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So I have the latest rom.. Cm6 rc3.. I got this by using the one click Root method.. the app that you had to have, i don't have anymore due to wiping my phone..
I reinstalled the app and pressed unroot to see if I still could... I couldn't..
I then pressed root and it said that im already rooted..
By wiping my phone and losing that app, am i now stuck on root?..
I read somewhere around these forums that once gingerbread comes out for the nexus one, the people that have rooted their phone with the one click method will lose root once they update to 3.0.. Like everything will be back to normal, stock everything.. it'll be like you have never rooted in the first place..
Is that true?
P. S. I do love being rooted tho lol.
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most update will make you stock again, just like when update to froyo
but then some genius here will figure it out and BAM we're rooted again, so no worries man
ANY OTA update loses root. Just wait til gingerbread comes out and let Cyanogen or Paul gets root working on it before you flash it. Most likely it will erase all data and you gotta redownload and resync everything.
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ANY OTA update loses root. Just wait til gingerbread comes out and let Cyanogen or Paul gets root working on it before you flash it. Most likely it will erase all data and you gotta redownload and resync everything.
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Really? Wow ok.. Thanks fellas
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Creating the rooted rom is pretty easy. The problem is usually for devices that have updated to some manufacturer update that locked the device down more.
Stock updates reverts back to stock as many have already said.
So, when I got my first Captivate, I got into my epic Android zone with all the ROMs and all that good stuff and managed to mess all that up royally. Well I got my new one and made myself keep it at stock 2.2, but rooted (in case any cool apps came about needing root and CWM wouldn't flash correctly, got a bunch of E: errors so I am assuming that I don't have CWM installed anywhere). So, with this in mind, whenever (or should I say if they ever) they push the OTA update for gingerbread or allow non market apps (preferably both) do I need to be unrooted (meaning will they shut off my device once root is detected on from the OTA or will it just not be pushed because I'm rooted) or will it just push over my current ROM, possible recovery?, etc.?
EDIT: So, does the unroot function of superoneclick work or no?
Anyone care to touch this?
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for another stock update, just my two cents.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
When I had my rooted D1 I tried the OTA to see what would happen. I received in error saying that it did not work. I don't think it will work with a rooted phone????
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No it is easier to flash updates of your favorite rom if rooted. ; )
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mcord11758 said:
No it is easier to flash updates of your favorite rom if rooted. ; )
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Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
okachowwa said:
Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
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I know was just being a smuck. I don't think it matters if updating through kies
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okachowwa said:
Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
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If you are rooted the OTA will fail, but then OTA from Att always fails. OTA updates are not safe to begin with but that is just my 2 cents
zelendel said:
If you are rooted the OTA will fail, but then OTA from Att always fails. OTA updates are not safe to begin with but that is just my 2 cents
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But, if it's through kies will it work?
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But, if it's through kies will it work?
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To be honest I am not sure. As I only run stock long enough to,find the info to get a custom rom. If I remember right it wipes the device kinda like Odin when flashing so you may be ok.
The first update that came out for captivate, I was rooted and it worked. Worked for many others. Then the update to 2.2 came out and those who were stock rooted lost root. Its just best to be stock with update. Those that had failed updates, the majority used dg's odin package to go back to stock. That's what I remember in the "let's figure this out" thread.
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The first update that came out for captivate, I was rooted and it worked. Worked for many others. Then the update to 2.2 came out and those who were stock rooted lost root. Its just best to be stock with update. Those that had failed updates, the majority used dg's odin package to go back to stock. That's what I remember in the "let's figure this out" thread.
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Does the unroot function from Superoneclick work? Or is there an unroot thing through adb because odin doesn't work with my computer
Use heimdall stock package. No problems that I know of.
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Use heimdall stock package. No problems that I know of.
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I don't want to get back to stock, just unroot...
Money is on you'll just lose root.
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I don't want to get back to stock, just unroot...
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Don't know man. I think one click root has an unroot button. Never used it though.
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Money is on you'll just lose root.
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i was running 2.2 then used the kies to get 2.3.5 and all my programs were still on my phone but i lost root.
keep in mind before anyone updates to the official jb. i suspect the official release will be patched to not allow us to return to ics. if you keep root after the update good but if you some how break root there might no be a way to get it back as of now! so be cautious before you accept update. we should at least wait for an official jb fxz if you plan on keepng root this way if you mess something up at least you will have a working phone back without root of course. again i dont know they will patch the official release to prevent downgrade but lets find out for sure to be on the safe side. i dont think were gonna get dan to make us a jb root method right away soon.....
