Hi...
There are so many Anti theft applications on the Android market.
Each seem to have some pros and cons.
Ultimately it all boils down to choosing the best of the lot.
Which one would you recommend ?.
I am told that in most cases the safeguards or protection
offered by these apps can be bypassed or neutralized
by hard resetting the phone or formatting it.
Appreciate your comments.
Thanks
Avast anti theft.... It's free and supports root installation (hard reset surviving)
I got Cerberus. Has some nice features I really like - and I always use the alarm when I can't remember where I last layed it down to find it
Am using the full version of F–Secure because it came with the phone. Have only tested it but no complaints.
I think the abti–theft part is free from the Play Store.
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I use cerberus, flashed trough Rom Manager. Lots of nice functions.
you can hide it from the applist and the flashed version can withstand a factory reset, sd formatting, not only a full wipe if I'm not mistaken.
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markop90 said:
Avast anti theft.... It's free and supports root installation (hard reset surviving)
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But the big question is - Can the safeguards or security features be bypassed or neutralized
by the persons who steal the phone ?. Eg: hard reset, format the phone etc.
It has hard reset surviving but no anti-theft software can survive against a rom change
Inviato dal mio Optimus 2X
Cerberus all the way for me. Low memory footprint, can do a lot of stuff remotely, and got it for free when they had a promo. But I would've bought it nevertheless.
the best way is to keep your phone from getting stolen. a witty guy will know how to wipe everything from the phone scotch free, so i dont see much use for security apps
androidlost
its not so beatiful, but you can do amazing things with this app, and its free.
http://www.androidlost.com/
Dead_Rabbit said:
androidlost
its not so beatiful, but you can do amazing things with this app, and its free.
http://www.androidlost.com/
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I did a read of the website with forums FAQ and all.
Lots of success stories.
But there is no mention anywhere about the weak points.
Such as how total is the protection offered by the App.
Smartphone thieves are very technical. They know most of the techniques to disable security stuff..
Unless the person who stole it or found it just a naive user himself.
I am also using Cerberus. Its got a lot of useful features such as SIM Checker & the option to wipe internal memory & sd card just in-case. They even offer a week free trial, just give it a try and if you like you can buy. Cerberus anti theft
Dead_Rabbit said:
androidlost
its not so beatiful, but you can do amazing things with this app, and its free.
http://www.androidlost.com/
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I use it too, but dont know if its full wipe protected. Never asked me for root access.
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I use it too, but dont know if its full wipe protected. Never asked me for root access.
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Actually avast does everything that Cerberus does, except for controlling via website, and it's free! It hides itself and also uses a costume name so anyone who doesn't know can't find it in the applist. Wich is really good. And If you decide to uninstall the antivirus part of the app you only reach the ui of the anti-theft by dialing a pin that you have chosen. (yes its seperated into 2 apps) It also survives wipe and and Cyanogenmod ROM flashes!
Also got some other features like firewall.
Cerberus>all
I use prey http://preyproject.com
Had my macbook stolen and managed to lock it down, wipe any sensitive info and track it / get pictures of the thief. Got it back and the theif got prosecuted. Can't ask for better than that!
After reading this thread I have gone for Cerberus.
I like this - "If you have rooted your device you can integrate Cerberus into your ROM and get two additional features: complete uninstall protection (Cerberus will even survive a wipe/factory reset) and GPS auto-enabling even on Android 2.3.3 and later"
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Hey Everyone .
Just found this App and was wondering if anyone has tried it ?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...ion-weve-seen-to-date-really-hands-on-review/
Looks pretty good actually . just dont want to be the first DHD user to try and brick the phone haha
Fine I'll do it then.
Edit: Didn't brick my phone
Childs play to remove too. Just another worthless security app.
dr.m0x said:
Fine I'll do it then.
Edit: Didn't brick my phone
Childs play to remove too. Just another worthless security app.
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Hahaha cheers
So not even worth installing ?
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Hahaha cheers
So not even worth installing ?
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Well your average thief might just scratch their head and give up on the phone but if they know someone who knows about android, such as one of many of the forum members here, they still get your phone. All they have to do is flash it back to stock.
The only thing these type of apps are good for, imo, is protecting your personal data. Even then there is no protection for the data on the sd card.
