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I9001 Dead battery on mainboard?

Hello everybody,
I think I have a serious problem with my SGS+. On the mainboard is something that looks like a small battery. It is located between the camera and the loudspeaker (see attached photo). The (assumingly) battery is covered with acid. Two days ago some water poured into my phone through the headphone jack, i recognized it the next day. Since then the power button started to react badly, until it died completely today. I cant even turn my phone on (i have no access to a computer). Might that problem has something to do with the thing on the mainboard? And if it is a battery, can i replace it (the type would be useful)?
Any advice would be helpful.
Thank you for reading my question!
jazzjoe

I am no expert on this, but my uneducated guess is that it is fluid related to a blown capacitor rather than a battery, at least i would draw that conclusion firmly if we were talking about a pc motherboard.
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Thank you for your response. Well if it is a blown capacitor, what could be the consequence? By the way. When i woke up this morning the power button magically respondend, so right now i'm writing from the device. The button reacted a few more times (tried it with locking the device not shutting it down), then it stopped reacting again, that was 5hrs ago. Everything else works fine by now. Can i replace the power button unit? And if it is possible how?
Anyway thank you for your interest, i hope some ideas still to come.
Greetings
Jazzjoe
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jazzjoe said:
i hope some ideas still to come.
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clean first, wrap in tissue paper and place it in dismantle form in a bag a rice for a day or two ...than try it

If it IS a blown capacitor, you could experience anything from failing to power up to cpu overheating. The liquid from capacitors is electrolyte and usually brownish in color.
I don't think it is possible to replace it by soldering a new one on like one could do with a pc motherboard.
Again, I might be far gone here, I would assume that the capacitors in a phone would be smaller than that and I haven't done any research on it.
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adytum said:
Again, I might be far gone here,
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Its a Battery-LI(2ND) Bat 501 Part NO: 4302-001180....But its best to solve water damage FIRST .
Download a i9000 technician manual to get details from My Android Collections it would be similar for i9001

Thank you very much, all of you have been a great help! So you believe the power button issue is caused by the water? Then i'll do the rice and tissue treatment and will later stick to the battery. Thanks again, i'll report the results.
A very optimistic jazzjoe
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Hello again,
after 24+ hours in rice i reassambled the phone. It took me 2 hours to start it. There must be some problem with the on off switch. I met a guy who has some experience with pcs and he said it might be a cold solder joint. What do you think? Might there be another explanation. Like i said, once the phone started it runs smooth. The battery by the way should be something like the cmos at a computer, so it wouldn't bother me if it is dead. Any ideas?
jazzjoe
Ps: is there any way to turn the phone on without a pc?
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There should be a couple of connectors that you could short with a piece of metal if only the power button itself is broken. But I have no idea where they are or if they're accessible at all.
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Sounds a little bit dangerous to me. Any other ideas?
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jazzjoe said:
after 24+ hours in rice i reassambled the phone. It took me 2 hours to start it. There must be some problem with the on off switch. I met a guy who has some experience with pcs and he said it might be a cold solder joint. What do you think? Might there be another explanation. Like i said, once the phone started it runs smooth. The battery by the way should be something like the cmos at a computer, so it wouldn't bother me if it is dead. Any ideas?
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Frankly, it would take a lot more time to fully dry out a water damaged phone with Rice, as moisture stuck in between chips and contacts are to minute and in accessible to be fully removed. ( an XD posted a few days back, that he left his unrecoverable water damaged phone , and after 8 months it was working fine by itself) so .... it may need more time and I think compressed air is one way to get water out of headphone slots
The power switch is prone to damage as it is sandwiched in between the front and back covers of the phone , IF you did not notice it is can be bent or spliced by the forcing the back cover when you assemble it, since it is only a flex (film)
IF your problem came to be because of water damage than the problem is not due to switch but due to water causing the switch to fail, and its odd your battery is leaking, as this never happens in normal circumstances ...these batteries can last at least 5 to 10 years ...so you need to do some goggling to find out why a battery will leak

I have the same problem.
The phone is not mine, it's my brother's one.
I've opened it and the button battery is oxidized.
I have to ask my brother if he has water "problems".
Anyhow the phone doesn't charge anymore so it won't turn on. I have to find a way to charge battery and try to switch it on.
It will be a pity to trash it ;D

****,my wife's i9001 falled down into the water this morning

Please help me solve this once and for all....

