Heh, yes it's time for yet another versus thread: Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109.
Both have 16GB, 1280x800 res, Teg3.
N7 has 7" LCD, JB.
Idea has 9" LCD, HDMI-out, rear cam, micro-SD. It has 4.0, so there'll be a lag in getting CM10.
Worth it for +$50? Wait for sale at MicroCenter for $250?
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It really boils down to what you prefer. I like the size of the nexus 7 my only gripe is I wish it had an option for tablet view by default. Having a rear camera is pretty much point less. I never used it on my ipad, its quicker and easier to just use your cellphone. A high resolution front camera would have been nice but they have to save something for the next nexus tablet.
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Thats a lenovo, right? if so, no develooement support from cds really. the crazy developement we have for N7 is worth it alone, imo. plus we know jb is performing well on n7. not sure how ics is performing on ideapad.
Isnt this lenovo attempt to copy apple with a square tablet aka 4:3 aspect ratio? I like the 16.9 or 16:10 widescreen formats. better for multimedia. I know lenovo releases a square tsblet. not sure if its this one.
Nothing beats direct os support from google... At least for me...
>Isnt this lenovo attempt to copy apple with a square tablet aka 4:3 aspect ratio?
That's the S2109, which has OMAP4430. The A2109 is 16:10 and Teg3. Yeah, confusing.
Yep, we'll see how the reviews fare, and it'll be worth waiting to see what kind of 9" or 10" KF2 Amazon has lined up for Sep 6 announcement. I'm not worried about dev support. As long as it's a decent tablet, then $300 for a 9" (with micro-SD expansion) is a great deal => many will buy one => good dev support. Same goes for KF2.
I don't see this directly competing with N7, but more with the 10" tabs. Only N7 competitors will be a possible KF2, and of course the iPad mini.
>Nothing beats direct os support from google... At least for me...
I think CM10 will come along much faster than CM9, and since all these cheap Teg3 tabs have same underpinnings, I don't see much of a lag time to get JB as older tabs had with ICS. So, yes, direct Goog support is always good, but it's not an essential as, say, for the Xoom. The micro-SD means more to me.
That's a pretty good deal.
I think I paid like $280 (including tax and shipping) for my 16 GB Nexus 7, although it did come with a $25 Google Play credit.
I'd wait to see if it gets Cyanogenmod support or something though
A2109: 167 DPI
N7: 213 DPI
For me, there's no comparison. I'll never get anything less than 200 DPI again, and stare at a bunch of ugly pixellated text.
The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot. I wonder if the one @ B&H really has one. There's a review up at gsminsider.com (in Chinese) that says it does not. B&H also lists it as having GPS, but mine does not have that, either.
Edit: Mine has GPS after all, but no micro-SD card slot unless it's hiding under the speaker cover panel...
I've posted as little more info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30778633
Lenovo? Nuff said. Stay away from it.
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>The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot.
Major bummer, but for the price it's still is a good value. Can you post some close-ups? Not that I don't believe you, but a thousand words and all that.
Funny thing, went Googling for tab specs and found this "confidential" doc for A2109A. This 'A' version has the OMAP 4430 and listed a micro-SD port. It was supposed to be out in July. I guess the Kai deal came along, and Lenovo peeps retrofitted to get quad. Sad about the zapped SD port.
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/WW/LA/Direct/es/co/products/tablets/ideapad/A2109A Datasheet.pdf
BTW, the OMAP4 version listed on the Lenovo is the older S2109. The new A2109 is only listed below in "new products," with no specs.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/new-products/
>For me, there's no comparison. I'll never get anything less than 200 DPI again, and stare at a bunch of ugly pixellated text.
Higher res would've been nicer of course. I think 1280x800 is fine for 10" (or 9"), given the lower price. It does pose an interesting comparison between this and the Acer A700 32GB, which is $425 at Newegg. A700's excessive heat ish scared me off.
Anyway, more cheap tabs to come. Acer A210 should be here shortly, and will take over the A200 slot at $250 ($300?). Also Teg3. Downer? Possibly short battery life, like the A200. But BL should be open as with rest of Acer tabs, and it will have full USB port.
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why? they make solid laptops.
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>The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot.
Major bummer, but for the price it's still is a good value. Can you post some close-ups? Not that I don't believe you, but a thousand words and all that.
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There are pictures at gsminsider.com. Looks just like the one @ best Buy...
Just search for A2109 at gsminsider.com. There are pictures in the linked review.
Sorry, but I can't post a direct link (< 10 posts, here).
