Windows Phone 8 devices based on x86? - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've discovered this folder in leaked WP8 SDK - does it mean there will be WP8 x86 devices?
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That will probably be for the emulator, which is probably x86 like the wp7 one. As you have the SDK, could you please upload it somewhere where other people can get it, eg MediaFire

Microsoft is still being extremely cautious with their silicon (and, well, everything). You can also target x86 from within Visual studio but this is all 99% for the emulator which is definitely still x86.

Yes, that is just for emulator. Even WP7 emulator is x86! The best speed you can get with "emulator". Unlike that foody thing - Jelly Bean I think?
Also NT kernel has many target architectures - even originally it was not just for x86 but also for MIPS and others. ARM is the latest architecture they added now with W(P)8.

I think its likely that there will be x86 phones, since isn't Intel really pushing for mobile with its new Medfield architecture and said that Atom would be the first to get 14nm?

Except that none of the "new" D3D apps wouldn't run it, unless you would be able to upload both ARM and x86 versions .

Windows Phone 8 was created from Windows 8. They share the same kernel so it is possible.
I speak the truth; you just have to open your ears to hear it.

Intel and MS have been "friends" for a very long time. So I'd say, yes, definitely. Especially since Intel is pushing quite hard to get into the mobile space, but the most phone manufactures weren't very interested. As MS has built the infrastructure to essentially only hit one button and you get an ARM and an Intel version of an app it seems at least QUITE possible... :angel:

Hades32 said:
Intel and MS have been "friends" for a very long time. So I'd say, yes, definitely. Especially since Intel is pushing quite hard to get into the mobile space, but the most phone manufactures weren't very interested. As MS has built the infrastructure to essentially only hit one button and you get an ARM and an Intel version of an app it seems at least QUITE possible... :angel:
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That depends on code itself, not on friendship D:

It would be possible but I am with OndraSter on this one: it is highly unlikely that we will see Intel-based WP8 devices. I'm still curious to see how that Multi-Platform approach will work out for Windows RT given that many native Applications in the W8 Store at the moment tell you that they are not able to run on ARM-based machines.
Microsoft can make it possible to upload different binaries but in the end it would create fragmentation (does not work on ARM-devices as the Dev only had an x86 phone or does not work on x86-devices).

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BSODroid - BSOD any Vista machine on your network!

BSODroid is my first Android application. It is a proof of concept implementation of a flaw in Windows Vista, which is so far unpatched (although Microsoft are due to start distributing the patch any moment now), that allows a user to send a Blue Screen of Death to that computer over the network.
Main thread in Development section, but I just thought I'd post it here as I know that most Android users seem to check this section for Android applications, rather than the Development section!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558558
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43 downloads and no comments? Anyone out there having some fun with this?
ohhh yea i tried it at few test machines yesterday, it worked both on vista and windows 7RC. Not sure abt windows 7RTM but i think it also works on certain windows 2008 servers. Microsoft whats going onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
They dont have a patch available yet, but they do provide a workaround a registry hack that wont let BSoD comeup.
I d like to know more abt it whats the process here if you dont mind
Didn't work on my Win 7 RTM but thanks for the app.
Does this app can damage the computer / hard disk who gets the BSOD ??
Thanks for tour creation
It's great job.
i search an ip scanner for android ?? if you have information
apt said:
Didn't work on my Win 7 RTM but thanks for the app.
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Only works on Vista RC, they fixed it in the RTM.
dodgyal said:
Only works on Vista RC, they fixed it in the RTM.
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You mean Win 7 RC
Have almost broken 1000 downloads! (Currently at 950)
If anyone's interested, go ahead and give it a try from the market!
Does it harm your PC or just gives you the bsod?
I want to know if it actually harms the comp as well. If its just a temp thing that doesn't actually do some serious damage this could be pretty fun!
Oh look, somebody found a way to be an Internet Griefer in real life.
Congrats.
Maybe instead of making this harassment app, you should've just reported the flaw to Microsoft through their developer feedback areas?

tablet pc ui/os that's good?

