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[q] why no new vivid roms ?

Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.

Cause this phone is hard to dev for....
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mrwranglers42 said:
Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.
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if you want different roms theres always miui or de-sensed just google them cant post links here

The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.

this badass named mg2195 is deving a cm10 rom ^-^

Load of crap
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The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.
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That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.

dealtsoul said:
That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.
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Woahhh there don't get angry xD It's due to the age (most dev's want the newest and best phone) and also due to the fact that this phone just wasnt that popular...

If its not popular why is the HTC hd2 still getting development and that was launched waaaaay back. And how is this phone hard to dev for???
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The phone is just full of shotty hacked up htc code. They just threw together a bit of everything to make it work, which kinda ruined it for everyone wanting to create custom non-sense based roms

Instead of posting multiple threads in here about why there aren't more ROMs, why not go talk to the makers of ROMs such as JellyBro and JellyBam to see if they will support our device, now that we're cm10 official. Or go create your own.
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Android 4.1 for Incredible S from HTC?Maybe'

Look at this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-publishes-jelly-bean-qa-2012-devices-first-excluding-one-v
Maybe we will have a chance Or at least a port from Desire X!

I surely hope so.
But I'm guessing that it will be a bit late like the ICS update.

Guaranab said:
I surely hope so.
But I'm guessing that it will be a bit late like the ICS update.
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I'm sorry... but... a little bit late ?
A little?
It took them 9 months...
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Like I said in the other thread, there's basically no way we're getting it from HTC...
And think about it, their ICS update basically made the phone worse. And now think about them just throwing together another update for us...
I don't think it'll be pretty.
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Splux said:
And think about it, their ICS update basically made the phone worse.
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That's your oppinion. For me ICS with Sense 3.6 is bullseye.

JB with what? Sense 3.6 again? There's no way we're getting Sense 4 or above. And anything below 4 is a massive resource hog
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TheDareDevil said:
JB with what? Sense 3.6 again? There's no way we're getting Sense 4 or above. And anything below 4 is a massive resource hog
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Jb will come with sense 4+ for all devices.
guys we have seen heaps of updates compared to other phones (nexus doesn't count)
Big updates:
2.2 froyo + sense 2.1
2.3.3 gingerbread + sense 2.1
2.3.5 GB with sense 3.0
Now 4.0 ICS with sense 3.6
The phone was unveiled at MWC 2011 in January iirc. I still remember lying on the floor reading about the incredible S's rotating buttons, fascinated by them. Long time ago. Point is, that our phone is more than 18 months old, nearly 2 years.
That's quite a major bump in both android and sense versions compared with other devices
SGS2 came with 2.3.3 GB
Got 2.3.5
Then got 4.0
Maybe getting 4.1 (higher chance than us)
They have been bumped up the same amount of important android versions as us. Theirs just came later and is way higher specced, so they are getting 4.1
Tl, Dr we should be happy with what we have. Like I said earlier if HTC bring it out for us I would definitely get another HTC next.
But the "2011 phones are being looked at" or whatever they said was likely in reference to the rezound, e3d and sensation etc. We are another step down with our single core processor and lower amount of ram (same as sensation, wouldn't be surprised if HTC skip out on the pyramid because of this )
[/RANT] LOL
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Very well said Mark. Even I don't expect any release from them for our phone. Even if they release, at that point of time, apple would have released iPhone 8 in the market with one more row on their screen, Google would have released coffee beans Android version 6.0, barrack Obama would be fighting for 3rd term of President ship
But truth is still we would be hoping, will htc release update for our phone
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nlooooo said:
That's your oppinion. For me ICS with Sense 3.6 is bullseye.
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My opinion is based on what I've read.
You seems to be the only one so far who actually thinks it is good. Good for you.

@di said:
Very well said Mark. Even I don't expect any release from them for our phone. Even if they release, at that point of time, apple would have released iPhone 8 in the market with one more row on their screen, Google would have released coffee beans Android version 6.0, barrack Obama would be fighting for 3rd term of President ship
But truth is still we would be hoping, will htc release update for our phone
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Thanks, took me a while to write that lol
The max a person can be president for is 8 years, which is 2 terms. #justsayin
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don't forget our HTC cousin, Desire HD. Their ICS update was cancelled at the last min, be proud that the incredible s still has a update

hisname said:
don't forget our HTC cousin, Desire HD. Their ICS update was cancelled at the last min, be proud that the incredible s still has a update
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Yes. Desire z didn't get updated
dinc2, our twin brother is still waiting from Verizon
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markj338 said:
Yes. Desire z didn't get updated
dinc2, our twin brother is still waiting from Verizon
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And that's why the operators have way too much power...

the incredible s is a really old device, I don't think it even has official support anymore after the ICS update

I know Mark.
I deliberately wrote that.
Indirectly I was trying to say that getting an update is like Obama fighting for 3rd term.
Which is impossible.
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Splux said:
My opinion is based on what I've read.
You seems to be the only one so far who actually thinks it is good. Good for you.
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My oppinion is based in what I've tried.

nlooooo said:
My oppinion is based in what I've tried.
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Just one question, are you really using the stock update from HTC?

