Since Nexus 7 will support otg, I wonder if there is any flash drive will directly mount on micro-USB port. I know Kingston have micro data traveler which is really small, but it only has regular USB and still need a adapter to connect, so if there is a flash drive with micro usb, then we can expand the memory of N7 easily without adding too much volume
wanghaojie630 said:
Since Nexus 7 will support otg, I wonder if there is any flash drive will directly mount on micro-USB port. I know Kingston have micro data traveler which is really small, but it only has regular USB and still need a adapter to connect, so if there is a flash drive with micro usb, then we can expand the memory of N7 easily without adding too much volume
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This is all you need! Its cheap, it works.
the answer is right now NO . There has been no flash drive or external storage that will plug directly into the micro usb port.. I am working on making one with a flat printed circuit cable.will post a thread with pics if am able to get it working should be not much thicker then the micro sd card. IF IF IF ..
Posted this i found in a similar thread:
www dot mobilefun dot co dot uk
/mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-p35462.htm
Its not exactly what you asked and is totally untested with the N7. I'v asked them to maybe test it, failing that i'll take a punt on buying one and let ya'll know how it worked out.
i had the same thought so i bought these two
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-M...Accessories&hash=item2a1ff4f02c#ht_500wt_1199
and
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruze...1342550864&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+cruzer+fit
sure its not a true plug in micro usb drive, but ill be able to plug it in and not have it hanging on a cable
erica_renee said:
the answer is right now NO . There has been no flash drive or external storage that will plug directly into the micro usb port.. I am working on making one with a flat printed circuit cable.will post a thread with pics if am able to get it working should be not much thicker then the micro sd card. IF IF IF ..
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Very nice that you're working on this issue. I read somewhere that Google had disabled the ability to mount a drive in the Jelly Beanie o.s.
Saildog said:
Very nice that you're working on this issue. I read somewhere that Google had disabled the ability to mount a drive in the Jelly Beanie o.s.
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its not disabled in JB its just disabled in the N7 specifically but root will take care of that
Unless the N7 is different to other android devices I've seen, the musb port doesn't provide any power, without which it can't read the external media. That's why a powered usb hub is used, in which case a micro usb drive is moot.
Ipads actually push a bit of power through their dock port which is cool, but of.course what u can do with it is limited.
It would be a cool mod to open up an android device and patch power into the musb port. Maybe i'll try next tine i have one open for some reason.
forexamplejohn said:
Unless the N7 is different to other android devices I've seen, the musb port doesn't provide any power, without which it can't read the external media. That's why a powered usb hub is used, in which case a micro usb drive is moot.
Ipads actually push a bit of power through their dock port which is cool, but of.course what u can do with it is limited.
It would be a cool mod to open up an android device and patch power into the musb port. Maybe i'll try next tine i have one open for some reason.
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So you mean simply using a OTG adapter wont work?
forexamplejohn said:
Unless the N7 is different to other android devices I've seen, the musb port doesn't provide any power, without which it can't read the external media. That's why a powered usb hub is used, in which case a micro usb drive is moot.
Ipads actually push a bit of power through their dock port which is cool, but of.course what u can do with it is limited.
It would be a cool mod to open up an android device and patch power into the musb port. Maybe i'll try next tine i have one open for some reason.
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This is incorrect
I do not need a powered usb hub on either my Nexus 7 or my Galaxy Nexus. This OTG cable works fine for both devices: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Also, you must be rooted and have stickmount: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
Power is supplied to the micro usb port since it works and also, the usb flash drive lights up
Well in this case I am extremely happy to be incorrect then.
I've got a CM9 hp touchpad and a rooted ics razr maxx that i use otg with, but they only work with powered hubs.
While on the what works topic- mhl hdmi adapter?
cronikslacker said:
This is incorrect
I do not need a powered usb hub on either my Nexus 7 or my Galaxy Nexus. This OTG cable works fine for both devices:
Also, you must be rooted and have stickmount:
Power is supplied to the micro usb port since it works and also, the usb flash drive lights up
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Works fine on rooted N7
I rooted my Google I/O devices the day after the conference. Just on a whim, I plugged in my usb micro A to usb A port and plugged in a thumb drive. While it is true that the device will not automount the storage partitions, is certainly shows up in /dev/block/sda (device) and /dev/block/sda1 (first partition). I could run the mount command, "mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive" and it mounted just fine. Nothing to it really, I suppose it'd be easy to add something similar to this:
# USB storage device
dev_mount usbdisk /mnt/usbdisk auto /devices/platform/s3c_otghcd/usb
In the /etc/vold.fstab and make it automount.