It could be considering its small size. Those who have updated to JB OTA should install safestrap and make a backup.
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keep in mind before anyone updates to the official jb. i suspect the official release will be patched to not allow us to return to ics. if you keep root after the update good but if you some how break root there might no be a way to get it back as of now! so be cautious before you accept update. we should at least wait for an official jb fxz if you plan on keepng root this way if you mess something up at least you will have a working phone back without root of course. again i dont know they will patch the official release to prevent downgrade but lets find out for sure to be on the safe side. i dont think were gonna get dan to make us a jb root method right away soon.....
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This exactly what that was, I am no longer able to downgrade to 4.0.4 using the Atrix Utility. No biggie for me though, I'm rooted with SS3, and I have backups!
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I tried to apply update on jb leak no go... Just a heads up. Still have root. On leak.
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I'll try Flashing through Motorola online hope it works
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It could be considering its small size. Those who have updated to JB OTA should install safestrap and make a backup.
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That's not the official one... A leak update for a leak update is not the official OTA. The official package (if for some reason it is 98.4.20) will be the size of at least the 2 leak update.zips together. It is not a 10 MB change from ICS to JB. It's a 10 MB change from JB leak to JB leak.
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That's not the official one... A leak update for a leak update is not the official OTA. The official package (if for some reason it is 98.4.20) will be the size of at least the 2 leak update.zips together. It is not a 10 MB change from ICS to JB. It's a 10 MB change from JB leak to JB leak.
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Yeah..this ota is just a minor update over the leak. I think I should change my siggy after all..
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Hello friends!
I've got AT&T Atrix HD with JB leak installed, with uncomplete root (root is present but any app cannot access root!), and yesterday I've received software update (98.4.20.en.US).
Tell me please - can I flash back to ICS, or somehow in another way gain root access??
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Hello friends!
I've got AT&T Atrix HD with JB leak installed, with uncomplete root (root is present but any app cannot access root!), and yesterday I've received software update (98.4.20.en.US).
Tell me please - can I flash back to ICS, or somehow in another way gain root access??
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I haven't tried going back to ics. But,I believe this ota block us going back. I think someone at Moto seeing what we've done here.
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I haven't tried going back to ics. But,I believe this ota block us going back. I think someone at Moto seeing what we've done here.
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I can confirm that this OTA does block you from going back too ICS. Lucky for me, I have backups, and i kept root, so I can go back by restoring one of my backups. But I think this leak OTA is pretty good, so I'm not to upset.
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I can confirm that this OTA does block you from going back too ICS. Lucky for me, I have backups, and i kept root, so I can go back by restoring one of my backups. But I think this leak OTA is pretty good, so I'm not to upset.
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Just sent you a PM
I second PeteSeiler2010's confirmation. I installed this update and tried going back to ICS with both RSD Lite and the Atrix utility.Neither worked. Luckily though, I too had made a backup with SS3 and was able to revert back and get root again.
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I second PeteSeiler2010's confirmation. I installed this update and tried going back to ICS with both RSD Lite and the Atrix utility.Neither worked. Luckily though, I too had made a backup with SS3 and was able to revert back and get root again.
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Unfortunately, I do not have any ICS backups for my phone, I must have named a JB backup as and ICS thats all I can think of...anyway, I too and hoping someone can upload an ICS backup somewhere so I too have the ability to go back to ICS if need be. Sorry for the false hope!
If any one has a backup off ICS, I would be happy to upload it my dropbox site so we all would have that to fall back on.
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If any one has a backup off ICS, I would be happy to upload it my dropbox site so we all would have that to fall back on.
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Just to clarify for Pete.
We don't want your information stored on your phone.
1) Restore back to ICS using the "restore function" in SS3/TWRP
2) Do a Factory Data Reset in settings.... privacy..... Factory Data Reset (this will wipe all personal info from the phone).
3) After you've done a Factory Data Reset, do a backup in SS3/TWRP.
4) Zip up the folder that has the backup you just performed, and upload it to a file server somewhere.
5) Post the link in this thread.
6) Be a Hero!
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Just to clarify for Pete.
We don't want your information stored on your phone.
1) Restore back to ICS using the "restore function" in SS3/TWRP
2) Do a Factory Data Reset in settings.... privacy..... Factory Data Reset (this will wipe all personal info from the phone).
3) After you've done a Factory Data Reset, do a backup in SS3/TWRP.
4) Zip up the folder that has the backup you just performed, and upload it to a file server somewhere.