Desire HD has built in anti theft service. Just go to htcsense.com and register. It is really complicated to remove this from phone
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Have you ever tried htcsense.com? the locate system hardly works and the site is often down. Theft Aware works clean.
hint: to uninstall it, you first need to remove the device admin setting of theft aware in your phone settings. then it's just like any other app to uninstall
than33 said:
Desire HD has built in anti theft service. Just go to htcsense.com and register. It is really complicated to remove this from phone
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For everyone who knows a bit about the phone it would be child's play to remove the protection.
but if you can password protect the bootloader/recovery it is safe...
Anyway the mainstream user doesn't know about theft aware.
Most of the "thiefs" or lucky ones would do a hard reset.
And if you have a rooted phone, theft aware ist still on the phone.
And maybe they put another sim card in the phone and you got the phone number.
10 bucks is ok for a chance to get my 500 bucks mobile phone back.
Did u guys try that one?
http://www.eset.pl/Pobierz/Wersje_BETA/ESET_Mobile_Security_for_Android
There is LINK (Pobierz) or QR code at the bottom of that site OFFICIAL BETA.
Krzysiec said:
Did u guys try that one?
http://www.eset.pl/Pobierz/Wersje_BETA/ESET_Mobile_Security_for_Android
There is LINK (Pobierz) or QR code at the bottom of that site OFFICIAL BETA.
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thanks
will try and report
Well i have been using theft aware for several months now and i think it's great.
I have it integrated in the rom. Every backup on my phone has it.
A normal thief would only reset the phone and then it stays on.
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Sounds good. Maybe i give it a try. How long does the trial work ? And what are the differences to the pro version ?
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the trial is fully functional and works for 7 days.
since I rooted my phone 2 weeks ago I had to wipe it and could test the hard reset proof feature afterwards. it IS impressive.
on rooted phones you can block the adb access since the latest version.
Yesterday we started a global -70% price promotion for "Theft Aware" http://www.theftaware.com
Great tool for a great price
review:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...ion-weve-seen-to-date-really-hands-on-review/
This is really Good. I bought it and it works like a charm. I got Theft Aware, Smi Card Checker, Cerberus all together for added protection. I feel it is worth it when you spend so much for a Phone. Spending a mere 3% of the cost of your phone for these is definitely worth it.
dr.m0x said:
Fine I'll do it then.
Edit: Didn't brick my phone
Childs play to remove too. Just another worthless security app.
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I do not know why people answer post without any knowledge. Child play to remove it?
If you lock phone setting – the app cannot be installed
If the phone is root – hard reset does not remove the app, USB debug is unable, etc..
Of course, if you hack the password code, are able to unroot the phone, flash a stock rom, etc... you will remove this app. Childish stuff
I do not have any connection with this app, I am just considering purchasing a security app and so far this is my favourite. Theft Aware may be not perfect but please tell me if you find any better (and cheaper).
Hi guys, i wanna perform a downgrade back to jellybean because kit kat really gets on my nerves for multiple reasons..
The reason i have not done this yet is purely because i dont want to lose anything i have on my phone, basically I'm looking for a backup programme which backs up absolutely everything i have on my internal storage, including 3rd party apps I've installed and set up, downloaded videos which are stored within apps and everything else pretty much THEN once I have performed the downgrade, to be able to just restore the backup and have my phone identical to how it is now only with jellybean instead of kitkat. Is this possible? Cheers in advance.
Titanium Backup is Good but sometimes gives errors.. I personally use Super Backup Pro it never fails very good for App and other items backup and restore
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For apps titanium for pics, mega, 50GB for free, never runs out like dropbox will.
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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NP m8.
PS: Spotted you without a thanks, put one on there for ya
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If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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Very true, using the non pro version will work but it's a mundane task to have to allow and then install each and every app one after another, very useful if you plan on testing different roms with your apps, the automated process is so much quicker and it'll save you time.
Half way through installing 300+ apps you'll be thinking of that pro key.
Plus the do deserve your cash, amazing app titanium.
When looking into these backup apps including titanium it says I need to be rooted to use the features i want. I'm not rooted and dont really plan to be. It's a shame really because i moved over to android so i had more freedom and control over my device and at first I had as much control as i needed with jellybean (more is better obviously) but the kitkat update pretty much made every sd enabled phone into a poor device. Plus I find the wifi range is really bad on kitkat but jellybean had so much better range. My point is that it's annoying that i should have to root my phone to make it as i want it and be able to toy with the settings when really it should already either have these features or be better optimised. Now I'm wondering if i should just root my phone rather than downgrading it? If i root it can i tweak the wifi range? And can I allow my apps to have better access to my sd card? Also if i upgrade to 4.4.4 can i still root the phone after? Cheers
If you root, it is easier to do on 4.4.4, and you can fix the sd card issue.