Splux said:
Just one question, are you really using the stock update from HTC?
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I was using for some time, but I went to ARHD only because it's deodexed (I can use a few mods) and doesn't depend on lib partition (easier backup). As far as I'm concerned if was able to do all that on stock update I wouldn't have change it. I don't know why are you so suprised, I'm not a fan of AOSP roms (MIUI maybe, was using it for some time on Desire), Sense 4.0 looks like a child comic book to me, and stock ICS with Sense 3.6 looks preety good to me.

nlooooo said:
I was using for some time, but I went to ARHD only because it's deodexed (I can use a few mods) and doesn't depend on lib partition (easier backup). As far as I'm concerned if was able to do all that on stock update I wouldn't have change it. I don't know why are you so suprised, I'm not a fan of AOSP roms (MIUI maybe, was using it for some time on Desire), Sense 4.0 looks like a child comic book to me, and stock ICS with Sense 3.6 looks preety good to me.
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I was talking about the stock HTC update, most other Sense-ROMs are kinda smooth.
It's the stock ROM from HTC that's just pure rubbish. And has been since 3.5 update... But I gotta admit, I did like Sense when I bought this phone and it was Sense 2.1... then it has only gotten worse, and the ICS update I didn't even care to try, and from reading the General section here I think I made the right choice.
Anyway, I still stand by my opinion: if HTC release a JB update it'll probably be something rushed together to make us quiet. Normal users could probably not care less.
And... doesn't 4.1 feel a bit old now?

Splux said:
I was talking about the stock HTC update, most other Sense-ROMs are kinda smooth.
It's the stock ROM from HTC that's just pure rubbish. And has been since 3.5 update... But I gotta admit, I did like Sense when I bought this phone and it was Sense 2.1... then it has only gotten worse, and the ICS update I didn't even care to try, and from reading the General section here I think I made the right choice.
Anyway, I still stand by my opinion: if HTC release a JB update it'll probably be something rushed together to make us quiet. Normal users could probably not care less.
And... doesn't 4.1 feel a bit old now?
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All Sense 3.6 roms are made from stock rom as a base with minor tweaks. And of course, as many others, you're talking about something that you haven't even tried.
I also doesn't know when IncS have got Sense 3.5 update. As far as I know the last GB update was with Sense 3.0, so you're talking about something you don't know, again.

nlooooo said:
All Sense 3.6 roms are made from stock rom as a base with minor tweaks. And of course, as many others, you're talking about something that you haven't even tried.
I also doesn't know when IncS have got Sense 3.5 update. As far as I know the last GB update was with Sense 3.0, so you're talking about something you don't know, again.
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Okay, let's take this from the beginning;
I didn't flash the 3.6 due to the fact that the 3.0 (see, I got it right this time... my memory doesn't handle numbers that well) update was rather sluggish, by using custom ROMs you got away from the sluggish feeling.
And by judging from what I've read about it (excluding you), the stock update seems to be even worse.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797471 <- just a quick search on Google, and I found that. First xda result, and if you want I can back up my statements with more sources.
Sense 2.1 on Froyo was okay, in both stability and smoothness. It felt like it was actually optimized for this device.
Are we going to keep on with this rather pointless discussion?
Obviously our opinions differ, and it will probably just go on like this in eternity.
My point is clear, early versions of Sense are better than the newer ones. The ICS update was probably only rolled out to us because it was released before our 18 months were over...
Any mistakes with numbers and so forth are to be blamed on my own lazyness, since I am way too lazy to check through this post for errors.

Vanilla android?

