade if you can still go back to S-ON with this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555
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I think that was made with an old hboot in mind, before HTC started 2.0 bootloaders and the lib partition. You could try it, but I don't know any effects.
As the time it stands from my knowledge reading around here, once you go 2.0+ you can't go back down unless you go to htc-dev and unlock thus putting your phone's imei in their database
kaijura said:
I think that was made with an old hboot in mind, before HTC started 2.0 bootloaders and the lib partition. You could try it, but I don't know any effects.
As the time it stands from my knowledge reading around here, once you go 2.0+ you can't go back down unless you go to htc-dev and unlock thus putting your phone's imei in their database
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OK, have you seen the tool made by NonverBose? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
it allows you to downgrade the hboot but not sure if it works with the new hboot or how the S-on method works with blackrose.
6.13.1002 here.
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Htc-phones posted this not sure if helpful
PERSONALLY I ALREADY KNOW THE REASON IT WONT BOOT WITH OLD HBOOT.
it goes like this.
If you want to support older Hboots it's really quite easy:
- on the installer script of your rom do not try to mount the /system/lib partition as it does not exist
- on the ramdisk, init.saga.rc, just take out the line that is mounting the partition, or at the very least, take out the "wait for mount" statement, that blocks until the partition is mounted, and that's what's causing the boot to fail.
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incrediblealex said:
OK, have you seen the tool made by NonverBose? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
it allows you to downgrade the hboot but not sure if it works with the new hboot or how the S-on method works with blackrose.
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That's the thread where I saw you can downgrade from 2.0+ if you go to htcdev and unlock first. There is no known method to stay s-off and downgrade without going to HTC dev, as I understand it.
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Htc-phones posted this not sure if helpful
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Yeah, I have a sense 3.6 rom stock made from the RUU and it's booting and working fine, even after partition format etc.
I don't know if he can make it work since he doesn't have a vivo to test with, but he is doing sense 4.0.
Normally I don't like sense, but this is just a side project to get this working with the rev hboot.
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That's the thread where I saw you can downgrade from 2.0+ if you go to htcdev and unlock first. There is no known method to stay s-off and downgrade without going to HTC dev, as I understand it.
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I think it uses tacoroot. I downgraded before from 2.00 to 1.13 to use revolutionary without unlocking at htcdev
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I think it uses tacoroot. I downgraded before from 2.00 to 1.13 to use revolutionary without unlocking at htcdev
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Can you list your steps? for those who want to try it, we need a confirmed working method
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Can you list your steps? for those who want to try it, we need a confirmed working method
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I'm here with 6.13.1002 as well, and I would prefer to stay with that Hboot...
BTW kaijura I came from hboot 2.0 without passing by htc-dev, I just run nonverbose's tool...
Originally that tool used hellion bug or something similar but now uses tacoroot and work for sure with hboot 2.0 ( personally tested) not sure about 2.02.
The step are simple: just extrat the tool and answer the question...
If I recall corretly: downgrade, I don't have htc-dev unlock phone, I want to create a goldcard and that's it!
The script does all, u have only to reboot the phone and tell him when is rebooted!
Interesting, thanks for the share. I will read into it on the tacoroot.
Here is a link for stock HTC Sense 3.6 ICS 4.0.4 from the Chinese RUU. It's not based on Niks' or Lost prophet's rom. I just made it so it's working for 6.13.1002 hboot for anyone who wants to test it to try it out instead of waiting.
I don't intend to develop this rom or add features to it. It's just a test rom to see if it works and if you want to see what sense 3.6 is like without having to upgrade hboot.
STOCK CHINESE RUU WORKING FOR HBOOT 6.13.1002:
some bugs I've noticed:
- No play store, this may be due to related with CN region as they don't have google services (gmail, youtube, etc). Need to figure if it's APK related or something else.
- SU isn't loaded in yet. I'll have to look later what's wrong.
- Wifi MIGHT or MIGHT NOT work. It seems to be a regional issue and I need SU to install wifixmanager to test it.
- don't know what else, I didn't use it very long.
Rest of everything should be working. Mobile data, camera/camcorder, gmail, youtube, browser. Like I said, it's just a test rom so you know what sense 3.6 is like when the official one is ready.
http://www.4shared.com/zip/3Wy-g_WB/NoSU_noStore_Wifimaybe_rom.html
kaijura, first yes its correct that with the newish tacoroot exploit we no longer need to unlock via htcdev (thanks for pointing this out guys).