I'm going to put short sentences for quickness
Bought N6 off Mobile Phones Direct. Good service. No issues.
Phone charger starts whittling.
Motorola replace charger.
Phone slowly develops symptoms of dodgy battery within 6 weeks:
Expanding battery, case pulling away, red hot charging and draining fast.
After lots of liaison with Motorola who did their best to suggest it was my apo usage they eventually take it for repair. I sent it off ' immaculate ' apart from the fault.
Despite me sending loads of documented online proof that devices like this are being replaced, the Phone comes back 'repaired' not replaced which disappointed me.
Any way I get it back a week later, and initially the phone seems better; apparently it's had a new back and battery.
However I noticed the back was not flush. About .5mm out in alignment and its slightly raised.
In addition, the phone battery gets up to 40 odd degrees when charging and at times it's not pleasant to touch, it's that hot when charging. This is how it all started in the first place!
They've offfered to take it back 'again' and do a ' sort this once and for all ' repair.
I just feel hard done by here. The phone was brand spankers in April and 3 months down the line it's in for a second repair and Motorola aren't even considering replacing this obviously dodgy handset.
If this second repair isn't perfect and working satisfactorily, surely I have some sort of legal rights here to demand a replacement under the not fit for purpose sales of goods act ?

Xperia23 said:
In addition, the phone battery gets up to 40 odd degrees when charging and at times it's not pleasant to touch, it's that hot when charging. This is how it all started in the first place!
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40C, you do realize that a human body on average is at 37C?? 40C isnt even close to being considered hot. when charging, 40C can be considered cool, not hot. lol.

Yeh I realise this I'm just saying that the CPU temp app suggests that temp, but to touch the phone is red hot. Like a cup of tea after its been sat for 10 mins Max.
Thanks for the condescending tone though.

Red Hot suggests burning your skin off. Red Hot would melt the device.
The device is going to get somewhat hot. Not red hot as you suggest.
If that were the case, you would easily be able to separate the glass from the LCD and also pull the LCD from the frame.

Xperia23 said:
Yeh I realise this I'm just saying that the CPU temp app suggests that temp, but to touch the phone is red hot. Like a cup of tea after its been sat for 10 mins Max.
Thanks for the condescending tone though.
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unfortunately, feel isnt an accurate way to discuss temperature. all feel does is show you whats warmer or cooler than what you are feeling with. and that has nothing to do with my tone towards your issie, it just is what it is. i read people complaining constantly that their phone reaches 40C(lol). well, guess what, it can get much hotter normally, up to 100C, thats 212F, or the boiling point of water.
i feel bad for you about your issue, but that happens. but 40C when charging has nothing to do with it.

I'd send it back for the second look-see, since you feel that the back is out of alignment (picture, please?)
I'd offer that the heat issue doesn't seem extreme for a phone, depending upon how it's being charged (e.g., fast charge). Also, do you keep this in any sort of case, perhaps?
I've actually never used the Motorola charger, instead I use a USB 99% of the time. I do recall reading about battery issues with a minority of folks who used the fast charger, so perhaps that's what you initially hit?
- ooofest

For starters the app might be inaccurate but all I know is the phone to touch is considerably hot. Heat kills battery life or increases degradation so therefore it won't be long at this rate, before I need another new battery. My point is this is how it all started and its starting again. Motorola seem quite happy to keep repairing. My simple question was where you feel I stand before claiming unfit for purpose. In a 2 year contract I expect the phone to be reliable but i have no trust in this device. I'll send it back see what they do. Probably another case and send it back.

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For starters the app might be inaccurate but all I know is the phone to touch is considerably hot. Heat kills battery life or increases degradation so therefore it won't be long at this rate, before I need another new battery. My point is this is how it all started and its starting again. Motorola seem quite happy to keep repairing. My simple question was where you feel I stand before claiming unfit for purpose. In a 2 year contract I expect the phone to be reliable but i have no trust in this device. I'll send it back see what they do. Probably another case and send it back.
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and unfortunately, touch does not give you a temperature reading. ok, try this experiment, itll show you about touch and temperature. get 3 glasses of water, one cold, one hot, and one room temperature. put your left hand in tbe cold water and your right hnd in the hot water. keep them there for about 3 minutes. then take out both hands and put both hands into the room temp water. your left hand, which was in cold water, will now feel warm. and your right hand, which was in hot water, will now feel cool. yet they both are in the same temp water.
anyways, send it back, and a hope for a better future from me to you

Right.....Thanks for that. However I know the difference from a phone thats warm to touch and overheating. I expect warm, but I know the phone should be getting this hot, end of. I'm not the only one as well with this issue... Just do a google search. See for yourself. Clearly im pissin in the wind here.

