To CWM or not CWM - Nexus 7 General

My Nexus 7 should be arriving soon, and since this is not my first Android but is my first Nexus device, I have a question for others out there: is it a good idea to install CWM on a Nexus device if you primarily want to use stock ROMs? Vanilla Android is one of the major draws to me (I may want to install CM10 at some point when it's stable), so would I be better off rooting it and not touching the recovery partition so I can receive the latest updates?
I know rooted stock ROMs crop up very quickly, but I'm kinda looking forward to just receiving the updates rather than having to wait till I get home to flash a new update.

Why not? What's the downside of installing CWM?

I've rooted and customized my other devices, but I like the N7's software as-is. I'm not installing cwm.
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I prefer TWRP over CWM.

If you want to stay stock all the way, you don't need to. If you start to feel differently, you can always go back and do it.
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airmaxx23 said:
I prefer TWRP over CWM.
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Same here
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I don't own an Android device that doesn't have CWM installed.

The thing with Nexus devices is that Google releases factory images for the devices so its easy to always go back to stock for whatever reason via fastboot. So if you want to try out CWM there will be no harm in the future with it if you decide to go back to stock.

I'm pretty new to this, but for what it's worth, I rooted and CWModded my N7. I removed the CWM, because it wouldn't allow me to update to 4.1.1. I had to go back to stock recovery, then it worked.

TidBit said:
I'm pretty new to this, but for what it's worth, I rooted and CWModded my N7. I removed the CWM, because it wouldn't allow me to update to 4.1.1. I had to go back to stock recovery, then it worked.
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weird.
i got mine on monday. unlocked and rooted and installed CWM with the toolkit.
the next day OTA hits and its updated.
CWM all the way.

What I did was stick with stock recovery. If I want to make a nandroid backup I use temporary CWM, which you can invoke from a root toolkit and usb cable. It goes back to stock after rebooting, works out well really.

I wouldn't have because custom recovery just makes it harder to get OTA updates. Stock recovery is fine since my device is backed up on the cloud anyway.
However I ended up putting TWRP on it since the stock recovery stinks so bad. It doesn't work (or any of them) unless your computer is plugged to your Nexus. This is a known issue but Google hasn't announced a fix. I've also found that my updates would fail also. I got the Android picture with a triangle above it. I don't know what messed my stock recovery up but at any rate once that was done I went ahead and put something else on here to enable me to flash roms.
Short answer -- don't bother changing it, there's no need.

CWM!

cwm and Paul's jr6. Without his rom u lose features being rooted. Paul patched it up so you don't lose features, and it still feels totally stock.
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@Trickee360 Simple solution. Its a Nexus. Meaning its very easy and simple to work with. Push your choice recovery image using fastboot, do a backup and flash supersu. U wanna go stock for an ota, simple do a restores to your backup. Root again flash the supersu zip. Super easy. Nexus isn't like all those devices that have all the crap on em and u have to use a 3rd party deal then wait and if u look at it wrong it bricks..lol. none of that. This is the real deal. Another reason ill only ever own Nexus. Its all on youtube. How to install sdk (qbking77) how to root ---same root method as galaxy nexus.
★To have a Nexus device and not root is against the law. If u get caught u will have to pick up trash on the side of the road for 2000 hrs. ;-P I bet the majority of u guys saying no root now will have it rooted by next mo.

I won't be rooting, I don't think. I have rooted every Android device I have owned, but I am very satisfied with the stock experience.
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I unlocked and rooted after unboxing and I'm so glad I did. Its amazing what this tablet can become when you start tapping into its potential with refined custom software.
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Update to Gingerbread, and Lose root??