Secondly I have successfully swapped from revolutionary hboot to blackrose 2.02 and then back to revolutionary, no PC connection required. Here's the steps I took (and that others may at their own risk )
Make sure you have a nandroid or rom you wish to install. I know I shouldn't have to tell most people this so late in the game but anythings possible.
Download blackrose and extract hboot_blackrose.img to your sdcard root. Its not necessary to use the root folder but fits in this context.
Open terminal, or download and open if you dont have, and type:
Code:
su
dd if=/sdcard/hboot_blackrose.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
then reboot into recovery.
4ext touch recommended that I do a full system format, but you could probably just get away with formatting cache.
At this stage you should probably verify that you have actually installed the blackrose, by entering hboot.
To revert to revolutionary, its pretty much the same procedure. Simply put revhboot.img in your sdcard root folder and type:
Code:
su
dd if=/sdcard/revhboot.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
Reboot into recovery and format the cache, and verify again if necessary.
Edit: using the dd command does carry some risk. You should check the md5sums before flashing. This can be done in terminal
Code:
md5sum /sdcard/hboot_blackrose.img
Code:
md5sum /sdcard/revhboot.img
or in your favourite file explorer.
hboot_blackrose.img
MD5: 9ccb6c894bba1a32a551a6569fc6fccd
revhboot.img
MD5: b9758c59b660cb3dcf5037ec5ccd6b78
I am still on the revolutionary Hboot, and I do not intend to change unless there is either a performance improvement, or if I have to.
I am on ice cold sandwich
I dont really want to be messing with things I dont usually mess with, just as a precaution
Haven't you guys got around the problem anyway?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553357
"ramdisk modded to remove new lib partition"
Just my 2 cents
And thanks to the devs for all your hard work
hboot 7.0....
i was able to install latest rom [Rom] WE WANT ICS v2 by Nikhil007 a.k.a Nikhil Dhayatkar with ur mentioned hboot without problems....i also wouldnt change it because of the possible trouble....so it seems to work also with other hboot then blackrose...at least for me
I am on 6.13.1002 HBOOT as well - revolutionary. Not intending to change anytime soon either. Thanks for the support kaijura.
i'm using hboot 6.13.1002 here,
not intend to switch to higher hboot if possible ...
I am pretty happy staying on the Revolutionary H-boot if possible. Will see what happens in regard to development, why root further if I don't need to
I am also on revolutionary hboot 6.13.1002 here. i would also like the option of leaving my current bootloader alone.
good luck & thanks for the support kaijura
The ARHD4.0.0 is coming，right？
tomrrow？:laugh:
Xingke Xu said:
The ARHD4.0.0 is coming，right？
tomrrow？:laugh:
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It's android 4.0.4. The ARHD version is 3.0.0
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Any different between ARHD n STOCK ICS????
ayieo7 said:
Any different between ARHD n STOCK ICS????
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The differences are noted on the Opening Post. mike1986 for the most part has always tried to keep ARHD's look and feel pretty stock although his tweaks simply make Sense very usable.
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
Me too. I'm keeping away from anything that wants me to switch to blackrose hBoot. It's a pity, I like ARHD. Mike, do something, to make /lib a part of root partition, than as a separate partition, as needed by HTC ICS 4.04.
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ayieo7 said:
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
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Yes i am in the same situation, How do we flash the new HBOOT ?
You install it through windows or from adb. Check the blackrose topic.
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ragapa97 said:
Me too. I'm keeping away from anything that wants me to switch to blackrose hBoot. It's a pity, I like ARHD. Mike, do something, to make /lib a part of root partition, than as a separate partition, as needed by HTC ICS 4.04.
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AFAIK that new /lib partition is needed because otherwise / or /system will be too small. So, as I understand it some time you'll have to upgrade hboot or you can't use the latest ROMs...
ayieo7 said:
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
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to a first approximation, it appears to work fine without blackrose.
I installed ARHD3.0 on my IncS with HBOOT 6.13 this morning and no problems so far.
*searches for some wood to knock on*
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Yes i am in the same situation, How do we flash the new HBOOT ?