Okay so I'm running a dell xt2 3gig ram 120 gig hd with windows 7 on it. And I have to say while its fast and gets the job done, there is a lot that the os doesn't supply in the ui department. I installed the origami experience for vista and that seems to help a bit, but because its 1200x800, the experience is quite ugly and limited.
I guess what I am looking for is a fast finger friendly tablet pc ui (something like the sense ui). I have the metro ui installed currently and while its good I am getting a bit bored with it. So xda, are there any more?
edit I don't have a specific os in mind. if there is a linux build that rocks toss it over
I've tried moblin but wasnt impressed
For linux: Ubuntu netbook remix. Haven't tried it because my tablet has no touch/wifi linux support.
For Windows: I use Centrafuse(mainly GPS software, but is customizable) and blue dolphin because it is finger friendly. I haven't found anything close to a Sense UI in terms of depth.
link to blue dolphin?
What about Archos 9?
It seems quite ok
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orb3000 said:
What about Archos 9?
It seems quite ok
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*points to first post*
I already have a tablet =)
I am looking for a ui/ux
domineus said:
link to blue dolphin?
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How silly of me, took me forever to find it first time
Go to this web site and select the download button, this will relay you to an ftp site where you can get this software for XP or 7
http://ctl.helpserve.com/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=19&nav=0,6,1
As for the Archos 9: running a viliv s5 overclocked to 1.8ghz and a nice runcore ssd, it is still rather laggy, and the archos has no custom ui
Have you tried moblin/meego?
If what you want is just a fancy UI, try Samurize. Very customisable and last time I've checked it was also free! Loads of users share their customisations on the site. It is compatible with Win XP, Vista and Server 2003 but don't mention Win 7.
http://www.samurize.com/modules/myalbum/
See sample below.
wovens ty for the response i will try as soon as i reformat windows 7 on mine and get the appropriate drivers from the dell website
as for the question of trying moblin/meego
moblin i tried (read the first post)
meego doesnt have any stable candidates until next month
dolphin finally loaded and that impressed me quite a bit. i like it but there are some issues with it on my dell sadly. it was a monster to install. but thanks for the suggestions they definitely help me out a lot
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Windows Phone 7 DRM for Apps Cracked with Proof of Concept Program [Video]

Security is an important aspect of anything that gets used by anyone, at any given moment around the world. For developers of applications that get purchased through a digital storefront, like Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7 Marketplace, making sure that it’s not easy, next to impossible in fact, to steal apps and put them on a device free-of-charge is just as important. But, as WPCentral reports, it looks like the Digital Rights Management (DRM) security tools set in place by Microsoft have been cracked!
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Fortunately, though, the program that is being used to do so is not known to the general public. In point of fact, the “white hat” developer that created it is just showing it as a proof of concept. If the program were to make it out into the world, then it would be possible for some people out there to strip the DRM from applications available in the Windows Phone 7 Marketplace, and then download them for free.
As of the time of this writing, Microsoft hasn’t made an official comment regarding the security hole. WPCentral has been in contact with Brandon Watson from Microsoft, but so far they have not heard back from him. The video demonstrating the proof of concept program making short work of DRM for the Windows Phone 7 applications can be viewed below.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=flqB9WCkGiQ
I hope they fix this security hole soon. I'm not even a developer and I see this as a really big problem for the WP7 platform. I'm sure iPhone and Android developers do not have to be as worried about pirating only because the volume of paying customers is so much higher. With a much smaller customer base, anything that would discourage a WP7 developer from developing for the platform is bad for WP7.
Note: Shouldn't this be posted in the WP7 General forum? It has nothing to do with HD7.
is this video realy evidense that this is working?

[Q] VideoCore driver code now open-source ?