That might not be the exact line but I guarantee the port supplies power and has the USB mass storage driver working just fine.
Just ordered this....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297265?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Oddly this a quarter of the price anybody else is selling these for.
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LonPete67 said:
Just ordered this....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297265?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Oddly this a quarter of the price anybody else is selling these for.
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That's the closest thing I've been able to find but its still quite bulky. I would be afraid of tweaking it and breaking the drive or worse the port itself. Hopefully we will see something like this soon with a micro-b end.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-32GB-Flash-Drive/dp/B00812F7O8/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0
It would be great to see one with a triangle shaped housing to reduce the chance of snagging it on something. I could use one for my GNex as well. It would be a perfect solution for nexus owners... or Google could just put a microSD slot on their nexus devices... until then hopefully someone will decide to cash in on (IMO) the only flaw with nexus devices.
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LonPete67 said:
Just ordered this....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297265?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Oddly this a quarter of the price anybody else is selling these for.
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Close but I think what we are all looking for is something more like this: http://imgur.com/B8fBq
doctor3d said:
Close but I think what we are all looking for is something more like this: http://imgur.com/B8fBq
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Man that would be perfect. I've looked all over for that if some one finds a link to buy post it here.
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J-Force dual usb flash drive
doctor3d said:
Close but I think what we are all looking for is something more like this:
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Would be awesome if it somehow spread out closer to the tablet for support, to avoid breaking the port.
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bizarre that such an item is not on the market, simply idea, simple to make, they should be all over the place
Is this what you're looking for?
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SanDisk Class 10 MicroUSB Flash Drive 128GB OTG
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I'm interested in replacing a double din headunit with the galaxy.
Can you post pictures/tips/comments on how you have accomplished this?
Ideally I'd like something that could pass tech inspection for autocross (a type of autoracing).
I did see this and thought it was pretty interesting:
...ugh I have a couple of youtube links, but can't post them until I get my post count up.
I was also interested in doing this. I would imagine if you could mount it so that it was recessed/clamped in, that it would pass tech inspection. Though you would prolly have to go through the official rule book for your class and see what exactly they are looking for.
I was thinking about doing something for my 2011 WRX as well. Although I know it's an iPad, here is something I thought was badazz...
i also want to know about it,it looks so cool in some of the youtube videos
Ah, now this thread I like!
I've been thinking about a lot of things to implement my SGT into my car. The only first problem I ran into was.. do I want this thing forever in this car?
Back then I only had it for a wintersports vacation. To navigate and watch movies.
My most wanted version is/was to build it into a lexputer (I own a Lexus IS200).
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/lexputer1.jpg
BTW: I'm still looking for this!
But since I couldn't find it AND I didn't really know if I was gonna keep this tablet I decided to build a rack in my own simple way.
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/17516817242650946981310.jpg
(don't laugh) ;-)
I adjusted my amp and receiver of my car for now with a fm-modulator (not the best sound quality). Since I cannot find the right cables to connect it directly (i.e. a interface adapter).
I tried to build my own, but I'm still in search for the right connector.
So this is my result.
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/17307717401206264459110.jpg
I attached a Brodit holder to my own construction. Et voila.
So my to list:
Get a Lexputer
Get the right interface adapter from SGT to Lexus IS200 stereo
Get a keyboard
Build it all nicely into my dashboard
to mod: soz to adjust my external links. Haven't made to eight replies yet. But I am legit
don't forget to add something like this to the setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-h_J7RDXdw
Here is a great setup that takes advantage of the Tab's "double DIN" size, I'd like my tab to be removable tho( or just buy another....)
The biggest pain it that there is (currently) no connector for the tab that does audio and power(is there?) Maybe hack together a charge cable and component-out cable?
My setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akJAqJL2aPg
If you mount it in the dash where the double din is located, you won't be able to use the camera to record your runs. With the car app I'm using, via the GPS it displays speed, elevation, etc during playback, so it'll help you fine tune your sessions.
Use dailyroads, it's a free app. This is what the screen looks like while filming and playing back:
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You'll need one or two of these, as well.
That way you can adjust the volume without having to do it on the Tab, and with a lot more precision. It gets to be a pain in the a$$, believe me, having to reach for the volume control buttons on the Tab. I have 2, one for the sub amp and 1 for the 4 channel, mounted right under my arm rest and they are easily accessible.
