hi,
about this Rom (and other Roms also):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195109
it wrote there that i need first to flash Hboot, i downloaded the Rom however there is nothing named Hboot, where can i find the download link for hBoot? and how do i flash the Hboot?
what is the recommended hboot to flash?
do i must to flash hboot(Also if i have already hboot?)
i am new with nexus one...
thanks alot
buddy u got to need to do some reading before touching hboots.
actually nexus one s /system partition size is not enough to fit ICS/JB roms. cos of their big /system requirements.
so for this a workaround has been discovered. that is to install BLACKROSE. after installing blackrose. u can change hboots according to rom reqs n flash the above mentioned roms.
to knw more abt blackrose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
[S-OFF] BLACKROSE (Custom HBOOT) [2012.04.21]
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thanks alot man!
i have some questions:
1. i read aboout the hboot, my phone is allready rooted, how can i install a costum hboot? do i need to flash it via recovery? so why do i need the BLACKROSE software for windows?
2. what is recommended hboot for N1? with big system size? with big cache size? with big data size?
i looked here and there are alot of hboots: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
what is the recommended one for these Roms (for example) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196149
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195109
thanks alot
n1newbie said:
buddy u got to need to do some reading before touching hboots.
actually nexus one s /system partition size is not enough to fit ICS/JB roms. cos of their big /system requirements.
so for this a workaround has been discovered. that is to install BLACKROSE. after installing blackrose. u can change hboots according to rom reqs n flash the above mentioned roms.
to knw more abt blackrose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
[S-OFF] BLACKROSE (Custom HBOOT) [2012.04.21]
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if i want to flash hboot, do i need to install the BLACKROSE? or just flash it via recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
thanks alot
mejok said:
if i want to flash hboot, do i need to install the BLACKROSE? or just flash it via recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
thanks alot
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installing BLACKROSE is a MUST... after that you can use those recovery flashable hboot zip s or else change manually using blackrose.
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mejok said:
thanks alot man!
i have some questions:
1. i read aboout the hboot, my phone is allready rooted, how can i install a costum hboot? do i need to flash it via recovery? so why do i need the BLACKROSE software for windows?
2. what is recommended hboot for N1? with big system size? with big cache size? with big data size?
i looked here and there are alot of hboots: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166
what is the recommended one for these Roms (for example) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196149
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195109
thanks alot
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Offtopic. I'm having hard time looking for a tuttorial to root my N1. What guide did you followed in rooting your N1?
Just use the universial 1 click root app . then install superuser.
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myturbo1 said:
Just use the universial 1 click root app . then install superuser.
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I installer 1 click root version 1.6.2 and 1.6.1 but it FAIL me to root it.. Maybe the problem is my android version which is 2.3.6?
Hmm . try the gingerbreak apk
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Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
tpbklake said:
Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
tpbklake said:
Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
tpbklake said:
With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
tpbklake said:
The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,
My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question
hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
The ARHD4.0.0 is coming,right?
tomrrow?:laugh:
Xingke Xu said:
The ARHD4.0.0 is coming,right?
tomrrow?:laugh:
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It's android 4.0.4. The ARHD version is 3.0.0
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Any different between ARHD n STOCK ICS????
ayieo7 said:
Any different between ARHD n STOCK ICS????
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The differences are noted on the Opening Post. mike1986 for the most part has always tried to keep ARHD's look and feel pretty stock although his tweaks simply make Sense very usable.
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
Me too. I'm keeping away from anything that wants me to switch to blackrose hBoot. It's a pity, I like ARHD. Mike, do something, to make /lib a part of root partition, than as a separate partition, as needed by HTC ICS 4.04.
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ayieo7 said:
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
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Yes i am in the same situation, How do we flash the new HBOOT ?
You install it through windows or from adb. Check the blackrose topic.
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ragapa97 said:
Me too. I'm keeping away from anything that wants me to switch to blackrose hBoot. It's a pity, I like ARHD. Mike, do something, to make /lib a part of root partition, than as a separate partition, as needed by HTC ICS 4.04.
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AFAIK that new /lib partition is needed because otherwise / or /system will be too small. So, as I understand it some time you'll have to upgrade hboot or you can't use the latest ROMs...
ayieo7 said:
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
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to a first approximation, it appears to work fine without blackrose.
I installed ARHD3.0 on my IncS with HBOOT 6.13 this morning and no problems so far.
*searches for some wood to knock on*
batuhaniricagil said:
Yes i am in the same situation, How do we flash the new HBOOT ?
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I just put this file (http://d-h.st/SjY) on an SD-Card & boot into bootloader to flash BlackRose, but I have full S-OFF with XTC-Clip so I'm not sure what other configurations are able do this!
[PG32IMG.zip link & file courtesy of Inferi0r]
P.S. Removing BlackRose is a different story. I have to use the official binary through windows to command it to uninstall.