I was waiting on the sgs4, but after the cringe worthy unveiling last night…Im not 100% sold on it. Even with a nice vanilla rom, the hardware looks a bit boring (yeah, the screen does look nice…plus I bet the cpu+gpu will be awesome)…so my next choice is the HTC One. However, I don’t see any posts talking about Roms (other than stock/sense roms)…is this because its new…or is there an issue and custom vanilla android roms might not come out straight away?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I know whats what before jumping in (I know for example, the sgs2 couldn’t get JB roms working 100% because it was missing the Sammy HW compressor at one point)
Cheers guys

fracmo2000 said:
I was waiting on the sgs4, but after the cringe worthy unveiling last night…Im not 100% sold on it. Even with a nice vanilla rom, the hardware looks a bit boring (yeah, the screen does look nice…plus I bet the cpu+gpu will be awesome)…so my next choice is the HTC One. However, I don’t see any posts talking about Roms (other than stock/sense roms)…is this because its new…or is there an issue and custom vanilla android roms might not come out straight away?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I know whats what before jumping in (I know for example, the sgs2 couldn’t get JB roms working 100% because it was missing the Sammy HW compressor at one point)
Cheers guys
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It's just a matter of time till the No-Sense script (I believe that's what it was called for most htc phones) is adapted for the One.
However, out of the box you should be able to use something like Nova launcher to give you as much vanilla as you can get without rooting.
Hope it helped

aranab said:
It's just a matter of time till the No-Sense script (I believe that's what it was called for most htc phones) is adapted for the One.
However, out of the box you should be able to use something like Nova launcher to give you as much vanilla as you can get without rooting.
Hope it helped
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Not had an HTC phone since the Sony X1! Thanks for the heads up on the No-Sense script, I found the HTC One M7 multi purpose tool...awesome!

fracmo2000 said:
Not had an HTC phone since the Sony X1! Thanks for the heads up on the No-Sense script, I found the HTC One M7 multi purpose tool...awesome!
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wouldnt that be a sony then and not a htc lol

strikerdj2011 said:
wouldnt that be a sony then and not a htc lol
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i think he means since the time of the sony x1

You have to wait for someone to develope AOSP for this device. Typically, you have some one try to get CM going, then you'll get aokp and so on if this device is popular enough.
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strikerdj2011 said:
wouldnt that be a sony then and not a htc lol
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Would be Sony Ericsson, but the Xperia X1 was build by HTC just Software was SE.

it will need some time until someone figures out how everthing works with snapdragon cpu and until htc delivers some kernel sources... hopefully they will update to 4.2.2 anytime soon with kernel sources to get stable cm10.1

ROMs ?

Are people working on ROMs for this phone? I only ask because I make the plunge Friday and I recently realized how amazing this phone is. I have tiny hands.. so... I'm souped. But I'm not sure if it will get 4.2.2, or 4.3 or 5.0 or whatever next Android version comes out. And also, I love what Paranoid Android has been putting out. Just wondering if things like that are happening behind the scenes. Didn't see any other threads or posts about it.

I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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nuclear_eclipse said:
I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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Having a RUU available in case something goes haywire definitely helps too. A lot of people don't want to change the firmware dramatically just yet if they don't have the ability to roll it back to factory.

nuclear_eclipse said:
I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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This is true. I'm gonna guess the RUU should be released soon? The One's RUU was just released This makes my decision a little bit more difficult but in the best way cause now I could get this phone and not be too upset since it should get upgraded at this rate. Much love guys. Thanks. Been itching for an android device with great battery that fits in my hand.

TRF-Inferno said:
Having a RUU available in case something goes haywire definitely helps too. A lot of people don't want to change the firmware dramatically just yet if they don't have the ability to roll it back to factory.
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Wouldn't a nandroid backup be more than enough to allow users to roll back to stock if they choose to? Or are you talking about something more than that?

nuclear_eclipse said:
Wouldn't a nandroid backup be more than enough to allow users to roll back to stock if they choose to? Or are you talking about something more than that?
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A RUU would completely revert everything back to stock -- bootloader, recovery, system, radio, etc.

i played with one of these when i got my One
we could probably get a sense 4+ or sense 5 port going on it
i wish i had one to screw with

Zarboz said:
i played with one of these when i got my One
we could probably get a sense 4+ or sense 5 port going on it
i wish i had one to screw with
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Lol that would be counterproductive. I think one of the reasons people like the first is because it DOES NOT have Sense!
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phositadc said:
Lol that would be counterproductive. I think one of the reasons people like the first is because it DOES NOT have Sense!
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lol yeah
idk how hard it would be to get AOSP builds going on this either
i assume easy since most the stuff is aosp already

HTC One Google Play Edition

Check out this great review on the new Stock Android One and GS4. Can't wait to get some of this on our phones fully working.