5) Post the link in this thread.
6) Be a Hero!
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Yeah, thanks ATGAdmin for clarifying...we don't want your information, just the clean, wiped ICS backup. If anyone has one they would like to share to help bail a few of us out, it would be most excellent!
Has anyone JUST flashed the ICS system.img.ext4 and boot.img manually, wiped data, and attempted to boot?
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Has anyone JUST flashed the ICS system.img.ext4 and boot.img manually, wiped data, and attempted to boot?
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You mean flash them through Fastboot?
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You mean flash them through Fastboot?
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Yes.
Code:
fastboot flash system system.img.ext4
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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Yes.
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fastboot flash system system.img.ext4
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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I'm at work for 3 more hours, so maybe someone else can try it. If not, I will when I get home.
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Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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Use pro features of SuperSU or OTA Rootkeeper to protect your root, then when you OTA update you should be fine. Try not to modify anything in the System partition otherwise OTA will probably fail (is my understanding), or if you do (i.e. renaming various apks/odex files to .bak), make sure you put them back before OTA updating, in case they need to be patched.
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
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I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
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So I can make a nandroid backup with only root? Using Rom Manager app. Or do I need to unlock the bootlocker? If I can, then I can just recover from nandroid that are stock, update then backup again, change systemlibs etc?
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As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
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I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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UnLucky12 said:
I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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I believe so. Buy don't quote me on that, like I said, never used it.
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It's the same if you use Sony Update Service or PC Compagnon, PCC contain other tool, while SUS only update. Also you can use Flashtool by Androxyde (here on XDA) to flash firmware converted in ftf format. Sony also relased it's own tool named flashtool to flash unlocked bootloader mobile because you can't use SUS/PCC when it's unlocked.
Read this thread "All the info you need before you begin" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167
first thing is that im rooted and tried to update the small "pre kitkat" update and all goes good til it gets to 25% then it says update fails and ive searched til i cant go anymore about ways to fix it so my question is that can att force update my phone to kitkat or should i wait til ss is updated for kitkat and if thats the case will i be able to flash in rom slot one and leave the stock slot alone ? im new to all this flashing roms and i dont have a computer so im trying to do everything from my phone any and all suggestions will help.
In on the same boat but I'm not rooted. It goes to 25 and then gets interrupted.
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first thing is that im rooted and tried to update the small "pre kitkat" update and all goes good til it gets to 25% then it says update fails and ive searched til i cant go anymore about ways to fix it so my question is that can att force update my phone to kitkat or should i wait til ss is updated for kitkat and if thats the case will i be able to flash in rom slot one and leave the stock slot alone ? im new to all this flashing roms and i dont have a computer so im trying to do everything from my phone any and all suggestions will help.
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Borrow a friend's pc or go to a library and use Samsung Kies, but you will lose root.
This is most likely because you deleted some the system apps that came with the stock rom..... This is why I never delete them only freeze with titanium backup! This happen to me on Ml9 so I had to restore stock rom reroot put super su in survival mode and then take the update!
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how would i go about doing that?
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how would i go about doing that?
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Kies is just going to tell you that your firmware is up to date. Either factory reset or you may have to use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715 < This is how I had to do it.
So if I am rooted and deleted the AT&T bloat apps, I can't install the KitKit update? What I unroot completely? I know that won't bring back the garbage AT&T apps back, but would I be able to OTA to kitkat then?
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So if I am rooted and deleted the AT&T bloat apps, I can't install the KitKit update? What I unroot completely? I know that won't bring back the garbage AT&T apps back, but would I be able to OTA to kitkat then?
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You will not be able to ota unless you do a full restore. You also must have att sim card. At&t is just dirty like that.
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You will not be able to ota unless you do a full restore. You also must have att sim card. At&t is just dirty like that.
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Wow. Anyway, I was rooted, but had Wanam installed and successfully updated to Nb4. I had the fake system status set to official. I was alwasy under the impression if it said Official you could update.
And great, because now we all have to follow a really complicated guide to restore back to MJ5 if we want kitkat.
I was rooted on mj5 no wanam or anything and my phone update to nb4
It didn't even ask.
What you probably did was delete the att update software so now it's not even looking.
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I don't think being rooted affects your updating. I have read many people accidentally updating and loosing their root. If you couldn't update with root, people wouldn't freeze at&t update.
ive tried unrooting factory reset andthe only thing i can think of is that ive deleted something . i guess the lesson learned is juat freeze apps instead of deleting them
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