The rearview mirror isn't really functional in my vehicle, so I pulled down. That's the add'l piece stuck to the windshield. I'm going to integrate the Tab mount's base to utilize the rearview mirror mount, so that I can pull it if I decide to sell the truck and want to return it to stock.
A keyboard really isn't necessary, IMHO. But I guess it depends on where you mount it. Swype works fine for what you need, and voice command does, as well.
You might also want to pick up one of these:
I hate having cords and crap all over the place, so I have this installed instead so I can power the Tab, my cell, and 1 add'l 12v device w/out having something coming out of the cigarette lighter.
grt work
lictor4 said:
The biggest pain it that there is (currently) no connector for the tab that does audio and power(is there?) Maybe hack together a charge cable and component-out cable?
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Forgot that the hdmi dock has headphone jack and power port
Here is a post I made awhile ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049496
Still works perfectly well today.
lictor4 said:
Forgot that the hdmi dock has headphone jack and power port
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I got my hands on one of those last week, and after looking at it, you'd be hard-pressed to try and keep that SGT docked in that thing in a vehicle. I think you could make a car mount out of it, though, and it would be successful.
Another thing I can relate using the OEM car dock....the mount has a spring in it that bounces a bit too much. As I revert to making a more permanent mount, the spring will be eliminated from the equation.
One of my main concerns in figuring how to mount it was to make sure that I could successfully utilize the camera. I want to be able to capture video of all the nimrods in traffic with me that don't know how to drive, so the mount location works perfectly. At some point, I'd like to get around to fabbing up an enclosure that will allow me to slide the tab in and out of like this setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHVm6WptQvg
but I want it to be a reversible setup so that I by simply replacing the OEM center console/bezel with another, I can revert back to stock w/minimal work.
I see a lot of people mounting iPads in their vehicles, but IMHO, it's a bit LARGE for the front of the car. I think the SGT is the perfect size for what we're trying to accomplish.
nice work!!!!
lictor4 said:
The biggest pain it that there is (currently) no connector for the tab that does audio and power(is there?) Maybe hack together a charge cable and component-out cable?
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Here's the solution, finally a video/audio cable that also charges!
is it possible to connect a reversing camera to the tab?
Ya, mount the back-up cam screen under the dash in front of the Tab's camera ;-)
With the dock is it possible to seperate the hdmi out to rca to split the sound to an amp and the yellow to headrest monitors?
NEVERMIND IT DOESN'T WORK!
I found the hdmi to rca with hdmi cable at amazon.com. I figure with this the tab gets charged and you get the opportunity to run a screen. Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002ZUI68G/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/184-0850434-9022311
Oh by the way I found an mini amp with a remote that controls everything fade, bass, fm, treble, and volume. They are super cheap like 40 bucks.
Here's the link where you can see the setup:
http://www.mp3car.com/worklogs/147525-2009-altima-dash-mount-android-tablet-pc.html
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As posted above, this is the cable you need
Lictor4 did you buy this cable? Some people say it has problems like the video not working, that will be a problem if one wanted to connect another screen.
Edit: Ok just read your first here.. So it does works with Gingerbread. Hmm just need to wait for verizon to give us Gingerbread.
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jraygoza said:
Lictor4 did you buy this cable? Some people say it has problems like the video not working, that will be a problem if one wanted to connect another screen.
Edit: Ok just read your first here.. So it does works with Gingerbread. Hmm just need to wait for verizon to give us Gingerbread.
Sent from my verizon tab
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I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, I'm running the latest overcome ROM (at&t tab on Rogers network Canada) so we'll see how it goes. So far I think it's just one guy who's had trouble with this cable.
Let us know if it works.
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Even if you guys opted for the 8gb I think usb otg is native on ics and I'm pretty sure it's the same on JB. Or am I wrong ?
It is native since Honeycomb, the issue (I believe) is knowing if enough power is going to the micro usb to power a flash drive. Err...right guys?
Correct in that the power needs to be at the port to support it, but also code that enables read write and file management paths for apps and the device to see on the N7.
Seems based on the manual and the cloud intent of the device, it might not be supported by design.
What about powering sd cards via the otg, does it require 5v as well or can you get away with 3.3v?
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Anandtech updates..