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If by solid you mean solid pieces of feces, then yes, you're right. Over the past 2 years I have bought 4 Lenovo laptops for my customers, from high end to mid range. All of them came back to me with fatal issues, 3 of which were motherboard failure. I'd understand if it was a single model having QA issues, but this was multiple models over a 2 year period. I don't trust Lenovo at all anymore. Or Intel boards.
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I have no problem with my Lenovo laptop at all.
I am very interested in the A2109 with its 9" and HDMI out.
Thinking about the Note 10.1, but it may be too expensive for a toy for me...
Is there any word or feeling of community development with this tablet? I am quite interested in this tablet. I have a N7 and love JB and CM10. I would love to be running both of these with this new tablet. It would certainly be a deal breaker for me. It seems that this tablet has no hype and is very underground.Thanks
Lets put tthis bluntly ..lol. there's no hype about it because no one really pressed about it.Lenovo is low key. They do put out some good stuff. But xda developement has always been dead for it. Lets put it this way. Toshiba has better xda support than lenovo. And Toshiba has none..lol. Toshiba and Lenovo are likely the two worst companies whennit comes to xda support. If xda developer support is a concern, then move on stick with nexus 7 or galaxy note 10.1 those are the 2 hottest devices on the market rigght now in tablets. All the major players. Flocking to those devices.
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Lets put tthis bluntly ..lol. there's no hype about it because no one really pressed about it.Lenovo is low key. They do put out some good stuff. But xda developement has always been dead for it. Lets put it this way. Toshiba has better xda support than lenovo. And Toshiba has none..lol. Toshiba and Lenovo are likely the two worst companies whennit comes to xda support. If xda developer support is a concern, then move on stick with nexus 7 or galaxy note 10.1 those are the 2 hottest devices on the market rigght now in tablets. All the major players. Flocking to those devices.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I wish that there was a bigger development scene for this because it has everything I wish the N7 had.
The idea pad is huge not 7 inch and won't fit into your pocket
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Well you cant really fit the N7 in your pocket either lol
Played with one tonight at Best Buy. Screen wasn't as bad as I feared but it's definitely not great. Also strangely uncomfortable to hold for any length of time. Didn't see a microSD slot (at least one site is reporting expandable memory as a feature). Snappy performance. Nothing else really stood out.
Edit: to clarify, when I say the screen isn't great, I'd say out of the N7, GTab2, and iPad, it's definitely the worst of the bunch
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Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?
Galaxy Tab will be your choice for mobility and performance. After you root it and load with custom Rom , you will fall in love with it. My son loves it
I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!
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I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!
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Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...
I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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user error.
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Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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source? I'm curious about this.
Galaxy tab is the best . but why u wont wait for tab10.1 and don't tell me is big ..
yeah is big . but OMG
i would say that the gtab is the best device i have ever bought. i have no regrets purchasing it for the full price. no other tablet (thats out now) can compete with this 7" beauty. its the best 7" tablet on the market right now,hands down! screw the nook color. i use this thing every single day. its my main device, i carry only this device, no cell phone. battery life is great for its size. but after 6 months of using it, i feel like i need to upgrade it. i know this seems like a total 180, but i want a dual core version with honeycomb (and some more RAM) but with the exact same size. everything else is great! the only reason im saying this is because i consider myself a heavy power user (the elite of the elite) and i feel like sometimes it just doesnt keep up. but if ur not like me then this will feel like its blazin fast for you. since i know that i wont get what i want, i still recommend this to people considering a nook color something else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038171
Have a look at this thread, it seems the wifi tab can only play divx at 720p and not h264 720p like the 3g can. If video playback is a major reason for buying the tab then stick to the 3g version!
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Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?
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The Tab is by far the best phone/tablet hybrid out there right now. The important factors to me are:
* size (pocketable)
* screen resolution
* build quality
* GPU acceleration for HD video
I took it with me last week while travelling around Krakow, Poland. Picked up a Polish Internet SIM for £10 or so. It was like having a personal guide at all times. Google Places, Tripadvisor app, email, websites. All there at the touch of a button, and all pocketable. An iPad would be useless for such a trip.
I think it's best to think of the Galaxy Tab as a sort of phone/tablet hybrid rather than just a tablet. Honeycomb will not be targeted at this device as physically it's as much a phone as a tablet. This is a good thing as Honeycomb tablets are too big to carry around town and are lacking in telephony. The OS update after Honeycomb will bring that OS's functionality for smaller devices, but for now it can seem an oddity as it needs a phone OS (Froyo, Gingerbread etc) to be fully functional.