So I have the latest rom.. Cm6 rc3.. I got this by using the one click Root method.. the app that you had to have, i don't have anymore due to wiping my phone..
I reinstalled the app and pressed unroot to see if I still could... I couldn't..
I then pressed root and it said that im already rooted..
By wiping my phone and losing that app, am i now stuck on root?..
I read somewhere around these forums that once gingerbread comes out for the nexus one, the people that have rooted their phone with the one click method will lose root once they update to 3.0.. Like everything will be back to normal, stock everything.. it'll be like you have never rooted in the first place..
Is that true?
P. S. I do love being rooted tho lol.
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most update will make you stock again, just like when update to froyo
but then some genius here will figure it out and BAM we're rooted again, so no worries man
ANY OTA update loses root. Just wait til gingerbread comes out and let Cyanogen or Paul gets root working on it before you flash it. Most likely it will erase all data and you gotta redownload and resync everything.
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ANY OTA update loses root. Just wait til gingerbread comes out and let Cyanogen or Paul gets root working on it before you flash it. Most likely it will erase all data and you gotta redownload and resync everything.
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Really? Wow ok.. Thanks fellas
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Creating the rooted rom is pretty easy. The problem is usually for devices that have updated to some manufacturer update that locked the device down more.
Stock updates reverts back to stock as many have already said.

I traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic

'Ello lads!.. So yes, I've traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic(+ cash) with some fine chap. Sure the Nexus has a bit of a screen advantage but performance wise I honestly don't notice a dfference. The big thing is I'm glad the reception issues I was having with the Nexus are gone.
Anyway, that's alo for now. Cheerio!
Welcome! Update to .901 so this phone doesn't piss you. Can be a real slag without that update.
Cheers!
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voxigenboy said:
'Ello lads!.. So yes, I've traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic(+ cash) with some fine chap. Sure the Nexus has a bit of a screen advantage but performance wise I honestly don't notice a dfference. The big thing is I'm glad the reception issues I was having with the Nexus are gone.
Anyway, that's alo for now. Cheerio!
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I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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Nicelysedated said:
Welcome! Update to .901 so this phone doesn't piss you. Can be a real slag without that update.
Cheers!
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So far I've done that Zerg manual root on the phone. Can I simply just download a ROM w/ .901 integrated or do I still have to do some sort of .901 update first?
lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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well, the battery life was pretty bad on the thing and was pissed that the 'extended battery' was only 250mAh more then the stock. on top of that, unless the phone was charging in 'ac mode', it would lose charge if you were trying to use it while in 'usb mode' charging. also i had severe reception issues with it(kept going back & forth from 3g to 4g & occasionally lost signal all together). and finally, i wanted the extra cash for something.
either way though i qualify for another upgrade this march anyway... pretty sure though that i'm just going to hold off until the quad's are out.
voxigenboy said:
So far I've done that Zerg manual root on the phone. Can I simply just download a ROM w/ .901 integrated or do I still have to do some sort of .901 update first?
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If you look in one of the .901 threads you can find a link to.download the update. Flash it in bootstrap. After that you can change to any of the .901 compatible ROMs. I don't think the ROMs update the radio.
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voxigenboy said:
well, the battery life was pretty bad on the thing and was pissed that the 'extended battery' was only 250mAh more then the stock. on top of that, unless the phone was charging in 'ac mode', it would lose charge if you were trying to use it while in 'usb mode' charging. also i had severe reception issues with it(kept going back & forth from 3g to 4g & occasionally lost signal all together). and finally, i wanted the extra cash for something.
either way though i qualify for another upgrade this march anyway... pretty sure though that i'm just going to hold off until the quad's are out.
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I was just poking fun . I'm sure you had your reasons. Welcome aboard.
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lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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Yeah, in reality there is nothing wrong with my Bionic and once we get ICS I'll be content. Kudos to Moto for setting the trend, announcing the Bionic would get ICS before other manufacturers made statements about their devices.
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We will get ics. Just dont trust moto on time frames. We were supposed to have an unlocked bootloader end of last year. Its january 11 2012.
davwman said:
We will get ics. Just dont trust moto on time frames. We were supposed to have an unlocked bootloader end of last year. Its january 11 2012.
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Anyone get CWR to work on the Bionic? It is suppose to work but I can't get it to reboot into recovery?
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Anyone get CWR to work on the Bionic? It is suppose to work but I can't get it to reboot into recovery?
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yeah the how to's in the dev section aren't exactly user friendly. basically though, i was not able to get CWM to work on it's own. you have to download that "Safestrap" .apk and install it. after doing so, it will install recovery itself. once that's done, you reboot your phone and press the MENU key once prompted, then you'll go into recovery.
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yeah the how to's in the dev section aren't exactly user friendly. basically though, i was not able to get CWM to work on it's own. you have to download that "Safestrap" .apk and install it. after doing so, it will install recovery itself. once that's done, you reboot your phone and press the MENU key once prompted, then you'll go into recovery.
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Thanks I will get that a shot today.
Update... Working now. Thanks again
I may write out a few how to's with all the fixes.
I agree, out of all the phones/tabs I've rooted/ROM'd the how to's in the Bionic Dev section are a bit...lacking.
All the info is there, but it takes you 5 hours to figure it out b/c the steps, dummy guides, fixes are spread out all over the place between here and a few other forums.
Safestrap is really nice though.
got556 said:
I may write out a few how to's with all the fixes.
I agree, out of all the phones/tabs I've rooted/ROM'd the how to's in the Bionic Dev section are a bit...lacking.
All the info is there, but it takes you 5 hours to figure it out b/c the steps, dummy guides, fixes are spread out all over the place between here and a few other forums.
Safestrap is really nice though.
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Yeah, your right. I don't know exactly what safestrap is (assuming its similar to bootstrap which I use) and when I tried to research it I got confused and just decided to stick with bionic bootstrap since I can't find a reason why its needed even though everyone talks about it.