Also, I noticed on htcdev.com that they released the 3.4.10 Kernel source for the One Special Edition running Android 4.2.

i cant wait till the roms start coming out

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Also, I noticed on htcdev.com that they released the 3.4.10 Kernel source for the One Special Edition running Android 4.2.
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Oh man! I am so pumped for this. I have been running Rootbox AOSP, and it has it's slight quirks and random animations that are stuttery, so it's gonna be awesome messing around with a perfect version of AOSP pretty soon here. Someone needs to release the RUU already

This is going to be amazing. I can't wait to start tinkering

stuff like zoe and beats wouldn't be ported over amirite?

I sincerely hope that within a week's time, we'll see the first major steps taken in the direction of a solidified, fully-functional build for Sprint's HTC One. Granted, things like CM 10.1 have nightlies, but sadly; not an official stable release in-sight for us.
That being said, perhaps the system dumps provided by GPE owners will significantly help steering these ROMs in the right direction.
It would still be fantastic if Sprint (and I suppose HTC in-partial) would quickly prepare the 4.2.2 w/ Sense 5 update for us.
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acme64 said:
stuff like zoe and beats wouldn't be ported over amirite?
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From what I have gathered, beats will be a function you can turn off and on. I don't imagine Zoe will be there because that is a big time sense thing. And I think beats audio will likely not have the beats logo when it is running.
Keep in mind this isn't meant to be a hybrid HTC/Google device. It is a Google device. I'm sure they will implement the better sound, and some more root code stuff, but not as much on the front end / UI

From the looks of any of this I wouldn't get your hopes up for this "helping" anything. AOSP builds are already available. Until Sprint and HTC update Sense to 4.2.2 we will still be in limbo.

FL0OD said:
From the looks of any of this I wouldn't get your hopes up for this "helping" anything. AOSP builds are already available. Until Sprint and HTC update Sense to 4.2.2 we will still be in limbo.
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One thing this could help is the kernel issues we are currently experiencing and hopefully the random bricking issue some people are experiencing when running AOSP roms.

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stuff like zoe and beats wouldn't be ported over amirite?
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Zoe is not there, but Beats is in the AOSP build on the HTC One GPe.

All I wish for is that they port the beats audio to our Aosp roms. Will make they audio so much better.
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Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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This phone is amazing it's like the evo lte on steroids
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scottspa74 said:
Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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Scott, brother you will not be disappointed. Aosp is still a bit quirky for some but with the current source dropped I expect great things in the Aosp world.
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scottspa74 said:
Damn, was finally about to buy a One today, but this has me intrigued, since all I've used for years is AOSP ROMs. On that note, are people pretty satisfied with this device? I am a longtime HTC user. I plan on getting S-off ASAMFP. That was my hesitation coming from S-off Evo LTE, but I see moonshine is now available. :thumbup:
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Just do it bro, get more thanks from me
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more disappointments
google will not be updating these directly like they do with their nexus devices
they are still leaving it up to the OEMs
so if you expect the nexus treatment, youre in for a huge disappointment

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42986652#post42986652
They just posted a system dump over on the HTC One general forums. Ny'oh my god.

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From the looks of any of this I wouldn't get your hopes up for this "helping" anything. AOSP builds are already available. Until Sprint and HTC update Sense to 4.2.2 we will still be in limbo.
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My EVO 4G LTE just drowned the other day so I paid my ETF and bought the One from Radio Shack, it's going to be delivered tomorrow. I was wondering if the fact that HTC was releasing a One with stock android would significantly speed up development on AOSP roms for the Sprint version of the phone. I was also wondering if there will likely be proprietary code for the GPE of the phone that developers here wouldn't be able to use in their AOSP builds. I love stock Android and I've used CM on all my Android phones at one time or another but there always seems to be random nagging issues that eventually push me back to Sense. I guess my question is will the software for the GPE One really help solidify and speed up development of AOSP roms for Sprint's version of the phone.

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My EVO 4G LTE just drowned the other day so I paid my ETF and bought the One from Radio Shack, it's going to be delivered tomorrow. I was wondering if the fact that HTC was releasing a One with stock android would significantly speed up development on AOSP roms for the Sprint version of the phone. I was also wondering if there will likely be proprietary code for the GE version of the phone that developers here wouldn't be able to use in their AOSP builds. I love stock Android and I've used CM on all my Android phones at one time or another but there always seems to be random nagging issues that eventually push me back to Sense. I guess my question is will the software for the GE One really help solidify and speed up development of AOSP roms for Sprint's version of the phone.
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I believe you will see the GPe ROM ported to the Sprint One, but I don't know if it'll affect development by CM/AOKP/PA etc. There is still a lot of proprietary software in the GPe. That is, stuff devs can't use.