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Fantastic help from you guys, much appreciated. It's good to actually be on a forum without morons! Lol
Ok so im now possibly leaning toward the rooting route.. Would you advise getting it done by someone in a shop or doing it myself? I'm pretty competent but if it's a risky process then I'd rather it be done properly! Are there any good tutorials for rooting from 4.4.4? Also does rooting wipe the phone memory? Cheers
And any app recommendations for rooted phones that allow me to sort out the sd access problems, also apps that allow me to tinker with my wifi range etc.. Just any good full customisation apps really so i can really get this phone as it should be!
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Cheers pal
Ok so just to be sure.. My phone is totally standard running standard 4.4.4, all I have to do is download and run the tool and my phone is rooted? I don't have to make any mods to my phone first to prepare for it?
I only ask because people mention locked and unlocked boot loaders, i dont know what they are! Or the difference between them.
Sorry for being a pain!
No, just download newroot, run it, then you are rooted and have recovery.
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Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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You sir, are a life saver, I've been deciding to go root my device but ha Ave yet to have a one stop shop to cover all what is necessary. Cheers mate!
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I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.
When I bought note 5 I saw that there is implemented security software in smart manager. I don't know if it's good enough and does works in the background. I already have avg Antivirus pro bought from playstore when I used my previous phone, so my question is can I install avg alongside the security app in smart manager or no,because I relate to Windows problem with 2 Antivirus software working together are causing problems and I don't know if that's the case in Android too.
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These anti-virus apps really have minimal use. Yea, they'll back up your data and what not but they're not the equivalent to what anti-virus software is on the computer. I have never used one on any of my devices. Just be careful of what apk's you download that aren't from the market.
I download apk's only from playstore and from Samsung store. I don't know much how Antivirus apps for Android works but in avg app that I have there is something that protect me while I am surfing the Internet, so I don't know what to do and does it have some real protection or is just gimmick.
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I download apk's only from playstore and from Samsung store. I don't know much how Antivirus apps for Android works but in avg app that I have there is something that protect me while I am surfing the Internet, so I don't know what to do and does it have some real protection or is just gimmick.
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hi,
Firstly, my attitude was also that i did not care /worry about Antivirus on my Android phone.
About 2 year's ago i started realizing and understanding the security and
increase in malware on Android. I have been using Nortons on my laptop, for many years
Further, i was happy, overall with product and always renewing 5 times x any computer /device subscription.
As i had spare subscription left, i included my Android device.
Since then i had used my Antivirus 360 subscription (Nortons) on my phone.
I must admit my attitude changed.
It helped me quite a few times when
surfing the web (malicious attacks?, phishing, bad ratings etc)
It also gves me a risk rating on each app in Play store etc( adverts, battery drainer etc) before i install. Even when sometimes sideloading it scans relevant app before installation. Also can block calls and Sms (same as stock system )
So i got my own Antivirus running on my Note5 with the included system
one, not enabled at all (only one Antivirus.. and i am no refering to Knox etc)
Battery wise, no excessive battery drainage or app been intrusive.
I have change my mind about Antivirus on Android and can only say with increased security risks, i do
need " something "
It's your choice
good luck
Antivirus for android are more like bloatwares because android is linux based OS so no risks of viruses. Only thing you should care for is your data.
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So you say that you have Norton and note's 5 Antivirus on your system and both working without problems?
P. S. Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, my English is not so good.
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darko.baruh said:
So you say that you have Norton and note's 5 Antivirus on your system and both working without problems?
P. S. Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, my English is not so good.
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hi,
Only Norton antivirus ,system one is disabled .You can install Antivirus (of your choice ? ) and it will work fine. Just remember that if you activated the system Antivirus (not Knox).. i recommend you disable system one... if enabled. Take a look at screenshots.. it should explain a lot.. remember it just not all about virus etc. There is a lot more to it...malware web protection etc... etc The screenshots should also tell you this...!
Good luck
Thank you
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Can you please tell me the name of the security app so I can deactivate it? I looked for it and didn't manage to find it.
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darko.baruh said:
Can you please tell me the name of the security app so I can deactivate it? I looked for it and didn't manage to find it.
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hi,
Look at my last screenshot (Smart manager app) , what does your Smart manager say, deactivated or activated ..?
If it says deactivated (like my screenshot) , then don't worry, just install you Antivirus of choice.
Good luck
It's already activated and there isn't a button to deactivate. And in the app manager under all applications I can't find it. ?