As it stand though, there's nothing that can match it .
I originally bought the Viewsonic G-Tab because it had the Tegra 2 processor and Xoom like hardware. Even though the screen was 10.1" it was terrible to see from almost all angles.
I decided to exchange it for the wifi only Tab and I have not been disappointed. It looks great and I actually think I prefer the smaller screen than I did the 10.1 tablet. I find the weight is more evenly distributed in your hands and that I can more easily type since my hands can span the screen. It doesn't sound like a big deal but unlike my phone I find myself using this thing for hours at a time and holding the larger heavier tablet wears on you after a while.
The battery life is decent even with heavy use. The device feels sturdy and well put together. I think the touch is responsive and the glare on the glass is not any worse then the other tablets out there.
I know I have heard how the wifi version is not as good as the 3G version. Honestly, I have a Vibrant that I can tether off of and I don't need the 3G and added monthly costs. I am almost always around an access point anyway. It runs fast and downloads better than my phone. I would like to have custom roms to put on it but I rooted it and added VT-Launcher and it looks like a different tablet.
Finally, I looked at Honeycomb and those tablets. I really don't see the big deal. The 2.2.1 FroYo does everything that you would want from a tablet with the right apps. I can do everything I need to and then some. Honeycomb isn't going to add any capabilities that I don't already have. My only complaints with the Tab is that it doesn't charge with the USB from a PC (at least very fast) and that the VPN isn't working for me with PPTP right now. I have a call into Samsung and I hope to get that resolved soon. Otherwise, this is a great buy.
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
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There we go, I think I fixed that. Sorry for the double post.
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i'm still having doubts with my Tab (wifi version) since i'm unable to "use" its full potential. i didn't bother though getting the 3g version since i have a small phone at hand.
i'm a little unsatisfied but it's all good. i primarily use it for viewing and editing documents, surfing the net and some music and audio. that's pretty much it. if there's someone who'd be able to do a custom rom for the wifi version, then i'd be recommending this Tab.
I have both a Nook and a Sprint G-tab. If I wouldnt have gotten the deal I did on the G-Tab (company paid for it) I would return it. not that it is a bad unit, I am pretty pleased with it. My Nook has CM7 loaded on it and comparing the two comes out pretty much a wash. They are both great devices. I use the crap out of a tablet and both do everything that I want them to do.
Just my $.02 on the subject.
Hey Guys,
So this is going to be a sort of running thread through the summer, or if it dies, I may revive it as the decision gets closer. Basically here is the deal. I am a student, finishing my junior year of high school, and I am looking for a computer. I want a laptop that is reasonably portable, but also powerful. I play some games, not super intensive, but I would like to make sure the computer can play source engine games well (TF2, CS:S HL2), and also I was an avid player of the original Guild Wars, and I would like my laptop to be able to run Guild Wars 2. Also, going back to the portability, I'm thinking 13-14 inches, and a decent battery life (four hours plus). I would also like a durable laptop, because I would like to try to make it survive for 4 years or so. Budget isn't too much of an issue, but I would like the best bang for my buck. I was looking at the HP Envy 14 when the Sandy Bridge refresh hits this summer. Is there anything else out now that I should look at, or is anything else coming soon that will fit these requirements. I'm looking to purchase this laptop sometime in the fall of 2011.
Thanks Guys
Get an alienware m14x may or may not be your style though.
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Thinkpads are decent. Just don't get anything from Sony or HP.
Hmm the alienware isn't really my style and seems kind of thick to me. And why the HP hate. I know Sony has some high prices.
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LOL I want this!!!
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I have an HP - a DV7-3077CA. It's VERY hot. And by that, I mean the temperature of the creature.
You said you don't really need vast screens, that's a plus in finding a better price with good hardware. So, as I live in another country (and in one with ABUSIVE taxes - I payed about 2.5X what you would pay for the same laptop there), I can't really say an specific option.
But look for things like this:
A Sandy i5 (basic i7 models come with lower clocks than i5. Of course, their TurboBoost is astounding but they don't always work - I have one, I can tell), with 4GB RAM, at least 500GB HDD, and with a dedicated card. Get something from nVidia (brand wars aside, AMD's drivers are still subpar, and laptops NEED stability), probably there are some 4XX or 5XX series cards going out there. Try to get a video card between the 440-450 or 530-550 models. You won't need higher performance than that for quite some time for what you said, but the basic models are TOO basic.