Source : http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
Good news if I understood right :
Video driver for the Raspberry Pi are now open-source.
Does that mean we could soon have a working Android 4.0/4.1(or any other OS needing Video Acceleration) without hideous lag, for instance.
Ghuntar WALDMEISTER said:
Source : http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
Good news if I understood right :
Video driver for the Raspberry Pi are now open-source.
Does that mean we could soon have a working Android 4.0/4.1(or any other OS needing Video Acceleration) without hideous lag, for instance.
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COOL So Android is around the corner.
Are You sure ?
On the drawing it says GPL/BSD Licenced :
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Yeah I don't think he read the blog post
I don't think createpassword knows what he's talking about This is good news as it has great potential for devs looking to port other operating systems. Now devs won't need to waste time reverse engineering this, they can get right to the good stuff!
As seen on Phoronix:
With the opened up user-space, the kernel driver also stands a chance of being accepted into the mainline Linux kernel tree... The only bit that's not opened up is the microcode/firmware, which still must be loaded at boot, but still that's nothing different than how the AMD Radeon driver functions along with some other GPUs
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Thank you for the links. Ok it's not "fully" open source as advertised, but is it usable to build something functional ?
If I understand well, they gave a "how-to" of their black box, not the blue prints.
createpassword said:
You're seriously quoting Michael Larabel?
LMFAO!!!!!
And FYI: Larabel posted a retraction: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDk
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Lol yeah I read his retraction and I was hoping to get back to this thread to retract my comment but you beat me to it... is it too late to blame Phoronix? So yeah, I was wrong about that one, big time. But seriously, what do you have against Michael Larabel? I always thought Phoronix to be fairly reliable (though how this played out is making me second guess that). Is there a better source for Linux hardware related news you can recommend? I'd be interested to check it out, you obviously have a better grasp on this than me :laugh:
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Adreno (which involves some RE, but is mostly from Radeon documentation since Adreno happens to actually BE a Radeon -- specifically, its a hybrid of R500 and R600).
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i never knew that, you learn something new every day! and here i was thinking that ATI/AMD didnt have any real foothold in the mobile world and my phone is basically packing a radeon

¿Something Like Joying 1din 10" with RK3188 SOC?

Well, I am looking one Android radio for a friend, but the radio must be 1din, we found the Joying and the format and idea it is so nice, but they use Intel SoFIA 3GR 4 Cores... And now I think it is not the right moment for these SoC and ppl say it not work fine with Windows 10 either...
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¿Any other idea?
thanks!
The joying Intel units don't use Windows they use Android. If you have found a good unit with Intel sofia then I would just buy it, the real world performance compared to the rk3188 is almost identical, it's the 2gb of ram that makes the most difference. The Joying sofia units also have a much more flexible Bluetooth implementation allowing you to connect to devices other than OBD and Phone .
WILD9 said:
The joying Intel units don't use Windows they use Android. If you have found a good unit with Intel sofia then I would just buy it, the real world performance compared to the rk3188 is almost identical, it's the 2gb of ram that makes the most difference. The Joying sofia units also have a much more flexible Bluetooth implementation allowing you to connect to devices other than OBD and Phone .
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It is no a problem about performance, I'm afraid, the x86 android apps not continue develope... and I spend around 500$ for a something not wrok right and will be not any solution in the near future.
The windows 10 idea is the plan B.... but...
((((
The apps don't need to be x86 Intel chip can run run arm native apps as well as dalvik apps
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The apps don't need to be x86 Intel chip can run run arm native apps as well as dalvik apps
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Really? I always saw the apk for arm, arm64 and x86, then I thought the system and the apps must had the versions of their SOC's.... sound strange for me... then The only main problem will be the system never will get an update?
Read the top answer here it explains it better than I would :
https://www.quora.com/Can-Android-phones-with-the-Intel-SoC-run-every-app-on-Play-Store-as-efficiently-as-with-the-Qualcomm-SoC
on Android only legacy applications really distinguish between architecture, modern apps using Dalvik or ART (almost everything these days) are not specific to x86, ARM or MIPS and run fine on all architectures. Updates aren't really relevant either, its a processor and still supported by Rockchip (SoFIA was a joint venture between Intel and Rockchip) It's just that there wont be any newer SoFIA models coming out in the future. That isn't the same as no future x86 processors running android:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3174751/mobile/intel-isnt-yet-done-with-x86-smartphone-chips.html

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