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darko.baruh said:
It's already activated and there isn't a button to deactivate. And in the app manager under all applications I can't find it. ?
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hi, Take a look at Phone /Settings /Application Manager , scroll down and try and find it and disable it... i think it should be Mc Afee security or something, not sure...?
Good luck
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hi, Further if you can't find it, just install you Antivirus of choice,
If there is a conflict it should show up. I personally don't think it should give errors. if it does just uninstall your new installed Antivirus. Then you have to most probably Google around to see where its location is on device.
I presume you are stock Rom? not rooted and with Knox not tripped?
I'm stock, not rooted and Knox is not activated. I didn't find the McAfee app, or something Antivirus in application manager. But as you suggest I'll install my avg pro and give it a try. Thank you again.
darko.baruh said:
I'm stock, not rooted and Knox is not activated. I didn't find the McAfee app, or something Antivirus in application manager. But as you suggest I'll install my avg pro and give it a try. Thank you again.
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hi,
yes I agree, i cannot really see it causing issues. I had on my laptop at one stage also 2 x different Antivirus installed and activated. Had no issues at all. Also i am guessing it could be Mc affee, as i vaguely read something to that effect.. but I think I am wrong!
Maybe its just part of Smart manager functions checking for malware.
I would not really "worry" about any issues. or conflicts.
As you stated, jut install AVG pro and if any issues, post in this thread,
I am sure we'll sort it out.!
Good luck.
Anti virus on an android is not worth the resources or battery time. If you only download from the market. Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. You will not get a virus.
LiL_Assassin said:
Anti virus on an android is not worth the resources or battery time. If you only download from the market. Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. You will not get a virus.
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hi ,
i also had similar attitude as you at one stage ,but change it ..
In my case i installed Nortons 360 Premier for a reason .
Its does more than just what you stated above .( take a look at my screenshots )
I don't ( your words )..."Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. "
All my apks is paid apps from Google Play store or Amazon .!!!
or some are just Beta apks, i subscribed /test (for a dev. re an app )
But i do use the internet and read or Google ,( eg if want want to know more about an issue )
I do click on links to follow relevant info i was Googling or reading .......etc etc .
Further eg . 'Stagefright " was spread by MMS ....not, going to your words again ....... "Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. "
Bottom line ...
i like to have something called " peace of mind "
if somebody wants to install Antivirus on his phone.....?
i do understand he wants "peace of mind "!!!!
If you happy with your setup /device and don't use an Antivirus.. ...good ,is your choice ..!!
Today' s Antivirus software does much more than just look for a "virus " !
good luck
I'm debating if I should (for the first time ever), forego unlocking the bootloader and stay on the stock rom. Reasons being rom support is unclear because of the new chip set, but also ota updates, dash charging and Android pay compatibility.
I know I won't be able to restore my titanium backup from my OPO but I'm alright with that.
What do you guys think?
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In my opinion... You must unlock the bootloader and explore the world beyond stock rom. Androids are supposed to root, that's the beauty of it and that's why manufacturers like Oneplus doesn't void warranty now a days. Op3 has a very good dev community and that will be same on Op3t too. I highly recommend you to go ahead and unlock the bootloader.
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I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
GiSS88 said:
I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
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Haha I think we're all the same ! I only root for being able to use AdAway and access to all my phone files and apps. ROM Toolbox is a highly needed app for me too.
I saw that unlocking and rooting doesn't void the waranty ? I didn't know that, great thing ! I hope there will be stock roms avalaible to flash then. I'll come from my Nexus 6, time to change !
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GiSS88 said:
I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
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I don't mind a bit of ads as that's how I see some people making money from the good contents they make. But I have problem w/ non-root Android as it offer no good way to do backup. The only thing that very works is Titanium Root Backup. Yes, every one can say crap all they want about having cloud backup or stay on google stuff but none of that crap work on most games. It's BS at this point that Google is still trying to push everyone away from rooting, but offer no good backup method.
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I don't mind a bit of ads as that's how I see some people making money from the good contents they make. But I have problem w/ non-root Android as it offer no good way to do backup. The only thing that very works is Titanium Root Backup. Yes, every one can say crap all they want about having cloud backup or stay on google stuff but none of that crap work on most games. It's BS at this point that Google is still trying to push everyone away from rooting, but offer no good backup method.
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This is a good point, and most of the time (on desktop) I allow non-intrusive ads. But on my phone, when a pop-up will block an entire webpage, I'm not dealing with it. Sadly, some app makers suffer but I'll still lay the blame on the ad companies.