I wouldn't use rom manager, just do everything in one of the two recoveries. Here's a breakdown of the recoveries for the Bionic
Bionic Safestrap
-Allows two system partitions
-One system is non-safe system where your main stock system resides. You can make and restore backups in this partition but you cannot install custom roms.
-The other system is safe system. This is the partion that lets you install roms and what not.
-You can toggle between the two systems from within safestrap recovery. It will automatically backup the current system before switching over.
-Safestrap has a nice feature that prevents bricks. On restart if Safestrap is installed there is a boot menu that pops up. You can hit the menu button to get into recovery from there. This comes in handy if you are having a bootloop. Just pull battery, restart phone and hit menu key when safestrap animation appears.
-One downside is that webtop doesn't work in safe system and the rom may run a tad bit slower in safe system partition
Bionic Bootstrap
-This is the riskier one
-This is more like regular clockwork recovery. You boot intro recovery from the bootstrap app.
-You can make backups, install roms etc in bootstrap recovery
-If you enter a bootloop while using bootstrap recovery, your phone is pretty much bricked. Because of the encrypted bootloader there is not a way to get back into recovery if using bootstrap. You will have to use sbf/fxz from a pc computer to unbrick your phone.
*You can use bootstrap to install a custom rom as your main system, and then install safestrap after if you want. But fully know what your are doing before you do this. If you don't use webtop, I recommend safestrap recovery for everything. Here is something I wrote over at Droidforums
-I have been testing roms out in safestrap to make sure they install and load up correctly
-I then toggle back to my main system in safestrap
-I then uninstall safestrap and install bootstrap.
-Then I boot into bootstrap recovery through that app
-Make a backup in bootstrap (always have a backup of your stock unmodified system)
-Wipe data and cach
-Install the Rom that I first tested in safestrap
-After Rom loads up and your are done flashing you can install safestrap again if you want. This way you will have a rom as your safe system and you can have another rom as your non-safe system. Webtop will work with roms on your main system.
stelv said:
I wouldn't use rom manager, just do everything in one of the two recoveries. Here's a breakdown of the recoveries for the Bionic
Bionic Safestrap
-Allows two system partitions
-One system is non-safe system where your main stock system resides. You can make and restore backups in this partition but you cannot install custom roms.
-The other system is safe system. This is the partion that lets you install roms and what not.
-You can toggle between the two systems from within safestrap recovery. It will automatically backup the current system before switching over.
-Safestrap has a nice feature that prevents bricks. On restart if Safestrap is installed there is a boot menu that pops up. You can hit the menu button to get into recovery from there. This comes in handy if you are having a bootloop. Just pull battery, restart phone and hit menu key when safestrap animation appears.
-One downside is that webtop doesn't work in safe system and the rom may run a tad bit slower in safe system partition
Bionic Bootstrap
-This is the riskier one
-This is more like regular clockwork recovery. You boot intro recovery from the bootstrap app.
-You can make backups, install roms etc in bootstrap recovery
-If you enter a bootloop while using bootstrap recovery, your phone is pretty much bricked. Because of the encrypted bootloader there is not a way to get back into recovery if using bootstrap. You will have to use sbf/fxz from a pc computer to unbrick your phone.
*You can use bootstrap to install a custom rom as your main system, and then install safestrap after if you want. But fully know what your are doing before you do this. If you don't use webtop, I recommend safestrap recovery for everything. Here is something I wrote over at Droidforums
-I have been testing roms out in safestrap to make sure they install and load up correctly
-I then toggle back to my main system in safestrap
-I then uninstall safestrap and install bootstrap.
-Then I boot into bootstrap recovery through that app
-Make a backup in bootstrap (always have a backup of your stock unmodified system)
-Wipe data and cach
-Install the Rom that I first tested in safestrap
-After Rom loads up and your are done flashing you can install safestrap again if you want. This way you will have a rom as your safe system and you can have another rom as your non-safe system. Webtop will work with roms on your main system.
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Thanks I too was a little fuzzy on Safestrap. Now I know.
No problem. Here is a good link on safestrap http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8794-bionic-safestrap-bootstrap-recovery-12142011/page__fromsearch__1
kendive said:
I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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It's not possible to talk and surf at the same time on Verizon's 3g network. I don't believe that is a feature most people need or would even use, but it sounds good on the commercials.
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lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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The Nexus isn't worth it. I've tested it out and wasn't too impressed. One big thing I didn't like about it was that it only had 3 buttons compared to the normal 4 (home, back, search, menu). That might not be as big of deal with newer users who aren't as used to certain things, but I've been with Android for almost 3 years so the typical 4 buttons is a must as its something I became used to.
As far or the specs, its nothing to get excited about when they have much better coming out this spring and summer.
As far as ice cream sandwich, the bionic is getting it and will have Google's help with getting it set up for our phones.
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Next Step For Nexus One