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Right.....Thanks for that. However I know the difference from a phone thats warm to touch and overheating. I expect warm, but I know the phone should be getting this hot, end of. I'm not the only one as well with this issue... Just do a google search. See for yourself. Clearly im pissin in the wind here.
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battery bloating, no you weren't the only one. with a heat issue, you are. sure, you can google and find people that think they have heat issues with the device, but in reality, the issue is in their heads.

Like you said pissing in the wind. Good luck getting help just ridiculed

Mobile Phone Direct in the end replaced - as I was told it fell to the retailer regardless of 28 days or not, if its within 6 months in the UK it falls to the retailer in cases like mine with faulty products. In the end, after sending the phone off to the retailer, they replaced it with a new one one, no issues - took long to get there, but I did in the end.
The new one was perfect throughout my contract. Not a single overheating issue - although it did get warm when charging (nothing like before) and the battery and back cover remain fine.

Xperia Z1 dies at 70% battery and overheats like crazy

Guys, I need help. I'm not sure of this problem is specifically due to software or hardware but it's very annoying since I have to be by the charger all day. The phone goes from 100 to 70% within like 45 minutes and then dies and when I try to turn it on, the red notification light flashes 3 times.
And the phone overheats so much it's not even funny, sometimes even while in standby with absolutely nothing happening. Help please.

Try to recalibrate your battery with a play store app it can help

1) try to flash stock sw with complete wipe of data
2) if that won't help then you'll have to go to some service center - a friend of mine had a similar problem with Xperia Z and some serviceman told him that the phone was a bit damaged with water, so they cleaned it up (don't ask me how though ..)

Griffonaay said:
Guys, I need help. I'm not sure of this problem is specifically due to software or hardware but it's very annoying since I have to be by the charger all day. The phone goes from 100 to 70% within like 45 minutes and then dies and when I try to turn it on, the red notification light flashes 3 times.
And the phone overheats so much it's not even funny, sometimes even while in standby with absolutely nothing happening. Help please.
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I had the exact same problem, except my phone died around 85%.
Replace the battery. The battery in there is made pretty cheap (also made in China); cheap batteries usually have a ton of flaws. I suggest you replace it yourself to lower the costs. Make sure you buy the right equipment too (battery, sticker adhesive glue, spudger tools, hexagonal screw driver (T5 or T6), heatgun/hair dry, guitar pick, suction cup, back cover is optional; I already had a heatgun so the whole thing costed me around $30). Look on YouTube, there's a guide of how to replace it.

kentexcitebot said:
I had the exact same problem, except my phone died around 85%.
Replace the battery. The battery in there is made pretty cheap (also made in China); cheap batteries usually have a ton of flaws. I suggest you replace it yourself to lower the costs. Make sure you buy the right equipment too (battery, sticker adhesive glue, spudger tools, hexagonal screw driver (T5 or T6), heatgun/hair dry, guitar pick, suction cup, back cover is optional; I already had a heatgun so the whole thing costed me around $30). Look on YouTube, there's a guide of how to replace it.
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Agreed.
My phone died at 50%, not much as you but it happened when i use it for 1 year only.
The only way to fix this problem is replace a battery.
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couple of questions regarding the note 5

hey, I'm here spamming with questions again.
1. is the back panel a gorilla glass 4? or just glass/sodalime glass/whatever else?
2. I think the battery in my note 5 is in bad condition. I have installed an app called Battery Doctor and when I charge it to 100% it says that the charge is 1750mAh. Clearly it is not even close to the 3000 the battery is rated at. The previous owner kept it under the charger for full 2 months, I guess that could be the reason its dying. I wanna know if the back is protected somehow because I dont wanna break it when I open it up, the edges are curved and I think theyre the weakest point of the cover.
3. is there a way to "heal" a battery that is in bad condition like mine? I tried to discharge the phone till it shuts down, boot it back up again and let it die again then charge it while its off to 100% but the rating in the app hasnt changed at all. still 1750mah.
thanks again guys