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I just put this file (http://d-h.st/SjY) on an SD-Card & boot into bootloader to flash BlackRose, but I have full S-OFF with XTC-Clip so I'm not sure what other configurations are able do this!
[PG32IMG.zip link & file courtesy of Inferi0r]
P.S. Removing BlackRose is a different story. I have to use the official binary through windows to command it to uninstall.
hi,
about this Rom (and other Roms also):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195109
it wrote there that i need first to flash Hboot, i downloaded the Rom however there is nothing named Hboot, where can i find the download link for hBoot? and how do i flash the Hboot?
what is the recommended hboot to flash?
do i must to flash hboot(Also if i have already hboot?)
i am new with nexus one...
thanks alot
buddy u got to need to do some reading before touching hboots.
actually nexus one s /system partition size is not enough to fit ICS/JB roms. cos of their big /system requirements.
so for this a workaround has been discovered. that is to install BLACKROSE. after installing blackrose. u can change hboots according to rom reqs n flash the above mentioned roms.
to knw more abt blackrose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
[S-OFF] BLACKROSE (Custom HBOOT) [2012.04.21]
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thanks alot man!
i have some questions:
1. i read aboout the hboot, my phone is allready rooted, how can i install a costum hboot? do i need to flash it via recovery? so why do i need the BLACKROSE software for windows?
2. what is recommended hboot for N1? with big system size? with big cache size? with big data size?
i looked here and there are alot of hboots: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
what is the recommended one for these Roms (for example) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196149
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195109
thanks alot
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buddy u got to need to do some reading before touching hboots.
actually nexus one s /system partition size is not enough to fit ICS/JB roms. cos of their big /system requirements.
so for this a workaround has been discovered. that is to install BLACKROSE. after installing blackrose. u can change hboots according to rom reqs n flash the above mentioned roms.
to knw more abt blackrose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
[S-OFF] BLACKROSE (Custom HBOOT) [2012.04.21]
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if i want to flash hboot, do i need to install the BLACKROSE? or just flash it via recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
thanks alot
mejok said:
if i want to flash hboot, do i need to install the BLACKROSE? or just flash it via recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
thanks alot
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installing BLACKROSE is a MUST... after that you can use those recovery flashable hboot zip s or else change manually using blackrose.
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mejok said:
thanks alot man!
i have some questions:
1. i read aboout the hboot, my phone is allready rooted, how can i install a costum hboot? do i need to flash it via recovery? so why do i need the BLACKROSE software for windows?
2. what is recommended hboot for N1? with big system size? with big cache size? with big data size?
i looked here and there are alot of hboots: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
what is the recommended one for these Roms (for example) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196149
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195109
thanks alot
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Offtopic. I'm having hard time looking for a tuttorial to root my N1. What guide did you followed in rooting your N1?
Just use the universial 1 click root app . then install superuser.
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myturbo1 said:
Just use the universial 1 click root app . then install superuser.
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I installer 1 click root version 1.6.2 and 1.6.1 but it FAIL me to root it.. Maybe the problem is my android version which is 2.3.6?
Hmm . try the gingerbreak apk
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Hello, I have rooted Incredible S - BlackRose , HBOOT 2.03.000, S-OFF, Revolutionary.. and I face a lot of problems, so I decided to get all the stock settings back. I have no idea how to reset HBOOT to 0.98 (i guess?), make S-ON and remove reovolutionary. I've been looking for guides, but couldn't find any. Please help!
Anyone..?
Run the Blackrose installer again, there's an option to unistall Blackrose, it will install a stock Bootloader again
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Run the Blackrose installer again, there's an option to unistall Blackrose, it will install a stock Bootloader again
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Thank you, but after this (see image bellow) the window disappears and I don't get to see blackrose menu.. :/
EDIT: Oh, it was wrong blacrose installer..
Ok, done this.
Now it would be fantastic if anyone could tell me what is RADIO, which version is stock and which one is the best?
tuniekonematei said:
Ok, done this.
Now it would be fantastic if anyone could tell me what is RADIO, which version is stock and which one is the best?
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You don't have to change the Radio version, all of them are extracted from Stock RUUs
A newer Version would be better as it increases signal strengh.
But you already have S-On again, and you can only flash those if you are S-OFF, the only way to flash one if you are S-On is to run a RUU but no need for this if you don't have problems with signal etc.