I've had my Nexus One a couple of years and there's not really anything out there I really fancy at the moment.
Therefore, to give it a new lease of life, I really need to get more free space.
I'm running 2.3.6 straight from Google at the moment on a rooted device to cut down on network bloatware.
However, in the UK there's lots of apps we can't use and I don't want to use, such as Voice, Music, Books, Facebook... but these can't be uninstalled.
So what are my options? Do I run a custom rom? Is there a rom that allows me to remove the built in apps?
Any helps or suggestions welcome.
Cyanogenmod
One word, Cyanogenmod.
I'm shocked your phone is rooted and you haven't flashed it by now. If you can get a fresh battery for your nexie, you will not "need" an upgrade for another year at least.
Rom Manager from the market will also make everything go a lot smoother. Also, watch a few YouTube videos to speed things up a bit on your end.
Josh-
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/nexus-one
Since you have already rooted you can easily uninstall your apps like facebook,books by using "root uninstaller".which is available for free in the play store
Use app 2 sd to move apps to sd card
Google's stock rom is bugless but u can add a taste to ur nexus one by flashing custom roms like cyanogen mod,sense roms
if u just want to remove those bloatwares but still stay on stock rom, u can use titanium backup to remove those unwanted apps.
imho there are plenty of roms (even stock based) that are rock stable and more efficient than stock.
i suppose ur warranty shd hv finished and there wont be official ics, then wats the point in staying wid stock. ( jus my 2 cents )
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One word, Cyanogenmod.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/nexus-one
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OK, I've decided to take this route, but I'm missing the basics, as I can't seem to get the fastboot to work following this guide to install a custom recovery image.
I keep getting 'fastboot not a recognised command'?
I'm probably doing something really stupid, but I don't know what?
FYI - Running Windows 7 if that makes a difference?
Ignore me, sorted that bit now, so onwards I go...
Managed to get it all up and running, but had to go through installing the app from the market, as the startup option didn't seem to work. I'd select something, but it wouldn't actually do anything!?
So now I've got it installed, are there any key things about Cyanogenmod that I should setup, enable, install etc to get the best from it?
cyanogen doesnt include gapps
by default. u have to flash it seperately. flash the correct gapps provided along with the rom
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cyanogen doesnt include gapps
by default. u have to flash it seperately. flash the correct gapps provided along with the rom
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I installed gapps afterwards without a problem, it was Clockwork I was having issues with, but got around that.
Had a little play earlier today and all seems to be going well with a more space.
More tweaking this evening
tweaking n playing... thats wat u get by rooting
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New Bionic Coming...