Anandtech's mini-review was updated regarding OTG support, though the quote is extremely vague:
"Update: I've had many emails and questions about whether USB-OTG (On The Go) is supported on the Nexus 7, and didn't touch on it when I originally hit publish becuause I wasn't entirely sure. I've now confirmed that USB-OTG is supported on the Nexus 7, and works on the current Android 4.1 non-final build that has been sampled. That's encouraging, and I'll test it myself when I get home and to my miniUSB OTG adapter."
I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer before we know the extent of OTG support - why he couldn't have said WHAT device(s) he tested is beyond me. Either way, I wouldn't hold my breath as Google has had a long standing interest in pushing us towards the cloud.
According to the guide book on Play, it supports OTG for input devices...no mention of storage. Still, it may work without mods, but even if not I'm sure it will be done relatively quickly.
The main thing is, the guide does confirm that you can use devices without power, and recommends using a powered hub for plugging in multiple devices, to "avoid draining your device's battery." So...even if you can't plug in a flash drive out of the box, this will probably be a software solution, instead of a hardware one.
Just waiting for some kind of confirmation for MHL now...
People seem to have taken the Anandtech post to heart, but the manual already lists USB input support. My guess is with the small battery, the power probably only supports 3.3V so will not be reliable for portable storage.
Not long to find out
There's thousands of nexuses floating around out there, just waiting to be tested...I really hope it does. Movies on flash drives ftw.
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rushless said:
People seem to have taken the Anandtech post to heart, but the manual already lists USB input support. My guess is with the small battery, the power probably only supports 3.3V so will not be reliable for portable storage.
Not long to find out
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For starters... see this thread.
I realize that 3.3v isn't going to power an external HDD (or even an SSD, I guess), but my question is is 3.3v enough power to read from a full size SD card like this:
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in a USB reader plugged into a cable consisting of a Micro USB male at one end and a Type-A female at the other end like this:
See the other linked thread if these references make no sense.
SD cards are cheap (even fast Class 10 and faster UHS-1 SD Cards). I just don't know if all of them can be read at 3.3v?
Whatever the Galaxy Nexus is at, it can run USB drives up to 32GB (highest i've tested) but it can't run any form of hard drive.
neok44 said:
Whatever the Galaxy Nexus is at, it can run USB drives up to 32GB (highest i've tested)....
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You mean USB flash/thumb/jump drives like this, right?
neok44 said:
...but it can't run any form of hard drive.
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I wonder if it could run an SSD external? Hmm.... <scratches head>
SoonerLater said:
SD cards are cheap (even fast Class 10 and faster UHS-1 SD Cards). I just don't know if all of them can be read at 3.3v?
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Nothing (or close to nothing) will work on 3.3V directly since USB devices expect 5V. You'd need a powered hub on the way.
See the KF OTG thread to see the challenge of making it work.
There's also the question of current available, not just voltage. SD cards are actually power hungry compared to input devices, if there's not enough current available from the port they either won't work at all or won't work properly.
SoonerLater said:
You mean USB flash/thumb/jump drives like this, right?
I wonder if it could run an SSD external? Hmm.... <scratches head>
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yes like that. i've tested up to 32GB flash drives, as well as a usb-microsd reader up to 16GB.
if i had an SSD i'd test. My Asus Transformer can run my 1TB hard drive though.
gkpm said:
Nothing (or close to nothing) will work on 3.3V directly since USB devices expect 5V. You'd need a powered hub on the way.
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OK, but see...
All SD card families initially use a 3.3-volt electrical interface. On command, SDHC and SDXC cards switch to 1.8-volt operation
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Source: Wikipedia. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that a USB reader/writer doesn't require 5v, but at least the card doesn't. Many of the readers are so tiny, I can't imagine a voltage transformer circuit being in one, but if they're getting 5v and stepping it down to 3.3v or 1.8v, it could only be done with a transformer -- unless an SD card can tolerate working at 5v even though it only needs 3.3v or 1.8v. Hmmm.... The mystery deepens.
gkpm said:
There's also the question of current available, not just voltage. SD cards are actually power hungry compared to input devices, if there's not enough current available from the port they either won't work at all or won't work properly.
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I understand your point about current, but can't find anything (yet) which specifies how many watts or amps a typical SD card reader/writer needs.
We should see an update at Anandtech this weekend and know the scoop.
If it works, I will get a 16gb and retire my View.