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GiSS88 said:
I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
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Which app do you use for adaway...?
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manishsoni7689 said:
Which app do you use for adaway...?
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Adaway :laugh:
GiSS88 said:
Adaway [emoji23]
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I mean does it restrict all the ads or only for YouTube?
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manishsoni7689 said:
I mean does it restrict all the ads or only for YouTube?
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There are some that get through, but I believe it blocks everything for browsers and apps. I've never really tested with Youtube, but any ads built in to the video (sponsored) I think still play.
Yeah I root for adaway, blocking YouTube ads and modifying kernel and using skynet. It's just more fun to be able to tune and optimise too my liking.
I root for adaway, kernels to optimize battery life and depending sometimes Roms
If Oneplus' Oxygen OS allows me to use Titanium Backup and Xposed mods, as well as edit some ini documents in root without root then I guess I don't need it.
But seeing as thats the whole point of rooting, I really don't see any way around it. Some of you might laugh, but I install apps and edit settings to mimic the navigation setup similar to the Amazon Prime phone. Tap Home for Home, Hold for Google, double tap for Recent apps, and swipe up from the bottom to go back. Its surprisingly intuitive and unique. It keeps software keys off the screen, and no accidental presses on the capacitive buttons, as well as you don't need to stretch or awkwardly bend your thumb, its just always naturally resting where Home is.
My only question is if the Home button on the OnePlus is capacitive or clicky.
Ivalicenyan said:
If Oneplus' Oxygen OS allows me to use Titanium Backup and Xposed mods, as well as edit some ini documents in root without root then I guess I don't need it.
But seeing as thats the whole point of rooting, I really don't see any way around it. Some of you might laugh, but I install apps and edit settings to mimic the navigation setup similar to the Amazon Prime phone. Tap Home for Home, Hold for Google, double tap for Recent apps, and swipe up from the bottom to go back. Its surprisingly intuitive and unique. It keeps software keys off the screen, and no accidental presses on the capacitive buttons, as well as you don't need to stretch or awkwardly bend your thumb, its just always naturally resting where Home is.
My only question is if the Home button on the OnePlus is capacitive or clicky.
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Capacitive I believe from the op3 I've seen.
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manishsoni7689 said:
In my opinion... You must unlock the bootloader and explore the world beyond stock rom. Androids are supposed to root, that's the beauty of it and that's why manufacturers like Oneplus doesn't void warranty now a days. Op3 has a very good dev community and that will be same on Op3t too. I highly recommend you to go ahead and unlock the bootloader.
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I've been rooting and installing custom roms since the windows mobile days. I just find that the return on using custom roms is getting smaller and smaller now with OOS and the features built in to it now.
Adaway is pretty clutch. I usually go a little while after a clean flash without Adaway but then it needs to come back.
Has anyone here used android pay? How useful is this?
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There is no such a thing like absolute benefits. It mostly depends upon your objectives.
If all you need is to call, text and write instant messages, then keep your stock phone. Easy.
I need a long lasting battery (with my Oneplus One I am at little more than 40 hours), decent camera, a call recorder and no bloat.
Thus I go root, install CM, remove system apps I don't want/need. Also easy, it takes just 10 minutes more.
nhshah7 said:
I've been rooting and installing custom roms since the windows mobile days. I just find that the return on using custom roms is getting smaller and smaller now with OOS and the features built in to it now.
Adaway is pretty clutch. I usually go a little while after a clean flash without Adaway but then it needs to come back.
Has anyone here used android pay? How useful is this?
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Android pay depends on where you are. I'm in Utah and can use it virtually anywhere and I make sure I do. Don't have to pull out my wallet and wonder if I have to swipe or use the chip reader. Just tap and I'm on my way. Probably going to stay stock just to make sure I can keep using it.
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There is no such a thing like absolute benefits. It mostly depends upon your objectives.
If all you need is to call, text and write instant messages, then keep your stock phone. Easy.
I need a long lasting battery (with my Oneplus One I am at little more than 40 hours), decent camera, a call recorder and no bloat.
Thus I go root, install CM, remove system apps I don't want/need. Also easy, it takes just 10 minutes more.
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Yes, I know there are no absolute benefits. I'm just asking others what their benefits are
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Yes, I know there are no absolute benefits. I'm just asking others what their benefits are
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I really don't need root. I just wish Safety Net would pass with an unlocked bootloader. I love using Android Pay but I can't stand ads either. With an unlocked bootloader you don't need root to block ads, you just need TWRP so you can adb push a host file to block them.
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