Now, brands: Speculations aside, HP isn't the worst option either, cooling systems aside. AFAIK, Acer usually builds well. Samsung is getting better.
I just wouldn't recommend Dell & Sony (for pricebranding reasons, also at least around here, Dell's support is nothing of what they promise).
Everything here is basically to say that it's actually easier for you to point at a model and think for yourself if it's good for you. It's better for us to support, but what if we really mess up in the choose?
Good thoughts, I'll be back here in awhile with some examples, but while I'm looking, what is the deal with the ASUS laptops. Can you only get them in certain configurations, and is there anyway to read into the names without clicking on each ones to look at the specs.
Epic picture!! I wanna make one like that from my old laptop
Hey guys, here are just a few of the laptops that have caught my attention as I've been looking.
HP Envy 14 (SB Refresh in June)
HP dm4x
Dell XPS 15
Alienware mx14 (How thick is it? I could live with the looks if its not too thick.)
Lenovo, ASUS, and Acer I havn't had time to go through yet, but are there any particular models of those that stick out and compare with the above.
Edit: Started looking at ASUS, NF43JF can be added to the list above.
Buy a laptop that can't play games so you can focus on studying.
I kid I kid.
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Haha very funny. For real though I also want the power for running things like ableton and Photoshop
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=110241&CatId=4965
Got this same computer in black, does everything i ask it to, when i want it to. Dont be skeched out about the refurb, mine came like it was new. :-D
Id like to thank everyone that helped me root, rom, & nand.
OMFGB, Slayher#27, CWM 3.0.0.8
Get Something made by ASUS. Solid company with great rep. I have a U30Jc with GeForce 310m which will play COD on medium settings. The newer models are even better. http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/
Hmm, seems a little almost 2 powerful for me. I'd like more battery life. Also, im not a huge fan of the brown. But thanks for the suggestion.
I've got a Dell Studio 1558 64x - http://www.dell.com/uk/p/studio-1558/pd
But i wound recommend an XPS 16/16/17 http://www.dell.com/uk/p/studio-1558/pd
or if you have the money a Mac Book ! - but then that depends on what corse your doing...
I would highly suggest not getting anything over 14" for screen size. I have a friend who had a 15" mac book but mainly used an Asus Netbook because it was more portable and better battery life. Ideally get a 13.3" or 14" there the ideal size with a good balance of potability, power and battery.
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I would highly suggest not getting anything over 14" for screen size. I have a friend who had a 15" mac book but mainly used an Asus Netbook because it was more portable and better battery life. Ideally get a 13.3" or 14" there the ideal size with a good balance of potability, power and battery.
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thats a good point,
my dell's a 15.5 inch screen n my dads XPS M1330... its 13.5 which is easy to travel with !
Yea I'm looking mostly at 14s. Has anybody heard anything about the dm4x with sandy bridge
In response to MacBook I already have a ton of windows software so osx isn't really am option
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Yea I'm looking mostly at 14s. Has anybody heard anything about the dm4x with sandy bridge
In response to MacBook I already have a ton of windows software so osx isn't really am option
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in which case go Linux =) the best way to waste all the Microsoft software !! I Kid i Kid
I love my Dell studio 1558, it so cool, i've given it -
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It's Official our beloved Nook Color has been Outclassed Completely as best Developer Tablet
Meet the Nexus 7:
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It's got Specs that Dwarf anything Amazon and B&N have yet somehow manages to claim the same Price Tag. Here are the Specs:
7-inch 1280 x 800 display
Quad-processor
Tegra 3 12-core GPU
8 GB and 16 GB models
1 GB of RAM
1.2 MP front-facing camera
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, gyroscope
9 hours video playback
300 hours standby
340 grams
Chrome as standard browser
$199 8gb($249 16gb), shipping mid-July to US, Canada, Australia and UK, preorders available today
Includes $25 credit in Google Play store, lots of preloaded goodies
That List One Ups anything else Available in this Price Range. It's Available for Preorder from the Google Play Store HERE
So what do you think of B&N and Amazon's new monolithic Competitor?