Via Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review) :
Update 2: I've asked for further clarification about what USB-OTG functionality is supported. Using a mouse and keyboard will be supported, and I saw Google using an ethernet to USB adapter over USB-OTG as well. Unfortunately I found out that mounting USB storage will not be supported natively. In addition MHL is not supported.
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Until the USB host thing is overcome, there are some alternatives to access external storage, including:
1. Use Wifi Explorer app on the Nexus to push/pull files between it and a computer on the same Wifi environment.
2. Get a Seagate Satellite. It's a battery-powered 500gb USB 3.0 hard drive with its own on-board Linux server and Wifi hotspot. Mine lasts about 6 hours on battery with three kids using it to stream three different movies at the same time. New ones are going for about $140 on ebay now; about $160 on Amazon.
ap3604 said:
Via Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review) :
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Not natively....but rooted with the Stickmount app? Could possibly still work.
Nospin said:
Not natively....but rooted with the Stickmount app? Could possibly still work.
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Yeah, they need to test stickmount. USBOTG doesn't natively on the galaxy nexus either, if I am remembering correctly. The app makes it simple enough.
There is already a thread discussing USB-OTG, please continue all further discussion there.
After reading some experiences on my other thread about how some USB devices work perfectly, and some only allow you to see and copy your material I am starting this thread so that people that need to buy external storage but are afraid it may not work.
So some people that already have the Nexus7 have been able to have Full USB support. Some have not been so lucky.
Here is how to have full usb support:
Step 1) Root your Nexus
Step 2) Download and set up the app Stickmount
Step 3) buy a usb drive and a USB-OTG cable (plenty of threads on where to buy
Step 4) Post your results in this thread using the forum below.
Nexus7 16GB or 8GB
USB device: (Manufacturer, model, size, etc. Whether it is USBdrive, Harddrive, or sdcard)
USB-OTG cord: (Brand, purchased from, relevant thread)
Could you see the files in the Nexus7 native file explorer?: Yes or No
Could you see them with any other explorer? Yes or no
If yes which one: (App name)
Do the files open normally from the explorer? (Can you click on a song and have it open automatically in your default music player? How about pics? Movies? apks?): Yes or no
If no: What happened? Was there an error? Did you find a workaround?
This should help us buy the right brands so we don't waste our money.
NOTE TO THE MODS:
This is not a thread requesting deals, or a thread discussing how to host USB
This thread is just for the effectiveness of each device.
This thread should ONLY have posts with the above format and replies that are designed to help fix any problems with that device.
If you want to discuss anything about the Nexus7's ability to host, or about it's host development, etc please post in this general thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736825
Please only post in this thread if you have a review of your experiences, or if you have a method to fix someone's problematic experiences (though that could be handled through PM and then the OP of that review could update their post.
Let's keep this as a neat organized reference. If you want to thank anyone in this thread, just hit the thanks button, no need to post.
I have 16 gig nexus 7
I can play videos browse files etc using File Manager HD ( free in market)
cable is just cheap generic Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable from Amazon £2.99 that I had brought for my Galaxy Note
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aftermarket-Product-T-Flash-GT-i9100-GT-N7000/dp/B005FUNQXS/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=ADSCLDKL0FHCQ
Card is a sandisk 16gb micro sd card inserted in the supplied sandisk reader, card is formatted fat32
update
Just checked
pictures & video open fine with default app or giving choice of app by just clicking on them
Updated.
Nexus7 16GB
USB device: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MXON98/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
USB-OTG cord: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Could you see the files in the Nexus7 native file explorer?: no native explorer
Could you see them with any other explorer? Yes
If yes which one: Es file explorer
Do the files open normally from the explorer? (Can you click on a song and have it open automatically in your default music player? How about pics? Movies? apks?): Yes but most video files only worked on vplayer. Tried MX player but it would only open mkv, and wouldn't give me sound. But the picture quality seemed better.
Everything works perfectly
Off to test out controllers
Nexus7 8GB I/O
USB device: 16gb sandisc class 2 microSD card (FAT32) inside sandisk sd card reader
USB-OTG cord: generic from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0081CRXGI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Could you see the files in the Nexus7 native file explorer?: unaware there is a native file explorer
Could you see them with any other explorer? Yes
If yes which one: Root Explorer
Do the files open normally from the explorer? Yes (tried video and audio so far)
adiliyo said:
Could you see the files in the Nexus7 native file explorer?: unaware there is a native file explorer
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Looks like JB doesn't have one, come to think of it has any version ?
flub said:
Looks like JB doesn't have one, come to think of it has any version ?