So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently...
- Does taking a leaked version make OTA'ing to the official build more difficult? I can just root the new one with .905 and wait if it's simpler.
Answers to the above would make my night! I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts
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232 is extremely easy to install. Rooting it is just as easy. Here is a simple and complete method. I am on an iPod so you gotta find the downloads on your own.
Ensure you are on 905
Download 232 and put it on your sdcard. Just on the first level (root) folder
Turn your bionic off
Press power and both volume buttons at the same time
Hold them until it powers on and just wait a moment
Sometimes I can speed up getting to the recovery by pressing both volume buttons again
Once you see blue letters in recovery. stock recovery. Select install zip. Choose Zip
Then let it install. Once it is done restart I it doesn't automatically. Can't remember.
Rooting. Use razers edge
For that, turn your phone on in ics
Enable debugging mode on your phone
Unzip the razersedge zip into a folder on your desktop
Then plug your phone into a USB port
Let your phone connect (I am assuming you have the Motorola drivers installed. If not. Do that
Open the folder on your desktop and run the program called run
Hit a button on your computer when told to and wait for it to say done
There you go
Just that easy.
Probably takes less than 20 minutes
So does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of installed apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
Thanks again for the previous reply. And should I not root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And root of the external SD I'm assuming?
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So does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of installed apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
Thanks again for the previous reply. And should I not root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thi
nking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And root of the external SD I'm assuming?
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I honestly have never tried to load a leak while rooted in 905. I am pretty sure people were looking for the method to root the leak because it didn't carry over. I can't be for sure on that. Either way, rooting is a cake walk.
As for taking an official OTA update, there have been guys on here talking about it, but if you are aiming to be rooted, get titanium back up, once you have made a full back up your can copy that to an external car or to your computer or where ever you go. Then, for sure, the very worst it possibly can be is FXZ to 902,which is a little scary the first time, but works very very well and is pretty easy too. Then ota up all the way and root and restore from time backup. Probably can get away with doing apps and data as the restore.
If you are comfortable and want a bit more of a challenge, you can go through the fxz with no data loss thing. I am too lazy for that and time backup gets my data back just fine for me.
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So does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of installed apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
Thanks again for the previous reply. And should I not root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And root of the external SD I'm assuming?
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So you are looking into ICS leaks. If you currently running. 905 rooted and completely stock, I mean all apps that came with the stock moto rom and nothing frozen or deleted, and then easy breeze. Download OTA root keeper from app store and backup root with that app. Download the ICS. 232 leak onto your external sd storage., the one that you can take out. Go in and backup everything you need to keep off of the internal storage, you will need to format it using the phone's settings. If you use safe strap make sure you uninstall it using the app. Disable root with the OTA root keeper app then power off and reboot into stock recovery and install leak. After leak has booted and you are done setting up use the OTA root keeper app to regain root and enjoy ICS goodness..
Once the ICS official is out all you would need to do is fxz back to. 905 using this method http://www.droidforums.net/forum/mo...wngrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html#post2173723
Then apply official update.