I'll definitely be getting one for the hardware (the phone UI throws me). I haven't decided if I'll sell the NC cheap, or re-purpose it for use around the house. It can always be used for use in kitchen as a media stream, living room for remote control, perhaps the car as a GPS/receiver. The NC isn't completely dead :fingers-crossed:
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I'll definitely be getting one for the hardware (the phone UI throws me). I haven't decided if I'll sell the NC cheap, or re-purpose it for use around the house. It can always be used for use in kitchen as a media stream, living room for remote control, perhaps the car as a GPS/receiver. The NC isn't completely dead :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, with CM9 the Nook Color finally is getting the Tablet treatment it deserves(Not Customised Phone like CM7) but with the Nexus 7 I'm actually considering the selling of my NC that I've used and loved for 2 1/2 years. This is the most torn I've felt in awhile. With the NC only just getting ICS(and still missing certain important things as of now), the Nexus 7 with Jellybean and Quad-Core CPU is flat-out tough to ignore.
My Nook has been my constant companion for a year and a half..had a half dozen different roms starting with autonooter. I even purchased a murse (man purse) to carry it in.... Really going to be hard to put it on a shelf!!!! BUT, this thing looks great and the price for the 16g is what I paid for my Nook!!! And I have a birthday coming in two weeks!!!:silly:
But no SD slot. And phone GUI is standard, even though HD device.
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But no SD slot. And phone GUI is standard, even though HD device.
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Where did you hear about Phone UI? And how is that necessarily a bad thing? Who knows if it works better or not, we haven't gotten our hands on Jellybean yet. Lack of MicroSD slot I agree is a big Con but let's hold out on whether the UI will be bad. The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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Where did you hear about Phone UI? And how is that necessarily a bad thing? Who knows if it works better or not, we haven't gotten our hands on Jellybean yet. Lack of MicroSD slot I agree is a big Con but let's hold out on whether the UI will be bad. The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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check out the device pictures and the video on the Play device store page. I too am reserving judgement till I've played with one in person
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The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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I didn't say the phone gui was bad. I use the phone gui on my nook color and like it. I just wanted people to know that's how it came. No tablet gui.
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I didn't say the phone gui was bad. I use the phone gui on my nook color and like it. I just wanted people to know that's how it came. No tablet gui.
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Sorry, didn't mean to point fingures.
One other downside.....no reason to root right away!!!!:laugh::crying:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-hands-and-initial-review
Answers our UI question. They have changed it so that Tablets(at Least 7inchers) get the Phone UI but made it so it takes advantage of the larger screen. So yes it's the Phone UI, but No it doesn't suck like the Android 2.2 and 2.3 UIs did.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-hands-and-initial-review
Answers our UI question. They have changed it so that Tablets(at Least 7inchers) get the Phone UI but made it so it takes advantage of the larger screen. So yes it's the Phone UI, but No it doesn't suck like the Android 2.2 and 2.3 UIs did.
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The phone GUI on the Nexus is exactly the same as ICS in phone mode. Thin status bar on top and bigger, centered navbar at the bottom. Like I said earlier, I use it and like it. Google said they were trying to streamline and standardize the user experience.
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Exciting stuff.
Well I preordered it. I had skipped the kindle/NT (though I do adore the omap4s, I didn't want to reward BN for locking their bootloader)... but dalingrin talked me into this months ago when it was that announced $250 ASUS 7" quad core device, so now that it's finally out I'm getting one.
Also just loaned away my TP-- 10.1" is too big for me, at least with that heavy monster. It was a great deal and a great project, but 7" is right for me.
That said- my NC is my baby and it ain't goin' nowhere.
NC vs Nexus Etc
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Well I preordered it. I had skipped the kindle/NT (though I do adore the omap4s, I didn't want to reward BN for locking their bootloader)... but dalingrin talked me into this months ago when it was that announced $250 ASUS 7" quad core device, so now that it's finally out I'm getting one.
Also just loaned away my TP-- 10.1" is too big for me, at least with that heavy monster. It was a great deal and a great project, but 7" is right for me.
That said- my NC is my baby and it ain't goin' nowhere.
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Hear! Hear! You Certainly have helped make the NC so great.
I would have loved to get a Nexus if it had a sd card slot
Would have bought a Nexus 7 today if it would have had an SD card slot. Oh well.
Preordered 2 of the 16gb models and sold my NC for $115 (w/2g SD) just now. Sooooo.... Here's my last post in the Nook Color forum: Thanks for the fun, devs - see you in the Nexus 7 forum!
There's a case too...
A quick tip for anyone grabbing a n7-- if you get the case, do it in the same purchase order, and you won't be charged extra for shipping.
If you already ordered before the case made its appearance in the store (as I did earlier today), you can call google, cancel the old order and do a new combined one.
$20 for a custom case is a pretty good deal i think considering that HP was charging $70 or something even AFTER they discontinued the touchpad.