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Sorry never owned a nexus
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just checking, did the posters above use the otg cable without rooting and it worked?
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just checking, did the posters above use the otg cable without rooting and it worked?
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Refer to step 1 in the OP
Now there needs to be a case made that allows for the USB drive to be tucked away so we don't need to worry about it.
cg.voabc said:
Now there needs to be a case made that allows for the USB drive to be tucked away so we don't need to worry about it.
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This is true, but this is not the thread to discuss that, as stated in the IO, please keep all posts related to the review of USB-OTG setups.
flub said:
I have 16 gig nexus 7
I can play videos browse files etc using File Manager HD ( free in market)
cable is just cheap generic Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable from Amazon £2.99 that I had brought for my Galaxy Note
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aftermarket-Product-T-Flash-GT-i9100-GT-N7000/dp/B005FUNQXS/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=ADSCLDKL0FHCQ
Card is a sandisk 16gb micro sd card inserted in the supplied sandisk reader, card is formatted fat32
update
Just checked
pictures & video open fine with default app or giving choice of app by just clicking on them
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Do we need to use a specific kernel? Also under file manager, what label is it under? I cant seem to find anything
Just tested my setup with a WD passport and it doesn't look like it has enough power to spin the drive up, but personally I don't really want to carry a hard drive around, uSD and flash drives are okay with me
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Do we need to use a specific kernel? Also under file manager, what label is it under? I cant seem to find anything
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1) no, just root
2) read op. Also read description for stickmount.
3) READ OP this thread is for review, questions go in the other thread.
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Anyone order this one?
dx.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774?item=1
I just bought this one but haven't tested yet(I still don't have my N7). Anyone know if this would work? I am considering cancelling my order from dx.com and purchasing another adapter that is confirmed works.
Censura_Umbra said:
1) no, just root
2) read op. Also read description for stickmount.
3) READ OP this thread is for review, questions go in the other thread.
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So if someone says "yeah I got it to work" I should open up the other thread and ask that person that posted his results on this thread how he got it to work since im having trouble? OMG yeah that makes sense. why didn't i think of that. unbelievable.
Edit time: I got it working, set up is as follows:
Nexus 7 8gb
Generic USB OTG cable from ebay $2.50 (US Seller) I believe Amazon has them for cheaper
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20078495618...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_981wt_1037
Kingston 16gb micro Flash $10
http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-datatraveler-micro-16gb-usb-2-0-flash-drive-blue/227277954.html
and downloaded Stickmount. Once it worked I could open the files with Astro. Made a shortcut/widget to that folder, once plugged in, just click and browse. Makes it much easier.
Only thing is that cable ships from hong Kong. Its going to take weeks to get to you. Anyone know of a retailer that sales them?
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DONNY TRUMP said:
So if someone says "yeah I got it to work" I should open up the other thread and ask that person that posted his results on this thread how he got it to work since im having trouble? OMG yeah that makes sense. why didn't i think of that. unbelievable.
Edit time: I got it working, set up is as follows:
Nexus 7 8gb
Generic USB OTG cable from ebay $2.50 (US Seller) I believe Amazon has them for cheaper
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20078495618...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_981wt_1037
Kingston 16gb micro Flash $10
http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-datatraveler-micro-16gb-usb-2-0-flash-drive-blue/227277954.html
and downloaded Stickmount. Once it worked I could open the files with Astro. Made a shortcut/widget to that folder, once plugged in, just click and browse. Makes it much easier.
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No, you can pm them. Only reason is so that the mods don't close this thread for being too similar to the other thread.
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feelinfroggy23 said:
Only thing is that cable ships from hong Kong. Its going to take weeks to get to you. Anyone know of a retailer that sales them?
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huh? What cable? I just gave you an ebay link that ships from Brooklyn, NY. I ordered it go to me in 2 days. Ebay has a bunch of US sellers selling these cables all of which ship from the US, but keep an eye on the "should reach to you by this date" thing. I noticed some said 11-20 business days while others said a couple days from the order date. Only thing that sucks is that US sellers are usually at least 2x the price of hong kongers which in this case means $3 instead of $1.50 lol
I may try this one. How can they ship a 95 cent item free from Hong Kong? I like this one because it looks real small (would just keep it attached to the flash drive).