Hi guys, Im running the stock ICS with sense 3.6 with s-on and hboot 2.02.0002. Is there anyway i can get it to be s-offed so i may flash it to other roms in the future?
Use my guide in the development section, its called All in One guide for noobs
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FallenSuisydal said:
Use my guide in the development section, its called All in One guide for noobs
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Worked a charm for me, follow all the steps carefully and you shouldn't have a problem!
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brokenlovez said:
Hi guys, Im running the stock ICS with sense 3.6 with s-on and hboot 2.02.0002. Is there anyway i can get it to be s-offed so i may flash it to other roms in the future?
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me too .... Some body help me (
lorian123 said:
me too .... Some body help me (
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Did you read posts 2 & 3 in this thread?
Post 2 tells you where to find the procedure to use. Search in the Development section and also check out the sticky posts that are in this General section.
Downgrade from 2.02.0002 not 2.00
brokenlovez said:
Hi guys, Im running the stock ICS with sense 3.6 with s-on and hboot 2.02.0002. Is there anyway i can get it to be s-offed so i may flash it to other roms in the future?
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Original poster, did you get this to work ?
I am trying to downgrade from 2.02.0002 and get the following when running the RUU process:-
"THE ROM UPDATE UTILITY CANNOT UPDATE YOUR ANDROID PHONE"
"PLEASE GET THE CORRECT ROM UPDATE UTILITY AND TRY AGAIN"
I notice you are on 2.02.0002 the same, but the link to 'All in One Noob Guide For Downgrade and S Off' actually says 2.00 and not 2.02.
Just wondering if you got the same issue as me and the poster who mentioned the link didnt see you said 2.02.
Thanks
Regards
Nigel
nigie said:
Original poster, did you get this to work ?
I am trying to downgrade from 2.02.0002 and get the following when running the RUU process:-
"THE ROM UPDATE UTILITY CANNOT UPDATE YOUR ANDROID PHONE"
"PLEASE GET THE CORRECT ROM UPDATE UTILITY AND TRY AGAIN"
I notice you are on 2.02.0002 the same, but the link to 'All in One Noob Guide For Downgrade and S Off' actually says 2.00 and not 2.02.
Just wondering if you got the same issue as me and the poster who mentioned the link didnt see you said 2.02.
Thanks
Regards
Nigel
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I was working with a user this week that was trying to use the script to downgrade HBOOT 2.02.0002 and it appears that the tacoroot exploit to get temp root does not work on HBOOT 2.02.0002, so the script is unable to run misc_version to change the mainver value to 2.00.0000, so therefore it will not work at the moment for a stock, unrooted phone.
You would have to resort to unlocking the bootloader at HTCDEV.com, install a custom recovery and then root the ROM in order to use the downgrade and gain S-OFF.
tpbklake said:
You would have to resort to unlocking the bootloader at HTCDEV.com, install a custom recovery and then root the ROM in order to use the downgrade and gain S-OFF.
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I have used HTCDEV.com to unlock the bootloader, but how can I flash the recovery without root privileges? I have try unsucessfully with 4EXT Recovery Control
tpbklake said:
I was working with a user this week that was trying to use the script to downgrade HBOOT 2.02.0002 and it appears that the tacoroot exploit to get temp root does not work on HBOOT 2.02.0002, so the script is unable to run misc_version to change the mainver value to 2.00.0000, so therefore it will not work at the moment for a stock, unrooted phone.
You would have to resort to unlocking the bootloader at HTCDEV.com, install a custom recovery and then root the ROM in order to use the downgrade and gain S-OFF.
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gialandra said:
I have used HTCDEV.com to unlock the bootloader, but how can I flash the recovery without root privileges? I have try unsucessfully with 4EXT Recovery Control
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Next step: I have used this post to flash the recovery and install the
su-3.0-efgh-signed.zip to gain the root access but S- remains ON
gialandra said:
I have used HTCDEV.com to unlock the bootloader, but how can I flash the recovery without root privileges? I have try unsucessfully with 4EXT Recovery Control
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To flash recovery from 4ext recovery control, you need s-off. You will have to do the manual way, by entering this command 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img'.
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gialandra said:
Next step: I have used this post to flash the recovery and install the
su-3.0-efgh-signed.zip to gain the root access but S- remains ON
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Root doesn't change s-on/off status.
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zukri90 said:
Root doesn't change s-on/off status.
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Really, this modding is like to exit from a maze ... have you suggestions?
gialandra said:
Really, this modding is like to exit from a maze ... have you suggestions?
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If you have HBOOT 2.02.0002 and you unlock using HTCDEV.com you will be able to:
1. Flash a custom recovery.
2. Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to:
A. Root your current ROM by installing SU-3.1.3.zip
B. Flash a custom, rooted ROM.
So I believe that should answer your questions. You may now exit the maze.
tpbklake said:
If you have HBOOT 2.02.0002 and you unlock using HTCDEV.com you will be able to:
1. Flash a custom recovery.
2. Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to:
A. Root your current ROM by installing SU-3.1.3.zip
B. Flash a custom, rooted ROM.
So I believe that should answer your questions. You may now exit the maze.