As for the venerable NC-- it was introduced in 2010, remember. And its growing inexpense and SD-bootability make it, I think, still a great, fun device for learning to mess around w/Android without much risk of bricking.
(That said, keep in mind I still think the Apple II is awesome :cyclops
The lack of user loadable storage (SDCard) completely destroyed any chance of getting this on my part. I'll probably play with my Nook Color until it either goes bust or something else comes along that is the Nexus + SDCard. This is a disappointing misstep as far as I'm concerned.
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Man, Fat tire and Dalingrin getting one and who knows what other awesome devs are getting one. I have a strong feeling development on this is going to be epic!
I'll also be getting one as soon as I can ( probably on my trip to europe in august )
Lot's of exciting things
Tho , I still hope kernel 3.x will take a giant step forward soon so I can use the nook as the CarPc replacement I intended it for and my N7 as my fun/development tablet
I really hope the PDK will bring some exciting times
one article said they decided to open it to all users instead of just oems - if that's true it might be one of the biggest things ever ( like all-in-all sources library , oem and developers work together )
I'm looking for a android device to start learning and experimenting on...would like to learn Java in the long run.
I feel a nexus device is probably the best place to start but God dang! that Bezel! Can't stop staring at it...like a huge mole on someones nose or something lol
It should of been 7.7" !!!
Its really putting me off pre ordering, now i'll have to wait and see it in person.
I'm beggining to get my hopes up that Asus will soon release a 'better' version like samsung does after producing the nexus phones.
Too bad you don't like it - but you hold the tablet by the bezel.
In landscape, you hold it with both hands...
Personally, I prefer holding the bezel to accidentally clicking on the touch surface.
I don't see a problem with the bezel. On a phone it would be overkill but you hold tablets in a different way unless you have huge monster hands.
I've also decided to try my hand at a bit of coding and I can't wait until I get to the stage when I can apply it on my Nexus 7 (when I get it).
I'm not talking about the side bezel (portrait mode) its the thick top and bottom that gets me. I feel that even when i'm using it, it will get under my skin. I hope it grows on me in 2 weeks (should be released by then).
The thickness of it seems more than adequate for gripping it properly...even though now that I was holding up a magazine I'm starting to see your point.
It still should of been 7.7 though
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I've also decided to try my hand at a bit of coding and I can't wait until I get to the stage when I can apply it on my Nexus 7 (when I get it).
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Do you currently code?
What you looking to get into?
Yeh I agree aswell. 7.7 would've been a great form factor. Like Samsung's model.
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The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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Wow whose getting their panties in a twist? Why are you getting all defensive their dude?
I just shared my opinion to see if I was the only one and obviously there was a reason to a thick bezel. Thanks to a couple of friendly fellow members above they proved to me that the top and bottom bezel is handy...so i'll probably use it and forget about the bezel.
Same goes for design, maybe it has its place that I just didn't consider
Martias Duarte, the current Director of User Experience at Android, said the large bezels were a conscious choice, for both aesthetic and usability reasons. He said it will probably go under appreciated, and may even remain unnoticed, but he holds the design of the Nexus 7 very close to his heart.
The asymmetrical bezels were implemented so that you can hold the device nicely in landscape, play games efficiently, and also because artwork is often matted asymmetrically.
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What you looking to get into?
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No but it's always something I've liked the idea of. I like to think that my mind works in a logical way (although I guess that remains to be seen).
I don't really know where I want it to lead. At the moment its just a challenge I have set myself. I am starting right at the foundations on CodeAcademy (which uses Javascript). Just finishing the tutorial section on functions.
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Yea really, its not worth getting frustrated or bummed out about.. That's what it is, so either buy it or don't buy it.
Make sure Google checks the forums before they make their next product to make sure every spec that everyone wants will be in the device.
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I'm looking for a android device to start learning and experimenting on...would like to learn Java in the long run.
It should of been 7.7" !!!
That's what she said!
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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I have a nook color, and I can speak for the need of a large bezel on a 7" device. I ended up getting a case that folds like a book just so that I'd have something else to hold on to.
I disagree with Matias Duarte completely on the need for larger bezels. I don't mind a thicker device, but I absolutely want the front face to be all screen and no bezel (i.e. a few mm on the side and 5 mm top and bottom). Any concerns for aesthetics (really?) or the need to hold on to something are overridden by the desire to get the thing in a jacket pocket. Nevertheless I ordered a Nexus 7 not because I appreciate the physical design - I don't, I think it's ugly. But who cares, I wanted the Nexus experience and after being disappointed by all the Nexus phones, at least now I can get a device with low financial commitment (low initial cost and no monthly plan) that is the pure Google experience.