Okay, so I had a cable from a LONG LONG time ago and I know I got it on amazon but I don't remember where. What I'm posting for is I just formatted a micro SD Card to NTFS and loaded a movie on it and it plays AMAZING from the USB. I used stickmount after root, obviously, but I'm most impressed with flash NTFS support!! Looking now for a 128 GB USB stick if anyone has one to recommend.
What if you could add more storage to any Android device with a tiny adapter?
A MicroSD to Micro USB adapter. This indiegogo project aims to receive funding for the creation of a tiny adapter -- the worlds first of it's kind so you no longer have to worry about running out of space for your favourite videos, music or photos. All we need is your support to help fund the creation of this adapter.
http://www.indiegogo.com/microsdtomicrousb
The adapter is so small it can happily sit with your keys as a keyring; store the whole of your favourite TV series, music collection and more in the palm of your hands.
Support the project and be the first to receive the adapter. If the project doesn't get funded, your receive a full refund, nothing to lose.
Lot of discussion at the Nexus 7 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764017
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Just a random thought - they should make it bendable, so the card could be behind the tabet and only a small portion would be below the frame.
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Just a random thought - they should make it bendable, so the card could be behind the tabet and only a small portion would be below the frame.
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Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
Contributed for $16.
This looks like it will be really great! Good luck!
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Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
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Call me crazy, but wouldn't one be able to do that with wired extension leads? I don't know a whole lot but it seems fairly simple to this 16 year old.
Will this work? I know it's not micro sd though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0051D3KMG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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Great Idea, I just sent you guys another $32 plus $10 for shipping. I hope you get enough support to complete this project.
cderrick14 said:
Great Idea, I just sent you guys another $32 plus $10 for shipping. I hope you get enough support to complete this project.
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Thank you for the support, We are having a really unexpected positive feedback about the project, specially internationally. We are on the right track, we just need some more support and spread out the word as much as we can. :good:
Lumsdoni said:
Will this work? I know it's not micro sd though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0051D3KMG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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No, it won't. It isn't for micro usb port. It works only with Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Maturola said:
Thank you for the support, We are having a really unexpected positive feedback about the project, specially internationally. We are on the right track, we just need some more support and spread out the word as much as we can. :good:
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Yes, spread the word folks. I've tweeted, facebooked and google+'d the crap outta this and will continue to do so. I'm surprised you are only at the amount you are. It seems to me that this would be more popular.
Well I'll keep plugging this until every Android user i have contact with sees it.
groaner said:
Yes, spread the word folks. I've tweeted, facebooked and google+'d the crap outta this and will continue to do so. I'm surprised you are only at the amount you are. It seems to me that this would be more popular.
Well I'll keep plugging this until every Android user i have contact with sees it.
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Thanks, make sure to use your "custom" link to share, we are tracking referral, and if we are funded, the person with more referral will get a Nexus 7 32GB (More details at the website if interested).
We have a very large amount of visitors, many are interested but are holding up. Maybe to see if the project is going to get closer to its goal, or maybe they just want to wait for a more complete, retail ready from. I hope they realized that without the initial push we can't get there. All i can do is support, answer questions and spread the word as much as I can.
We have the Nexus 10 on order already, so we will be testing as soon as we get it. We are also prototyping a Build in storage option (A.K.A Micro USB Flash drive). :good:
So I already planned to do this with a microsd card adapter and an OTG cable for about half the price. That way I can connect a few devices at once too... Any reason I should spring for this instead?
manaox2 said:
So I already planned to do this with a microsd card adapter and an OTG cable for about half the price. That way I can connect a few devices at once too... Any reason I should spring for this instead?
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Hey Manaox,
Functional they are the same, depending on the quality of the OTG cable, speed should be the same (there are some cases reported that some really inexpensive OTG cables degrade the speed a bit), if you don't mind the size and having the "cable" hanging around, that is a perfect way to do it. that;s exactly what I did before I decide to design a better solution.
Personally, I hate that "tail" on my device, I rather have something smaller, that I can maybe have on my keyring or in a pocket on my case and i can easily plug and play. But there is nothing wrong with the OTG cable + MicroSD-USB adapter (or Flash drive).
chrishin said:
No, it won't. It isn't for micro usb port. It works only with Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Shouldn't have tried to see that on my phone, thought it was micro usb.
Maturola said:
Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
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What you really need to work on, besides keeping the size down, is some sort of clamp mechanism, as a strain-relief for the actual USB port (especially the pathetic shallow and sloppy port on the N7). Without that strain relief, expect to see a LOT of complaints about breaking the USB port.