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Yes, I install the WE WANT ICS v4 ROM and now I have the root permission
At this point, what mean S-ON / S-OFF and what permits?
gialandra said:
Yes, I install the WE WANT ICS v4 ROM and now I have the root permission
At this point, what mean S-ON / S-OFF and what permits?
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S-ON/S-OFF is used to reference the Security flag setting in the phone. If you have Security Off, then you can flash almost everything to your phone, including a new radio.
With an unlocked bootloader like you have, you can flash some of the same items as S-OFF with the 2 biggest exceptions being:
1. You cannot flash a new radio.
2. The boot partition is not mounted as R/W when in Recovery mode, thus the reason you manually have to flash the boot.img while in FASTBOOT USB mode.
i'm revolutionary s-off. with hbot 6.13.1002. radio is 24m. i want to try the arhd 3. but it needs to be in blackrose. not sure if i can flash immediately blackrose to my unit with these infos. please help.... thanks!
fableevoke said:
i'm revolutionary s-off. with hbot 6.13.1002. radio is 24m. i want to try the arhd 3. but it needs to be in blackrose. not sure if i can flash immediately blackrose to my unit with these infos. please help.... thanks!
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Its been said by some users that blackrose isn't needed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28490846&postcount=5266
Or if you want to install blackrose,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28507018&postcount=5298
The reason behind using blackrose is because of some new partitions, which save space on the /system partition of the phone, in case you run out of space there (I didn't have this problem with the sense ICS roms I use on revolutionary hboot like yours)
If you can't install busybox or something in /system, you might need blackrose
Hope that helps
really? can you provide me the link please?
Links for what? There are links in my response, did you click on those?
markj338 said:
Its been said by some users that blackrose isn't needed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28490846&postcount=5266
Or if you want to install blackrose,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28507018&postcount=5298
The reason behind using blackrose is because of some new partitions, which save space on the /system partition of the phone, in case you run out of space there (I didn't have this problem with the sense ICS roms I use on revolutionary hboot like yours)
If you can't install busybox or something in /system, you might need blackrose
Hope that helps
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im using 235 stock rom. i was able to install busybox. do i still need the blackrose? or it must be installed to ics 4?
fableevoke said:
im using 235 stock rom. i was able to install busybox. do i still need the blackrose? or it must be installed to ics 4?
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Your call, I would say you dont need it, I would try install them rom with the hboot you have, and if it runs fine, you obviously dont have to upgrade
Can someone tell the definitive way to flash a rom on my phone? http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Should I unlock my phone via htcdev.com and flash custom ROM's? (what exactly is the difference between S-OFF and S-ON?)
OR
Should I follow this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
but the problem is that the Asian version has problems getting root access using alpharevx's method.
Can someone confirm if the Revolutionary method works on the Indian Incredible S?
Also what is a gold card?
Depends on your hboot version.
the link you posted gives you most of the information required.
s-off means security off and s-on is security on..
s-off gives you easier ability to flash roms and recoverys.
do a bit of reading around in the forum and you'll find almost all the answers you need
No offense but I read a lot but the only thing I'm confused about is the Indian version not being able to root as stated in the OP.
My hboot version is 2.00
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TheDareDevil said:
No offense but I read a lot but the only thing I'm confused about is the Indian version not being able to root as stated in the OP.
My hboot version is 2.00
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With HBOOT 2.00, you have 2 options.
Option 1 is to downgrade your mainver and then install a GB RUU that has HBOOT 1.13 and then you can use Revolutionary to gain true S-OFF. This is the best option IMO.
Option 2 is to unlock your bootloader using HTCDEV.com and admit to HTC that you are modding your phone. Once you are unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery that will allow you to flash custom, rooted ROMs.
If I use the second method, will I be able to flash all custom RIMs?
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TheDareDevil said:
If I use the second method, will I be able to flash all custom RIMs?
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Yes but every time you flash a ROM, you will manually have to extract the boot.img file from the ROM's zip file and then flash it in FASTBBOT USB mode using the command fastboot flash boot [boot.img]
That is why I prefer Option 1 and true S-OFF. You won't have to do that extra step each time.
If you decide to unlock your bootloader from HTC Dev then you must use the custom roms boot.img to install custom roms.
(From what i have read, please correct me if im wrong)
If you decide to S-OFF your device you do not need to obtain the boot.img if you want to flash that rom.
I decided to go the S-OFF route because not all the roms that are developed support S-ON.
If you have HBOOT 2.0 then you will need to (like tpbklake said)
downgrade your mainver and then install a GB RUU that has HBOOT 1.13 and then you can use Revolutionary to gain true S-OFF.
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I agreed this is my preferred option.