I hope in the future that Google comes out with a Nexus 6 using something like Toshiba's very high resolution 6" panel with almost no bezel. Until then, I'll play with the Nexus 7 and dream about the future.
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First world problems! jk
I'm fine with the 7" design. It don't matter to me because I just want a more portable tablet for use while on the bus to work. My TouchPad is too bulky for everyday use (for me at least).
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It still should of been 7.7 though
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it hurts my eyes ...
http://www.engvid.com/grammar-past-tense-should/
well there are rumors of a larger nexus tablet. imo the nexus 7 is the perfect size. its about the size of a dvd case which is easy to handle with one hand, large enough to read pages and small enough to where you dont have to carry it in purse or backpack.
I think the bezel on the bottom really sticks out because of those on screen soft keys. I realize that has been pretty standard since ICS though. I don't know how much sense Matias Duarte makes on the whole design of the bezel on the Nexus 7 as being similar to a matted frame. I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel. I've had artwork professionally framed a couple of times, one is hanging in my room, and everything is centered. I could be wrong though. I don't know much about framing aesthetics.
That being said, I'd rather have a higher resolution 7" screen with greater pixel density than a lower res, less ppi 7.7" screen.
I don't think the design of the Nexus 7 is perfect by any means, but this is an affordable tablet. Compared to the Nook Tablet and the Fire, this thing looks pretty decent. Sure it's no Galaxy Tab or iPad, but it's not really at those price points.
>I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel.
Both Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire have the same asymmetric "bottom heavy" bezel design. Much more pronounced on the Nook.
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It should of been 7.7" !!!
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Yes, but that doesn't exactly fit with their cost-cutting approach.
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I'm beggining to get my hopes up that Asus will soon release a 'better' version like samsung does after producing the nexus phones.
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Unlikely that Asus would bring out a tablet competing with itself anytime soon. Acer's Iconia A110 should be due in Q3 though. (but it's not 7.7 either as far as I know).
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I was thinking about this today, so I went and had another look and feel at the 7.7 As mentioned somewhere in this thread, it makes it more 'pocketable' and is still OK to hold and grip, turn into landscape mode etc.
It however is not going to be the deciding factor of my purchase. The price of the 7.7 here is over £450 ... that is mad money, the new iPad cost less and the Nexus will cost less than half that!
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I am starting right at the foundations on CodeAcademy (which uses Javascript). Just finishing the tutorial section on functions.
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Cool, good luck with that. Can you post a link to the tutorials please.
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it hurts my eyes ...
http://www.engvid.com/grammar-past-tense-should/
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hahahah thanked ! :laugh:
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>I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel.
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I wish there was a picture comparison to a 7.7 samsung
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Yes, but that doesn't exactly fit with their cost-cutting approach.
Unlikely that Asus would bring out a tablet competing with itself anytime soon. Acer's Iconia A110 should be due in Q3 though. (but it's not 7.7 either as far as I know).
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Thanks for the informative post! The 7.7 would of raise the price significantly I imagine, you're right
Thought you guys might be interested in this, it's pretty funny because that is actually how the iPhone 5 screen looks but it's hard to believe they haven't patented it already. Here's the story:
Chinese phone maker Goophone gets full marks for cheek. The day Apple’s iPhone 5 launch was finally announced, Goophone promised to have the phone banned in China… because it has already patented Apple’s design there.
Apple has suffered serious trademark and patent issues in China in the past, but the Goophone claim is causing merriment amongst Mac watchers. The Goophone i5 does indeed look much like the leaked iPhone 5. The move has been described by CultofMac as “wonderfully brazen” – but any attempt to enforce a Chinese patent would surely expose where Goophone got the design in the first place… wouldn’t it?
The Goophone i5, which first surfaced in August, looks superficially like an iPhone, but runs Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. Like the expected iPhone 5, it has a 4-inch screen, a smaller dock connector and larger speakers, and external speaker grills, whilst the headphone socket has moved to the bottom of the phone.
Inside, it is thought to have an Nvidia Tegra 3 quad-core 1.4Ghz CPU and 1GB RAM.
The i5 isn’t yet on sale in China, however, and is expected in the shops somewhat after the iPhone 5 launch.
Goophone’s site features the words “iPhone 5″ prominently in Latin script but its claims to the design seem very weak, especially given the fact that Apple has patents on the shape and style of iPhones going back some years, which have recently been upheld against Samsung in a US court.