Might also want to consider an "L" shape that runs along the edge rather than straight out. It'll be a bit trickier to manufacture but would make it far less prone to "snapping off" and it'll be less clunky looking if it doesn't protrude out as far.
Finally, if you're making it device specific for the N7, a ribbon cable (or hard cable) that does a 180 to the back would be ideal. The actual reader portion could mount in the middle of the speaker/Asus logo area. A few was to make this mounting work, from velcro to double-sided tape to semi-permanent plates mounted to the back with a clip or magnet, etc.
Actually, the more I think about it, a rigid cable sheath in the shape of a "C" would be ideal, if it was a tight fit (almost a clip) to the chassis. A lot of the torque that would be applied to the USB port would be absorbed/prevented by the reader portion resting snugly on the back.
Croak said:
What you really need to work on, besides keeping the size down,
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There is a lot that need to be worked if you want a quality product. Durability, packaging, signal integrity manufacturability.. many more
Croak said:
Finally, if you're making it device specific for the N7...
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We don;t want to make a Nexus 7 specific, we want to make it so it will work with as many android devices as possible, with or without a case (which doesn't allow to make flush to the edge)
I made myself one, much cheaper and easier, cost me about £3 total and 10 minutes to solder up.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33978463
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alias_neo said:
I made myself one, much cheaper and easier, cost me about £3 total and 10 minutes to solder up.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33978463
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Sweet! Looks easy!
great idea but here is something that will probably work fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1MR0ES0806
for $10 its worth a test
Leoisright said:
great idea but here is something that will probably work fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1MR0ES0806
for $10 its worth a test
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That will not fit on your Nexus 10, that is NOT a micro USB device...
EDIT: I stand corrected, I can see the MicroUSB on the side, besides the size, it should do the job. for that size of device I would much rather use a OTG cable, but it comes down to preferences
What i want is a keyboard dock like the transformers. The problem is our little tablet inst big enough for a comfortable keyboard. So one of you wonderful manufacturer's need to make this happen. Expand the keyboard size to a decent comfortable level and add external speakers to the sides of the slot that the nexus 7 slides into. That way the keyboard can be much bigger without looking silly.
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Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
This would be so cool! If someone could mod a laptop keyboard to fit a N7 I'd buy it.
Search eBay or Amazon man, they're full of keyboard cases from faux leather ones to full up metal ones.
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Those are nothing like what i described. Not even close.
It's a full keyboard via micro usb or bluetooh that you can slide/click it into (since you really can't truly 'dock' it into anything since the plug is on the bottom and would have to be in portrait orientation to be truly docked), so it's realistically the closest you can get for the time being. Just trying to help out and give alternatives man.
Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
I think the best thing to do would be to wait for i/o in May and see what the new N7 will be like (Is it gonna have pogo pins too) and then from there someone can make a kickstarter for this. I for one would be interested in getting one if it was availible.
I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
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His post is more useful than this worthless thread.... He was trying to help.
whiteguypl said:
I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Kickstarter is the biggest scam. No rules or regulations, no guarantee.
I hope this doesn't ever get built.... Want something like the transformer dock keyboard.... Go get a transformer.
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I don't see what the problem is with using a case/Bluetooth connection and some sort of NFC tag maybe.
The keyboard cases are actually pretty awesome. There is an awesome clamshell keyboard case that matches the N7's completely... so when closed it looks like to N7s screen to screen.
I don't think the pogo allows this kind of connection to use with a keyboard. It provides power and the other is just to tell the N7 it is docked. Most pogo docks basically just enable Bluetooth when docked and stream music/connect that way.
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I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
whiteguypl said:
I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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And a keyboard thats not possible to be made has no business in being in this forum. Like it was stated before... Want a transformer dock... Go buy a transformer
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Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
Keyboard dock like this would be pretty cool; it would finally allow me to only use my N7 for school instead of it and my iPad
On a side note, there's always some asshole(s) that come into every thread, best to just ignore them.
whiteguypl said:
Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
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It's not possible... Find out what the pogo pins can do... Try again.
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Accept it is. And you don't know what your talking about.
I've heard that rubbing a dryer sheet over woollen fabric can help stem static cling.
While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
ldrn said:
While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
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Power and sound is exactly how I imagined it. I didn't know if the keyboard could be connected any way other than Bluetooth. But power and sound can for use the pogo pins.