What are my options?

I have a VZW 16GB Moto X currently rooted and safestrap installed, I keep defering the update since I don't want to lose root and am pretty sure it will fail since stock recovery is gone.
What are my options to either get the OTA with root or disabling the update notification?
I am not 100% sure i want to dive into an SS ROM nor is there really anything out there.
Just trying to figure out what I should do / what everyone else is doing.
DiGi91 said:
I have a VZW 16GB Moto X currently rooted and safestrap installed, I keep defering the update since I don't want to lose root and am pretty sure it will fail since stock recovery is gone.
What are my options to either get the OTA with root or disabling the update notification?
I am not 100% sure i want to dive into an SS ROM nor is there really anything out there.
Just trying to figure out what I should do / what everyone else is doing.
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I would get the OTA with root. The camera and phone call difference really do show in my opinion.
To keep your root I would rsd back to stock. Download pwnmymoto and install it BUT don't run it. Just have it installed. Then update. After the update you can run pwnmymoto and you'll have root with the OTA. Jcase said this is the correct way to do it.
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I would get the OTA with root. The camera and phone call difference really do show in my opinion.
To keep your root I would rsd back to stock. Download pwnmymoto and install it BUT don't run it. Just have it installed. Then update. After the update you can run pwnmymoto and you'll have root with the OTA. Jcase said this is the correct way to do it.
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I will consider doing that, it's just a giant PITA since I will have start from scratch.. Coming from the S III and flashing a new ROM every day this is so different to me lol. There is nothing wrong with the stock ROM just regretting not waiting for the dev edition to be honest.. I still use my S III as a media player and lately have been thinking of switching back, just hoping we get 4.4 soon or something to make it a bit better.
I know safe strap is another option but haven't heard great things about it and back in the droid 3 days remembered using it.
Just backup your apps and restore after you're rooted again. No starting from scratch necessary. I used titanium backup and didn't have any issues.
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pyro6128 said:
Just backup your apps and restore after you're rooted again. No starting from scratch necessary. I used titanium backup and didn't have any issues.
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Can you use the new FXZ to return to OTA'd stock if necessary down the road?
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Just backup your apps and restore after you're rooted again. No starting from scratch necessary. I used titanium backup and didn't have any issues.
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Yeah I might do that, I just don't have the time right now. I heard the OTA is a big improvement though. I wish I could be rooted with write access and no need for workarounds lol wishful thinking..
EDIT: Besides using safestrap
anotherfiz said:
Can you use the new FXZ to return to OTA'd stock if necessary down the road?
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Yup, stock OTA, but you can't go back to a previous version
DiGi91 said:
Yeah I might do that, I just don't have the time right now. I heard the OTA is a big improvement though. I wish I could be rooted with write access and no need for workarounds lol wishful thinking..
EDIT: Besides using safestrap
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fyi. if you are on vzw then SS is an easy fix for you. The "not great things" you heard were just posts from when SS was having some problems. I have SS up and running with the new rom for vzw in a rom slot and flashed the new radios and everything is working perfectly. No problems for me at all. Also, tibu is really easy to use and will restore system data, your launcher and anything you want. Very minor things that you will need to screw with after using it. Takes about an hour and a half if you need to do things to your system after you start using the new rom. If you don't need to make any of those edits then it really only takes about 30 mins from installing SS to having the new rom running with all your settings and apps.
jayboyyyy said:
fyi. if you are on vzw then SS is an easy fix for you. The "not great things" you heard were just posts from when SS was having some problems. I have SS up and running with the new rom for vzw in a rom slot and flashed the new radios and everything is working perfectly. No problems for me at all. Also, tibu is really easy to use and will restore system data, your launcher and anything you want. Very minor things that you will need to screw with after using it. Takes about an hour and a half if you need to do things to your system after you start using the new rom. If you don't need to make any of those edits then it really only takes about 30 mins from installing SS to having the new rom running with all your settings and apps.
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What about the limited space that is available when using SS?
Also idk If I want to RSD back to get the OTA seeing as "eventually" we will get 4.4 not sure what to do right now lol
I was thinking of trying out the SS OTA ROM but I really don't know also how did you flash the radios.. RSD?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...-x-ss-rom-139151-update-10-31-13/#entry370601
Ota stock ROM never take ota's
DiGi91 said:
What about the limited space that is available when using SS?
Also idk If I want to RSD back to get the OTA seeing as "eventually" we will get 4.4 not sure what to do right now lol
I was thinking of trying out the SS OTA ROM but I really don't know also how did you flash the radios.. RSD?
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if you are worried about space then just flash it to the stock rom. I have plenty of space. with 500 photos on it. I don't use music though. You don't have to rsd to get the ota. You can just flash the recovery.img if you didn't touch the system or flash the system.img as well if you need to using fastboot. Take some time to learn what fastboot and adb are and how to use them and you will be happy you did. Doesn't take much time at all. They are kind of the same thing, how they work at least.
Use fastboot when in fastboot mode. Use adb when the phone is just on normally. Then run appropriate commands. "adb reboot" "fastboot reboot"
here is a link on how to use adb and if you go through it and understand everything then you will also understand fastboot and fastboot will already be installed as well). Then you can take the ota without losing data and having to use RSD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872128
As for the new radios, you will need to use fastboot. you flash the non-hlos.bin then erase modemst1 and modemst2 then flash the fsg.mbn. if you want help with it just send me a pm
shane1 said:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...-x-ss-rom-139151-update-10-31-13/#entry370601
Ota stock ROM never take ota's
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Looks like WiFi isn't working on that ROM!?
Also could I restore my stock ROM to a ROM Slot on SS and then flash the OTA ROM over it?
This would not require TiBu or anything like that..
Just trying to figure the best and easiest way to do this.
Not sure bit if your on a slot it shouldn't hurt to try. I'd make a backup and put it on PC or the cloud to be safe.
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Not sure bit if your on a slot it shouldn't hurt to try. I'd make a backup and put it on PC or the cloud to be safe.
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So boot into SS, backup my stock ROM - save on my pc, then make a ROM slot in SS and restore the backup to the slot? Can you even do that lol
Then if all is well flash the SS OTA ROM on top and I SHOULD be okay..
Might give it a shot likely need to update SS idk what the latest version is
DiGi91 said:
Looks like WiFi isn't working on that ROM!?
Also could I restore my stock ROM to a ROM Slot on SS and then flash the OTA ROM over it?
This would not require TiBu or anything like that..
Just trying to figure the best and easiest way to do this.
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I just flashed it over my stock backup and it worked but doesn't fix wifi
shane1 said:
I just flashed it over my stock backup and it worked but doesn't fix wifi
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That is a big issue, I need WiFi working...
I finally got around to messing with SS and the OTA ROM and did a backup of my stock slot and flashed the ROM to it. everything was working but no WiFi and I can't deal with that =/
Ended up restoring my stock slot backup.
I did however manage to update the baseband, super easy!
EDIT: Flashed the ROM on XDA and now I have working WiFi, looks like the one on droidrzr didn't work for me.

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