GizChina has a video of the device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfJCDdQuzE&feature=player_embedded
Apple has only recently settled a claim over the iPad trademark in China, paying $60 million to Proview, the owner of the term “iPad” there, when Proview threatened to ban any sales of iPads in China.
Meanwhile, the inventiveness of Chinese counterfeiters was shown last year, when they were found to have copied three entire Apple Stores.
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Here's the general specs of the phone (visit links to see full specs):
- 4 inch IPS screen, 1280*720 pixel display
- 1.4GHz Tegra 3 quad-core processor, 1GB RAM
- Support 3G network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 & WCDMA 850/2100 MHz
- 8MP back camera + 1.3MP front camera
- Android 4.0 OS
Souce: http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/goophone-china-patent-iphone-5-91400 & http://android-sale.com/goophone-i5.html
Hope this is the right section, my apologies if not
This is hilarious... thanks for posting the article!
This is called Karma...
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On their face!
they fight and still get along
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they fight and still get along
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this guys are soooo crazy
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Hell, I just might pick one up!
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well as you all know samsung owns 20% of LTE patents,
so if that 1st apple 4G phone comes out,
samsung will be on thier as*es like a mad dog
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How original and unique is the new iPhone 5 right?
Wait... it's just a iPhone 4 + 3 inch
It's hard to believe everyone already knows the design of the iPhone 5 before the unveil which makes me think we're being mislead on purpose
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How original and unique is the new iPhone 5 right?
Wait... it's just a iPhone 4 + 3 inch
It's hard to believe everyone already knows the design of the iPhone 5 before the unveil which makes me think we're being mislead on purpose
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poor lost souls,
can you imagine how many are expecting that iphone 5 and will get disappointed?
i think even s3 can beat that icrap5
brainwashed by apple
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lol
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Really? This is a forum, not Facebook!
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poor lost souls,
can you imagine how many are expecting that iphone 5 and will get disappointed?
i think even s3 can beat that icrap5
brainwashed by apple
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Well I believe it won't anyway, I think most things will be similar to the S3, not like it matters. They could make the iPhone 5 a single-core phone with a 3 megapixel camera and it would be THE BEST PHONE EVER MADE! The phone gets carried by the hype too much IMO, don't get me wrong it's a great phone but saying it's the best is absurd
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Well I believe it won't anyway, I think most things will be similar to the S3, not like it matters. They could make the iPhone 5 a single-core phone with a 3 megapixel camera and it would be THE BEST PHONE EVER MADE! The phone gets carried by the hype too much IMO, don't get me wrong it's a great phone but saying it's the best is absurd
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well the number 1 absurd fact for me is the stupid price,
its way tooo expensive for a device of its kind,
the people get too carried away
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poor lost souls,
can you imagine how many are expecting that iphone 5 and will get disappointed?
i think even s3 can beat that icrap5
brainwashed by apple
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I am glad that these people will get dissapointed, there is only iphone in their minds and something like this: Is iphone the best phone?
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Really? This is a forum, not Facebook!
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I know.
And today, one guy asked me if iphone was better than One X. I asked how much cores does iphone have, and he asked what cores is.
Really?
iphones are bought mostly by dumb peoples who don't know sh!t about technology, fact is they are way too expensive for the specs they offer... i'd rather stick to cheapest, sh!ttiest android phone (which still have much more to offer, great customization, and custom roms) instead of buying icrap
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Really? This is a forum, not Facebook!
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Lol :silly:
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well the number 1 absurd fact for me is the stupid price,
its way tooo expensive for a device of its kind,
the people get too carried away
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Yep, like everything else it's overpriced because of the name.
Look at Dr.Dre beats headphones, you'll never see anything as over-priced in your life, they're just above standard headphones with a "b" on the side to remind everyone else that you're better then them, it's just silly (I even own a pair and can say I never use them)
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iphones are bought mostly by dumb peoples who don't know sh!t about technology, fact is they are way too expensive for the specs they offer... i'd rather stick to cheapest, sh!ttiest android phone (which still have much more to offer, great customization, and custom roms) instead of buying icrap
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Well, the Moto RAZR and Galaxy SIII aren't worth $699 new in box either Freaking old as dirt Android devices are still ridiculously expensive and most of the time can only be bought from the carrier if you want them from a retail space. Sony is about the only company that offers new phones at decent prices. Google releases their Nexus devices at fair retail as well, but their made by different manufacturers so that's a slightly different horse.
Let's just not act like Apple is the only one who beats their customers in the head.