Pawelss said:
hey, I'm here spamming with questions again.
1. is the back panel a gorilla glass 4? or just glass/sodalime glass/whatever else?
2. I think the battery in my note 5 is in bad condition. I have installed an app called Battery Doctor and when I charge it to 100% it says that the charge is 1750mAh. Clearly it is not even close to the 3000 the battery is rated at. The previous owner kept it under the charger for full 2 months, I guess that could be the reason its dying. I wanna know if the back is protected somehow because I dont wanna break it when I open it up, the edges are curved and I think theyre the weakest point of the cover.
3. is there a way to "heal" a battery that is in bad condition like mine? I tried to discharge the phone till it shuts down, boot it back up again and let it die again then charge it while its off to 100% but the rating in the app hasnt changed at all. still 1750mah.
thanks again guys
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Cross check with another app. But even then, I don't trust them 100% for information like battery health etc.
The back is glass (not sure which type) and has a layer of shatter-proof coating underneath. If carefully done, it is possible to remove the back cover using a suction pull on the glass. There's a video where a guy mods his back cover to make it transparent and has removed the back successfully, you can watch that for reference.
Ever sine Note 7 thing, I'm not too happy with pulling batteries out of the devices due to accidental punctures :silly: :crying:
I am not sure there is any method of healing batteries. You need to buy a new one to replace the older one.

thanks for the answer. I tried formatting the battery but the capacity didnt change and the phone dies quickly. I found a replacement back here in poland for about 40$ +shipping so in case I break the original one I'll have a replacement and slap a dbrand skin on it so it doesnt look like crap. as for the note 7 thing, as far as I'm concerned note 5 wasnt as big of a bomb (pun intended) so if done carefully I think it might be relatively safe.

Question Mark and blinking during charging

Hi everyone here, I hope everyone has a good day today. I've got my phone has been dead for quite a while now, the reason is it has the question mark during charging and I can't turn it off. At the first I thought it was the battery problem, I tried open it myself and replaced it with a new battery, however it got worse and it showed question mark battery and the question mark started blinking.
I haven't done checking to the repair shop due to busy with work. What do you guys think about the problem (might be the battery or one of the connector to the battery(?) and how much does it cost to fix it? Thanks in advance

Has it been exposed to moisture?
Is the charging port clean?
Is the battery degraded (less than 80% of its original capacity)?
Is there any swelling, case or display bulging?
If so replace battery asap.
Otherwise, this is a serious problem. Use known good brick and cable. See if that resolves it.
The next step is to replace the battery and check all connections. If that fails replace charging port PCB and/or jack (if it has a replaceable one). If all that fails... mobo failure

Well at the first, I dropped it, then the battery stuck at 50%, then I pressed the back area but still the same, however this phone is already out of warranty so I replaced the battery by myself.

shirobuhito said:
Well at the first, I dropped it, then the battery stuck at 50%, then I pressed the back area but still the same, however this phone is already out of warranty so I replaced the battery by myself.
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If not the battery or loose connector... something was damaged in the drop. Always use a good case to prevent high G loading damage.

Hey! That means the phone isn't detecting the battery. As I saw you made a repair and you have an XL model, check the flex cable itself, especially where it folds, as it's very sensible and you could have bent it too much, breaking the cable.
I say that because I actually did that mistake, the cable doesn't usually come bent, so you need to bend it so it can fit, and when I did that I actually break it.
Hope this helps you!

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Hey! That means the phone isn't detecting the battery. As I saw you made a repair and you have an XL model, check the flex cable itself, especially where it folds, as it's very sensible and you could have bent it too much, breaking the cable.
I say that because I actually did that mistake, the cable doesn't usually come bent, so you need to bend it so it can fit, and when I did that I actually break it.
Hope this helps you!
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I checked the flexible and it seems to be normal to me. I would not mind to buy another battery of it's the case. Thank you! Where did you buy the battery from?

shirobuhito said:
I checked the flexible and it seems to be normal to me. I would not mind to buy another battery of it's the case. Thank you! Where did you buy the battery from?
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It's very hard to see using just the eye. Maybe if you have other phone try to zoom into the cable to check.
I usually buy this things from ebay. Just check it's a great seller and that the price isn't very cheap neither very expensive.